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 Posted: Fri Nov 11th, 2011 06:05 am
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Liberty Day is each day, if you have the power to make it so.

Along with the bad news there is good news, the news is the same, the way of looking at it can measure it from a more advantageous, better, or more powerful angle.

The bad news currently filling the brains of human beings on Earth include the stories linking Historical events to similar current events as such:

In history there is the example of a dictatorial leader loosing power over the victims as told by the measure of popularity polls. One person named George Bush was almost as unpopular as King John in England just before the Barons forced that Dictator to sign the Magna Carta deal which gave the Dictators victims as much power, if not more power, than King John. King John didn't want to sign the deal, he knew what Trial by Jury meant.

Here is a link to help you with that Historical President:

Trial by Jury

But as all people are slow in making resistance, oppression and usurpation often reached a great height; and, in the case of John, they had become so intolerable as to enlist the nation almost universally against him; and he was reduced to the necessity of complying with any terms the barons saw fit to dictate to him.
When victims turn the tables and become the dictators, sometimes they chop off heads, other times they invent things like Trial by Jury.

The U.S. Constitution took away Trial by Jury here in America, and that was foretold by the person Patrick Henry who also made the famous statement about giving liberty or death.

My claim is "Give me Liberty or Die_______" followed by an appropriate expletive describing whomever is threatening to take liberty away.

A link with the warning about Trial by Jury seems appropriate:

Trial by Jury threatened.

Henry objected to the amount of federal jurisdiction and to the lack of protection for trial by jury: " He did not consider the objections answered in such a manner as gave satisfaction."
Speech less famous


How does your trial by jury stand? In civil cases gone—not sufficiently secured in criminal—this best privilege is gone. But we are told that we need not fear; because those in power, being our representatives, will not abuse the power we put in their hands.
Leading the reader, by the hand, to the current news, with the help of a friend of liberty in our past, look please, then read, and I will end this message shortly.

"If your American chief be a man of ambition and abilities, how easy is it for him to render himself absolute! The army is in his hands, and if he be a man of address, it will be attached to him, and it will be the subject of long mediation with him to seize the first auspicious moment to accomplish his design; and, sir, will the American spirit solely relieve you when this happens?"
Onto another President involving a King wanabe named George Bush, falling in the polls, needing something to boost his power to dictate, and actually have people obey, and what is the President for those events in our recent history?

911

You can watch buildings being imploded by scientific application of controlled demolition, be told that fire made those building collapse, and then you can cherish and defend that outrageous lie, if you want, and I don't.

Suffice to say that a leader falling in popularity is apt to gain popularity when those who are being led are facing a new war, and that is a historical fact, or President, to be understood, or ignored by anyone.

Onto the last link:

World War III act 4

I have yet to read that and I can say that there is good news. In the past the people who I call Honest Productive Americans, and victims, alternatively, are not standing for lies as much as they did in the past. That is good news, and it is welcome to some. To others, to the group of people who I call The Legal Criminals, that is very bad news. The victims stop being victims when they stop believing in the lies told by the Legal Criminals. Give me Liberty or die.
 
I can pretend to be a badass, with give me liberty or die, and then there are people like Patrick Henry who do fight back, and so Patrick Henry offers words that may not "tip his hand", keeping information in secret, in reserve, in case the enemy may be listening?
 

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11-12-2011

Liberty Day can be July of next year.

I'm going to appeal to the concept of common sense concerning the latest rush of information that inspires more abuse of military force as destruction is aimed at a place called Iran.

First look back and see how Iran became what it is today. In order to do that please consider watching the following effort to clue in the masses of people who stand to lose big for failing to know the facts.

When watching this news item consider the concept of comic relief - please:

The History of Oil

For those who do not have the time to watch that very informative and entertaining presentation of accurate history, and for those who have some time to listen to my viewpoint on current events, please know, somehow, that Iran was already attacked in 1953 when a democratically elected, popular, Iranian leader named Mossadegh was removed from office (regime change) and in place of that leader there was instead a torturing, mass murderer, Dictator named The Shah of Iran, who ruled, with an Iron Fist, torture chambers, and legalized murder for some time before the people had had enough, and they revolted, and they were then radicalized, by the trauma of having undergone "regime change".  The victims of "regime change" were polarized to fight back against an imposed dictatorship that was imposed by foreign government agents.

It was the American and British governments who attacked Iran and threw out Mossadegh because Mossadegh took over control of Iranian Oil, and took control away from British Oil Companies. Once the puppet dictator was placed in power the control of Iranian Oil returned to the attackers of Iran.

Once the people of Iran were polarized, radicalized, and empowered to fight back against imposed dictatorship, and once they regained control of their own government, the control over Oil returned to the Iranians, where it is today, and that is the story according to the people involved in that story, not just the story according to the reporters who report on that story.

That is a story that is confessed to be the truth by those people who caused those things to happen, not just the victims claiming that they were victimized in those ways.

Iran was already attacked by American and British Oil Interests, and know this too, Oil backs Legal Money. Gold no longer backs Legal Money. Taxes no longer back Legal Money. Oil backs legal money, but that is going to change too.

Meanwhile, as Oil still backs Legal Money, Iran is again in the cross hairs of those who control Legal Money. For reasons that you will not be told by anyone else, the people who control Legal Money want World War III to happen, if there is no other way for them to preserve their control over Legal Money, and Oil.

They can buy anything with their power over Legal Money and Oil. They can buy mountains of Gold. They can buy nuclear weapons.

Do a search, please, and find out if any Nuclear Weapons known to exist are missing.

Who has the missing Nuclear Weapons?

Now, as I've brought you along on this path of thought, think, use common sense, and know that all the Nuclear Weapons are missing, they are missing the vital justification for them. There is no justification for them. There is no justification for Nuclear Weapons, just as there is no justification for Biological Weapons of Mass Destruction. Use your own brain. The power of law has been stolen quite some time ago, and it has been an aim of those thieves to gain the power to destroy massive numbers of people, so as to keep that power of law from those massive numbers of people.

That may be news to you, and if it is, it may be a good idea, at this time, to validate the accuracy of that news. You can't rely upon any other authority other than your own brain. What do you think the Legal Criminals are going to tell you if you ask them if they are, in reality, no different than any other criminal, excepting the fact that they claim to be an authority over you?


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Today is 11-14-2011

Liberty Day is a process reaching a specific goal.

One goal is to be disconnected from Legal Criminals by July 4th 2012 by inventing, producing, employing, and maintaining a competitive legal money in place of the fraudulent dollar issue.

Another goal is to be disconnected from the harmful effects of arrogant ignorance. To be ignorant is one thing, but to be arrogant about being ignorant is the weapon of mass destruction that leads to all the other weapons of mass destruction as the Legal Criminals invent, produce, employ, and maintain arrogance imposed upon the victims, as the victims remain, and defend, ignorance.

Example:

Arrogant ignorance test 1.

That is a test of your ignorance concerning one thing that has become a measure of common ignorance. How many people are willing to defend their ignorance of fluoride and do so arrogantly, to a point whereby fluoride is still poisoning millions of people?

The answer is: more than one person, but only one counts.

There is a scene in the movie Erin Brockovich where an arrogant and ignorant person drinks some water and the main character in the movie suggests that the water may be poisoned.

