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| Posted: Tue Dec 13th, 2011 12:35 pm |
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Joe Kelley Administrator
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Today is: 12-13-2011 Liberty Day is approaching from the horizon. Karma Electric For those of you who are taken in by the false story concerning electric cars I have a few comments. The Sun sends to Earth enough power to make power abundant on Earth if only the Honest Productive People would grow balls and fire the Legal Criminals, replace the Legal Criminals with Honest Productive People, and end the Monopoly on Human Power. Those who seek power over other people must make power scarce; failing that the potential victims have too much power, and this is a relative state of human existence. There are obvious, accurate, measurable ways to know, see, understand, conceptualize, perceive, contemplate, calculate, conceive, and be conscious of the Power Struggle. One is this: Power Struggle Measure That measures almost exactly how much relative power the few have over the many, and that measure shows which way the power struggle is going, as the few grow more powerful and the many grow less powerful, and how the total available power is decreasing. How does that U.S. Debt Clock measure of the Power Struggle relate to the Electric Car and the Power sent to Earth from the Sun? That is a very interesting question, and one worth answering accurately. How much did the first computer cost, the one that was the first one, and who benefited from it, at that time? Before answering that question ask a similar question and then answer both questions in due time. Question 2: How much does the highest quality and lowest cost personal computer available in any store, on-line, or off-line, cost today, and who benefits from that one, or those many examples of that highest quality and lowest cost personal computer? Now think about a single person somewhere, and this person can be imaginary, or this person can be alive today, and this person is known by the fact that this person uses the Sun to convert the power of the Sun into the power needed to grow all the food that this person needs, and extra food for sale to people in need, and this person uses Sun power to pump, filter, and deliver all the water that this person needs, and extra water for sale to people in need, and this person uses the Sun power to fuel this persons car, and cook this person's food, and heat and cool this persons home, and this person produces enough extra power to sell to people in need, and this person has this set-up working in one place on Earth. This one person has this Independent Power set-up working now, in the same way that someone had the first computer working when that first computer was working that first time for that first person using it. Jack, and anyone who knows me, and anyone who knew me, and anyone who is just now reading this, thinking, wondering, was there something about this person, and is there something about this person, where this person appears to be different, and the difference appears to be interesting, and the difference appears to be even, what is the word, hopeful, or expectant, as if this person may hatch something, some day. The day has arrived and passed, and what I found out is interesting, and what I found out is hopeful, and what I found out can be known by more people than just me, if only, if only the Honest Productive People would grow some fucking balls and fire the Legal Criminals, stop sending them the power they then use to make us suffer, and set upon the path that uses power to create power into a state of abundance. Once power is no longer throttled back, willfully, by the Legal Criminals and all who provide the Legal Criminals with the power they use to make us suffer (throttling back our power to use power to make more power), once we grow up, grow balls, grow powerful, grow intelligence, grow wisdom, grow knowledge, grow out of the rat trap we work hard to build, once that happens, the BOOM cycle can BOOM without the Legal Criminals forcing a BUST cycle upon us. It can't be, always be, guns and butter, bread and circuses, or a bowl full of cherries, and sometimes it will be a poke in the eye with a sharp stick, but we do not have to pay people to make us suffer on purpose. That practice has to end. If you have not yet figured out the least bit of this, not yet, and if, before you pay for your own destruction, assuming that you manage to avoid paying for your own destruction, before figuring out at least one thing, please consider figuring out Banking Interest. Read, for example, The Parasite City, and I will provide to you the link to this information, and this information can travel to every person on this Globe who has an interest in knowing this information, because now we are all connected, and now the censors have almost no power to throttle down the power of learning. It is nearly game over for the Legal Criminals. We have the power, always have had the power, and it is merely a matter of realization by numbers. One is not powerful enough, the realization must reach more than one, then two, then four, then sixteen, then Two Hundred and Fifty Six, and then Sixty Five Thousand Five Hundred and Thirty Six so on and so forth growing exponentially. Power in Numbers The language spoken is Old English and Math. I can use new English, with new words, to help any reader understand the Math. The Math is accurate, uncontested, without error, stark, naked, truth. The English is what English is, and it is as full of holes as the writer and reader wish to make and to fill with any meaning under the sun. I like to use math. This is how I do it: Take reasonable averages and get out a calculator. Each working person born into the Parasite Legal Crime Ring (here in America, and in much of the world today, this Legal Crime Ring is known as The Dollar Hegemony, or you can call it U.S.A. Inc LLC, or you can call it The Federal Reserve System of Extortion, or you can ignore it, at your peril, as you pay into it, and receive nothing in return, since you are born into it as one of those who constitute the Host, and what you receive back, in the way of interest, is merely illusion, you are being taken to the cleaners relative to what your work would earn to you without the Parasite City working it's magic, feeding the few, at the cost of the many). English is a tough nut, return to math: Take the population of America at roughly 3 Hundred Million People and cut that number down to a very rough, but easy to work, number of 1 Hundred Million producers of anything worth stealing. Know this much: Legal Criminals can't steal from each other, they are all criminals, there must be actual honest people producing something worth stealing. 100,000,000 One Hundred Million Honest Productive Americans Producing Surplus Wealth. 100,000,000 People producing more than those 100,000,000 People can consume at the moment, and therefore their production isn't nailed down, isn't locked up, isn't held back, isn't stored in places that the Legal Criminals can't find it, and that extra production of wealth is called Surplus Wealth, lying about, ready for the plucking. 100,000,000 People producing Surplus Wealth and they need to live in houses. How many houses? How much does it cost to buy an average House? How about making this easy to see, if not as accurate as humanly possible, at least make this math stuff easy to understand, for now, so make the average house priced at 100,000 dollars. 100,000,0000 People Producing 100,000 dollar houses for sale. Productive people make houses, so those productive people sell those houses to the other productive people who buy those houses, and that works fine, but there is more math, and there is more English to squeeze into this situation. How does one productive person pay another productive person for a house? Another person dreams up a need for a license to sell money, and then the person with that license charges all the productive people a charge, a price, to use the money produced by the person who has the license. The person who has the license is the only person who has the license, and that person is a corporation, and that corporation is The Federal Reserve System of Extortion a.k.a. The Dollar Hegemony (LLC). Back to math: 100,000,000 People borrowing 100,000 dollars to buy 100,000,000 homes - perpetually. The perpetual part is very difficult to measure with math or English, but you can conceptualize each home built, and you can find the record of who owns each home, how long each home is owned by each owner, and how many mortgages are owned by each of the branches of sellers of mortgages branched out from the one license holder known as The Federal Reserve System of Extortion. We can dispense with the perpetual refinancing math problem and focus only on the one time home mortgage, so as to get to the bottom line. 100,000,000 People borrowing 100,000 dollars to buy 100,000,000 homes once - and forever. One license holder prints up the money to lend to the 100,000,000 people at 10% interest, and I'll use 10 because it is a round number, an easy number, and the same principle applies to any interest charge at all. You can use 1%. You can use 5%. I'll use 10%. You can use 20%. I'll use 10% interest. 100,000,000 People borrowing 100,000 dollars to buy 100,000,000 homes once - and forever. How much of the surplus wealth created by the Honest Productive People will be transferred to the one license Holder, so as to pay off all costs required to run this Banking Business, and to start filling up the Bankers personal Bank accounts? 30 years is the number of years used to pay off home mortgage loans, on average, some are contracted out with less time, I don't know of any that are contracted out with more time. 100,000,000 People borrowing 100,000 dollars to buy 100,000,000 homes once - and forever, and an amount of Earnings, or Surplus Wealth, flows to the one license holder who sells the money used to buy those homes, and that one license holder will collect 10% (or 3%, or 14%, etc.) as a price charged for the use of dollars. 100,000,000 TIMES 100,000 100,000,000 x 100,000 100,000,000 100,000 Count the zeros 10,000,000,000,000 10% of 10,000,000,000,000 is what? Why do the Legal Criminals dream up words like "Annex" when they want to invade and occupy an area of the Earth where Honest Productive People are ripe for exploitation? 10% of 10,000,000,000,000 is what? Take away 2 zeros. How simple is it to understand Banking Interest? In 30 years time there will be a transfer of Earnings, or Surplus Wealth, transferred from the Honest People who create those Earnings flowing to those people who have the one legal license to make Legal Money, and the one legal license to charge people to use that one Legal Money. The one time payment of money from all the one time home buyers, who take out one loan, pay how much money to The Federal Reserve Corporation Owners? What is 10% of 10,000,000,000,000? In context of buying a home while using the Legal Money produced by the one Legal Money supplier, at the enforced rate of interest, whatever the makes of dollars determine to be that rate, based upon how much money they create, relative to how much surplus wealth is created, they, those Legal Criminals, get the cost of one home for each home sold. The percentages, or interest, can be deceptive over a long period of time such as 30 years. It becomes obvious when using an amortization program, as to how much is paid to the bankers for the use of their money. How about an example? Calculator 877.57 x 360 = 315925.2 300,000 for a 100,000 dollar home? What do the bankers do to earn two homes for each home sold? And sold again. And sold again.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15th, 2011 08:16 pm |
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Today is: 12-15-2011 Liberty Day can arrive when you are told to let it arrive. Manufacturing Consent
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| Posted: Sat Dec 17th, 2011 10:55 pm |
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Joe Kelley Administrator
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Today is: 12-17-2011 Liberty Day can be Plan B for those who regain Liberty. Plan B I pick that item from many because it helps focus on two things. A. Legalizing Crime, so as to perpetuate crime; which is Plan A B. Law as a tool used to avoid the business of crime altogether; which is Plan B The idea that is very difficult, obviously, for the reader is the mind-set owned by criminals as criminals seize the power of law; and then use that law power in the work that is necessary in order to eliminate all the lesser criminals: to make one criminal power the dominant criminal power. Plan A is Legal Crime You are not supposed to know this, and there is more than ample evidence proving that knowing this is against the Plan A Law. I have, and I can, site the actual Laws that outlaw the knowing of this fact. You can go on not knowing this fact, and obey that order. Just following orders - don't you know? I'm going to read the article linked above now. I trust that other people read that article too, and in so doing the reader is armed with a competitive viewpoint, a viewpoint that can be compared with the false viewpoint, whereby the "authorities" are doing what they can to help people. Stop calling them "authorities" and consider the facts, consider calling them what they are, by what they do, not what they say, and they are criminals, and they are criminals who have stolen the power of law, and they then make what they do legal, they make their crimes legal, and they use the power they have stolen to ensure that no one else can commit the crimes that they alone authorize themselves to commit - perpetually. From the article is the following quote: The banks and those whose wealth and power is tied to them, would obviously prefer Plan A to succeed. It makes governments do all the dirty work and it would profit the banks far more in the long run. If you want to bleed a man – kill him and you get about 5 litres/quarts. But strap him to a gurney with a catheter in his arm and a drip feed in his nose, and he will bleed for you for as long as his system can stand it. That is Plan A. But what if it fails? I can already read into this article the self-destructive false dialect; whereby group A (Conservative Republican Free Market People) is battling group B (Liberal Democrat Regulated Market People) for control, and for power. That is self-destructive because that is a false battle. I find this to be the case often; whereby intelligent people are led into this trap of fixing their viewpoint into this false box, seeing this false forest, and failing to see outside of that false box, and failing to see the real forest, because the viewer is focusing their viewpoint on only 2 cardboard trees that have been placed in front of the real forest where the real battle is taking place. This is not news, this type of false battle, or false front, goes back to a guy named Hegel and probably well before that guy too. In this Hegelian Dialectic there is a formula by which a Thesis is constructed (one of the false trees, such as that false Conservative Republican Free Market cardboard tree), and that Thesis is then made to stand and encounter a second false construction called an Anti-Thesis. The Thesis (republican) and the Anti-Thesis (in this case it is the Liberal Democrat Regulatory false cardboard tree) are then set into battle so as to cause the battle to occur, to make it so, and that process leads to what is called Synthesis. Thesis/Anti-Thesis = Synthesis Republican/Democrat = Legalized Crime See? No, you don't see, most of you, because you are trained into that box, and you can't see out of that box, you are a part of the process, you within Synthesis, and so is the writer of the article. Once out of the box it is obvious that the battle is false and false on purpose so as to move power from the many to the few, and once that is known, by enough people, all that is needed is for the victims of that Thesis/Anti-Thesis = Synthesis Legal Crime to do, to escape it, is to wake up some fine morning and stop playing. Once that game is no longer on the list of things to do, the former victims will soon invent and maintain other options, competitive options, and in particular the new inventions will be along the lines of accurate mediums of exchange - such as accurate money. Like this: Before tomorrow morning - please “It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.” - Henry Ford I'm going to go back to the article, knowing that the author has been duped, and my effort will be to find accurate information within the words published, to quote, and to comment upon - outside the box - and looking at the forest despite the false trees. You can do whatever you can - in Liberty. The answer to all these questions lie in a change to Bankruptcy laws that happened around the world between 2002 and 05. This might seem like a detour into nerd city but it is not. It is the key. What the reader may want to realize, on that line of thinking, is an obvious power play between those who lend and those who borrow. In the past the power of law was such that responsibility was shared between borrower and lender to such a degree that a borrower in default was not punished with incarceration - imprisonment. Know this for what it was, and watch it change before your eyes, as now, for example, students who have borrowed are being offered deals "that they can't refuse" to pay off their debts by doing time in the Military, and other examples are occurring, here in U.S.A. Inc. (LLC), whereby debtors are being punished for failure to pay debts, and the punishments are now entering into the practice of jailing, and imprisoning people for the crime of failing to pay debts. If you have been, like most people, born into a time, in America, where debtors were not imprisoned for the crime of failing to pay debts, then this is one of those things that you can measure for your own self, knowing, that the "times they are a changin'". For those who will be born into a world where failure to pay debt, debt that they are born owing, is a capital crime, resulting in imprisonment, well, welcome to the new world order - and have a nice day - this is what life is, too bad for you, your parents let it happen, on their watch. Tough tities - and that is it for me today.
