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 Posted: Thu Dec 22nd, 2011 01:50 pm
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Joe Kelley

 

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12-22-2011

Liberty Day is to those who want it: liberating.

How about a show down?

It won't happen without two opponents who are willing to compete, against a worthy opponent.

So far there is no such show down. I have found a few examples of what a show down once was, but is no more, unless two worthy opponents compete.

Out of two competitive monies, or ideas, or perceptions, or things of value, there will be one that is understood to be higher in quality than the other, and one other thing.

The better competitor will be lower in cost.

If you can't admit that, then what are you?

Stupid?

I can't say. I have yet to meet a worthy opponent.

Suppose, for the sake of argument, or even better, for the sake of life, and for the sake of improvement through discussion, where two worthy opposing perspectives meet so as to find which part of which perspective is of less quality and of higher cost, and which part of which perspective is of higher quality and of lower cost, and supposing this, the idea is such that one money meets another money and from that meeting all the low qualities are exposed and set aside, and all the high costs are exposed and set aside, and out from that meeting there emerges an improved money, and that money is ready to meet the next worthy opponent.

Can you see, here, a function occurring, and a quality occurring, and a process occurring, by which old, value-less, costly, and inferior things are left behind as new,  greater value, lower cost, and superior things thrive?

Here is where the perspective that is brought to you is an example of that process. Is the perspective you bring, use, offer, produce, process, enjoy, employ, a competitive one, or not?

If it is not, then it is not a part of the process. If it is not, it is dictatorial, monopolistic, uncompetitive, unworthy, and destructive by nature, because that is what it does, it fails to meet the challenge of competition, and therefore it fails to engage in the vital, necessary, process by which faults and costs are exposed, to be challenged, to be set aside, and to allow for improvement once improvement becomes obvious, measurable, and superior.

This is not a case of opinion, or subjectivity, or individual preference for one thing, unless the perceiver admits one thing. The perceiver admits that the one thing is a preference for lower quality and higher cost - by definition.

Myopic vision.

Well, there is an ulterior motive, a hidden objective, and that is easy to understand, but the person with myopic vision won't confess, not to a potential victim, and not to a potential liberator of the victim, you see, of course you see, the ulterior motive involves the willful intent to pass on costs and to pass on lower quality to the victims, that is why the myopic vision is embraced, the low cost alternatives are not allowed to exist, for if they did, if the low cost alternatives were allowed to exist, then those low cost alternatives would exist for everyone, including the victims.

I'm setting the stage for a fight of the century, a fight that always happens to be a fight of the century, and the score cards are made obvious to those with an interest in making the score cards obvious, but the actual reality of which fighter is wining, if you have an interest in knowing, may not be as readily perceivable as the "for public consumption" score cards such as this:

Debt Clock

How about a historical example of an actual battle between competitive visions of reality, and you can throw your own hat into the ring, so as to see which of the competitors offer the higher quality and lower cost viewpoint?

I found this gem when searching for competitors, of which there are few, very, very, few.

Dsicussion Example

What, you may ask, is this Joe guy going on about now.

Blind obedience to falsehood is the exact opposite, almost, of competition, life, and liberty; because blind obedience to falsehood doesn't work for the victims, nor the criminals who enforce it. Life ends when competition ends, and that is because therein, within, that process, is the power that forces adaptation, to bring forth an example of a thing that is more powerful than all that would defeat it.

Life goes on, when the process works.

When the process, of competition, is snuffed out, life follows that same path, for failure to compete, to force quality higher, and to force cost lower, to fail to use the power available in the work of making more power available, as myopic, monopolistic, dictatorial, single minded, simple minded, stagnation, sets in, and consumes itself.

Life must meet all challenges, not shy away, not hide, not cower, not invent false images to cover the real powers that threaten life, or failing, life ends, for lack of that competitive power, the power that meets all opposition head-on, and finds the way to overcome.

Read the link, see what you think, and note how discussion intends to work, as a tool, used by life forms, to compare notes, to find faults, where faults can be found, and to find a higher quality, more accurate, more adaptive, more useful, more profitable, more powerful process, viewpoint, event, going on, and on, to the next challenge, better armed, as a result of the improvement, going from lower quality, higher cost, to higher quality, and lower cost, and doing that again, and again, and again, reaching for what?

Life.

What is the alternative?

Don't ask, don't tell?

What, Joe, happened to your mantra about money, over, and over, and over again? Why this diversion onto Love and Marriage?

The process works from the fundamental cellular level of life, on through human reproduction, and all that humans have learned to adapt to, since that adaptation, including the process of finding the highest quality, and lowest cost, MEDIUM OF EXCHANGE.

Has life evolved from mold to human beings so as to get to a point at which the process by which life evolves is then discarded for a preference for low quality and high cost?