Special water

Knowing something, beyond a shadow of doubt, is an individual thing, and it is not the property of someone else.

Dictators assume authority of knowing what other people know.

How does that work out in your mind? I may be able to shed some light. Suppose there are two groups of people, one group is honest and productive and they produce things that help people and they have a common goal to avoid producing things that hurt innocent people, and that group can be called any name such as a government, company, family, church, corporation, guild, coop, commune, or fried chicken - the name is only a name.

Then, another group exists, and that group is only honest as far as communication internal to the group, while they have no such goal of being honest to their victims, since they are not in agreement of the need to avoid harming innocent people, the opposite is true, they, their group, by any name that is attached to them, have the common goal of gaining at the expense of innocent victims.

One group can be called group A.

One group can be called group B.

A person who volunteers to join one group can do so at any time, all that the person needs to do is change the goal from gaining things, producing things, while avoiding doing harm to innocent people to - change that to - willfully gaining at the expense of innocent people.

The person in question may have that moment of "change" sneak up on them as they exist on one group and then suddenly they realize that they have crossed over into the other group as they become fully aware of the injuries that they are causing to innocent people.

That is called a rude awakening, and it isn't pretty.

Example:

Don't drink if you think it might hurt you.

Some things are inevitable.

The common denominator is a connection between group A and group B whereby the victimized group is made to believe in the need to send their power to the criminal group, to "provide the means by which we suffer",  and once that belief is secure the victims will defend that connection with their lives. Too bad huh?


 

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Today is 11-15-2011

Liberty Day can be cashing in and starting a farm.

Pending realities

Product 1 and Product 2, as a way of illustrating what can be done, explains that power in versus power out equation with such things as Home and Business Mortgages (eliminating the interest payments because such transfers of wealth have proven to be counterproductive), Electric cars and Solar Panels, and now it may be as good a time as any to explain how farming works with the illustrations of Product 1 and Product 2.

I ran across a curious invention some time ago and I've lost track of the progress of that invention since it was reported that it was mired down in the black hole of legalized fraud - which is the current legal money monopoly - which is an extortion racket if words have meaning.

That curious invention was then known as Vertical Farming.

Here is one of the first links to that invention I've ran into:

Farming Algae for fuel

The concept can be understood, if you want to understand, with effort on your part to follow the story line as I present it to you.

You are first presented with a choice to keep paying rent, or keep paying mortgage interest on your present home (assuming that you don't already own your own home), and instead of paying rent, and instead of paying mortgage interest on your present home you choose, because you can, an interest free loan, and that choice affords you a monthly increase in the money you have to spend, since your total loan amount is thereby cut in half.  You no longer buy a home for a legal crime banker in addition to buying the home you own.

Next you take out a business loan to start a farm, because you can, and because someone advised you to do that, and which farm do you buy?

What would happen if other people took out loans (with no interest) to build Modular Vertical Farming Units, and therefore all you had to do to start farming is buy one.

You take out a business loan to buy some land, and then you take out another business loan to start farming, and you can choose to farm indoors with these new Modular Vertical Farming Units.

Product 1 is the illustrated interest free mortgage loans that intend to show you just how crooked the Legal Criminals running the Monopoly Money Extortion Racket are, in fact. You can see it, or you can fail to see it, and failure may not be an option in the near future.

When money is destroyed on purpose, because that is how the Legal Criminals do business, there will be no money, and the victims will be scampering to find some form of substitute for that lack of legal money.

That is why farming is the suggestion offered to people who ask: "What can I do to prepare for the impending world wide Economic Crisis/Collapse/Scenario that is currently occurring to various degrees right now?"

Food is a currency. Ask someone in prison, or someone who was in prison, as to the solutions that are invented when money is removed from a society.

Cigarettes can be money. Packages of Top Ramen can be money.

Money is to a social economy as blood is to a human body, or oxygen, or food, or water, so how is it not possible for a person to see this - being human as you are?

What happens when the room you are in becomes filled with smoke, as the oxygen you need is taken away, in that room?

If a Modular Vertical Farming Unit requires X amount of power to make, from nothing there is a cost that is spent, and then there is a Modular Vertical Farming Unit after all the expenses have been spent, and then that Modular Vertical Farming Unit is in your back yard, and you use it properly, over time, there is a total amount of production of food, or motor fuel made from algae, and that total production will exceed the cost of creating the Modular Vertical Farming Unit.

Power in = X
Power out = X + Y

X is the cost of the thing.

Y is the value of the production over time.

Y > X

Simple math?

Who need math when you are alone, homeless, and starving? For lack of the power of knowledge, how many people suffer?





 

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Liberty Day is inevitable.

New Hampshire Poll

"A Bloomberg News New Hampshire poll released Wednesday shows Paul in second place with 17 percent, beating former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and pizza pusher Herman Cain, who scored 11 percent and 7 percent respectively."

Much of that which people pay attention to has to do with a need to know basis scenario. Who needs to know lies, other than the people who invent them?

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Liberty Day is not found in falsehood.

Linking an event connects a person to another person or group of people to another group of people who were not connected until the link was established.

Who is being honest?

Who is being honest and who is fabricating falsehoods. Who benefits from those falsehoods, and who is intended to be victimized by those falsehoods?

We're Not Broke

"Our new film, The Story of Broke, shines a light on the dumb choices our elected so-called leaders are making with our money:"

Who is dumb? Who manages to keep the power flowing from those who create it to those who steal it by way of perpetual fraud?

How deep do the lies go? Are we in deep do do?


If the "We're Not Broke" video causes you to say "Wait a minute", or "Reality Check" then please consider employing a simple, principled, understanding of both the problem and the solution, and I can say, with confidence, and beyond a shadow of doubt, that the dumb people are the ones who produced that video, because it is impossible to cure the problem by making the problem bigger. In other words: When the problem is mistaken to be the solution, each increase in the false solution is an increase in the problem.

If the problem is measurable as a steady flow of power from the honest productive people who create that power flowing to the dishonest destructive people, then the solution to the problem cannot be to increase the flow of power that perpetually flows that way.

The Video appears to be a well done informative report on our present situation here in America. How nice it would be if we all contribute our fair share to create a powerful force that can then be used to help us?

When that powerful force makes torture and mass murder legal, it won't torture us, or mass murder us, so long as we keep paying our fair share.

That is the simple, principled message, without the cartoonish, childish, spin that the video offers to the dumbfounded listeners.

We can just vote to make sure that those people who have made torture and mass murder legal don't torture and mass murder us?

Who are the dumb ones? Voting machines are rigged, and that is a well documented fact.

Before I linked that dumb and wrong headed, misleading, video I linked another link. In that other link there is a clash of viewpoints which appears to be an interview, or it is presented as an interview by one of the viewpoints in that clash of viewpoints.

The right side, the side represented by Ron Paul, is, in my opinion, wrong headed too, in as much as that viewpoint supports banking interest as a means of earning a living, but my viewpoint on that subject is certainly capable of proving itself in a competitive environment that is free from enforced fraud, and free from enforced violence upon the innocent. Ron Paul represents a viewpoint that his viewpoint is also up for a challenge in a competitive environment that is free from willful production of falsehood, and free from the willful abuse of power aimed to injure innocent victims.

