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| Posted: Tue Feb 26th, 2008 12:39 pm |
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http://www.wired.com/techbiz/it/magazine/16-03/ff_freeThe rise of "freeconomics" is being driven by the underlying technologies that power the Web. It may be time to shed the scarceconomic monetary crankisms being passed off as 'theory'. I'm speaking specifically about the Limited Liability Corporate Nation State Interest/Profit/Wage Paying SYSTEM. From this: “every individual will attempt to secure his own requirements as completely as possible to the exclusion of others.” Carl Menger (1840 -1921) Power works this way: As power reaches over-abundance the cost of power reach zero while purchasing power increases because power reduces the cost of production. That is opposite the scarce economic facts associated with production of things that have no power (no power to reduce costs). Consider the power-less example of interest earning currency whereby the supplier has a monopoly on the supply (such as a legal entity has when competative currencies are outside the law or fined, taxes, and punished out of the market). The increase in currency (power-less currency) production (inflation) lowers the price (interest rate) and INCREASES the cost of production while purchasing power reduces. The monetary cranks blame that on someone named Keynes. It is false. The blame rests on false people who are false on purpose, for profit - at the expense of their hapless victims.
Think now. Why is money scarce? http://howto.wired.com/wiki/Make_Money_Around_Free_Content Last edited on Tue Feb 26th, 2008 01:55 pm by Joe Kelley |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 26th, 2008 03:13 pm |
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http://www.lewrockwell.com/rockwell/red-state-triumph.html I tried to read the above and to offer a measure of why that ispiration evaporated I offer this: http://www.theonion.com/content/video/diebold_accidentally_leaks If the accounting process is false, why credit it to be true? Why support by innuendo that nothing is wrong with the account? Accuracy does mean something specific. Why ignore it?
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| Posted: Mon Mar 3rd, 2008 06:27 pm |
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19453.htm
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| Posted: Fri Mar 7th, 2008 11:18 am |
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http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Restore+the+republic That is a search for Restore the Republic dot com. My lastest work on the two currency products utilized to restore power to the people was published on the forum on that site. The forum is no longer loading. It may be a temporary problem. It may be a site vanishing act of some kind. Why? Is anyone curious?
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12th, 2008 11:34 am |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 14th, 2008 12:12 pm |
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6046520409389956642&hl=en Please note: A: Inflation B: Interest rates at 20 percent Those are the two sides of the evil monopoly currency fraud. Please see this as fact or expose my error. Anyone can corner the currency market and gain a powerful share of that market by offering no interest loans for home mortgages and one percent interest loans on new energy production and consumption. Competition in markets forces competitors to provide lower cost and higher quality products or reduce their market share. That is how things work in reality. It is unreal to lie about how the only choices are inflation or high interest rates. That is false. High interest rates are reasonably charged, as a cost, to people who prove to be high risk borrowers. If the people control their own currency the people would charge the government a high interest rate for borrowing currency because the people running the government prove, by their actions, to be a high risk borrower. See this? When true becomes false and when the world is falsely perceived or up-side-down ‘The Government’ owns the money. That is false. People own the money. When the people regain this power over money the people will have the power to charge “The Government” a high interest rate for borrowing the people’s money. That sets things back to right, true, just, and peaceful prosperity – for posterity. See this? If, for example, “The Government” goes about the world torturing and mass murdering, if that happens, “The People” raise the interest rate on “The Government” and punish “The Government” for mal-investment. Do you need to know the facts? Example: The Iraq War was sold as a money making venture where the legal criminals (Bush/Cheney/Neocons) borrowed the cash to conduct to war from “The People” on the promise of paying for The War with oil profits. This is fact. That is how it went down. The War was sold as a money-making venture to gain more Oil POWER by taking oil from the Iraqi people. This is fact people. Don’t lie about it. So…’The People’ are now finding out how “The Neocons” conned the people into this mal investment. The Iraqi Oil isn’t really paying for anything other than more and more Oil profits for the Oil Cartel as Oil is made more and more scarce (raising the price of oil). The profits go right to the legal criminals while ‘The People’ pay the costs. So...who is paying the INTEREST rate? Enter stage left: The Federal Reserve Banking Cartel or MONOPOLY MONEY All interest payments go to that Cabal of legal criminals. See? Now it is easy to see the connection between the Banking Cartel and the Oil Cartel. They are in the same “Currency” game. One deals with Oil currency (a power) and the other deals with monetary currency (another power) and both steal the POWER from The People through SPECIAL INTEREST. This is completely up-side-down. Think in terms of ‘who’ and ‘whom’. Who earns credit? Who creates debt? The people earn credit. The legal criminals create debt. Who has to pay the debt? Who profits? The people pay the debt. The legal criminals profit. If the people stop loaning power (or charge more interest for loans of power) to these criminals the end result will be less mal-investment. How about this angle: What is the difference between an average Joe who borrows more money for a new car than the average Joe can possibly repay and the average dictator who begins a war of aggression that cannot possibly be victorious? See that please. Don’t lie about it. The average Joe receives the new car and drives around for awhile. Eventually the payments on the loan end. Joe never could afford the new car. It was a case of mal-investment. The bank is just as guilty as Joe because it takes two to loan and borrow this money stuff (purchasing power). The average dictator invades another country to steal the oil and before long the war turns into a quagmire. Eventually the piles of tortured bodies are too high and the dictator can’t make any more payments on the loan. Guess who the dictator borrowed the power from? This is a relationship people. The people and the government relate. One earns credit. The other creates debt. Get that straight.