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| Posted: Mon Dec 19th, 2011 08:42 pm |
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Joe Kelley Administrator
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Today is: 12-19-2011 Liberty Day is behind us, and now we can move onto life in Liberty, which is a responsibility to help other people, if they want help, escaping from those powers that ruin, destroy, torture, mass murder, and end Liberty. Ron Paul on Jay Leno I stopped watching that Show at a point where I would have answered the questions Jay Leno asked in a different way compared to the way Ron Paul answered the question. I will rewind the video from where I stopped it, and then I will quote the question from Jay Leno. You may think that the question is a good question. Jay Leno: "Elaborate on State rights..." Before I offer my answer I have to say that Ron Paul does a very good job of pointing out how State's do not have rights; people have rights, not States. I would elaborate on that if asked. But for now the question concerns how a Republic is designed to work and this is very simple. Each State can try out such things as Public Education, and Social Security, and Single Payer Medical Insurance, and Minimum Wage, and anything that the people in each State want to try. Those things are not within the boundaries of what a Federal Government can do, and notice how I do not use the word Nation. The simple idea is such that a State that grows despotic will be a State that will undermine it's own power, as the tax payers who care not to suffer despotism move to a State that does not grow despotic. Imagine, for example, that the Nation State wasn't one, and instead of that Nation State called U.S.A. Inc. (LLC), which is falsely called a Federal Government, instead of it, consider for a minute what would have happened if only 1 of the States acted the way that the Nation State acts now. Consider, for example, if New Jersey was the only State that acted like U.S.A., which is a Nation State, and what if all the other States, all 49 other States, were as they were during the time when this country was a Democratic Federated Republican Competitive Experimental Voluntary government of 13 Separate and Sovereign States. You may need help in realizing how that would be in real terms. Take, first, the National Debt, and place that Debt only on those people in New Jersey, because that is the only State that is acting like this Nation State called U.S.A. Inc. (LLC), in this hypothetical example. All the other States do not tax as much as New Jersey, in this hypothetical example which intends to explain why a Federal Government is limited in what it can do, and why States within the Federal Government are allowed to experiment with different levels of taxation (with, or without representation). Right now, here, in this Nation State, with the misnamed (false name) Federal Government, there is a monopoly force, and it is, in effect, one government power, and it rules over all the States, and it rules over all the people, and there is no competition. Now, here in this despotic Nation State, it is "love it or leave it", no where to run, no where to hide, the National Debt Collectors find all the tax payers in each state, and they collect, and they collect, and they collect, and there is no competitive option, no trial and error, no voting with your feet, there is obey, and that is all there is, just obey. If it were a Federal Government, and not a Nation State, and if New Jersey was as despotic as our Nation State, then how many tax payers would still live in New Jersey, if they could vote with their feet, inside the Federation, and move to Virginia, for example, where Virginia didn't become despotic, didn't increase taxes well in excess of anything anyone would ever agree to, if they had a choice. That is the answer as to what State's could do, in a Democratic Republican Federation, they could sink or swim, based upon how well they provide exactly what The People want, at any given time in the history of a Democratic Republican Federation - which this is not, not here, not in U.S.A. Inc. (LLC) - here is what is accurately known as fascism, or a legalized monopoly of control that the few have over the many. I'm going to listen for more that Ron Paul has to say to Jay Leno - before Ron Paul is as gone as the Federation that once was, back before The Constitution eliminated it.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22nd, 2011 01:50 pm |
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Joe Kelley Administrator
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Today is: 12-22-2011 Liberty Day is to those who want it: liberating. How about a show down? It won't happen without two opponents who are willing to compete, against a worthy opponent. So far there is no such show down. I have found a few examples of what a show down once was, but is no more, unless two worthy opponents compete. Out of two competitive monies, or ideas, or perceptions, or things of value, there will be one that is understood to be higher in quality than the other, and one other thing. The better competitor will be lower in cost. If you can't admit that, then what are you? Stupid? I can't say. I have yet to meet a worthy opponent. Suppose, for the sake of argument, or even better, for the sake of life, and for the sake of improvement through discussion, where two worthy opposing perspectives meet so as to find which part of which perspective is of less quality and of higher cost, and which part of which perspective is of higher quality and of lower cost, and supposing this, the idea is such that one money meets another money and from that meeting all the low qualities are exposed and set aside, and all the high costs are exposed and set aside, and out from that meeting there emerges an improved money, and that money is ready to meet the next worthy opponent. Can you see, here, a function occurring, and a quality occurring, and a process occurring, by which old, value-less, costly, and inferior things are left behind as new, greater value, lower cost, and superior things thrive? Here is where the perspective that is brought to you is an example of that process. Is the perspective you bring, use, offer, produce, process, enjoy, employ, a competitive one, or not? If it is not, then it is not a part of the process. If it is not, it is dictatorial, monopolistic, uncompetitive, unworthy, and destructive by nature, because that is what it does, it fails to meet the challenge of competition, and therefore it fails to engage in the vital, necessary, process by which faults and costs are exposed, to be challenged, to be set aside, and to allow for improvement once improvement becomes obvious, measurable, and superior. This is not a case of opinion, or subjectivity, or individual preference for one thing, unless the perceiver admits one thing. The perceiver admits that the one thing is a preference for lower quality and higher cost - by definition. Myopic vision. Well, there is an ulterior motive, a hidden objective, and that is easy to understand, but the person with myopic vision won't confess, not to a potential victim, and not to a potential liberator of the victim, you see, of course you see, the ulterior motive involves the willful intent to pass on costs and to pass on lower quality to the victims, that is why the myopic vision is embraced, the low cost alternatives are not allowed to exist, for if they did, if the low cost alternatives were allowed to exist, then those low cost alternatives would exist for everyone, including the victims. I'm setting the stage for a fight of the century, a fight that always happens to be a fight of the century, and the score cards are made obvious to those with an interest in making the score cards obvious, but the actual reality of which fighter is wining, if you have an interest in knowing, may not be as readily perceivable as the "for public consumption" score cards such as this: Debt Clock How about a historical example of an actual battle between competitive visions of reality, and you can throw your own hat into the ring, so as to see which of the competitors offer the higher quality and lower cost viewpoint? I found this gem when searching for competitors, of which there are few, very, very, few. Dsicussion Example What, you may ask, is this Joe guy going on about now. Blind obedience to falsehood is the exact opposite, almost, of competition, life, and liberty; because blind obedience to falsehood doesn't work for the victims, nor the criminals who enforce it. Life ends when competition ends, and that is because therein, within, that process, is the power that forces adaptation, to bring forth an example of a thing that is more powerful than all that would defeat it. Life goes on, when the process works. When the process, of competition, is snuffed out, life follows that same path, for failure to compete, to force quality higher, and to force cost lower, to fail to use the power available in the work of making more power available, as myopic, monopolistic, dictatorial, single minded, simple minded, stagnation, sets in, and consumes itself. Life must meet all challenges, not shy away, not hide, not cower, not invent false images to cover the real powers that threaten life, or failing, life ends, for lack of that competitive power, the power that meets all opposition head-on, and finds the way to overcome. Read the link, see what you think, and note how discussion intends to work, as a tool, used by life forms, to compare notes, to find faults, where faults can be found, and to find a higher quality, more accurate, more adaptive, more useful, more profitable, more powerful process, viewpoint, event, going on, and on, to the next challenge, better armed, as a result of the improvement, going from lower quality, higher cost, to higher quality, and lower cost, and doing that again, and again, and again, reaching for what? Life. What is the alternative? Don't ask, don't tell? What, Joe, happened to your mantra about money, over, and over, and over again? Why this diversion onto Love and Marriage? The process works from the fundamental cellular level of life, on through human reproduction, and all that humans have learned to adapt to, since that adaptation, including the process of finding the highest quality, and lowest cost, MEDIUM OF EXCHANGE. Has life evolved from mold to human beings so as to get to a point at which the process by which life evolves is then discarded for a preference for low quality and high cost? A. Adapt and life on. B. Crawl back under rocks and hope that God recreates paradise on Earth? What, prey tell, is the motive behind avoidance of adaptive competition? I now present to you a link to a source of information that has inspired in me, a great interest, and a desire, and a need to write to you, to offer to you a show trial, a meeting of the minds, a clash of perspectives, and a head-on, no holds barred, show down. Of Interest to Gold Bugs In simple terms, as simple as I can get, the concept of this competition involves two diametric opposites as such: A. Combine power in the process of using power to make more power. B. Combine power in the process of using power to consume power. But the reader is probably lost, and that is because the reader has followed to myopic path too long, accepting the fashionable practice of accepting less for more, which is the same thing as saying that the concept followed is one of being a victim, which is being a criminal, which is being a victim, depending upon who as stolen more from whom at any given moment. A. Liberty B. Death And that is not simple enough, or that is too complicated, or who cares, I just want to crawl back under my rock and hope that God produces paradise, for me, for my wise choices in life. So, there you have a modern day Gold Bug, someone who preaches the value of Gold as Money, but, and this is the point at which the men are separated from dark matter, is there value in actually proving the value of gold as money in competition with higher quality and lower cost competitors to gold as money? The point here is to point out that it is competition that is higher in value, and lower in cost, to the alternative, which is the enforced, or subsidized, or monopolized, gold money scheme. Use gold or be punished. A. Use gold or be punished B. Competition to see which is best, which is highest in quality, and lowest in cost A. Know B. Be told which is, or is not, without any proof, without any competitive alternatives even allowed to contend for favor, use, employment, understanding, be ordered to accept, be punished for not accepting, the one, and