What about the other viewpoint that clashes in that first link?

That other viewpoint that clashes in that first link exemplifies the willful employment of lies in the work that is necessary to injure the targeted victims who are intended to be victims of those lies.

Connect the dots, please. I may be wrong, but I think that the people who produce that "We are Not broke" video are also the people who support the viewpoint that clashes with Ron Paul, the viewpoint that is it OK to lie, to cheat, and to steal, so long as what Ron Paul represents can be crushed, snuffed out, killed, and eliminated forever.

When an idea is no longer valid, when a much better idea is invented, what will the supporters of the failing idea resort to, in defense of their idea as that idea is no longer valid?

They will lie to keep it alive. They will grow violent to keep it in force. They will resort to every possible invention, without limit of moral conscience, or logic, or reason, to keep their power in the face of a competitive power.

That idea is simple, and that idea has been know to be invalid, non-productive, destructive, and only useful to a few people at the top of that Pyramid Scheme. That idea is called crime.

When crime is made legal, it is still the same idea, it merely has a new face, and the face is false.

When the idea is to willfully target innocent people, and then those innocent people are injured on purpose, for profit, that is crime - by any other name - legal or not, it is crime.

"Our fair share" are words that mean: "Obey".

If one innocent person does not pay, they are made to pay, there is no other option. There is no competitive idea, there is no choice whatsoever, there is only payment, and that is that idea at the core.

Place a nice, happy, smiling face on that idea, package the idea in bright and attractive clothing, to sell the idea to whom?

The victims may buy into it, so long as they are not yet tortured by it, or so long as their own families are not murdered in mass by it, but it remains to be the one idea.

Obey

There can be no competitive option according to their own spokespersons.

Ask one.

They lie.

See what they do, not what they say they are doing.

What happens if you don't pay?

What do they say, while the do what they are doing to those who don't pay?

"We are helping you, pay your fair share?"

When we are morally broke, we will soon be an extinct species, no longer living.

Too bad for us?

It is not too late.

As for the truth about being broke: money wise. I suggest, strongly, that readers view the following link:

Biggest Game in Town

Here is a transcribed version:

Transcribed



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Victims learn the truth.


All the victims know, when it is their turn on the rack, very soon they learn at that point, while pleading for mercy, that it isn't a mistake.

It isn't a mistake anymore, at that point, clearly known, clearly understood, as the hot metal penetrates and the stench fills the air.

The hired torturer keeps torturing, because someone paid for that, someone hired that, it is not an accident.

So, follow the money, now, because the rack isn't the place, or the time, to check to see who is hiring these guys, with their skills, and their specialties, and their ability, and their power to torture so well. Such good people, at torturing, and mass murdering. Give them a medal, they are really that good.


Returning to competitive governors (not monopoly)

Why resort to censorship unless there is something to hide?







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Liberty Day can be July 5th 2012: the day the victims successfully disconnect the link to the Legal Criminals and therefore no more power flows from the victims to the Legal Criminals on Liberty Day.

On the subject of a growing awareness among the hapless, ready, ignorant, powerless victims, as their power is stolen in the night, and as their power is used to torture and to mass murder in the effort to keep the power flowing from the victims to the Legal Criminals, as that awareness among those victims increases, there will be less blood, less pain, less torture, and few murdered bodies thrown on the huge pile of millions, upon millions, of victims.

Awareness of what is in the works, planned by the Legal Criminals, among the victims, is a transfer of power as that awareness is a measuring reduction in the flow of power flowing out of the minds of the victims as those lies are no longer taking hold, and as those falsehoods are no longer stupefying, making ready, weakening, and rendering the victims powerless. This awareness proves the fact that the power that is stolen is power that is created by the victims.

The people grow stronger because they find, and they realize, and they know the facts by their own force of will, their own demand for honest, accurate, communication, as they refuse to settle for less, refusing to listen to any more lies, and refuse to be misdirected on paths that lead to more torture, more mass murder, and more power lost as the people no longer allow their power to be sucked out of their domain, their brains, their bank accounts, their stores of powerful wealth, as it has traveled to those few who use that power to steal more power.

Awareness, realization, understanding, and conscionable willpower among an informed population is to the Legal Criminals what a stop sign is to a speeding driver heading to a busy intersection.

Awareness commanded by the people IS to those who target and victimize the people what sunlight is to vampires, and what kriptonite is to Super Duper Man.

Think, please, what happens when-ever a victim becomes aware of a way to avoid being a victim.

The criminals have to work harder, as they then must work to render their victims powerless again.

What would have happened, before World War II, for example, had the victims known that their honestly earned power, having been stolen, was then used to finance both the rise of Hitler and the rise of Stalin, so as to cause World War II, as a means of securing The Dollar Hegemony?

The victims would have known better, and the victims would have rejected the invitation to participate in World War II, saving the lives of millions of innocent tortured, and millions of innocent mass murdered people.

Too bad for them.

It is not too late for us.

That brings me to one item of information offered to you for your conscionable judgement. 

SHHHHHHHH

Don't speak of the impending war with China. Mums the word.

A relevant quote:

The bankrupt US cannot hope to compete long term with cash-rich China to be top dog in south Asia.
Who financed Hitler's Germany

Who financed Stalin's Russia

Who?

Who empowered Obama?

THE DOLLAR HEGEMONY

He who controls the one, single, legal money power: controls all the things that can be purchased with money.

When the victims of the grand legal money pyramid scheme grow wise: those who control that power buy world wars, to stupefy, to effectively lobotomize the victims with terror, horror, torture, mayhem, misery, and massive death.

When the victims of the grand legal money pyramid scheme grow wise: those who control that power buy world wars, to stupefy, to effectively lobotomize the victims with terror, horror, torture, mayhem, misery, and massive death. This is not news to some, but this is not news to enough people soon enough in history. Not soon enough to avoid World War I, not soon enough to avoid World War II, and the future is before us, this generation, now. Wake the fuck up.






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Liberty Day is each moment when a living being is allowed to exist.

Who has the power to destroy life, and when that power is used and when life is destroyed, the destroyed life ends. Liberty is the competitive options other than destroying life which are ended by that final solution to someone's problem.

To see this struggle for life from a power perspective is to know a base, or foundation, of understanding; something to return to when confused, something to build upon when all the powers converging upon you appear to be overwhelming.

Do not reach for an outside authority first, by default, in order to gain an advantage over the multitude of powers converging upon you, in your search for a better life, assuming that a better life is your goal - of course - instead look within and find that base from which your life is, each moment, and make that place where you exist solid - knowing - and working for you; a foundation of productive understanding, over time, as each challenge either strengthens a weak, perishable, present foundation, or the challenge evaporates under the intense heat of your working, productive, founding, understanding.

Case in point:

Legal Crime LIcenses for sale - what is the price?

Not knowing from which living being, who, what, when, where, why, and how, an attack upon life has been perpetrated, as that attack injures the victims, is a case of not knowing. This is a situation that can be communicated in words such as the last sentence, or by terms: being blind sided, sneak attack, getting away with murder, perpetual victimization, ongoing organized crime, etc.