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| Posted: Sun Mar 16th, 2008 01:03 pm |
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+++++++++++ This action made private individuals who had been previously exempt from federal income taxes now liable for them since the general public began consuming and making large amounts of private credit. Notice all the case law prior to 1933 which affirms that income is a profit or a gain which arises from a government granted privilege. After 1933, however, the case law no longer emphatically declares that income is exclusively corporate profit or that it arises from a privilege. +++++++++++ +++++++++++ A major purpose behind the 16th Amendment was to give Congress authority to enforce private law collections of revenue. Congress had the plenary power to collect income taxes arising from government granted privileges long before the 16th Amendment was ratified and the amendment was unnecessary, except to give Congress the added power to enforce collections under private law: i.e. income from whatever source. +++++++++++ +++++++++++ Congress has the power to abolish the Federal Reserve System and thus destroy the private credit system. However, the people have it within their power to strip the fed of its powers, rescind private credit and get the bankers to pay off the National Debt would Congress fail to act. +++++++++++ +++++++++++ The key to all this is 12 USC 411, which declares that Federal Reserve notes shall be redeemed in lawful money at any Federal Reserve Bank. +++++++++++ +++++++++++ If the Fed is under no obligation to redeem its notes, then no one has an obligation to make a return of income. It is that simple! +++++++++++ ++++++++++ According to Bonvier, public money is the money which Congress can tax for public purposes mandated by the Constitution. Private credit when collected as revenue can fund programs and be spent for purposes not cognizable by the Constitution. ++++++++++ +++++++++ Never forget that private credit is funding the destruction of our country. +++++++++ David Merrill, The text and movie are very simple to understand as presented as far as I am concerned. It is easy to see. I can summarize and comment on that information (information is currency). Private Private commerce is separate from Public commerce by involuntary law. I have to add the involuntary word because I have this thing about being accurate when passing on currency from one person to another person. When I am involved the focus will be toward greater accuracy. You can focus on whatever you choose. Private commerce is separate from Public commerce because people will starve to death without private commerce and because Public commerce requires an unrecoverable cost associated with enforcement of involuntary commerce. In other words: If all commerce were Public commerce the people would work to death in order to enforce their own slavery. The flip side of that relationship (involuntary association) is a situation where all commerce becomes Private. If all commerce were Private the people may, and this is not proven, the people may not invest in their own security against criminals (single criminals and organized criminals). This summary may appear to be inaccurate to the reader who may have watched the link and read the text offered by David Merrill. If the reader is at all confused by the link and the text offered by David Merrill it may be a good idea to discuss that confusion. My intention is to summarize the principles before moving onto the interesting stuff. The interesting stuff is the stuff that secures the people from crime and allows people to work toward prosperity for their own current lives and for posterity. The principle difference between Public activity (commerce) and Private activity (by involuntary law) is the principle of free will. A Private activity is free from involuntary association, by law, and a Public activity is shackled with involuntary enforcement. It is very easy to know when activity moves from Private to Public activity. Someone will offer two choices when activity moves from Private to Public activity. The two choices are these: Choice A: Obey Choice B: Suffer Punishment If anyone, including David Merrill, harbors a false perspective concerning this accurate fact please consider exposing that falsehood now. Again: PRIVATE equals voluntary association. PUBLIC equals involuntary association. The biggest problem I have with the link and the text offered by David Merrill is the lack of focus on the principle difference between Public and Private human activity. The link and the text expose criminal activity concerning money and currency. Criminal activity is neither PUBLIC nor PRIVATE unless someone, anyone really, considers all involuntary associations to be criminal. The apparent assumption in the movie link and the text is such that PUBLIC (involuntary ) associations are LAWFUL and RIGHT and MORAL and NON-CRIMINAL. In other words; the text and the movie apparently project legitimacy for specific involuntary associations such as, for example, The Constitution of the United States. This does not have to, by default, cause conflict between individual people. This can be seen as simple fact. The Constitution of the United States is a written document prescribing an involuntary union of states. It is all there in black and white. Ignoring the facts won’t make the facts go away. Anyway…lets assume that it is OK to enforce an involuntary association for the specific purpose of securing the union or preserving liberty by collecting the power required to defend against criminal individuals and criminals gangs. This isn’t too hard to swallow even for someone like me who does not agree that involuntary associations are necessary. I can suppose, for the moment, that people must pay, or else suffer punishment, when criminals are roaming the neighborhood injuring innocent people as robbery, rape, torture, and murder. In other words; when robbers, rapists, torturers, and mass murderers are injuring innocent people currently, happening right now, it is a good idea to exert some pressure upon your fellow man (and woman) to invest in reducing those specific crimes and to ensure that the investments earn an effective remedy. OK, so, suppose a power is put in place to collect these taxes for our mutual defense as we all agree to secure our liberty. Suppose, in fact, that we enact a power that enforces the collection of a tax upon all who reside within our reach. This