A. Adapt and life on.
B. Crawl back under rocks and hope that God recreates paradise on Earth?

What, prey tell, is the motive behind avoidance of adaptive competition?

I now present to you a link to a source of information that has inspired in me, a great interest, and a desire, and a need to write to you, to offer to you a show trial, a meeting of the minds, a clash of perspectives, and a head-on, no holds barred, show down.

Of Interest to Gold Bugs

In simple terms, as simple as I can get, the concept of this competition involves two diametric opposites as such:

A. Combine power in the process of using power to make more power.
B. Combine power in the process of using power to consume power.

But the reader is probably lost, and that is because the reader has followed to myopic path too long, accepting the fashionable practice of accepting less for more, which is the same thing as saying that the concept followed is one of being a victim, which is being a criminal, which is being a victim, depending upon who as stolen more from whom at any given moment.

A. Liberty
B. Death

And that is not simple enough, or that is too complicated, or who cares, I just want to crawl back under my rock and hope that God produces paradise, for me, for my wise choices in life.

So, there you have a modern day Gold Bug, someone who preaches the value of Gold as Money, but, and this is the point at which the men are separated from dark matter, is there value in actually proving the value of gold as money in competition with higher quality and lower cost competitors to gold as money?

The point here is to point out that it is competition that is higher in value, and lower in cost, to the alternative, which is the enforced, or subsidized, or monopolized, gold money scheme. Use gold or be punished.

A. Use gold or be punished
B. Competition to see which is best, which is highest in quality, and lowest in cost

A. Know
B. Be told which is, or is not, without any proof, without any competitive alternatives even allowed to contend for favor, use, employment, understanding, be ordered to accept, be punished for not accepting, the one, and only, thing.

If the choice is to know, then logically, reasonably, thoughtfully, and carefully, even morally, the choice is to entertain the possibility that an alternative exists.

There is, always, pressure to know sooner, rather than too late, which is called expedience, and with all things, that truth, that known requirement to expedite the process, to expatiate, to bring about in time, can be half true, can be turned against, and can be used to deceive, a more sinister purpose.

Which is it?

These choices have occurred, are occurring, and so long as life clings to life, these choices will continue to occur.

So now, you have much to digest, and from the corner where Gold Bugs are fighting their fight, using deception, or failing to even entertain options, and propping up fake opponents, so as to hide the real competitors from view, concepts of value, and concepts of cost, and a choice is presented to you, from the Gold Bugs, as such:

A. Gold as legal money
B. Legal Crime, or fraud, or extortion, as the one and only alternative

Hidden from view is a competitive alternative, as the Gold Bugs cover up the competitive alternative with false garb, false fronts, false flags, false, and willfully misleading misinformation intending to measure the true competitor incorrectly, inaccurately, to cover up the real competitor with a false advertisement, false color, false filter, false spin, false propaganda, false, and misleading information, false currency, false and fraudulent misrepresentation of the actual competitor.

The actual competitor is competition. Real competition. Higher quality competition, and lower cost competition, hidden from view, so as to appear as if there is no alternative.

A. No alternative
B. Alternatives that are, measurably, higher in quality, and measurably lower in cost.

Who pays the cost? Check the fine print.

In Love and Marriage, a discussion, there is a speaker who produces a higher quality currency, news items, comments, viewpoints, data, information, and the speakers name is Stephen Pearl Andrews.

If ever an Honest Productive American existed, Stephen Pearl Andrews existed. He left bread crumbs on the way to Liberty.

Of interest to Gold Bugs, for example, is that road away from serfdom.

Here it is:

Andrews offers competitive data

Consider the advice, of not getting caught up in the need to judge the winner of the current fight between Gold as money and Labor Dollars as money, please, consider the understanding that the fight has to be fought, between the winner of any fight, and the next challenger, for failing to fight the good fight, is the end of competition, and even more, it is the end of life, and that is the competitive message brought to you. And I can quote:

A field which has no fence upon one of it's sides is not fenced in, no mater how high and strong its fences may be on the other sides.
What that means, in effect, is that life will succeed even when the power to destroy life is very powerful, and you may not see that fact, in those words, in that context. Truth with set you free.

Free from what?

Free from lies, and fraud, and the costs borne by those who are not yet free.

If you do not read the links provided, you can't blame me for your state of ignorance, and if you resort to deception, you pick up that sword, and you will perish, miserably, by that willful act you choose.

Seek higher quality, and lower cost, it won't arrive on a silver platter, and if riches flow to you, in abundance, as you represent one of the few, consider where those riches are produced, and who pays the cost to produce them - or ignore, for lack of care, lack of interest, or lack of time and energy, those sources of power as those sources of power flow to you.