Each attack is specific. Each attack is perpetrated by a living being upon a living being, and the result is the destruction of life, on purpose, for reasons that may remain unknown to the past, present, and future victims.

The first attack is a falsification of reality, so as to render the victims powerless in the effort of those victims to avoid becoming victims. If the first attack is successful, each successive attack transfers power from the victims to those who target the victims and each moment from that moment onward the victims grow even weaker, even less able to avoid attack, and the people who target the victims grow ever stronger.

The first attack is an attack on language, to render language powerless as a means of defense among the ready victims, and to make a weapon out of language for the people who target the victims.

Crime can be know to be crime by the people who target the victims while the victims are made to believe the opposite. This is not NEWS.

Up is made to be down, only in the eyes of the victims. The people who target the victims retain the tool of accurate language - they know up from down.

That brings me firmly standing on my foundation built upon a power struggle of life perspective, and so armed I can look at that issue, that subject, that item of seeing our living existence in that link, where a corporation is said to be a person.

Up is said to be down, and the victims agree, because they are powerless to avoid falling into that trap - their lack of power renders them into victimization, and fellow criminals alike.

Instead of maintaining a way through life that avoids becoming either criminal or victim, the lure of some nebulous advantage polarizes the hapless victims onto that path, which is a line forming, and the line of victims are then prodded onward to their eventual sheering, and to their inevitable doom. Along they way, in that line, they will accept their condition, and their fate, and they eat each other along the way, happily, or reluctantly, taking part in the feeding frenzy, stabbing each other in the back, slicing each others throats, happy, or sad cannibals, seeing no other way, no way out, each miserable step of the way, racing to the bottom, peering ahead at an ever fading view of a false paradise, while the fires of living hell burn, and the temperature accelerates into living oblivion.

What about Liberty? What about life? What about the path that avoids all that falsehood which supposedly requires piles of tortured innocent victims to get to, and to seize, and to have, to possess that false paradise?

The people who target the victims hire criminals to injure the victims and then there is a real threat to blame. Those hired criminals faces are then advertised as the poster boys of the new victims as yet to be tortured, and mass murdered, and as yet to be ground up to fuel the march to ultimate destruction. This is not NEWS.

What was ever wrong with any corporation? What was ever wrong with any government?

Both are examples of individual measures of individual power combining to become more power, and power that is greater than the sum of the individual parts.

A corporation is more than one person having limited power alone, finding, combining, and becoming more than the power of each new member added to each other new member, as the total power realized by the combination is practically unlimited.

Can one person, all alone, having no connection to any other person, in any way, travel from a difficult life on a difficult planet to another planet? Having only the power of one person, having to find every calorie of powerful food alone, having to make every heat saving stitch of clothing, and having to build every insulating block of shelter, alone, there isn't enough power withing the command of that one individual to survive, and that life ends in that one life time.

This is as fundamental as living reproduction. It takes more than one to survive for any length of time.

What is a corporation?

What is a government?

They are either voluntary or they are involuntary, and this is English Language, these are words written by one living being, and these words intend to help any of the other living beings.

When a corporation moves from a voluntary association into an involuntary association it becomes criminal as it defines both crime and involuntary association with each new victim targeted, exploited, injured, and consumed.

Power either flows voluntarily among through the connection that is called a corporation or power flows by way of deceit, by way of threats of violence, and by way of direct violence perpetrated by members of the involuntary association upon those who become victims of that involuntary association.

It can be said that an involuntary association is good for the victims, and the function of falsehood is to convince the victims that their injury is welcome, voluntary, desired, and good for them.

A victim of a lie thinks that they volunteer to be a victim.

That is a lie.

The liars know it, but they don't often confess.

A government is just another word for the same thing that happens when people use the word corporation. Either the government is voluntary or it is not voluntary, by action, not words - same as a corporation.

One lie that works to convince the victims into believing that organized crime is good for the victims is the lie that suggests that there is no other choice but to "pay the tax"; failing is not an option, since a bigger, more evil, criminal will take over, and the victims will have to pay even more tax.

You may think I am wrong.

If you do, you are probably lying to yourself, and in that way you are doomed. There is no power on earth that can save you, since you have already become your own worst enemy - and that is not an accident.






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Liberty Day is on the Calender: set for July 4th, or 5th, 2012.

On Liberty Day the idea is for all the Honest Productive People to sever the money monopoly connection between the Legal Criminals and the Honest Productive People who volunteer to sever that connection on their own authority, their own power.

Like this:

“It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.”

See how it is already known by those inside how this revolution can occur? Over night, we go to bed on July 3rd, or July 4th, and we wake up the next day Liberated; having our revolution before tomorrow morning.

Why wait another night?

The revolution requires the power of numbers. Too many people feeding into the extortion racket maintains it, and makes it too powerful; while enough people divorced from it causes it to feed upon itself.

It feeds upon itself anyway, so why stick to it while it consumes us?

Confused?

How about this:

Monetary Freedom

What that means is: to disconnect from monetary slavery.

It really isn't that difficult to understand, but to a people who have been led to believe that torture is "good for the economy", and mass murder is "good for the economy", well, even simple math may be an insurmountable mountain of confusion?





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Liberty Day is too.

Provide the means by which we suffer:

Until you can't afford to pay for so much suffering?

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Liberty Day may be put on hold indefinitely. Whose choice?

Leading into the next item of information is a task that I am reluctant to accomplish; however I've received some welcome help from my dear brother Jack. In the form of a sentence there is a world of meaning I've read in between those lines.

Here is the sentence quoted from Jack:

"I guess the dollar is the best horse in the glue factory."

The world of meaning in between the words of that sentence leads into the next item of information that I've found this morning to offer to those who have been Challenged to join in on the Liberty Day 2012 project, or anyone else who may be teetering on the fence between a willful employment of power toward Liberty day and the alternative which is exactly what you will get if you pay for it by failing to choose wisely while you still have the power to choose wisely.

The Fence is an allusion - by the way.

Repeating:

"I guess the dollar is the best horse in the glue factory."

And now this mornings information:

A line in the sand exists, who can see it?

Among the living there are a few who control the worlds money supplies, and the worlds money supplies can be measured accurately, known well by the people who do the measuring, or the worlds money supplies can be incomplete, or falsified, for some reason.

Suppose we work, for a moment of our time, using our power up, momentarily, in the investment of knowing, better, the world's money supply, and to do so I offer two groups:

A. The voluntary money supplies
B. The involuntary money supplies (The Glue Factory)

If you can find a money supply, tag it, and fit that supply into the right category, and I can offer a few examples.

A. Food, Whiskey, Electricity, Water, and Opium
B. The Euro, Yen, Yuan, Mark, and Dollar

Some money can be in both categories once the producers of the money are taken over by the criminals, and let's be very clear about this fact.

A non-criminal will be a producer of money who then uses money to do anything other than willfully injuring a targeted innocent person or persons who are innocent and targeted for exploitation by the criminal who produces the money.

Don't expect to ask a criminal if the criminal is a criminal, and get an accurate answer.

Ask the producer of the dollar if he is a criminal, for example.

Ask the producer of the Euro if he is a criminal, for another example.

Ask one of the many producers of whiskey if that one example of those many producers are criminals. How many answers do you get, which one's are accurate answers?