is not often the way a person describes ‘our government’. It is an accurate way to describe it. This should alert the reader since falsehood is difficult to find once falsehood has infected the mind. Suppose, then, that ‘we the people’ agree to enforce our-selves to pay a PUBLIC tax. We, in short, require (obey or be punished) tax payments to ‘the government’ – or else. Please know, for a fact, that this is what has been done and this is what causes the division between PUBLIC and PRIVATE. The reason why the division exists is something that can be called “Special Interest”. In other words; certain people are allowed to become PUBLIC people while everyone not allowed to become PUBLIC people are left as PRIVATE people. A PUBLIC person has ‘special’ powers. A PUBLIC person can use the POWER given to the PUBLIC person in many specific ways and these specific POWERS are enumerated specifically and presumably these SPECIAL POWERS are accurately prescribed (much like a doctor prescribes a specific cure for a specific disease rather than, say, prescribing blood letting for a headache) and these POWERS are not, at all, ambiguous. To allow these POWERS to become ambiguous or unspecific is to court disaster and open the door for ‘The Government’ to become CRIME. Quote time: +++++++++++ Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one: for when we suffer, or are exposed to the same miseries BY A GOVERNMENT, which we might expect in a country WITHOUT GOVERNMENT, our calamity is heightened by reflecting that we furnish the means by which we suffer. Government, like dress, is the badge of lost innocence; the palaces of kings are built upon the ruins of the bowers of paradise. For were the impulses of conscience clear, uniform and irresistibly obeyed, man would need no other lawgiver; but that not being the case, he finds it necessary to surrender up a part of his property to furnish means for the protection of the rest; and this he is induced to do by the same prudence which in every other case advises him, out of two evils to choose the least. Wherefore, security being the true design and end of government, it unanswerably follows that whatever form thereof appears most likely to ensure it to us, with the least expense and greatest benefit, is preferable to all others. ++++++++++ So…the POWER to tax is very specific because the POWER to tax can easily turn into organized crime. It would not take much confusion or ambiguity to hide criminal robbery behind this POWER to tax. It would not take much confusing language and it would not take a whole lot of confusing TEXT to disguise a criminal gang taking over the POWER to tax and make that POWER a criminal power instead of a PUBLIC TRUST. People are busy working. People do not have the time and energy required to make sense of too much confusing jargon. The POWER to tax must be specific and it must be simple and it must be easy to understand and it must be universal, fair, and equitable or this POWER will be criminal, unequal, unfair, inequitable, and destructive to a point whereby the people (Private) are working themselves to death for their own enslavement. Now, suppose that the private people (the people) agree to support this involuntary tax collection business and this thing is then called PUBLIC activity. Now, and this is very easy to understand, the PUBLIC activity has the power to accumulate more POWER. I can help make this very easy to understand by making this personal. Suppose you were given the license to print money (purchasing power) and you were given the license to collect taxes (in the form of purchasing power). Yesterday you had to work for a living. Today you have the license to print legal money (Public money/currency) and you have the license to collect taxes. Which is easier for you to gain more power quickly? Yesterday you had to work for a living and you had to please everyone you meet and you had to provide all your associates with their desires. This is PRIVATE stuff. You go out and ask people if they need something and if these PRIVATE people say: “Yes, I need lunch.” “I need a new house.” “I want a new car.” “My car is broke.” “My house needs a new roof.” if they say that and you supply what they demand, the way they demand it, then you are gainfully employed in an honest job. Good for you. You earn a living. That, my fellow Amercians, is the Amercian dream. It is called: WORK. Yesterday you were PRIVATE and you had to provide a demand. You worked. Today, a new day, you get your license to print POWER and you get your license to TAX. You get to create PUBLIC LEGAL TENDER today. You get to collect TAXES or send people to court and jail for failing to pay TAXES. Which is better? Three choices: A. Work for a living (PRIVATE) B. Manufacture legal tender (MONEY) C. Collect Taxes Which is easier? Which cost more? Which choice requires more work from you? I can help walk the confused, if someone reading this is still confused, through these three choices. A. Working for a living requires a lot of work because people demanding things would rather do these things themselves unless you can do these things cheaper. Working for a living requires a lot of very effective work, the best at this job, and if you are not up to snuff you will starve at that employment. Find a job where you can compete and earn your share of the market. B. All you have to do is add zeros to your bank account. That is it. Now you are very, very, powerful. Add a lot more zeros and you are that much more powerful. The work required to defend your power is done by grunts. These grunts get sent to places like Iraq to die in defense of your personal (PUBLIC) power. You have the license. You got it. You own it. You control it. Add as many zeros as you see fit. You have this power. You may have to work at deceiving the PUBLIC. That is the catch. C. People really don’t like being told what to do and this TAX collection job isn’t going to be easy. The catch here is the same catch as catch B. You have to be able to deceive people into a belief in the legitimacy of robbery. It can’t be easy. I’ve commented at length concerning the linked video and the text. My prescription is specific. Two products: One is an interest free loan for home mortgages for qualified borrowers. The other is a one percent interest loan for new energy production and consumption. I can’t, for the life of me, figure out why people are averse to my prescription. My guess is that the people have been publicized. I can explain as demanded.