only, thing. If the choice is to know, then logically, reasonably, thoughtfully, and carefully, even morally, the choice is to entertain the possibility that an alternative exists. There is, always, pressure to know sooner, rather than too late, which is called expedience, and with all things, that truth, that known requirement to expedite the process, to expatiate, to bring about in time, can be half true, can be turned against, and can be used to deceive, a more sinister purpose. Which is it? These choices have occurred, are occurring, and so long as life clings to life, these choices will continue to occur. So now, you have much to digest, and from the corner where Gold Bugs are fighting their fight, using deception, or failing to even entertain options, and propping up fake opponents, so as to hide the real competitors from view, concepts of value, and concepts of cost, and a choice is presented to you, from the Gold Bugs, as such: A. Gold as legal money B. Legal Crime, or fraud, or extortion, as the one and only alternative Hidden from view is a competitive alternative, as the Gold Bugs cover up the competitive alternative with false garb, false fronts, false flags, false, and willfully misleading misinformation intending to measure the true competitor incorrectly, inaccurately, to cover up the real competitor with a false advertisement, false color, false filter, false spin, false propaganda, false, and misleading information, false currency, false and fraudulent misrepresentation of the actual competitor. The actual competitor is competition. Real competition. Higher quality competition, and lower cost competition, hidden from view, so as to appear as if there is no alternative. A. No alternative B. Alternatives that are, measurably, higher in quality, and measurably lower in cost. Who pays the cost? Check the fine print. In Love and Marriage, a discussion, there is a speaker who produces a higher quality currency, news items, comments, viewpoints, data, information, and the speakers name is Stephen Pearl Andrews. If ever an Honest Productive American existed, Stephen Pearl Andrews existed. He left bread crumbs on the way to Liberty. Of interest to Gold Bugs, for example, is that road away from serfdom. Here it is: Andrews offers competitive data Consider the advice, of not getting caught up in the need to judge the winner of the current fight between Gold as money and Labor Dollars as money, please, consider the understanding that the fight has to be fought, between the winner of any fight, and the next challenger, for failing to fight the good fight, is the end of competition, and even more, it is the end of life, and that is the competitive message brought to you. And I can quote: A field which has no fence upon one of it's sides is not fenced in, no mater how high and strong its fences may be on the other sides. What that means, in effect, is that life will succeed even when the power to destroy life is very powerful, and you may not see that fact, in those words, in that context. Truth with set you free. Free from what? Free from lies, and fraud, and the costs borne by those who are not yet free. If you do not read the links provided, you can't blame me for your state of ignorance, and if you resort to deception, you pick up that sword, and you will perish, miserably, by that willful act you choose. Seek higher quality, and lower cost, it won't arrive on a silver platter, and if riches flow to you, in abundance, as you represent one of the few, consider where those riches are produced, and who pays the cost to produce them - or ignore, for lack of care, lack of interest, or lack of time and energy, those sources of power as those sources of power flow to you.
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| Posted: Fri Dec 30th, 2011 06:45 pm |
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Today is: 12-30-2011 Soon we may actually make it to 2012 Maybe not
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| Posted: Wed Jan 4th, 2012 07:06 pm |
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Today is 01-04-2012 Liberty Day is where it is earned. I thought something recently concerning the Republican Political People, that group of people, concerning what will happen when (if) they fail to nominate Ron Paul as a Republican contender hoisted into the limelight, ready to expose the current Dictator in Chief. Got that? OK, what if those idiot Republicans do fail to offer a contender to the throne, and what if, then, Ron Paul joins Jesse Ventura as Independent Candidates for President and Vice President. Fewer people watched Ron Paul tear apart the lunacy of all the other Republican candidates during the Debates involving only Republican candidates, but many people will watch the Debates (assuming there will be any) between the Lame Duck Dictator Obama and the other Presidential Candidates. Does anyone other than me remember Ross Perot spreading the word about the National Debt when he was allowed to speak at the Debates in 1992? If the Republican fail to give Ron Paul the credit he deserves, and place him up against the Dictator in Chief, Osama Obama, then it may well be that they are shooting themselves in the foot, since an Independent Ron Paul Presidential Campaign, with or without Jesse Ventura, would most certainly divide (take away) Republican votes during the Presidential Election. Are they really that stupid?
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| Posted: Mon Jan 9th, 2012 11:55 am |
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Joe Kelley Administrator
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Today is: 01-09-2012 Liberty Day is interpretable by actions derived from the way we see our existence - for as long as it lasts. For as long as it lasts.
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| Posted: Tue Jan 10th, 2012 09:50 am |
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Joe Kelley Administrator
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Today is 01-10-2012 Liberty Day is each day is it freely given, or earned when not freely given. I have two things found and earmarked, or held in reserve, banked, stored, queued, made ready, on deck; before reading, linking, and commenting on these items of data: I see a need, or opportunity, to recap the whole Liberty Day concept. Liberty Day can be a shared method of combining all the individual powers of all the individuals who care to, and will, give, and earn, Liberty for themselves, and for anyone else sharing the same goal of Liberty. Liberty is for all, or Liberty isn't for all. Those who are not in Liberty fall into one category, and that one category falls into two categories as such: I. Those in Liberty a. those who give it b. those who earn it II. Those trapped in the abject belief in falsehood and destructive violence a. Those who willfully target and exploit the innocent b. The innocent who are targeted and exploited Men, Women, and Responsible, Accountable, Human Beings, do not allow innocent children to be targeted and exploited by criminals, once Women, Men, and Responsible, and Accountable Human Beings know the truth of those helpless victims as they suffer at the hands of those criminals. To give Liberty, it stands to reason, someone, somewhere, has to first earn it. Liberty is the power required to find out the truth and then to avoid the powers that hide the truth, so as to exploit the innocent, and this should be understood by every Honest, Productive Person alive on this planet sooner, rather than too late. The truth is that the criminals have taken over the power of government and the power of economic production through a very complex network of fraud involving the production and use of legal money. The criminals own everyone now, and those few who are not yet owned will soon be owned, by the criminals, or the criminals will make the last few who are liberated join in the criminal enterprise (refer to the outline offered above). If you use money, dollars in particular, you are exploiting or exploited, and that is an accurate statement of fact in almost all cases involving the use of the products of money produced by the producers of dollars. If you cannot know that fact, you will be exploited. If you know that fact and you accept it as being good enough, then you must be calculating relative exploitation: you can exploit others well enough, or you can avoid being exploited well enough, instead of seeking an alternative. You are either liberated or you accept servitude and domination as a way of life. There is no fence. Here is the official score board: Everyone (except a very few) are losers In that game there are very few true winners, as everyone else is projected to lose. Where are you on that scale? Where will your children be on that scale? Liberty is not handed to you by the people who stole your power, and use your power to enslave you through fraudulent legal money systems and networks. There is at least one way out of that downward spiral of willful exploitation and human misery and you can know that one way too. If you know one way out it stands to reason that you can know two ways out, and that reasonable and accurate perception of the truth can follow a logical pattern as such: 1. Monopoly is synonymous with Obedience, there is no choice, all choices are illusory in monopoly, by definition, if it is, it is, if it is not, then there is competition. 2. Competition can be one competitor offering a way out, or two, or three, anything but no way out; like finding someone on the phone, after waiting for hours pushing buttons according to an automated laundry list, to have that someone tell you lies, and make you mad, and waste your time, and you hang up and call the competition, and get a person on the phone who answers your questions with accurate information, helping you find a way out of your present jam. Logic can be helpful - use it or perish: fools. There is at least one way out, find it, see it, produce it, maintain it, and earn liberty, and having earned liberty, you can then produce enough power (since your power is no longer being stolen and used against you) to offer liberty to some innocent person, child, infant, exploited teen, whatever. Not on our dimes, please. So, the skeptics say, because they have already made their choices, made their beds, sleeping with the Legal Criminals, being exploited, and being exploiters, that there is no way out, there are no other choices, it is a rat race, and the one who reaches the bottom first wins, shut the fuck up idiot. I won't. And I can show anyone a way out, and it is plain, simple, and reasonable. It is accurate, and it is understandable for all but the infirm, or the retarded, or the weak and exploitable innocent people lacking the power to know accurate facts. But who will listen? If one person listens, then there is one person who adds to the number of people who realize that there is a way out. Two people are not enough people to constitute a power that can, easily, earn Liberty, and give Liberty, in the face of all the people who are now caught in the deceptive network of fraud and legalized violent crime. Here is the plain truth: "It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning." Henry Ford The plan can be to all gather as one on schedule in inventing, producing, and maintaining competitive legal money. On a day in the future we stop using the legal fraud money and we start using our own choices of a number of competitive monies as we take over the power to choose. We no longer accept legal monopoly money. We no longer accept a single monolithic power forced upon us by way of fraud and aggressive, criminal, violence, not by people with badges, and not by people without badges. We do this by July 4th, 2012. You can claim that there is no other way. There is no way out. For you that will remain true, on your chosen path. Good luck. Before I move to the two items, that I have yet to read, consider doing a Google Search for The Dollar Hegemony - know your enemy. Here are the two items on the list of things that interest me today (and can interest you too): Competitors dare to compete At home too If you will excuse me - I have yet to read the links. Comments may follow. I read the first link first and I took out a quote to use in the effort to convey accurate meaning. I can only do my part in conveying accurate meaning. I can't do your part. There is no denying China has an absolutely massive bad debt crisis fermenting. Every one of its banks is gagging on bad loans made to every one of China’s regional governments. Trillions of Yuan worth of loans which will not be repaid, on property and land valued at hugely inflated but