This is my way of showing you how to tell the difference between a criminal money producer and a non-criminal money producer, since a criminal money producer will be one that manages to enforce his money upon his targeted victims, and the victims have no other, reasonable, choice but to use the one monopoly money.

Well, Joe, you may say, how can there be two criminal money producers such as the criminals who produce the dollar and the criminals who produce the yuan (Chinese)?

Well, Joe, there is that giant wall of text again, what is anyone supposed to do with that giant wall of text?

How about using your own brain for a moment and begin contemplating what happens in our future when either of three situations occur soon? I'll list those three situations and then begin explaining how those situations are working these days.

A. The dollar becomes powerless as the Legal Criminals running the show here in America continue to destroy the American political economy with their power over our money; while all the value earned by all the honest people in America is used to increase the power of the Chinese political economy (to the extent that the Legal Criminals are still able to enforce their power over the honest productive people in China).

B. The honest productive people in America resist the destruction of their Liberty (which is their ability to use their own power the way they see fit), while the honest productive people in China resist the destruction of their Liberty (which is taking the form of low wage slave labor, moves in their government from a Chinese form into a fascist form, increases in pollution never before known to mankind, which may include never before known human suffering for everyone), and the Legal Criminals in America and China use the power they steal to keep the power flowing to them in both places. 

So, now, you have a new perspective concerning the item of information linked in this latest attempt to rally the troops to work toward disconnecting from the Legal Criminals instead of obeying their every command, such as licking their boots, and groveling, and prostrating, and handing over your loved ones to service their petty desires. They want war, and so, you will be going to war. I'm just letting you know what you are paying for, as you get what you pay for, which is, apparently, what you want too.

Oh, the explanation.

Group A is the honest productive people who happen to live in America and China, and they have many things in common. They are honest enough to earn enough trust to actually free up enough time to actually produce more value, more wealth, higher standards of living, and lower costs of living, since they don't spend every minute of the day plotting to injure each other, having failed to earn the least bit of trust.

Group B is the Legal Criminal group or the group that constitutes The Glue Factory builders and The Glue Factory enforcers, and that is one group that has two obvious headquarters, one in China, and another one in America. What that group is now doing is they are in the process of pulling all the power out of America, everything not nailed down, and if it is nailed down they are acquiring the titles to those things too, and once everything in America is either gutted, taken out, or owned, they will be using China as the new base of enforcing their hidden global money monopoly power.

How will the victims know?

I won't, because I will be dead by that time. The change over from The Dollar Hegemony to the Chinese Hegemony will not be working fully for another few decades, or so, I don't have the official schedule.

When someone in America has to buy Chinese money to get needed things then the change over will be complete.  You may not understand how that works but the Chinese know how that works now, since the change over has not taken place yet, so the shoe is on their foot now. They have to buy American money (Made in America by our home grown Legal Criminals) to get needed things.

That is called: World Reserve Currency Status

The Dollar Hegemony (the people hired to produce and maintain The Dollar, and the people who hire the people to produce and maintain The Dollar) owns everything right now - or will own everything until they are overpowered by some other power.

They own The World Reserve Currency Status.

As soon as enough people target The Dollar Hegemony, known that The Dollar Hegemony is a very bad group of people, well, that is when the very bad people change the sign on the door.

They hire people to be punished, to run The Dollar Hegemony, as all the victims are directed to The Dollar Hegemony looking for the guilty bad people, and the value of all the things that were stolen from the victims, and what they find is an empty bag.

The Dollar Hegemony is being gutted and moved to China. The gold, for example, etc.

Etc.

You can read it in the papers if you look.

If everyone is nice, and everyone reads from one of the false scripts, titled: The Easy Way, then a new World Reserve Currency will peacefully (relatively speaking) move to China, and then the world will be ruled from that new headquarters.

If the honest productive people don't read from the script, if they don't bow down and lick the boots of their old masters who are hired to hold empty bags, and if they don't bow down and lick the boots of their new masters who have moved to China, then there will be a need to cull the herd.

What you must know, before it is too late, is that the power struggle is such that the Legal Criminals cannot allow the total sum of power produced to reach a level that is no longer manageable for them, in their small group (relatively speaking).

A. The honest productive people.

B. The Legal Criminals.

My guess is that the number of people in group B is much smaller than anyone knows if someone is in group A.

Only the people in group B know who is in group B and they probably don't allow the whistle blowers to live long if the names, addresses, phone numbers, etc., of those in the B group are published in any way that is unauthorized by the people in group B.

You can call me a conspiracy theorist if that is your knee jerk reaction, your conditioned response, and I can pity us for your condition of being - too bad for us.

Much, much, much too bad for us.

All you need to know about the truth concerning group A and group B and how those two groups are brought into being, or purchased, is found by using simple math.

How much value could all the honest people create if they used the value they have to make more value?

Words fail to convey the whole meaning, so I'll use other words to help convey the same meaning.

How much power could all the honest people create if they used the power they have to make more power?

Still confusing? Money is the power to purchase or it isn't money. The legal criminals have been busy stealing all the power out of the American money since 1788.

They take the power out, they own everything now, and they are moving to China.

I can't give you the names, I'm not in group B.

From China they will dictate what we do in America after the war.

We are not on the schedule to win World War III.

I can offer information that shows where all the power is going - it is called Capital Flight.

We, the honest productive people, are not on the schedule to win World War III, not in China, and not in America.

We will do the suffering, as victims.

You think I'm the conspiracy theorist, because that is what you are told to think.

Do you think that World War III (which is happening right now, and has been happening for some time) is an accident? Do you think that these orders to make weapons of mass destruction (such as all those official lies) are handed down to us from God or The Devil?

Call me nuts, while you can still afford to do so. Your time may not be running out, but think one thought for now, if you have children, or you like the concept of another generation, and consider what is on their schedule, handed down to them by this accidental force of God, or The Devil, anything but, since you are not allowed to know, anything but the truth, that their fate is in the hands of the Legal Criminals - BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT YOU PAID FOR.



The good news is that the stuff I'm reporting benefits the Legal Criminals, as you are told, you are ordered, to be depressed, to go off and kill yourself, make their day, and the good news is, wait for it, you don't have to obey - so long as you still have power of will. Do you, have your own good news? On July 4th, 2012, stop paying into Legal Crime. How about that for good news?

There will be a prime moment to do so, and that prime moment will be the moment when the Legal Criminals switch over to China as the new base of operations for The World Reserve Currency Power. Here in America, on that schedule, we are to be left holding an empty bag, a worthless, powerless, dollar. At that moment we must be ready to usher in a new age of competitive legal money, or drop the concept of legality altogether.

We must be ready to replace all the false stuff for true (accurate) stuff, and we will learn, again, how well accurate stuff works, instead of false stuff, and how powerful accurate stuff is, compared to false stuff, and that learning process occurs when the false stuff is paraded out in the open, for all to see, and compared, compared to the accurate stuff, in a competition of sorts, which will be our choice, at that moment when the Legal Criminals play their hand.

If too many of us join in on World War III, too bad for them, much too bad, and the rest of us will certainly suffer. That is the bad news. The good news is that we don't have to obey that order to join in on Legal Crime - it is always our choice to refuse to obey an immoral order, which can only originate from the mouth (or brain) of a criminals, even if the criminal happens to have a badge.