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| Posted: Wed Apr 2nd, 2008 07:47 am |
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http://www.mises.org/story/2918
I'm reading and finding question begging, myth, Straw-Man fabrication, and apology for the status quo - which included torture and mass murder. Seriously; the author appears to create a ‘just price theory’ based upon his selective misinterpretations of other people’s thoughts. I’ve seen this many times. The author is picking out (and by doing so he is excluding other) meaning of a term called Fair Price. Anyone claiming to support a Fair Price, according to the author will be guilty of being stupid. That is basically what is being reported by the author. You can, of course, form your own judgment, or fairness, concerning the meaning of the words published. Consider the meaning of the word EQUITABLE: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/equitable Here is a more detailed definition of equitable commerce: http://tmh.floonet.net/pdf/jwarren.pdf The idea is to avoid passing on costs from one person to another person. The idea is to consider how a free market works and know that reducing costs increase purchasing power. Know that competition tends to inspire pricing at cost or as near to cost as possible as a means of gaining market share and providing a cost-less product while maintaining high quality. The lagal criminal types will convince you that price and cost are two different things. They torture and mass murder for profit. Why do you beleive them? Do you torture and mass murder for profit too? Price is cost and only when someone can manage to pass on cost to someone else does price become higher or lower than cost. If you don't see this then don't accuse me of being economically stupid. You would be the stupid one. If you do see this and you do know that passing on costs from one person to another person is the difference between price and cost, then please know that someone intending to pass on costs will be inspired to hide costs. Hiding costs is done so as to pass on costs. This happens all the time. People claim to be offering a 'discount' and fail to provide the accurate cost. You get a 'discount' from a price that is 10 times above the cost and the 'discount' is 5 times above the cost. This is called fraud. I'll read on to see how much more fraudulent the author manages to 'pass on the costs' of being economically stupid. I'm back. The author speaks about the 'socialism' of Bush. The author also calls Bush "The President". Please know that Bush is a capitalist. That should be clear. Bush is not a socialist. There are two types of socialists and two types of capitalists. There are the voluntary capitalists. Bush is not one. There are the involuntary capitalists. That is Bush. There are the voluntary socialists. Stalin was not one. There are the involuntary socialists. Stalin was one. Please be clear about this big, it is HUGE, lie. Bush is a capitalist. Bush is moving ever closer to Fascist (which is a blend of Capitalism and Politics). Fascism is involuntary capitalism. Communism is involuntary socialism but that is not as clearly known since hippies in the 60s (the free love types) were communists and they had nothing whatsoever to do with Stalin's tortures and mass murders unless you count the effort to end the Vietnam War. I repeat: BUSH IS A CAPITALIST The author lies. If Bush were not a capitalist he would have been impeached already. And "The President" comment. Who is he kidding? A president is elected by the people. Bush was elected by fraud. Bush is no one's president or to be more precise; Bush is the president of the legal criminals who torture and mass murder for profit. It is past time to impeach the killer. Last edited on Wed Apr 2nd, 2008 08:03 am by Joe Kelley |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 3rd, 2008 08:07 am |
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http://www.garynorth.com/public/3328.cfm Please read that link. When the officals are claiming to be increasing the money supply what should a reasonable person think? I have two words for you to consider: Caveat Emptor Gary North is, in my opinion, as close to a voluntary capitalist (can also be called a market anarchist) as one can be - the one going by the name Gary North. The way involuntry capitalism works, on the other hand, is fraud. The officials say things like 'Buy stocks now'. The officials sell stocks on that day. See how this works? When the officials are claiming to be inflating the money supply by 17 percent (Ron Paul made this claim resently) it may be a good idea to check the facts. Read the link - please.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 4th, 2008 10:21 am |
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http://www.lewrockwell.com/roberts/roberts242.html
That falsehood could explain many questions. The U.S. Constitution ended liberty in America. The U.S. Constitution ensured the power of the few to control the many through currency manipulation as proven when George Washington supressed the last battle of the American Revolution (The false labeled Whiskey Rebellion). The U.S. Constitition was a dirty deal made between southern slave masters and northern slave masters and the 'dirty compromise' required to extort these legal criminials set the stage for the battle between the North and the South (The false labeled Civil War). If someone concludes that "The Founding Fathers" gave "us" liberty that someone might also conclude that America is 'represented' by "representatives" in government. America isn't THE STATE. America is a land of people who are controlled by a few legal criminals. The power of those legal criminals is stolen through falsehood and violence. American's are as much the victims as any other people on the planet. Read that link and know that the person who wrote it is duped, ignorant, or stupid when it comes to the BIG LIE. This one: If Americans have any honor, how can they betray their Founding Fathers, who gave them liberty, by tolerating a government that claims immunity to law and the Constitution and is erecting a police state in their midst? If a person does not recognize the cause the person will treat symptoms. The cause of the violence is violent people and the reason for their immunity is falsehood. We the people trust our form of government that was rotten from day one. We expect the legal criminals to behave better because it is the right thing to do according to the law of the land. HELLO! The law of the land since The Constitution's start has been: http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.articlei.html#section8 To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions; From day one the document (the law of the land) meant to suppress LIBERTY. Here is your confession: http://www.earlyamerica.com/earlyamerica/milestones/whiskey/text.html And whereas, it is in my judgment necessary under the circumstances of the case to take measures for calling forth the militia in order to suppress the combinations aforesaid, and to cause the laws to be duly executed; and I have accordingly determined so to do, feeling the deepest regret for the occasion, but withal the most solemn conviction that the essential interests of the Union demand it, that the very existence of government and the fundamental principles of social order are materially involved in the issue, and that the patriotism and firmness of all good citizens are seriously called upon, as occasions may require, to aid in the effectual suppression of so fatal a spirit; That is King George of America suppressing LIBERTY as people peacefully protested against a tax on whiskey BECAUSE no one had any money to pay the TAX since they were using whiskey AS CURRENCY. The people of the times knew exactly what happened. The BANKERS (Alexander Hamilton) took over the country with a currency fraud. The same 'troops' who volunteered to fight against the British (and their currency fraud) were fighting against the new KING GEORGE or they were conscripted into the suppression of that last battle FOR LIBERTY. Either Paul Craig Roberts is naive, stupid, or ignorant. The U.S. Constitution is only 'better' than the NEW LAW OF THE LAND because the new KING GEORGE has placed humans on the torture table and, of course, Nuclear War is also 'on the table'. Sure, The Constitution could be used to bring a brutal dictator back in line with past dictators who were less brutal. Who is the stupid one?
