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 Posted: Tue Jan 17th, 2012 12:33 pm
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Joe Kelley

 

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Rather than post a separate forum topic on the subject of moving this Liberty Day Challenge to The Daily Paul Liberty Forum.

I will mirror my work on that forum within this Topic on this forum.

The following text will be published (cut and pasted) onto a new Forum Topic within The Daily Paul Liberty Forum.

Hi,

I am not new to forums, and I will play nice, but the things I publish on forums are routinely censored, and therefore I routinely back up my work on my own forum, so as to keep the record straight on exactly what is being censored.

This Liberty Day Challenge 2012 is a simple idea along the lines of helping further the cause of Liberty, and since Liberty is the same cause championed by Ron Paul, it logically follows that this is a good place to combine such forces.

Before explaining what exactly is the Liberty Day Challenge 2012 I see an opportunity to lend support to Ron Paul by way of communicating my own experiences – briefly.

Very briefly

I ran for congress in 1996.

In the context of my experiences involving Ron Paul I can say with confidence that his example was part of my inspiration to run for Congress in 1996. Without Ron Paul's example in congress that thing called congress is almost a total loss, and worse, it is legalized crime. That is literally written in Common Sense. I can quote the relevant words if challenged.

Previous to my own bid for congress I was active in learning about Liberty, and communicating the things I have learned concerning the cause of Liberty, and my first contact with Ron Paul was through message boards on the internet in the 1980s. At that time I had been gaining a reputation as a “conspiracy theorist” and it was startling to me to read one of the messages on the message board authored by this person named Ron Paul. Ron Paul was saying much of the things I was saying, and I can confirm that Ron Paul is still saying the same things, no flip, no flop, same messages which were and are examples, or evidences, of someone who supports the cause of Liberty.

Liberty for all: not just a few gaining “Liberty” at the expense of the many.

It was startling at that time since Ron Paul, as it turned out, was, and is, a member of congress.

That was absurd to me at that time: 1980s.

Since those early days on my road to Liberty, which is merely life for anyone who does not become a criminal, with or without the sanctions offered by criminals running government, since those early days I joined, or in some way tried to connect to: The John Birch Society, The Libertarian Party, United We Stand (Ross Perot), Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership, the Mises Institute, The National Rifle Association,  Lew Rockwell, The Liberty Project, Prison Planet (Alex Jones), and The Real News Network.

I have starting petitions, delivered petitions, and ran myself into bad heath working to support a family.

Now I have this Liberty Day Challenge 2012 idea, and coincidentally or not, there is a similar effort being championed by Ron Paul, if I understand his intentions.

Currently there is much power flowing to Ron Paul, call it political capital, or whatever works for you. I see life as a power struggle, and for whatever reason anyone connects to Ron Paul, in any way, money, support, whatever, power flows from the individual to Ron Paul, that is happening, measurably, and the measure can be accurate. Some connect and intend to take power from Ron Paul, that is not me. The net result, it seems, is a measurably more powerful Ron Paul - so far.

Few people I know can come close to offering a challenge to any of the ideas I have so far understood to be Ron Paul’s ideas on Liberty. I can. But that may or may not get in the way of people, or The People, moving closer to Liberty, and moving further away from what I call Legal Crime. I don't argue, facts speak if people listen.

A more powerful Ron Paul moving toward Liberty is a very good thing for anyone currently suffering from the powers that destroy Liberty - not so good for those criminals running what may have once been a Republic.

Onto: The Liberty Day Challenge 2012

I tried to be brief with my introduction, and I will try to be brief with an explanation of The Liberty Day Challenge 2012, much will be missing when messages are pared down to sound bites.

One of the things Ron Paul supports, to my understanding at least, is competition in money markets, and that is the basis, or foundation, or principle behind The Liberty Day Challenge 2012.

The idea is to begin inventing, constructing, producing, and maintaining competitive legal money and have those competitive legal money ideas, and those competitive legal money products ready by July 4th 2012, to compete with The Federal Reserve Currency Issue, the dollar, which is a Legal Monopoly Money, and is therefore not subject to the forces supplied by people who compete.

The Liberty Day Challenge 2012 idea, is an idea that understands and intends to address the power of numbers. It will take a powerful number of people making competitive choices to overpower the number of people choosing the monopoly power. That does need to be understood - fully.

Absent is the force of competition that forces quality up, and costs down, as is the case if any market even remotely resembles a Free Market.

A Free Market is defined by the fact that there are choices, and therefore people choose higher quality over lower quality, and people choose lower cost over higher cost, in a Free Market, and that is what defines a Free Market: choices.

An enforced monopoly, enforced by criminals with badges, or enforced by criminals without badges, the same thing is defined, in real time, in a monopoly, legal or otherwise: no choices.

No choices = no force that forces quality up and cost down.

How can you tell if it is a monopoly, with no choices?

Quality goes down. Costs go up. Inexplicably?

What is the relative quality of the dollar compared to the quality of the dollar in, say, 1860? And it does not make any sense, to me, to compare the dollar to worse fraudulent and despotic monopoly money issues, the idea is to race to the top, not the bottom.

What is the relative cost of the dollar today, compared to yesterday? Some people can argue over what is or is not the true measure of cost – I won’t argue. What would be the point?

The Liberty Day Challenge 2012 idea is to get competition on the calendar, and make it happen by such and such a date, and the July 4th 2012 day was the July 4th 2011 date that past on by, without a choice in legal money being a choice; and therefore the obvious result: lower quality and higher cost (by accurate measure). 

What has to happen between today and the day when the force of competition forces the quality of legal money up, and the cost of legal money down, in America?

Why wait for someone else to do it?  If the question isn’t a vital question, then what is a vital question?

If the answer isn’t an accurate answer, the answer isn’t true.

Why settle for false, or fraudulent, stuff, when there can be an alternative?

That is sufficient, I think, to introduce the Topic, and see what happens.

My experience is such that, at least, some people will be inspired to use their brains, instead of merely being conduits for other people.

Note: In concert with this Challenge to the Legal Money Monopoly are examples such as The Liberty Dollar, PayPal (at the beginning), A Gold money issue in Utah, Labor Dollars here and there, and in history there were 2 cases of Whiskey used by The People as money, in direct competition with the legal crime money issue in those examples. More competition means more force applied in the effort to bring quality up, and cost down.

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Posted once and the screen hung up at a white screen.

Backspaced to the complete (saved) post and hit SAVE again, screen hangs up at a white screen again. I can try again tomorrow, and I can test to see if I can comment on an existing post if starting a topic fails again.