The good news is that the stuff I'm reporting benefits the Legal Criminals, as you are told, you are ordered, to be depressed, to go off and kill yourself, make their day, and the good news is, wait for it, you don't have to obey - so long as you still have power of will. Do you, have your own good news? On July 4th, 2012, stop paying into Legal Crime. How about that for good news?

There will be a prime moment to do so, and that prime moment will be the moment when the Legal Criminals switch over to China as the new base of operations for The World Reserve Currency Power. Here in America, on that schedule, we are to be left holding an empty bag, a worthless, powerless, dollar. At that moment we must be ready to usher in a new age of competitive legal money, or drop the concept of legality altogether.

We must be ready to replace all the false stuff for true (accurate) stuff, and we will learn, again, how well accurate stuff works, instead of false stuff, and how powerful accurate stuff is, compared to false stuff, and that learning process occurs when the false stuff is paraded out in the open, for all to see, and compared, compared to the accurate stuff, in a competition of sorts, which will be our choice, at that moment when the Legal Criminals play their hand.

If too many of us join in on World War III, too bad for them, much too bad, and the rest of us will certainly suffer. That is the bad news. The good news is that we don't have to obey that order to join in on Legal Crime - it is always our choice to refuse to obey an immoral order, which can only originate from the mouth (or brain) of a criminal, even if the criminal happens to have a badge.





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Liberty Day is the day that the honest productive people grow some balls and begin using their own individual brains, and then they act as one, and the act they agree to act out is merely a refusal to pay another calorie of life sustaining earnings to any criminal ever gain so help their God. How about July 4th 2012?

My brother and I are far from perfect, but we constitute the beginning of the end for the Legal Criminals on this specific front in the power struggle. We don't have to sign any declaration of independence, as the idea of making things official is superfluous compared to that measurable reality of reigning in, of slowing down, of stopping, and of never allowing again, that flow of power, measurable power, physical power, and even psychological power of mind, of will, that continues to flow from the honest productive people, which is the source of power, to the legal criminals who steal it.

We are not alone, and we may be as misdirected by our own failures to apply our own limited power, but that can improve, on a global scale, as more and more people polarize onto this single path of ending the flow of power as it flows, again, from those who created it, honestly, which is the only way to earn trust, which is the only way to cooperate, which is the only way to produce anything worth anything, to be productive, and once polarized the force that will exist, will be that competitive force, that force that drives quality up, and that force that drives costs down - the way, the path, the future production of higher, and higher, quality of life, while simultaneously lowering, and lowering, the cost of life, not-for-the few, but for all, competitively in Liberty.

If you are afraid, then know, by trial and error, you will find your special place, where you alone produce the best that you can produce, like know one else can, because in Liberty, you can try, and you can learn from your own error - so don't be afraid - be challenged.

If you resort to lies, you will earn something for sure, including the lie you own, the lie that blames everyone else for your own damn choice.

Liberty is, truly is, in all but a few cases of complete and utter despotism, such as, for example, all those people through time held to the rack, in the torture chambers, while their lives are drained one ounce of flesh at a time, one drop of blood at a time, in those many dungeons built upon these collective false choices our worst evil we as a species can produce.

Liberty is, it is the condition of life, the stark naked thrust of demands placed upon us, to sink or swim.

Please, sir, can I have some more?

False choices come from somewhere, they are not handed down by a god or the devil, they are produced by someone, at some time, and then those false choices either gain or lose, like any other trial, subject to error.

I'm only following orders.

Who decided to follow orders?

News Item for the day

That should be clearly understood for what it is precisely, from a general understanding to a very specific naming of names, finding of addresses, and holding specific people to account, and avoiding any resort to deceit, to threats of violence, and to acts of very destructive violence upon the innocent.

Generally speaking that is an expense of power that has been stolen in the work of destroying any competition that threatens the power to steal - legally. That, more specifically, is The Dollar Hegemony working, with the power stolen by way of The Business Cycle, by way of using a Legal Money Monopoly to extort value from the victims, in the work that is necessary in forcing a rival, a competitor, to either join the monopoly, or be destroyed.

A Central Bank is code, it is code wording, it is known by those in the know to be the prize, the ultimate wish to use that one wish to increase the number of wished to infinity.

Gene: You have three wishes.

Lamp rubbing Legal Criminal: My first wish is to have more power than you, I want unlimited wishes, that is my wish.

Gene: Darn it.





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Liberty Day is too, for some, not all.

I woke up with the concept of division of labor working in my brain and once aware enough to regain control over my thoughts I participated in the work on division of labor. The idea is to measure how division of labor works.

If there is only one person, or if every person is completely disconnected from every other person, there can be no division of labor.

That is one way to measure division of labor.

A very good example of division of labor is provided by the natural thing called reproduction whereby one isn't enough to make enough one.

It takes two.

One does one thing.

The other does the other thing.

That is the division of labor example provided by the natural process of life as life exists.

The measure of that example of division of labor is the number of people in the past, now, and the number of people in the future - clearly.

Failing to divide that labor is an end to the process of reproduction, unless other means are used, and even those other means require more than one person working to accomplish whatever goal is in mind.

Labor = work.

Action resulting in production.

Before the action there is no production.

After the action there is production.

One person can act, and one person can produce, and when only one person is involved in the act that produces then there is, by definition, no division of labor. The one person does all the work, and no one else does any of the work.

1/0

1 divided by 0.

How does that work out, and I can show you, but I didn't do all the work, I've read about work done by other people on this division of labor measure.

Division of labor is one thing. How is division of labor measured?

Another example can be provided, added to the example of reproduction, and I offer a unit of production, which can be measured as a calorie, which can be converted to a measure of power, so long as the measure of time is included.

Calorie per second.

That can be converted to watts.

1 calorie/second [I.T.] = 4.186 8 watt

Look here

How many rednecks does it take to screw up a light bulb?

I'm just saying...

Division of labor on anything can be accurately measured and to do so there must be a product measure, a thing that is produced, and then divide that thing produced by the number of people working on it.

1/2

It takes 2 rednecks to screw up one light bulb.

The work load is divided by 2, and the measure can be much more accurate.

One redneck holds the ladder, the other redneck does the screwing on top of the ladder, and the result, the product, which is one screwed light bulb, is produced, and it required, in that example, 2 rednecks.

How about colonization of mars?

1 = Colonization of mars.

That is one thing.

One thing not yet produced, and the question is, and the question can be answered when it is answered, and that question, when it is answered, can be answered by however many living beings were required to produce that one thing.

1/1 plus many zeros

How many zeros?

How about human colonization of Earth?

Before, way before, back in time, way back in time, relatively speaking, there were no humans colonizing Earth, now there are, that is again: one thing.

Colonization of Earth = 1

What is the accurate answer for the division of labor?

1/?

or

1/x?

How many zeros?


This may seem to be stupid to you, but to me it is how my brain works on knowing things better, by working on these things, looking at these things from many different angles, and creating examples, and producing problems, and asking questions, and not settling for answers that are riddled with contradictions.

How about something more specific in detail, and something more practical, something like asking a group of young people if they can divide their labor and produce 100 dollars.

$100.00/10

Suppose there are 10 young people in the room.