now defaulting prices. But if China can become a rival and rising reserve currency at the centre of a new and growing collection of trading partners then China can and will bury the debts in a a mass unmarked grave somewhere in its hinterland. The concept of a Monopoly Legal Money System must be understood in a comprehensive way, or the perception of what it is will be prone to error. The Dollar Hegemony is only as much of a monopoly as it has the power to crush, eliminate, or make less powerful, all the competitors. If you think that China, and Russia, and U.S.A., and even Europe, are competitors in the Legal Monopoly Money System, then you have a myopic, or single minded, or incomplete, understanding. Those "Nations" have people in them. Those people are competitors, but they are all playing the same Monopoly Legal Money System Business. If you are going to understand what is at stake here, you have to step out of that box and create a true competitor like this: I. Legal Money Monopoly Competitors (Debt) A. The Dollar Hegemony B. China, Russia, Iran, India C. Japan D. Brazil E. North Korea II. Competitive Money (anything other than Debt) A. Islamic Finance B. Gold, Silver, Oil, or commodities as money C. Labor Money D. Energy (Physical power like food, water, oil, electricity, sunlight, gravity, etc.) Money E. Encrypted digital promises to pay as money (Credit Cards for example) Ask yourself, please, to define the meaning of debt. If you can do that much, you can earn something on the road to Liberty, or where ever you plan on going. Moving on to the second link. Again linking the second link The truth that no one wants to acknowledge is the standard of living for every person in Europe, the United States and Japan will decline. To those who are reading the second link: please consider a word to the wise, from me, concerning that viewpoint. Those people are trapped in their own self-fulfilling cycle of deception because they fail to understand a simple fact. Read through anything that appears to be confusing and get from that link what you can as an overall impression. If the overall impression is that there is trouble with a solution, then the message can be as simple as that; there is trouble, but there is a solution. The thing misunderstood by those people, in that group of people who can be called Gold Bugs, is the misunderstanding concerning actual people in power who cause the bad things to happen, on purpose, so that their own "standard of living" increases, at the expense of everyone else. All that is needed to prove that fact, and no longer misunderstand that fact, is to follow the money to the source of it. Those whose standards of living does increase, in fact, can then be known, and from that group there can be further discoveries concerning who knew what, when did they know it, and what did they do, and why did they do it, and how much of their actions were willfully done to cause all the trouble, on purpose, for their own profit? The thing being misunderstood is the thing where those who misunderstand are thinking that all this bad stuff happens by accident. They say: "Those guys are stupid", as they point to people whose standards of living just happen to be rising while almost every one else has a standard of living that is falling, and as many people, millions of people, just so happen to be starving, or are being tortured, or are being murdered and piled onto piles of rotting flesh. They says that "they are stupid", and they say that "they are making mistakes" and they say such things with straight faces, seriously, as if what they are saying is true. From that false perception they step deeper into the mire - unfortunately. Get from those complicated items of news what you can, and I often get competitive solutions to problems, anything but a resolve to accept blind obedience. Our leaders have done the exact opposite of what needed to be done to address this debt crisis. See how that works? Whose leaders are "our" leaders? Criminals who steal and call their criminal acts with names like Quantitative Easing and Austerity Measures are not my leaders - those are criminals with badges - Legal Criminals. They are not making mistakes, not the ones whose Standards of Living are going up, so long as they continue to be effective criminals, while they continue to target and exploit their victims - legally. The link offers great detail in the measure of crimes, not mistakes. Get what you can out of the information - please. I try to treat "left leaning" information with the same measure of skepticism, or critical, competitive, interpretation. Look, please, no one knows the absolute truth, but the truth is that some of us can see more accurately than other people can, and that is the nature of competition, to find the best, the most accurate viewpoint, and keep on looking. Life is a process, not a static thing with a price tag. Money is currency, why stop at looking for the best, why settle for what is only best for a very few people? Who told you to stop looking for something better, and why did you obey that order? In a true free market excess profits will draw more competitors and profits will fall due to competition. Here, again, is where these Gold Bugs end up constructing their "theory" on quick sand, and the building self destructs, in time. Why is money off the table of free market competition - ever? Why is money denominated in dollars? Gold bugs offer half of the solution. The good half of the solution is to invent, produce, and maintain competitive legal money. The bad part is that their solution is a Legal Gold Monopoly Money System. Why? The answer has to do with the need to gain control (power) over the supply, so as to make the supply scarce, and in so doing those that have it can charge more to those who don't have it since it is scarce. It is made scarce on purpose. Why? So as to allow those that have it to charge more to those who don't have it. If the solution is legal competition, then the solution isn't a legal gold monopoly. Get it? In proper order: A. Legal Fraud Money (The Dollar Hegemony today, and possibly a Chinese monopoly tomorrow) B. Gold Monopoly enforced in the U.S.A only (Gold Bugs here in America) C. No enforced legal money monopoly at the National Level at least (possibly enforced at the State level) D. Never, ever, anywhere, any enforced, single, money supply - anywhere on Earth. When you come to understand that there is no difference between crime and an enforced legal money monopoly (in principle) then you can understand how that scale works above. From A crime is worse, to D where crime is absent. If you can come to realize that fact, then let me know - please. I may be wrong about it, and you can school me on where I went wrong. The ruling elite can’t figure out why the peasants are getting restless. See the error, the duplicity, the contradiction? Gold bugs share a desire to gain control of power and then make power scarce, so they have that in common with the Legal Criminals - hence the duplicity. It seems to me. There is a reluctance to expose the full measure of crime perpetrated by specific people. It takes one to know one, so to speak. The majority of humans are inherently honest and if raised by good parents will do the right thing most of the time. When society allows psychopaths and evil men to attain high status in government and business through chosen ignorance, lack of vigilance, casting aside the rule of law, or admiration for wealth attained by any means, then wealth disparity reaches extreme levels. I get that part. I don't get this part: What has happened over the last three decades is not particular to the United States. It is a flaw in all humanity. There are those, including the Gold Bugs, who choose to target, and exploit, the innocent, and once that is done, how does one rationalize that decision? Do you fail to know the answer? To rationalize the decision to become one of the criminals is to blame the victims, and this is not a flaw in all humanity, this a personal flaw, an individual flaw, and a choice made, in time, and in places, by real people, in real reality. Fess up, or, go ahead and blame the innocent victims. Go ahead and look at an innocent child, and blame that child for your decision to willfully join in on the criminal enterprise. Go ahead. Choose that path. Blame the innocent, and keep on blaming them, maybe they will be inspired to join in too, by you, by your choices. Give them an example. A path to follow. One look at this chart and you begin to understand the War on Terror cover story. Here is where I can call a big foul on two fronts. A. Look into Energy Non-Crisis by Lindsay Williams B. Look into Islamic Finance People who have made their beds inside the Oil/Military/Dollar Banking System sing the same tune. Oil is King. The Dollar is Queen. The Military makes sure of it. Those stuck in that routine may not sing all the same melodies, they may specialize in one phrase, and repeat it, as a chorus, over and over again. Oil is on the way out because competitive supplies of power, particularly Electricity made from Power sent here from the Sun, but not only that one power, are lower costs, and higher benefits, compared to Oil. Oil is on the way out, the writing is on the wall, it may take 200 years to phase out oil, it may happen much sooner. That is the Oil Front, and those who have invested heavily in Oil know it, and they will get out before that bubble bursts, but they have a vested interest in making sure that many other people are left holding that empty bag. They can't win big, unless a lot of people lose big, and that, again, is the name of that game. On the other front, and the reason for damnation of Muslim, Islam, and people known as Rag Heads, every one of them being blamed for 911, constantly, without pause, is an obvious reason to a reasonable person, at least one. People connected to Islam are people who are potentially, or currently, connected to Islamic Finance; where interest is interestingly absent. The ideas behind Islamic Finance include an ancient notion that the lender shares responsibility, and accountability, concerning the risks involved in the transfer of purchasing power from the lender to the borrower and back again, as the borrower transfers purchasing power back to the lender over time. A competitive concept if ever there was one, and if the competition is Monopoly Power, then, of course, the competition has to be crushed, made powerless, destroyed, eliminated, and removed, without mercy, without any moral conscience, or any impediment whatsoever slowing down the rush to reach the goal. Let no one, or no thing, impede the rush to reach the goal - ever. Look, please, with clear understanding. If the flow of oil stopped would there be more or less advantage in converting to Solar Panels on top of your own home, to sell electricity to other people, and run your own home, and run a new electric car you now have in your driveway, or less? You are now suppose to say: How am I going to get the money to buy all those Solar Panels and an Electric Car if the Rag Heads cause my Oil supply to get scarce on me? At the same time the Oil supply becomes scarce the dollar supply will be scarce to you. Why? Get it, yet? Who is in charge of the supply of Oil? Who is in charge of the supply of Dollar? Where did all those Dollars go to when The Federal Reserve increased the number of Dollars by double in 2008? Did you get any of that money? No, all you will get is the cost of it. Why is this hard to understand, at all? All that money is being spent on making sure that the Legal Money Power stays in Power even if it has to move to China, which it is moving to China, and even if it has to involve what will become known as World War III, as World War III is now in progress, and as World War III can escalate BECAUSE there is enough money being thrown into it. How the HELL do you think all those weapons are produced, and all those soldiers are fed, and all those tax payers are made to keep working, and paying, and working, and paying? It is not an accident, and there are purchases being made, and those purchases are purchased with dollars - for now. Later there will be a new name on the same old game. Out with The Dollar Hegemony, and in with whatever is next. I don't have the new name handed to me on a silver platter, that information is given out, or purchased, or earned, on a need to know basis. Do you need to know? Will you sell all your dollar denominated assets at just the right time and buy all the right things with the new money at the right time, on schedule, because you need to know? And, of course, you are going to let everyone else know too, right?