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| Posted: Mon Apr 21st, 2008 06:14 am |
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+++++++++ In other words, I don't exactly want to read something with an overtly Marxist/Austrian/neoclassical/whateverist thrust, although an overview of the various bodies of thought would be welcome. +++++++++ Equitable Commerce I have a hard copy. This basic economic handbook exposes the dogma that pervades the 'Austrian' (capitalist) and 'Marxist' (socialist) systems based upon involuntary associations (fraud and force). It does so by offering a more accurate, disinterested, and objective human economic perspective that avoids politics altogether. What cannot be ignored (without resorting to dogma) is not ignored in that economic study (117 pages) such as ‘how price is determined by cost’ and who or what determines cost. Rather than assume that economics must be dictated by pricing schemes whereby producers have the power to eliminate the competition (such as involuntary capitalism whereby the State enforces a limited liability corporate accountability shield of fraud and a monetary currency monopoly fraud) and by eliminating the competition the pricing scheme can involve a decrease of the supply in order to increase the price to ‘whatever the market will bear’ as well as dumping products below cost in the effort to create market share in preparation for a decrease in the supply in order to increase the price to ‘whatever the market will bear’. Equitable Commerce (an economic study reinforced with practical experimentation) avoids the dogma associated with supply and demand manipulated pricing schemes that are assumed to be dictated by either The State, The Unseen Hand, The Limited Liability Corporate Entity, or any other dogma, rather, the short and easy to read economic study is based up the principle of cost, the principle if individual sovereignty, and the principle of equity (not equality). I have yet to read any economic study where that dogmatic assumption of a mysterious and ambiguous entity hasn’t been leaped toward; whereupon ‘economics’ is supposedly not (wink, wink, nudge, nudge) dictated by man made pricing schemes based upon scarcity even the Marxist versions. The dogma pretends to create demand and supply induced pricing forces ‘out of thin air’ as if no actual person decided to manipulate the supply in order to manipulate the profit or power flowing from the consumer to the producer (above cost). If the economic student (like I was before reading Equitable Commerce) is ‘educated’ in the “Austrian” or “Marxist” political/economic dogma they may ignore the cost principle, the equitable principle, and the individual’s sovereignty too (since those political dogmas ignore the cost principle, the equitable principle, and the individual’s sovereignty). I think I read about half way through Hazlitt’s Economics in One Lesson. I can find where I stopped if needed. It is another capitalist manifesto based upon a scarcity pricing scheme where production intends to ‘exploit the market’ by transferring wealth from those who earn it to those who manipulate the supply into a state of scarcity and then jack up the price above cost. The unreported assumption is state controlled credit since a credit monopoly will not exist without fraud or force (The State). I am more than a little curious to have someone read Equitable Commerce (all 117 pages) and find fault with it (other than the dogma parroted by monetary cranks) especially since the data contained in Equitable Commerce is based upon controlled experimentation. Once the reader thoroughly understands the economic principles involved (The Cost Principle, The Equity Principle, and Individual Sovereignty) there is a corresponding ability to expose the dogma that is inherent in the involuntary associations pretending to pass as economic knowledge. Example: A common theme among dogmatists is a mysterious power wielded by ‘capital’ where this entity called ‘capital’ somehow manages to gain power over human beings. It is often reported that ‘capital’ employs ‘labor’. By that dogma a person may be led to believe that ‘capital’ can employ ‘labor’. A person believing that ‘capital’ can employ ‘labor’ may fail to identify the person who is transferring power from his victim to his own bank account by fraud and by force. Capital or ‘things’ do not employ anything – ever. Things, like guns for example, sit. Even, as I’ve seen dogmatists suggest here on this forum, things that are automated cannot employ anyone at any time. An automated car wash, for example, cannot employ anyone anymore than a ‘company’ can employ someone. An automated security system cannot accidentally injure an innocent person either – ever. Some ONE (a sovereign individual) turns the thing on. When ‘capital’ is said to employ ‘labor’ chances are the capitalist is gaining rapidly in the business of taking power from an individual. The ‘capitalist’ is an individual – not a corporation and not The State. Human’s, who labor (or just work for fun), employ things. Human beings act with pre-mediated will power. Things cannot decide or employ will power (computers may be simulating will power or the power to make human decisions) however the dogma of ‘capital’ employing ‘labor’ is an old economic fallacy that pre-dates computers. This is a bit long for a sales job for a little book that is not much more than a pamphlet. Suppose the person asking for a BASIC economic book does read this BASIC economic book? I can dream can’t I? Suppose the person does read it and then suppose the person understands the basic principles involved in economics. Now what? Will the person return to the common herd mentality of parroting monetary crankiest elitism or will