A time period is need, or there is no power in the answer.

How about converting the $100.00 product into a fixed measure of power instead of a fraudulent criminal measure of legal power?  I know, that is saying a lot, and probably confusing people, but that is why I'm asking for a conversion to something less dubious as the $100.00 measure.

The 10 young people still have to get the cash, in the time period allotted, and then we can convert that to calories, we could all go to lunch and buy some food.

How about that?

10 young people, they have until tomorrow noon to divide their labor and pay for lunch to feed all 10.

Lunch/10

One of the kids comes up with a plan.

That is division of labor working right there on that spot, at that time.

We all go home and ask our parents to fork over 10 bucks each.

Johnny, you all know about Johnny, well, he says, no fucking way, dude, my parents are broke.

Time is running out.

The thief shuts up, not wanting to expose his version of work to the rest of the potential victims. Once the product is produced, it is his plan for it to go missing.

Lunch - lunch = no lunch/10

Math is an angle of view.


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Liberty Day can be for everyone except those who prefer the alternative.

Speaking of those, rather than for those, I can guess as to their thinking processes.

How about news of impending war?

"What news?"

News of impending war - news.

"War?"

Yea

"What about it?"

How does your thinking go on the news of impending war?

"What thinking?"

Do you, for example, think about how you are going to support it?

"I'd have to figure that out when the time comes."

What happens if you skip that part?

"What part?"

The part where you regain control over your support for the impending war, and the current war, and the wars the next generation will be supporting, that part."

"What part?"

That part.

"I wasn't listening."

I get that part.

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I had in mind to leave it at that, this morning, to send out a sound bite and call it a day on the battle front, to return to living offensively instead of expending power defensively.

Then I started reading from one new news source:

Info-wars

Unfortunately for the victims, and fortune for the few who cause those injuries, the worst news isn't so bad, until the victims start digging where they are not led to dig.

In other words: you don't know half the story.

This pending war is one that we are paying for.

And we are paying to lose it.

That is what happens when we provide the means by which we suffer, and that is not new news, that is very, very, very, old news. That was not news when the next volley of information was shot out into the stream of news:

Common Sense awhile ago.

Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one: for when we suffer, or are exposed to the same miseries BY A GOVERNMENT, which we might expect in a country WITHOUT GOVERNMENT, our calamity is heightened by reflecting that we furnish the means by which we suffer.

How does the process go, in the minds of the victims, as they pay to lose the next war? The next war will be a big loss for the losers, as all the power they can produce is sucked into that thing that is designed to fail, and it is designed to fail big - a really big shew.

OK, so, Joe, Joe, Joe, you don't know.

You are guessing, about losing, about "our" trusted leaders, and about how they are going to lose the war on purpose, so as to cash in and move to the winning side, that is all hypothetical, and, in fact, it is nonsense.

Yea, I'm the stupid one, I get that a lot.

OK, Mr. Smarty Pants, supposing, on a long shot, that you are right, that those leaders of "ours" are planning on doing a number on us, raiding this corporation thing you keep calling U.S.A. Inc....

LLC

What?

Don't forget Limited Liability Corporation.

What?

They get all the power and none of the responsibility.

What?

Go on.

Yes, or I'll lose my thought...

And the war.

Stop it.

Go on.

So, supposing they do this thing, this war thing, and they lose, and then they move to China, as you say, and from there they lord over the world with their money monopoly intact, and then we have to pay them, with their money, so as to get what we need, I got that part, but what about that vacuum that occurs when they leave.

You tell me.

Won't we fill that vacuum with good people and then have our country back, since the bad guys, these guys you call Legal Criminals, since the Legal Criminals left?

That is the point.

The point?

Yes, the time will be ripe, when they have made us weak, their power over us will be at the weakest, or so my hypothesis goes, and at that time we will have that golden opportunity to reestablish a semblance of liberty, with something similar to a voluntary government, such as that tried and true form known as a Democratic Federated Republican Experimental Competitive Form of Voluntary Government.

You mean to return to The Constitution, as the Tea Party and Occupy Wall Street people suggest?

No.

No! You are a nut case, aren't you.

No. The thing is a power struggle and the prize is the medium by which the individual power sources are connected, like an electric circuit, or even a hydraulic circuit - or a human body, or any living thing.

What connects the individual power sources, and how does the power flow through the circuit? The Constitution was a means to an end, it was an end to the Democratic Federated Republic (explained in great detail by those who opposed it, including Patrick Henry - who smelled the rat), and The Constitution enabled the few to enforce the medium of exchanges that they designed for their single purpose.

Their single purpose?

To cause the victims to provide the means by which the victims will suffer.

This:

Single Purpose

You show that a lot.

Yes, and all it takes for any of the victims is to check their end of that stick. If they still think that that stick is constituted in such a way as to be in their own best interest, then they may get what they pay for, when "we" lose this next war, and that thing, that they think is in their own best interest, moves to China.

If you think it is bad now, that clock, just wait a few decades.

Decades?

Yes, the march to enforced legal torture and mass murder is inevitably going to be slow, and difficult, since some of the victims figure it out in time, and they do the unthinkable.

What is the unthinkable?

They stop volunteering to join the march to living hell - and they do so on a regular basis. Once you begin to use empathy, or at least sympathy, for the Legal Criminals you have to come up with an understanding of just how difficult it must be to keep the victims buying into the fraud - providing the means by which the victims suffer.

How tough is it to cause people to pay to have their lives ruined, to work harder, and harder, so as to be more, and more miserable - how easy it it to accomplish that goal?

Now you are nuts for sure.

What makes you think so?

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Today is 12-06-2011

Liberty Day can be July 4th 2012, tag you are it.

There needs to be no infection of Liberty as there must be in Falsehood, where each successive victims falls prey to the lies, no, no, no, not in Liberty. In Liberty there are no victims of it, but there is an obvious challenge about it.

A. Avoid being infected and caught in the web of deceit that promises everything but delivers a slow and miserable death.

B. How to: a. increase the quality of life, and b. lower the costs.

The infection takes many forms but the one form that stands out as the most dangerous, measurably destructive for the victims as individuals and as a sum of all the individual destruction too.

I. Sacrosanct  monopoly power.

1. Legal Truth
2. Punishment
3. The one and only money

I did my homework (and had fun too), perhaps not as much homework as my betters, but enough to offer something to those who have yet to do any homework, on this Liberty or Death (Miserable) thing so...

‎"made holy by sacred rite"

First sacrosanct monopoly power on the laundry list is proven to be so by the actual legal record, and anyone claiming otherwise can be held to account if you please:

Official Sacrosanct Legal Monopoly Edict

That IS the official edict from the official legal monopoly enforced by the single legal power, and the agents who steal that power (there is no better word to convey the accurate meaning of how those people acquire that power) and I quote (but don't shoot me I'm just the messenger) - I cut and paste:

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AMENDMENT XIV Passed by Congress June 13, 1866. Ratified July 9, 1868.
Section 4.
The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.
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The torture chambers await those who fail to avoid entrapment into the fold, and those once infected for failure to obey that which can't be obeyed on purpose - for the profit of a very few. 

You can pick and choose whose words offer more power, and you can pick your nose, but you may have a hard time picking someone else's nose, without a license. 