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| Posted: Thu Jan 12th, 2012 11:33 am |
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Joe Kelley Administrator
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Today is 01/12/2012 Liberty Day happens, nothing wrong with that, unless you depend upon crime to exist. The eastern world it is explodin', violence flarin', bullets loadin', you're old enough to kill but not for votin', you don't believe in war, what's that gun you're totin', and even the Jordan river has bodies floatin', but you tell me over and over and over again my friend, ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction. Don't you understand, what I'm trying to say? Can't you see the fears that I'm feeling today? If the button is pushed, there's no running away, There'll be no one to save with the world in a grave, take a look around you, boy, it's bound to scare you, boy, and you tell me over and over and over again my friend, ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction. Yeah, my blood's so mad, feels like coagulatin', I'm sittin' here, just contemplatin', I can't twist the truth, it knows no regulation, handful of Senators don't pass legislation, and marches alone can't bring integration, when human respect is disintegratin', this whole crazy world is just too frustratin', and you tell me over and over and over again my friend, ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction. Think of all the hate there is in Red China Then take a look around to Selma, Alabama! Ah, you may leave here, for four days in space, but when you return, it's the same old place, the poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace, you can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace, hate your next-door-neighbour, but don't forget to say grace, and you tell me over and over and over and over again my friend, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction. no no you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction. Too many words to read, I know, I know, we are all so busy working harder and harder to pay off that debt. Or, as the case may be, collecting it. You and what army. Work harder, and harder, and harder, to give blood, as you turn to stone, or work harder, and harder, and harder to collect blood from stones. Wish in one hand, shit in the other, which one fills up first? The game is rigged, and you are not on the winning side. You are one of the dupes, and if you are not one of the dupes, you have a few secrets, trade secrets, like where your power is flowing as The Dollar Hegemony crumble and then new regime emerges - getting out of dollar assets before it is too late, not wanting to be left holding that empty bag. Don't worry, I'm not interested in knowing those secrets. Most people are paying off personal debt, so as to collect the collective debt, for those few who run that legal crime business. Most are working harder, and harder, and harder, so as to pay a personal debt, which is collected by people who use that power to collect a collective debt, and if you don't understand how that works, perhaps you can get a clue, offered by someone in our not to distant past. Here: Not so common Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one: for when we suffer, or are exposed to the same miseries BY A GOVERNMENT, which we might expect in a country WITHOUT GOVERNMENT, our calamity is heightened by reflecting that we furnish the means by which we suffer. Consuming your life so as to pay someone else for the privileged of life, so that someone else can use that power to collect from every sucker in the game that still plays the game, on the wrong end of the stick. The parasite city is running out of hosts. This Day is a potential Day of Liberty and so I offer two scenarios of thought as "what if" scenarios. For your consideration: 1. What if the Honest Productive People didn't lose the power of Liberty in 1788, what if Liberty instead of Despotism (Legal Crime) prevailed at that point in time? 2. What if the Honest Productive People regain the power of Liberty in 2012, what if Liberty instead of Despotism (Legal Crime) prevails on or before July 4th 2012? In order to understand the answer to the number 1 scenario there has to be an accurate accounting done by the person doing the understanding concerning the balance of power between Liberty and Legal Crime at that time, in our not too distant history. I will make this very short, even though a full accounting is anything but very short. To be as specific and as brief as possible I will simply declare a provable fact in the nature of that struggle between Liberty and Despotism (Legal Crime), if the criminals win, anything, they win control over their targeted victims. In 1788, for example, the criminals targeted any productive human being, seeking control over them, and they won, they gained that desired control, in short, the criminals made slavery legal. You can claim otherwise, but the criminals wrote down their laws, where they make slavery legal, so they confess those crimes, with ink, on paper, all as legal as any other law obeyed by any human being who ever lived or is living, or will live. Liberty lost, and the criminals won, when The Constitution was enforced by the criminals who used that enabling document to control their victims. That is the brief, short, and the down dirty accounting, but these are already too many words for those who are now controlled, who have to work too hard just to make ends meet, so that their own, earned, power can then be siphoned off to enable more of the same control over more of the same victims, by more of the same criminals hiding behind a very thin veil of legal legitimacy. The two part question here is "what if" that didn't happen then, in 1788, and "what if" the victims refuse to be victims anymore now, or soon? The brief, but accurate, account of the past is yours now, to have, to hold, and to reject at your continued peril, if that is your choice. If you can, for a brief span of time, entertain the idea that the brief account is true, then come along with me and imagine what could have been, since then, before moving onto what can be, instead of continuing the ponzi, pyramid, confidence, scheme, of Legal Crime. Knowing the nature of legal crime can thereby help in the understanding of what would have been in a case where legal crime was no longer enforced, or enforceable, since Liberty prevails in that case. What won't happen, in Liberty, is the steady flow of power from those who are Honest and Productive to those who are Dishonest and Destructive, as that power weakens the Honest and Productive, and as that power strengthens the Dishonest and Destructive, to a point at which the Honest and Productive become measurably powerless, and the Dishonest and Destructive become all powerful. Clueless? What is a case where a victim of crime is so powerless as to be incapable of even knowing that the victim is a victim? What would that look like; what would that scenario look like, if such a state of affairs existed in reality? A victim may, for example, send their own children to the criminals so as to have their own children return home and destroy everything in sight, or worse, to have their own children become criminal enforcers who collect more children, from your home, and from your neighbors home, to become criminal enforcers, collecting more children. What happens in one generation, in that case where the criminals have become all powerful? Look around. How many people do you know are people who send their children off to aggressive wars for the profit of a very few, at the expense of everyone, as these aggressive wars for profit now threaten the existence of all life on earth. Don't look around. Work instead. Work harder, look around less, if you are peeking. Send your children into the network of legal crime and risk that generation failing to know better, and failing to resist the powerful force that is immorality, and crime, and even legalized crime. What if, I say, and you scoff? What handy excuses leaps into your conscious mind, from whatever deep and dark abyss such things fester, as there can be no entertaining of such folly? Here is where the tables turn, and the past is set aside, as lessons learned, or as folly defining itself, in real time; we, if you are willing, move onto "what if" number two. In order to get even the least bit of control over the accurate answer concerning "what if" Liberty wins against Legal Crime in our future, near or far, it is a requirement to know what is happening now. To that end I offer a few reports concerning things happening now. State of the Criminal State Address But here is the second part of the equation that adds up to definite criminality. What if What if the legal criminals knew that their victims here in this land had finally had enough, and what if we, here, invented, and produced, and maintained our own schedule of pulling that plug that is the connection between The Honest Productive People here, and those Legal Criminals in Wall Street, or Washington, or on vacation in whichever paradise they own? Or control You are ready with excuses, of course you are, since there can be none of that superfluous "what if" stuff, other than: what if I run out of money to pay my debts. Of course Of course A horse is a horse Of course Brink of destrution? I am not the one. I am not the one, and only one, causing the bad news, so try, try, try, to resist the urge to shoot the messenger, and when I get back up after being shot several times, as the messenger shooters grow tired, weary, and no longer able to shoot, and shoot, and shoot, the messenger, I can speak. I am the one who knows a way out, a simple way out, an easy way out, and it isn't rocket science. It is basic common sense. Not too tough. I'm not the one claiming that there is no way out, and I'm not the one who is fixing the information to fit the hypothesis, to prove something by altering the facts, omitting facts. I'm not the one explaining how rain happens, according to my thesis, just so long as I disregard the existence of clouds. Doom and Gloom is Fear Mongering, a control tool, a stick, a weapon, and in the hands of a criminal, what do you think will be the net result? Clueless? Here is a clue Pay There is no other choice. No way out. And you think it's me, don't you, come on, be honest, you think it is me. I'm the one. Admit it. Well, I've got news for you. It is not me. The Legal Criminals confess, and they are in your fucking faces confessing. You don't believe me, I know, I know, so read their own official confessions, and then continue to not know. Send your children off to be revenuers too. Pay the personal debt, so as to finance the collection of the collective debt. It is a rat race, and guess who is winning. Guess what happens at the finish line, racing to the bottom. Confessions of Legal Crime Inc. Section 4. Pay, don't even think about not paying. Obey, pay, obey, it is a need to know basis. You don't need to know. Knowing is against the law, don't you know. Don't believe me, ask the authorities. They know, and they let you know they know, if you can still read, before that falls off from disuse too. Atrophy. And to close out: I am most certainly not the only one #10) Ron Paul wants to criminally investigate the crooks in Washington
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| Posted: Fri Jan 13th, 2012 11:45 am |
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Today is Friday 13 2012 Liberty Day is for almost everyone. Guess who? Can anyone, with a straight face, and in all seriousness, as if human survival depended upon it, or more importantly if your own continued comfort and satisfaction depended upon it, believe that the people in power are honest, and therefore you can believe what they say, and you can even believe, again with all that seriousness that you can muster, as if someone were going to cut off your television or internet or air conditioning, or food supply, or water supply, or air supply, seriously, believe that those people in power are reported everything they owe to those other people in power who get them elected to high public office in good ole' U.S.A. Inc. (LLC)? Suppose some of that information is true, for example, that most of the General Military Personnel, GI Joe, and now GI Jane, are actually digging deep (they don't get paid much, and they have huge medical bills after returning home from Policing the World) and sending Ron Paul money. Suppose that much is true. Picture that, if you can, in all seriousness; as a working hypothesis: trying to figure out the nature of the power struggle before us. Now suppose something less believable, in all seriousness, that there are also some people, people who make their living profiting big time on the continued flow of bullets, missiles, bombs, and medical supplies, etc. used up in wars, here and there, and practically everywhere on this Earth thing. Got that contrast going in your head? A. GI Joe and GI Jane facing a tour of duty being injured (tortured), or being killed (murdered), or having to injure other people, including innocent people, babies, women, teenagers, etc. (torturing them for someone else's profit), or killing other people, including innocent people (murdering them "on accident" of course): FACING THAT IMPENDING REALITY, in the future, or the present, or the past, and if the past, then facing what happens after all that injury (torture), and all that killing (murder), for someone else's profit? B. Some else, who profits, not just making ends meet, I'm talking about profit, I mean, really, not jokingly, but really, seriously, profiting. There you have a contrast before you. Group A sends money to someone for some reason. Group B sends money to someone for some reason. Do the math.