the person decide to employ principles in economic thought? Suppose every dogmatic argument supporting the fraud of capitalism was used (turned around) on the dogmatist like, for example, the dogma apologizing for scarcity pricing schemes associated with wages? The dogmatist claims that wages are paid based upon the abundance of labor or over-supply of labor and therefore the price of labor bears a small exchange rate. Why pay someone a high wage when many laborers are demanding employment? Why not pay a low wage since ‘the market will bear’ a low wage? Confusing? I’ve read Equitable Commerce, The Science of Society, Mutual Banking, and A New System of Paper Currency which are very easy to understand economic works written by American Anarchists (or so called Anarchists) so this is not at all confusing to me. I am armed with true principles. The Limited Liability Corporate Nation State Interest/Profit Wage Paying System Dogmatist claims that ‘the market will bear’ a low wage to many laborers. Got that? The reason why the dogmatist claims that to be true, empirically, is factually based upon a currency monopoly fraud. So called ‘capitalists’ have the power to create currency of the ‘legal’ variety and with that power the so called ‘capitalists’ have the power to finance whatever they choose to finance since they, the so called ‘capitalists’ have the power to create ‘legal’ tender or MONEY and this ‘right’ is exclusive. Like this: “every individual will attempt to secure his own requirements as completely as possible to the exclusion of others.” Carl Menger (1840 -1921) Now turn that around, I mean specifically, turn around that dogma. Suppose that the Marxists were serious (rather than being puppets financed by ‘capitalists’) and the ‘laborers’ took over the power to create credit and at the same time the ‘laborers’ removed that power to create credit (out of thin air) from the ‘capitalists’. Got that? Previously the ‘capitalists’ financed a situation where the supply of labor was high and therefore many laborers were fighting over each other for a very low or small supply of ‘jobs’. The scarcity of jobs created a high demand for employment and therefore the market would bear a high price (cost to the laborer) for gaining a job. Is that backwards? Hardly Now the ‘laborers’ seriously take over the power to create credit out of thin air. “Laborers” offer purchasing power at no-interest to qualified “Laborers” for the purchase of land and the construction of homes and work shops. “Laborers” charge ‘what the market will bear’ in interest rates (up to 25 percent interest charges) for anyone wanting to borrow legal money to gain possession of ‘capital’ (the means of production). Workers get an interest discount Non-workers pay as much as the market will bear for the use of credit to buy the means of production. A ‘boss’ who does not actually work, and cannot prove a ‘credit rating’ of having worked will not qualify for a no or low interest loan (not even for a home and not for a ‘shop’). No worky - no money unless the ‘capitalist’ can afford to borrow and pay the high interest charge. Equity, if you do take the time and effort to read the BASIC economic book, is neither Austrian Capitalist nor Marxist Socialist economic KNOWLEDGE. I am curious to see if you learn anything. The Above is copied from here: http://www.anarchism.net/forum/board_entry.php?id=27460
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| Posted: Sun Apr 27th, 2008 12:53 pm |
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19818.htm
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| Posted: Wed Apr 30th, 2008 12:57 pm |
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Joe Kelley Administrator
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http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig6/schembrie7.html
It is time to do more numbers. My wife and I had another one of our arguments and I will tell that story before moving onto the current numbers. I hobble out of the truck and hop over to the gas pump. My card goes through the slot and soon the fluid flows into the Ford’s gas tank. The cost in dollar units is over 80. The truck is used by me and my wife for various chores including the hauling of heavy things. I hop because one foot is being repaired and it cannot support weight yet. I get home and make a comment as I plop down on the couch and prop my black-red leg up. “80 dollars to fill up the truck; an electric car and solar panels pay for themselves and add more money to the bank account.” I say that general theme if not those precise words. Much of the argumentation between my wife and I concerns imprecise language. “Do you know where to get an electric car that won’t turn out to be a lemon?” My wife responds. She is cooling up to the idea and the price of gas is helping move her. She is the only one generating an income at this time in our lives. I generated an income for 25 years until my employers deceived me out of any insurance claim after my body wore out at work. My doctor bills are now paid for by my wife and her insurance policy purchased after my employers lied and forced me out of work. I think I left that dishonorable relationship with my honor intact; other people consider me to be ‘too honest’ or even stupid. The argument with my wife went sour because that is what arguments are and the bottom line is that we are not yet in a position to purchase anything; let alone invest. We are surviving on a resent liquidation of an earlier investment and my wife’s ability to generate an income. Here are two possible examples of cars:  http://www.aptera.com/ask.php How long will it take to charge the Aptera? This depends on the amount of battery discharge but a typical time would be 2 to 4 hours.