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| Posted: Sat Jan 14th, 2012 09:34 am |
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Joe Kelley Administrator
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Today is 01-14-2012 Wow, that is well into the 21st Century. Liberty Day is on the calender, make it by July 4th 2012 - why not? What do you have to lose? I run a very low budget On-line Presidential Campaign. I ran for office this way last Election Cycle, and now I am running for office again. last Cycle I announced as a possible Vice President a Military Soldier named Karen Kwiatkowski, for good reason, and that Military Person is still on the short list, but there is another person on that list now. Please know Cynthia McKinny, by way of listening to the words that she has to offer to us, from a perspective earned at her own cost, earned the hard way, by working for a living, and not by the criminal way, despite the fact that she has spent a tour of duty deep into U.S.A. Inc. (LLC). Words to the wise I am re-reading the beginning of that article and I stumble again on some of the choices of words, in particular I take issue with the concept of ownership between The President and the Victims. To say that The President is "ours" is to miss the important point. The President isn't mine; therefore The President isn't ours when I am included into the group to be known as us. Putting those finer details, of important points, aside, for now, I want to convey some specific words, from the article, so as to reinforce specific meaning concerning our world, the State we are in, and the impending future, if we fail to regain ground back toward Liberty and as far away from Legal Crime as is humanly possible. Quotes: The NTC not only has to contend with a vibrant, well-financed, grassroots-supported resistance, but the various militias of the NTC are now also fighting each other. You may not, at first, realize the significance of those words reporting on those inhuman activities that work at, or very near, the top of the power structure that resembles a Pyramid. You may not have a working understanding of how the Legal Crime Power System works, like a pyramid, and therefore you are, to put it mildly, in the dark. I am often given the label of "conspiracy theorist" and I am often given words that are attributed to me, but words that I never say, words that are false, as if someone else has the power to speak for me, with authority, and I'm supposed to say that there is one person, on the top of the Pyramid, and that one person owns everyone else on the planet, lording over everyone else, controlling everyone else, and then there are 2 people slightly less powerful than that one person, and then below those two there are 4 people slightly less powerful, and then there are 8, then 16, on and on, until reaching the bottom of the Pyramid Power Struggle Network, where those at the bottom have relatively no power compared to the one at the top, and those at the bottom can be counted up to a very large number of people, sharing whatever is at the bottom, where most of the people dwell on Earth. I wrote that, I said that, but to attribute that to me without the obvious additional text, and without the obvious context, is to attribute to me stupidity, and stupefaction, beyond reason. There isn't only one Pyramid of power all alone, without competitors, without battles fought, and without conflict, and in that context of those parts of those meetings of diverse Powers working, the POINT is missed. Returning to the words offered by a reporter on the front lines: he NTC not only has to contend with a vibrant, well-financed, grassroots-supported resistance, but the various militias of the NTC are now also fighting each other. Rather than assume that I am a kook, and rather than move on to dwell at the bottom any longer, consider the brilliance of what I have learned, the hard way, by way of active work at the problem, trial and error, decades of work, piecing the puzzle together, one small detail at a time, and arriving a the whole picture, to a degree at which I can understand most of what I can see now, compared to the beginning of the work load when most of everything I saw confused me, befuddle me, and contributed to a State of Stupefaction. Consider the clear, accurate, and measurable, provable, understanding that the Pyramid Power Struggle Network is no more when the victims are disconnected from it, since those remaining connected to that one, or any one, of those Pyramid Power Struggle Networks, will eat each other for lack of Productive Capacity. Their source of power IS the victims. Know that much, please. Moving on with the words of Cynthia McKinney: In other words, those who create the chaos have a plan and in the midst of chaos, they usually are the ones who will win. Those who wrote the plan of this chaos were affiliated with the Project for a New American Century–read A Clean Break if you already haven’t. General Wesley Clark told us of the plan to invade and destroy the governments of seven countries in five years: Iraq, Syria Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Iran. “These people took control of the policy in the United States,” Clark continues. He concludes, “This country was taken over by a group of people with a policy coup: Wolfowitz, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and . . . collaborators from the Project for a New American Century: they wanted us to destabilize the Middle East.” Richard Perle, Bill Kristol publicize these plans and “could hardly wait to finish Iraq so they could go into Syria,” Clark goes on. “The root of the problem is the strategy of the United States in this region. Why are Americans dying in this region? That is the issue,” he finishes. That is one chunk of text. Those at the top of A Pyramid Power Struggle Network can be found, since they leave paper trails, and they leave behind living witnesses, some that are victims, some that blow the whistle. What you miss, if you miss the POINT, is that they are not always the same people, but they have a commonality that is unmistakable, they are Legal Criminals. They use the power of law to commit crimes. That is the POINT. Get the POINT, or fail to do so, and your future will either be disconnection from the whole dirty business, or continued involvement in it, to either be taken to the cleaners by other people, in it, or for you to take advantage of lesser power victims, including those being tortured, by the millions, and those being mass murdered by the millions. You don't want to know this, I know, it is tough stuff, but think for just a moment, and explain one of the Patented Absurdities that fester in the brains of those who are stolen into the Pyramid Power Struggle Networks - please consider: A. Jobs are Scarce B. People are starving to death, dying of exposure, by the millions, for lack of power C. Food, clothing, and materials sit in warehouses, kept "off the market", even if the food rots, so as to make food, clothing, and materials scarce, and then the price goes up, and then the food, clothing, and materials are allowed to flow again. How much power is available when a million people will do anything to stay alive, anything, anything, anything, to get some food for their children, or themselves, and keep on living, anything, a million people, ready, willing, and able to do anything for some food: how much power is that, ready to be set to work? How can jobs be scarce? How can jobs be scarce while anyone, anywhere, has not eaten for a week? There is a measurable demand for someone to do productive work, obviously, measurably, factually, really, understandably, rationally, morally, logically, and knowingly: there is a demand for someone to pick up a shovel and start working. Why don't those millions of people pick up shovels and beat anyone blocking their path to the food senseless? Why don't those millions of people pick up shovels and start growing food? There is a lack of power, but it isn't Jobs, there are plenty of Jobs, so long as one person, anywhere, is starving to death, there is work to do, someone who will do anything, or nearly anything, to get some food, a clear, obvious, measurable, demand for food - at least. Water, how about water, how about anywhere, anyplace, where there is a demand for clean, healthy, life sustaining, water? No jobs? That is a Patented Absurdity. What is obviously, measurably, missing, is knowledge. Knowledge is scarce, and scarce beyond measure, when many people are both unemployed and starving at the same time on the same planet where anything can be transported from one place on Earth to the other side of the Planet in less than the time it takes a person to starve to death. You may not be grasping the full meaning of this, and there are ways to move to a full understanding. Consider your dearest loved one being somewhere starving, and know then that you have work to do, you have a job to do, and that is the POINT. If you think that there are people taking care of such things, going around finding starving people, and feeding them, helping them, and doing good things, then sure that is a nice thought, but by God, what the Hell is in their way? How about, for example, the Red Cross? Can you read? Item A, part of a two part System Item B, the second part of the two part System Go to where that report reports on The Red Cross (the parts of the Red Cross that "get's in the way", in a big way). Here W. B. Thompson, Red Cross Donor, Believes Party Misrepresented. New York, Feb. 2 (1918). William B. Thompson, who was in Petrograd from July until November last, has made a personal contribution of $1,000,000 to the Bolsheviki for the purpose of spreading their doctrine in Germany and Austria. Some people have taken on the work of naming names while following the money through history, piecing the puzzle together. What is afoot now, and not by accident, may not yet curdle your blood, causing you to bolt up ridged in bed, from a deep sleep, overwhelmed by a clear and present danger, shocking you into a present awareness of immediate clarity in perception, as you can hear the torture victims beside you screaming, knowing that your dearest loved one's are next in line on the table, and then you are next. Why not? Why not now, why put it off until it there is no way to avoid it? Like it or not, it is afoot, and it is coming to a Theater Near YOU How small is the planet Earth? Moving onto other sources: Why does it not make perfect sense? This is completely amazing. At the same time that the U.S. is warning Iran, the U.S. is doing everything in its power to prevent anyone from buying oil from Iran. It's a damn financial block of the strait by the U.S, that is really pushing Iran into a corner. The idea driving the power to deceive and destroy, by any of those who are on the top of that power structure, is to cause World War III to escalate. World War III has already started, for some time now, and the idea is to deceive and destroy as much as is inhumanly possible, and then be in a position of power to pick up the pieces. It is called The Business Cycle. If you do not understand it, you won't make sense of what is happening, and you will be victim to it, and you will be supporting it, as your power to defend against it is used to make it so. Not an accident That is a record of how well the plan is moving towards the desired goal. It is a Patented Absurdity to "believe" that those who are profiting from it are working toward ending it, fixing it, repairing it, to the interest, and benefit, of the victims. A. Those people running the show say we are broke while they drive off on vacation to one of their many mansions around the Globe, and they are doing their best to fix this problem. B. Those people running the show, who say we are broke, while they drive off on vacation to one of their many mansions around the Globe, are too stupid to fix the problem. Blame me if it makes you feel better? Update "Well, what if some guy's in a comma, and...uh...he's going to die and he never took out insurance. What should happen?" Chomsky is a Left Gate Keeper, and here is the second instance of that choice he makes to side with falsehood instead of choosing to adhere to principle. The first instance involves Chomsky dismissing the subject of 911 as an inside job perpetrated by insiders, as a false flag, so as to bring about enough support for another war. Note too that Ron Paul is a Right Gate Keeper, siding with Chomsky on the 911 issue, if only as a case of omission, if not an overt falsification of the facts. As to this present instance of falsification of the facts by Chomsky, it is unlikely, since Chomsky is a very intelligent person, having one of the most extensive concept of language of any human being alive, and his comments appear to be based upon an obvious misunderstanding of principle. I'm not suggesting that a Noam Chomsky for president would be worse, in any way, than a Ron Paul as president, both would be completely opposite the Legal Criminal default person, the endless parade of criminals hired to commit crimes with the power taken and abused by that office since, well, the first example of Washington, with at least that incident that became known as Shays's Rebellion. What I am saying is that Noam Chomsky resorts to falsification of the facts by basing his comments on his misunderstanding of Ron Paul's well communicated principled positions. In effect what Noam Chomsky does is to create a false Ron Paul, according to Noam Chomsky's own invention of what Ron Paul says, and then, suddenly, that false creation of Ron Paul is, according to Noam Chomsky, guilty of all the bad things that Noam Chomsky has invented about Ron Paul In this case, if I am not mistaken, the concept of a Democratic Federated Republican form of government empowers the Federal employees, or elected officers if you prefer that term, to accomplish a few, enumerated tasks, and to do no more than that, and if The People want more from their governments they have their State governments to hire, or elect, to accomplish those additional goals. If Noam Chomsky does not understand that, then I'll eat my hat. He must be choosing to lie, to distort, to falsify, and to demonize Ron Paul for some other reason hidden, or, there is something the Noam Chomsky knows that is not known by me concerning Ron Paul. I've watched the debates and each time someone asks Ron Paul about any question concerning what the Federal Government PEOPLE are elected to do, Ron Paul stand firmly on the principled position of LIMITED Government on the Federal Level, and from my understanding of Ron Paul's position he, and I, both know that one State within a Democratic Federated Republican form of government that begins to promise every conceivable "benefit" that The People want will be the least powerful State in the Union as all the Honest Productive People who are taxed to pay for all those "benefits" walk to a less Despotic State. Again, that is not to say that Noam Chomsky's ideal government set-up would be any different than Ron Pauls ideal government set-up, but one of the two is in a position to move in the right direction, and the other one isn't. One is doing just talking, and the other one is doing the walking. By "right direction" I do not mean the opposite of the "left direction", instead, I mean to move further away from legal crime and further toward Liberty, which is right, but only right from a moral viewpoint whereby the definition of moral is based upon the concept that life is good, life is worth living, and life, any life, is worth preserving if possible. The other direction is easy to know, since it is merely deceit and aggressive violence, or willful employment of power toward the goal of injuring innocent people for profit - or just for fun. If Noam Chomsky is right about Ron Paul, and I'm wrong, then that fact is not well communicated, not competitively communicated, not scientifically communicated, not explained with language or any other medium sufficient to arrive at a reasonable conclusion. I would ask of both Ron Paul and Noam Chomsky to describe their vision of ideal money, and from that beginning I can find out which one is resorting to lies, or which one is merely ignorant. I can ask anyone the same question to arrive at the same goal. What is idea money? Give it a try. Make my day, and if you can't be serous about the answer, then is there anything serious in existence to you?