http://www.teslamotors.com/  The cost per mile is advertised as 2 cents. A 30 mile per gallon gasoline powered vehicle at 3 dollars per gallon costs 10 cents per mile. That is what happens when comparing the cost per mile against the cost per mile. 2 is less than 10. 2 is cheaper than 10 by more than a little. In easy to understand terms: I drive up to the gas station and pay 80 dollars. I drive in the garage and spend 2 dollars to charge my car up over night. 80 dollars can last me one month if I don't drive around much. The 'savings' is already in the books as reported above where the 30 mile per gallon gas vehicle at 3 dollars per gallon is 10 cents per mile. My truck does not average 30 miles per gallon and gasoline is now almost 4 dollars per gallon. The electric car is 2 (not 10) cents per mile. Back to practical knowlege? Suppose I can go 500 miles in the truck for 80 dollars? Compare that to range on the car that charges up in four hours at a cost of 2 dollar per charge. What is the range on that car? With the All Electric Aptera, it is very easy to figure out the mileage range. The mileage is determined by the distance you can drive, under normal circumstances, until the batteries are effectively drained. In the case of the first Aptera typ-1e, we have calculated the range to be about 120miles. More power is needed to drive up a steep hill that goes on and on and on for 120 miles. Less power is required to go down hill. This is very simple. The Tesla car has brakes that generate electricity so going down a steep hill or using the brakes adds more power to the batteries. Suppose my new car does go 100 miles on 2 dollars worth of electricity and I go 500 miles in two weeks. That will be 5 charges worth or 10 dollars worth of power. My truck costs 80 dollars to drive 500 miles. 10 dollars or 80 dollars for 500 miles should not be a difficult choice. That supposed a requirement to pay for electricity. Enter stage left: Solar Panels. I will check current prices again and I will map out what I call Power-Independence Day again. The idea here is to know the cost of purchasing one Solar Panel and then find out how much time it takes to generate the power needed to pay for the Solar panel. That will find Power-Independence Day. The Solar Panel on Power-Independence Day will pay for itself. Then the idea is to know how much more time is left before the Solar Panel runs out of power. This is simple people. Economists like to throw out words that sound really important like “depreciation”; and that is fine. The Power-Independence concept is easier to see than the concept of “depreciation”. You spend your hard earned income on a Solar Panel. The Solar Panel generates electricity for about 25 years. If you use the electricity during that 25 years time you don’t pay for that electricity for 25 years time. If the total amount of electricity you generate in 25 years time is big, like a BIG electric bill, then you pay for that Solar Panel by generating INCOME from the Sun. If you generate a whole lot of electricity in 25 years your income is more than the cost of the Solar Panel. How much more power is produced from a Solar Panel over (more than) the cost of the Solar Panel. The last time I calculated this cost/benefit ratio the numbers were almost twice the cost of the Solar Panel. In other words one Solar Panel can pay for itself and than that Solar Panel continues to make enough income to buy one more Solar Panel. That is like hiring an illegal alien (from Mars?) to pedal a bicycle to generate income for 15 years and then having that worker work for free for 10 years or so. All that is needed is CREDIT to get the ball rolling or SAVINGS if you have no CREDIT or if CREDIT is too expensive (interest rate is high). Numbers: http://www.solarhome.org/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=100 That is a 100 watt Solar Panel (quick search) and the cost is 600 dollars. SW modules are manufactured to comply with U.S. and international standards, and are UL listed and carry a 25-year, 80% power output warranty. The idea here is to figure out how much total power is produced and see by that measure if the thing will actually pay for itself. Suppose the Sun shines for 10 hours a day. This is a ball park number; just for fun. The reality of these facts is unquestionably true while our ability to see the facts and then use those facts to our advantage is not unquestionably true. 10 hours per day for 365 days per year and 25 years is 91,250 hours. The idea behind using hours as a measure of INCOME is due to the measure of price/cost of electricity. Look on your electric bill and see the price of electricity. The price is based upon a kilowatt hour. The Solar Panel is measured in watts at 100 watts in this case for this Solar Panel. A watt is generated every second. That is a lot of seconds a lot of minutes and a lot of hours. Time goes on for 25 years at 100 watts. If the Solar Panel generates electricity for 10 hours then the Solar Panel generates 100 watts for 10 hours. That is 100 kilowatt hours for 10 hours or 1 kilowatt hour. That could be multiplied by 365 and 25 to arrive at total power produced. 9,125,000 Either way the math works out the same. That number is total watt hours. A kilowatt is 1000 watts so take away three zeros to get total kilowatt hours produced in 25 years. This doesn’t have to be so complicated. The advertisers could figure this all out for you if competition was working instead of our current form of “Capitalism” which is really National Socialism. 9,125 total kilowatt hours of income produced for a Solar Panel that costs 600 dollars. How much does electricity cost? Here things become very funny and not in the ‘ha-ha’ sense. Pay attention to actual rate changes during ‘peak hours’ and the advertised rate of price on electricity is irrelevant, however we need a ball park. http://www.energy.ca.gov/electricity/current_electricity_rates.html We can use 12 cents per kilowatt-hour. 9,125 total kilowatt hours of income produced in 25 years at 12 cents per kilowatt hour equals a total income of power. 9,125 times .12 equals 1095 Granted, please, this is very rough figures. The point is to point out how the Solar Panel is like hiring an illegal alien from mars to pedal a generator on the roof of your home. The worker works for a total salary of 600 dollars while the worker produces for you a total income of 1,095 dollars. You save about 400 dollars. The illegal alien works 10 hours a day, every day, for 25 years guaranteed. You end up paying negative 400 dollars for investment and that is the cost of your fuel for your car. The cost is negative. You earn income. Someone pays you 400 dollars for buying a Solar Panel. If you do not see this, then don’t. Pay, like me, 80 dollars to go 500 miles instead of paying 10 dollars to go 500 miles and instead of having someone pay you 400 dollars to use their power. Who pays out the 400 dollars? The sun pays. The sun powers us up. Wake up woman. Wake up man, the sun is shining. Last edited on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 02:00 pm by Joe Kelley |
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| Posted: Wed Apr 30th, 2008 05:24 pm |
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http://www.lewrockwell.com/north/north622.html +++++++++++ The hostility of Keynesians to thrift is legendary. They believe that consumption stimulates the economy. +++++++++++ When power is used to produce power producing products, get this please, less power becomes more power. This is a fact that can be seen with any expenditure of power resulting in a profit where the word profit does not mean 'to take power from someone'. When profit is defined as an increase in value resulting from productive investment - no one has to lose. No one has to lose. Iraqi human beings, babies, children, teen aged people, and even old people do not have to lose. Iranian people do not have to lose. People who move their life savings from retirement accounts to government securities do not have to lose. Profit can be the application of power invested toward the production of more power. The Solar Panel is one example of that type of investment. The Wind Generator is another example of that type of investment. The hydro-electric dam is another example of that type of investment. The power to produce it is X and the power that comes out of it is Y. Y is greater than X. Power produced into a state of over-supply causes the price of power to reach toward zero. When power, productive power like electricity, reaches that low cost over abundance condition the power to purchase with monetary power increases and this happens because productive power, like electricity, lowers the costs of production. What happens to ‘our’ economy when the price of electricity and the price of a barrel of oil halves? Please figure that out and see if it computes. I don’t want no stinking Nobel Prize. How about some sanity?