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| Posted: Sun Jan 15th, 2012 07:58 am |
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Today is 01-15-2012 171 Days until Liberty Day
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17th, 2012 12:33 pm |
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Rather than post a separate forum topic on the subject of moving this Liberty Day Challenge to The Daily Paul Liberty Forum. I will mirror my work on that forum within this Topic on this forum. The following text will be published (cut and pasted) onto a new Forum Topic within The Daily Paul Liberty Forum. Hi, I am not new to forums, and I will play nice, but the things I publish on forums are routinely censored, and therefore I routinely back up my work on my own forum, so as to keep the record straight on exactly what is being censored. This Liberty Day Challenge 2012 is a simple idea along the lines of helping further the cause of Liberty, and since Liberty is the same cause championed by Ron Paul, it logically follows that this is a good place to combine such forces. Before explaining what exactly is the Liberty Day Challenge 2012 I see an opportunity to lend support to Ron Paul by way of communicating my own experiences – briefly. Very briefly I ran for congress in 1996. In the context of my experiences involving Ron Paul I can say with confidence that his example was part of my inspiration to run for Congress in 1996. Without Ron Paul's example in congress that thing called congress is almost a total loss, and worse, it is legalized crime. That is literally written in Common Sense. I can quote the relevant words if challenged. Previous to my own bid for congress I was active in learning about Liberty, and communicating the things I have learned concerning the cause of Liberty, and my first contact with Ron Paul was through message boards on the internet in the 1980s. At that time I had been gaining a reputation as a “conspiracy theorist” and it was startling to me to read one of the messages on the message board authored by this person named Ron Paul. Ron Paul was saying much of the things I was saying, and I can confirm that Ron Paul is still saying the same things, no flip, no flop, same messages which were and are examples, or evidences, of someone who supports the cause of Liberty. Liberty for all: not just a few gaining “Liberty” at the expense of the many. It was startling at that time since Ron Paul, as it turned out, was, and is, a member of congress. That was absurd to me at that time: 1980s. Since those early days on my road to Liberty, which is merely life for anyone who does not become a criminal, with or without the sanctions offered by criminals running government, since those early days I joined, or in some way tried to connect to: The John Birch Society, The Libertarian Party, United We Stand (Ross Perot), Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership, the Mises Institute, The National Rifle Association, Lew Rockwell, The Liberty Project, Prison Planet (Alex Jones), and The Real News Network. I have starting petitions, delivered petitions, and ran myself into bad heath working to support a family. Now I have this Liberty Day Challenge 2012 idea, and coincidentally or not, there is a similar effort being championed by Ron Paul, if I understand his intentions. Currently there is much power flowing to Ron Paul, call it political capital, or whatever works for you. I see life as a power struggle, and for whatever reason anyone connects to Ron Paul, in any way, money, support, whatever, power flows from the individual to Ron Paul, that is happening, measurably, and the measure can be accurate. Some connect and intend to take power from Ron Paul, that is not me. The net result, it seems, is a measurably more powerful Ron Paul - so far. Few people I know can come close to offering a challenge to any of the ideas I have so far understood to be Ron Paul’s ideas on Liberty. I can. But that may or may not get in the way of people, or The People, moving closer to Liberty, and moving further away from what I call Legal Crime. I don't argue, facts speak if people listen. A more powerful Ron Paul moving toward Liberty is a very good thing for anyone currently suffering from the powers that destroy Liberty - not so good for those criminals running what may have once been a Republic. Onto: The Liberty Day Challenge 2012 I tried to be brief with my introduction, and I will try to be brief with an explanation of The Liberty Day Challenge 2012, much will be missing when messages are pared down to sound bites. One of the things Ron Paul supports, to my understanding at least, is competition in money markets, and that is the basis, or foundation, or principle behind The Liberty Day Challenge 2012. The idea is to begin inventing, constructing, producing, and maintaining competitive legal money and have those competitive legal money ideas, and those competitive legal money products ready by July 4th 2012, to compete with The Federal Reserve Currency Issue, the dollar, which is a Legal Monopoly Money, and is therefore not subject to the forces supplied by people who compete. The Liberty Day Challenge 2012 idea, is an idea that understands and intends to address the power of numbers. It will take a powerful number of people making competitive choices to overpower the number of people choosing the monopoly power. That does need to be understood - fully. Absent is the force of competition that forces quality up, and costs down, as is the case if any market even remotely resembles a Free Market. A Free Market is defined by the fact that there are choices, and therefore people choose higher quality over lower quality, and people choose lower cost over higher cost, in a Free Market, and that is what defines a Free Market: choices. An enforced monopoly, enforced by criminals with badges, or enforced by criminals without badges, the same thing is defined, in real time, in a monopoly, legal or otherwise: no choices. No choices = no force that forces quality up and cost down. How can you tell if it is a monopoly, with no choices? Quality goes down. Costs go up. Inexplicably? What is the relative quality of the dollar compared to the quality of the dollar in, say, 1860? And it does not make any sense, to me, to compare the dollar to worse fraudulent and despotic monopoly money issues, the idea is to race to the top, not the bottom. What is the relative cost of the dollar today, compared to yesterday? Some people can argue over what is or is not the true measure of cost – I won’t argue. What would be the point? The Liberty Day Challenge 2012 idea is to get competition on the calendar, and make it happen by such and such a date, and the July 4th 2012 day was the July 4th 2011 date that past on by, without a choice in legal money being a choice; and therefore the obvious result: lower quality and higher cost (by accurate measure). What has to happen between today and the day when the force of competition forces the quality of legal money up, and the cost of legal money down, in America? Why wait for someone else to do it? If the question isn’t a vital question, then what is a vital question? If the answer isn’t an accurate answer, the answer isn’t true. Why settle for false, or fraudulent, stuff, when there can be an alternative? That is sufficient, I think, to introduce the Topic, and see what happens. My experience is such that, at least, some people will be inspired to use their brains, instead of merely being conduits for other people. Note: In concert with this Challenge to the Legal Money Monopoly are examples such as The Liberty Dollar, PayPal (at the beginning), A Gold money issue in Utah, Labor Dollars here and there, and in history there were 2 cases of Whiskey used by The People as money, in direct competition with the legal crime money issue in those examples. More competition means more force applied in the effort to bring quality up, and cost down. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Posted once and the screen hung up at a white screen. Backspaced to the complete (saved) post and hit SAVE again, screen hangs up at a white screen again. I can try again tomorrow, and I can test to see if I can comment on an existing post if starting a topic fails again.
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19th, 2012 12:39 pm |
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Second try (actually third try, last time I backspaced and re-saved the forum topic) Cut and pasted before hitting the SAVE button (edited from the original): Hi, I am not new to forums, and I will play nice, but the things I publish on forums are routinely censored, and therefore I routinely back up my work on my own forum, so as to keep the record straight on exactly what is being censored. This Liberty Day Challenge 2012 is a simple idea along the lines of helping further the cause of Liberty, and since Liberty is the same cause championed by Ron Paul, it logically follows that this is a good place to combine such forces. Before explaining what exactly is Liberty Day Challenge 2012 I see an opportunity to lend support to Ron Paul by way of communicating my own experiences – briefly. Very briefly I ran for congress in 1996. In the context of my experiences involving Ron Paul I can say with confidence that his example was part of my inspiration to run for Congress in 1996. Without Ron Paul's example in congress that thing called congress is almost a total loss (for the targeted victims), and worse, it is legalized crime. That concept (crime made legal), in other words, is explained very well in Common Sense. I can quote the relevant words if challenged. Previous to my own bid for congress I was active in learning about Liberty, and communicating the things I have learned concerning the cause of Liberty, and my first contact with Ron Paul was through message boards on the internet in the 1980s. At that time I had been gaining an unwelcome, and inaccurate, or false, reputation as a “conspiracy theorist” and it was startling to me to read one of the messages on the message board authored by this person named Ron Paul. Ron Paul was saying much of the things I was saying, and I can confirm that Ron Paul is still saying the same things, no flip, no flop, same messages which were, and are, examples, or evidences, of someone who supports the cause of Liberty. Liberty for all volunteers: not just a few gaining “Liberty” at the expense of the many, and criminals opt out - that is what they willfully decide to do, when they target and then injure innocent people. It was startling at that time since Ron Paul, as it turned out, was, and is, a member of congress. That was absurd to me at that time: 1980s. Since those early days on my road to Liberty, which is merely life for anyone who does not become a criminal, with or without the sanctions offered by criminals running government, since those early days I joined, or in some way tried to connect to: The John Birch Society, The Libertarian Party, United We Stand (Ross Perot), Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership, the Mises Institute, The National Rifle Association, Lew Rockwell, The Liberty Project, Prison Planet (Alex Jones), and The Real News Network. I have started petitions, delivered petitions, and ran myself into bad heath working to support a family. I even tried to join the armed march on Washington; stillborn by Linda Thomson during the Waco Massacre. That was my knee jerk reaction, as far as that went. Now I have this Liberty Day Challenge 2012 idea, and coincidentally or not, there is a similar effort being championed by Ron Paul, if I understand his intentions. If Ron Paul can legalize monetary competition, then that is the fix that will work, along side of an end to The Income Tax Fraud, along side an end to Aggressive Wars for Profit finance by the many victims. Mainly: cutting the link between the Legal Criminals and their victims, The Federal Reserve Legalized Counterfeiting Monopoly Extortion Racket, is the fix. Dissacociate with the whole dirty business of legalized torture, legalized mass murder, and worse, by, at least, cutting the flow of surplus wealth to it, through the Legal Money Monopoly Extortion Racket incorrectly labeled The Federal Reserve System. Cut that link and those criminals have to kill each other off, or get honest jobs where they too have to supply high quality stuff, at lower costs. Currently there is much power flowing to Ron Paul, call it political capital, or whatever works for you. I see life as a power struggle, and for whatever reason anyone connects to Ron Paul, in any way, money, support, whatever, power flows from the individual to Ron Paul, that is happening, measurably, and the measure can be accurate. Not all connections are generous or of an investment nature. Some people connect to Ron Paul and intend to take power from Ron Paul, that is not me. The net result, it seems, is a measurably more powerful Ron Paul - so far - adding all the individual connections up and finding a total transfer of power. You can see things your way. That is my way: a power struggle. Few people I know can come close to offering a challenge to any of the ideas I have so far understood to be Ron Paul’s ideas on Liberty. I can, but that may or may not be a problem here, on this forum. My capacity to point out weaknesses in the Ron Paul message may or may not get in the way of people, or The People (summing up each person's individual power), moving closer to Liberty, and moving further away from what I call Legal Crime. I don't argue, facts speak if people listen. I am confident that Ron Paul is the type that will recognize where his message is weak, and where he can improve it, if possible. I don't think that Ron Paul is the type who resorts to shooting the messenger. A more powerful Ron Paul moving toward Liberty is a very good thing for anyone currently suffering from the powers that destroy Liberty - not so good for those criminals running what may have once been a Republic. Onto: The Liberty Day Challenge 2012 (lending support to Liberty, and therefore lending support for Ron Paul) I tried to be brief with my introduction, and I will try to be brief with an explanation of The Liberty Day Challenge 2012, much will be missing when messages are pared down to sound bites. One of the things Ron Paul supports, to my understanding at least, is competition in money markets, and that is the basis, or foundation, or principle behind The Liberty Day Challenge 2012. The idea is to begin inventing, constructing, producing, and maintaining competitive legal money and have those competitive legal money ideas, and those competitive legal money products ready by July 4th 2012, to compete with The Federal Reserve Currency Issue, the dollar, which is a Legal Monopoly Money, and is therefore not subject to the forces supplied by people who compete, and who compete by offering competitive supplies of higher quality and lower cost. The Liberty Day Challenge 2012 idea, is an idea that understands and intends to address the power of numbers. It will take a powerful number of people making competitive choices to overpower the number of people choosing the monopoly power. That does need to be understood - fully. That needs to be understood well enough by enough people to afford Ron Paul the power he will need to overcome the power he faces during the election, when he is elected, and during his Presidency, if Liberty is to stand any chance at all. Absent in our Money Monopoly Extortion Racket Nation State (formerly a Republic) is the force of competition that forces quality up, and costs down. When that force is in power, in a social network, then there is a working Free Market. The result is higher quality and lower cost. A Free Market is defined by the fact that there are choices, and therefore people choose higher quality over lower quality, and people choose lower cost over higher cost, in a Free Market, and that is what defines a Free Market: choices. That is what is missing on the level that counts: the money. Follow the fraudulent money to the source, and what is found? Why keep that connection connected? Why not choose something better, and less costly? Is that not simple? An enforced monopoly, enforced by criminals with