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| Posted: Thu May 8th, 2008 11:52 am |
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Joe Kelley Administrator
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http://powerofnarrative.blogspot.com/2008/05/nightmare-made-real-torture-murder-and.htmlYou may now remove the "probably" from the last sentence of that excerpt. There is no question in my mind that the Democrats and their whore apologists -- including their supporters and apologists among the progressive bloggers -- are worse, and much more sickening. To repeatedly and loudly insist that you view certain policies and behaviors as evil, while you simultaneously do nothing of any significance to oppose them or slow them down or, still worse, act to further them, requires a lethal, murderous dishonesty that should be deeply sickening to any semi-decent human being.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 9th, 2008 07:51 pm |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 11th, 2008 12:37 pm |
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Joe Kelley Administrator
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http://www.lewrockwell.com/kwiatkowski/kwiatkowski204.html
My objection to that work concerns partisan ignorance. How can I explain? The legal criminals stole the word “capitalism” from honest people who do not plan on and then follow up on the injury of innocence, on purpose, for profit (plunder). Capitalism is now a term that describes legal crime whereby people who call themselves capitalists plan on and follow through with the injury of innocent people, on purpose, for profit. That part of my objection is intimately known by many people including Hugo Chavez. The usurpation of the word “capitalism” from honest people who do not intend to harm anyone, by false advertising, or any other pre-planned, pre-judged, and pre-arranged method of injuring unsuspecting and vulnerable people (consumers at large) is much like the usurpation of the word “socialism” from honest people who do not intend to harm anyone, by false advertising, or any other pre-planned, pre-judged, and pre-arranged method of injuring unsuspecting and vulnerable people. Example: http://www.anarchism.net/scienceofsociety.htm
Another example exists to clearly illustrate how honest people who intend to harm no one on purpose for profit have their terms stolen from them. Between the time where the law of the land in America was The Articles of Confederation and then The U.S. Constitution a group of people called themselves REBELS. The Rebels were also Federalists or Con-Federalists. These Rebels had their “Federalist” label stolen from them by “Nationalists” who hid behind the stolen name “Federalist” and then these “Nationalists” glommed on the name “Anti-Federalists” to anyone who rebelled against the change from The Articles of Confederation to the U.S. Constitution. Example: http://www.wakeforest.edu/~zulick/340/henry.html
That brings me to the crime of stealing the true meaning of democracy from the honest people who do not plan for and then execute plundering the innocent victims by deceit, trickery, torture, and mass murder. Democracy was once a peaceful means of abolishing criminal governments before people were left with no power other than ‘tax avoidance’ by deceit or open rebellion. Why has ‘capitalism’ maintained it shiny coat through all this while ‘socialism’ continues to be demonized? What happened to accurate currency? Why snuff out true meanings of words used by honest people who successfully rebel and avoid suffering tyranny where the tyrants plan on and execute false advertized capitalistic profiteering? Example: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3883148810958929341 THE REVOLUTION WILL NOT BE TELEVISED And my final objection concerns which Austrian school will earn the support of honesty peaceful people who do not intend to harm people on purpose for profit. Example: http://www.lewrockwell.com/north/north512.html One solution is free banking. This was Ludwig von Mises’ suggestion. There would be no bank regulation, no central bank monopolies, no bank licensing, and no legal barriers to entry. Let the most efficient banks win! In other words, the solution is a free market in money. If the revolution includes a currency monopoly, then that is socialism. If there is no law that punishes competition in the currency markets, then that is socialism. The ability to employ terms is not the same thing as the power to enforce the meaning of terms. Last edited on Wed Jun 11th, 2008 12:53 pm by Joe Kelley |
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| Posted: Sat Jun 21st, 2008 02:16 pm |
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http://www.lewrockwell.com/alston/alston44.html
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30th, 2008 06:20 pm |
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Joe Kelley Administrator
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http://www.tnr.com/story_print.html?id=3bc0e959-3b4e-440d-9b99-69078429b82c
Scarceonomics? I see the "what the market will bear" pricing scheme in that type of monetary crankism which has been employed to rationalize the interest/profit/wage paying/limited liability/corporate/nation/state/systematic extortion by legal currency fraud monopoly crime. You may not see it.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30th, 2008 11:56 pm |
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Joe Kelley Administrator
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http://mises.org/story/2874
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