badges, or enforced by criminals without badges, the same thing is defined, in real time, in a monopoly, legal or otherwise: no choices. Also known as blind obedience. No choices = no force that forces quality up and cost down. How can you tell if it is a monopoly? Is there any other choice? Quality goes down. Costs go up. Inexplicably? Perhaps quality is going down because it is a monopoly, without choices? How about making our own choices? Why wait? What is the relative quality of the dollar compared to the quality of the dollar in, say, 1860? And it does not make any sense, to me, to compare the dollar to worse fraudulent and despotic monopoly money issues, the Euro, or whatever, the higher quality idea is to race to the top, to our mutual benefit, not a race the bottom stomping over the tortured and murdered bodies of the victims. What is the relative cost of the dollar today, compared to yesterday? Some people can argue over what is or is not the true measure of cost – I won’t argue. What would be the point? The Liberty Day Challenge 2012 idea is to get competition on the calendar, and make it happen by such and such a date, and the July 4th 2012 day was the July 4th 2011 date that past on by, without a choice in legal money being a legal choice; and therefore the obvious result: lower quality and higher cost (by accurate measure). What has to happen between today and the day when the force of competition forces the quality of legal money up, and the cost of legal money down, in America? Why wait for someone else to do it? If the question isn’t a vital question, then what is a vital question? If the answer isn’t an accurate answer, the answer isn’t true. Why settle for false, or fraudulent, stuff, when there can be an alternative, or two, or three? That is sufficient, I think, to introduce the Topic, and see what happens. My experience is such that, at least, some people will be inspired to use their brains, instead of merely being conduits for other people. Note: In concert with this Challenge to the Legal Money Monopoly are examples such as The Liberty Dollar, PayPal (at the beginning), A Gold backed money issue in Utah, Labor Dollars here and there, and in history there were 2 cases of Whiskey used by The People as money, in direct competition with the legal crime money issue in those examples. There was also a stamp script example invented and produced in Worgle Germany before the German State people in power stamped that out. More competition means more force applied in the effort to bring quality up, and cost down. Please don't shoot the messenger. What is the point? If this is removed from this site, for whatever reason stated, or unstated, just removed, I will know the truth, the censors are busy, they cannot allow a competitive viewpoint to exist - on to the memory hole. I don't argue. If there is a competitive viewpoint, let it compete. Please. SAVED
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19th, 2012 12:50 pm |
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| Posted: Fri Jan 20th, 2012 11:19 am |
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I have successfully published at The Daily Paul, for almost a half hour so far, and in order to get past the Spam Filters, I tried the following method: Post a topic titled: Trouble Publishing Topic (or something similar) And the text of the Topic was: Test That worked, I had a published Topic on The Daily Paul after 2 days of failure; where my Topic hung up at a white screen for over an hour. Then I changed the title to the Topic to Liberty Day Challenge 2012 and I cut and pasted the first few paragraphs, or line, of text from the Giant Wall of Text that constitutes my, very brief, post. Meanwhile someone replies to my Trouble Posting Topic, explaining the Spam Filter Routine (probably dealing with more than the normal sound bite of text). Then I cut and pasted the rest of my message successfully. When I am censored from forums, which is a documented fact, I can therefore be in a position to know what it is like for guys like Ron Paul who is also censored on public (access) forums (private investments that are public access) as was the case with the recent Republican "Debate" where the private media outlet censors Ron Paul on the subject of Federally Funded Abortions. The crowd, in that case, enforced a better sense of right and wrong, and so...reluctantly, the private media operators had an obligation to ask Dr. Paul his response to that issue. In case of Forums, in my case, there is no back up ready to help me get my messages out, my vital questions, and my competitive answers, the private operators merely sever the link, often without any measure of defense afforded to me. I am sent to the corn field. I can be sympathetic. I run my own forum, right here.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 20th, 2012 11:24 am |
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Joe Kelley Administrator
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It is already starting, and so I am going to re-publish the initial accusation here, and my response to that initial accusation:Well now that was strange and unnecessary,I appears that you came here with the intentions of causing trouble? Or are you a self defeatist? With respect,just curious? My response: What exactly am I being accused of doing? In my experience there will be no trial, no presumption of innocence, the mere fact that I am accused of doing some nebulous wrong is sufficient to release the dogs of war.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 20th, 2012 11:50 am |
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Update: While I published the Post that is now all chopped up, there was someone editing my post at that time, those few minutes. That person reports that my first days attempts to publish were instances of the Spam Filter catching my Topic, and so he republished it. He says it went to the inactive page. I never saw that topic appear, and I checked during the day yesterday, more than once. In the effort to police a forum there are many adaptations, in this case the person policing his forum had me effectively censored from day one, willfully or not, my censorship may have been just a cause of being caught in the routine of dealing with Spam, and now what happens will happen; as my cut up post will spend some time on the first page. There may be one person, or two, who does read the message concerning the force of competition working to force quality up, in legal money, and cost down, in legal money. Waiting around for someone else to give The People (victims) the go ahead to begin choosing legal money of higher quality, and lower cost, is one choice. The competitive choice is to set a date, and on that date, with fair warning to all, a sufficient number of people will no longer choose the criminal legal money, and that number of people may or may not all choose one better option. Some may choose gold backed money. Some may choose silver backed money. Some may choose oil backed money. Some may choose Solar Panel backed money. Some may choose one of many new Start Up businesses offering competitive legal money. Waiting for the criminals in power to say that it is now legal to have legal money competition is like waiting for hell to freeze over; not a competitive choice by any measure I can see.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 20th, 2012 01:00 pm |
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There is something similar to discussion, not appearing to be contributing to a sudden and complete exile from the forum, so I am cutting and pasting that exchange out of discipline, or a desire to create a routine, just in case: Replied: Please read his post,Bigmike is a nice guy and made the effort to try and help you with your post as he does with everyone here. If you take the time to read it and comprehend what he is saying you were not censored.The spam filter here catches certain keywords.This cannot be helped.But over time as a member it "learns" that your links can be trusted. He was trying to help and you accused him off censorship without basis.Read it again. My response: Who is not reading? How about an accurate measure of that accusation? I tried posting two days ago. The screen went white. I tried posting one day ago. The screen went white for an hour. I kept an eye on the forum, and my Topic never appeared, as far as I saw. I figured there was a program working that had something to do with all the text, too much text, in our sound bite world. I made a test post today, and during that test post, I changed the Topic title from "Problems Posting" to the Topic Title that has to do with Liberty. I then cut and pasted some of the text, to see if it was too much text. In that brief time period the messages I published had messages I didn't write placed into them. I read those messages, and a Spam Filter makes sense. I run my own forum. What did I not read, according to you? Please be specific as to my wrongdoing. Please. Who accused anyone of censorship? Who accused someone of censorship? Show me, please. Reply: If so then the link may be why the spam filter stopped your whole posts. It has happened to me many times in the past. The spam filter here is not perfect and catches legitimate postings by accident all the time. I am sure if you respectfully go to the "mod box" and ask for a review of your post and link and they are very nice about it and will release it so that it will post. Now if it was not in the best interest of the movement here then that is another story,Remember just like your forum it is private property. I also have a forum and respect this. My response: Communication is not Dictatorship What gives you the power to dictate to me what my words mean to me? Show me where, according to you, my words imply what you say my words imply. If my words imply what you say that my words imply, then I can admit such error, and I can retract that errant publication on my part. Otherwise, as far as I am aware, I did not publish words that implied censorship. Communication involves a writer and a reader, and often there is error involved in the process. Reply: (using fences since my quote button removes paragraph spaces ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ You started your post with a defensive front implying that you expected the possibility of being censored by this site. "I am not new to forums, and I will play nice, but the things I publish on forums are routinely censored, and therefore I routinely back up my work on my own forum, so as to keep the record straight on exactly what is being censored." This was before you even understood the site or gave it a chance.Having trouble posting? ask about it before you take a defensive stance against censorship. Then your self defeatist statement "For how long will I be welcome here, I don't know." leads readers to think you could possibly do something you expect to get banned for. This would only happen if you caused trouble. In both statements you have prejudged the site and the community here. Welcome to one of the most free speaking liberty forums on the net. To get removed from here would take a whole lot of effort at having absolutely no common sense. — Why is everyone racing each other to a stop light? Why is everyone holding their bladder across 40 miles of empty desolate desert just to stop and pee in my driveway? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ My response: Facts, error, omission, or what, according to whom? I did not imply that I expect censorship, why would I resort to implication? I experience censorship regularly. That is a fact. I also expect that the Sun will come up one more time. How is it that my words communicate to you that I am not giving this site a chance? My censorship has to do with individual people making an individual decision to censor me. A site is stored text on a hard drive hooked up to a network. Why do you see things the way you see them? I don't see things that way. How does your viewpoint become mine? A byproduct of having experienced censorship is the idea that I can defend against it. I may be wrong, but there is a similar action going on right here, as Spam attacks the forum producer, or operator, and he defends against it. Not all things that look like Spam turn out to be Spam, but a defense against Spam was the natural reaction to being Spammed. What is the natural reaction to being censored? When you see my statement of fact as "self defeatist", I am again going to point out that you have your way of seeing things, and I have my way of seeing things, and there isn't much in common, so, naturally, I ask: How is it that your way of seeing things somehow becomes THE way of seeing things - somehow - if that is what you are telling me. Are you telling me that my statements of fact are "self defeatist", in fact? There was a time, not too long ago, where discussion was a means by which two competitive viewpoints could be shared so as to pick out all the bad stuff, and keep all the good stuff, according to whomever has an interest in such things. What are we doing now? As to the actual reasons given for my banishment from other forums, I have records of that, and I've been banished for less than this, that we are doing, right here, which was labeled as me causing a flame war. This here, is more of a flame war, compared to what I've been banished for in the past. I do not expect that this that we are doing here will be blamed on me, by the person who has the power to banish me, but I've been wrong before. The reason I don't think that I will be banished for this here, this which someone could say is a case of me causing a flame war, the reason I don't thing that will happen is such that I have not yet even begun to challenge anyone on their cherished beliefs in things that are patented absurdities. Once a chord is struck, then the wheels begin to turn, and then banishment, if history repeats, is the inevitable result. You can go on with your version of the way things go, and you can claim that I will write something that causes trouble, and that I will write something that defeats myself, but what do you call that, if what I write isn't aggressive, isn't false, isn't inaccurate, isn't unkind, isn't attacking any person personally, or isn't anything other than a competitive viewpoint? Are you suggesting that you have a script from which I can read, and then repeat, so as to avoid my own self defeated eventual end here? Seriously? You are going to provide a list of things that I can't say, because such things that said my be will cause trouble, and I can therefore avoid such trouble, since only you have that moral capacity to know the difference between what I can say that will cause trouble, and defeat myself, and unlike you, I have no such capacity? You wrote: "In both statements you have prejudged the site and the community here." Here is where I have developed the defensive capacity to ask for evidence proving the case. Which statements made by me constitute such wrong doing? Where are these words that have prejudged this site and this community here? If the accusation is true, then it follows that there is proof of such a thing having happened. You wrote: "Welcome to one of the most free speaking liberty forums on the net. To get removed from here would take a whole lot of effort at having absolutely no common sense." You, apparently, count yourself up as one of the most free speaking people, and if I am censored, eventually, it follows, according to you, that it will be because I deserve it. I get that, it is routine. What exactly was the cause of my censorship? How can you know? What exactly constitutes, in your mind, a case of me prejudging this site and the community here; where are those two statements in question? What exactly are you claiming? What was published by me, in fact, as to cause your viewpoint to be your viewpoint? I'd like to know, so as to move on. I am trying to link a page I found on this site, where someone has linked all the Polls where Ron Paul is winning. I am trying to mirror that list of Polls on my own Forum. But I keep having to come back here to deal with these accusations of my wrongdoing, so as to defend myself.
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