Next on the list is the legal monopoly power to punish, and I'm going to skip that grisly detail as the license holders are currently busy torturing innocent victims by the fucking millions, even if you can't hear the screams, yet, and even if you can't smell the burning flesh, yet, and even if you are not yet psychically being pulled into the meat grinder you help maintain with your hard earned earnings - which leads right to item 3.

The single money power is, in a word, sacrosanct.

Got that?

You are infected - check the signs which are visible, accurately understandable, measurable, knowable.

You are infected.

Which money do you demand for payment? How about a parody? How about a lunatic parody that intends to expose the real dupes, the real idiots, the real legal criminal accessories to all the torture and the mass murder, so as to help the real victims know the real truth, not the legal truth enforced by the real punishments as the really bad ones among us are hired to do what they do best.

Wage earner:
"I've worked and produced vast quantities of measurable wealth and I demand payment with a money that is designed to ensure that my pay is then stolen from me through the careful manipulation of the supply of that one legal money power - thank you very much - and fuck me in the ass until I bleed from the eyes while you are at it please."
Now, Joe, you have really gone over the edge. Someone call someone and send over the men in the white coats. 
You know where I live. No where to run. No where to hide.

Moving onto some news:

Poll the next generation and what do you find?

Liberty or a slow and miserable death to the legal criminals who legalize torture and mass murder for their own profit?
You are infected if you have been led to believe in things that are demonstrably false.

Have a nice day.

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Liberty Day, for many, is not today.

Two things strike me this morning as things worth spreading, items of information, and my comments intend to convey my angle of view on those things.

1.:

War Criminal at Large

That is a former war criminal at large, the power to commit war crimes has been passed on to a new war criminal. The reason why I see this as being important news involves a few things that collide from different angles. One thing is the Swiss thing. The Swiss thing was the thing that some of the American Founding Fathers wanted to emulate. That thing was a working Democratic Federated Republican Competitive Experimental form of government, or, almost the exact opposite of a Dictatorship, or Fascism, or Consolidated (Monopoly) Government, or Monarchism, or any arrangement whereby the power to do things is controlled by a very few, or one, upon the many, or upon those that are not among those few, or that one.

Historical examples abound at to dictatorships, and few examples are allowed by the dictatorships to oppose the dictatorships. The two exceptions I've read about are The Swiss Model, and the model that was modeled after the Swiss Model, which is The Articles of Confederation working in America in between the time when the British Monarchy worked Despotically upon the people in America, and then the U.S.A. Inc. (LLC) Fascist State working Despotically upon the entire world, with few exceptions, after The Articles of Confederation were fraudulently usurped (gotten rid of).

The long standing Swiss Model remained neutral in World War I, and World War II, and the Swiss Model copied and used in America to drive out the British may have remained neutral during World War I, and World War II too, had it not been fraudulently usurped (gotten rid of) from within.

The Swiss Model has not been gotten rid of from within Switzerland as yet.

Enter stage left:

War Criminals touring the world seeking more profits from wars, being paid to speak to the other profiteers, a jolly good show, with one problem - and I quote:

Former U.S. President George W. Bush has cancelled a visit to Switzerland over fears he could have been arrested on torture charges.
If God wants people to torture each other, for fun, and profit, then there are those who prefer otherwise, and those outcasts may yet be capable of avoiding the dirty business, avoiding the act of torturing other people, and avoiding the injury of being tortured by other people. Those non-believers, in the torture for hire, torture for fun, and torture for profit business, may also have enough power to discourage such behavior.

That is news.

 2.

Oil again

There is power in oil, and it is accurately measurable, impossible to falsify, power is measurable in specific units like Watts.

Bullshit ALERT!!!

Most people don't know how monopoly power works, and that is a monopoly power at work. There is power in knowing; when you are the only one's knowing.

Example:

A power supply exists (knowledge, oil, a ready supply of millions of human drones who will obey every order no matter how evil or patently absurd those orders are - in fact), and the power that exits can produce heaven on earth for whomever gains access to that power.

Everyone has it, and therefore no one has more than anyone else.

A few have it, and therefore those who don't have it will do just about anything to get it - from those who have it.

What, then, now that you have a working understanding of how monopoly power works, which may be a wild ass assumption on my part, but I can go with it, to sling it out there, and see if any of it sticks, or if it just bounces off the armor of falsehood.

Going with it, then, this assumption that some people may gain the power of knowing how monopoly power works, then I'm going to list a few things that must be kept scarce, a few powerful things that can't be allowed to be controlled by everyone, not nearly everyone, and in practical terms, the list of things must only be controlled by a few people, in order for monopoly power to work as it is intended to work for the monopolists, or despots, or what I call Legal Criminals.

1. Land
2. Potable Water
3. Food
4. Fuel (Oil, Coal, Wood, Electricity, Sunlight, see # 2 above)
5. Knowledge
6. Common Sense
7. Connectivity
8. Equity
9. Voluntary Defensive Mutual Cooperation (government)
10. Economic Power (division of labor, specialization, and economies of scale)

Take one.

Oil.

Look here:

Who has exclusive control over the facts?

Skeptical?

When power is abundant (a demonstrable fact) there has to be another reason to explain starvation of millions of people, the torture of millions of people, and the mass murder of millions of people, since it is not for lack of power existing, it is for the lack of power being available to those victims.

Suppose, for example, that we do two things now.

We imagine ourselves back in time before World War II (or World War I), or World Wars I and II, as if it were one war, and the other thing we do is imagine ourselves in the future: after World War III.

What would have happened of all the victims of World War I, II, and III, all knew better?

What would have happened if they were all more like The Swiss?

They all avoided the whole mess, opted out?

Where did they get the power to do so, and  how did they overcome the forces that kept that power from flowing to them, without resorting to feeding upon each other?

What do you think will happen if you stop feeding the Legal Criminals?

They will feed upon each other until there are no more left.

What do you think will be World War III?

What do you think was World War 1 and II?

Clueless?

What is the price on The State of Cluelessness; while the facts are as abundant as clean air and water?



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Liberty Day can spread like wild fire breaking the connection between the Legal Criminals and all their victims.

Reason versus an abject belief in Falsehood

An abject belief in a patented absurdity is a power to be respected?

When that power feeds Legal Crime.

When the victims will believe anything:

A Fictional Illustration (Do Not Read that which you will regret):

You have been warned. Hide the facts if they are too scary.

Picture a Legal Criminal reporting how "We" are broke as the Legal Criminal in the example pictured pockets a "Bail-Out" check worth some sum of dollars exceeding the annual budget of many small States, some small Countries, most counties, and almost every town.

The not-for-profit government pay rate, during that stint through that revolving fascist door, isn't the check in question, being pocketed, of the sum that contains more zeros that any single person can produce, ever, no, the check will arrive later, or before, in time: an earning now for a good job done, or a promise to pay for a good job done later. A pay check, bonus, worthy of a boner, if that turns your crank.

An American Pshyco

You have been warned.

Now, having that vision in your mind I'm going to paint some equally patented absurdities, so as to remind the moral part of your brain, to spark an interest in that long forgotten, and atrophied, area of brain matter called a conscience.

Don't forget the context.

Paying someone more, and more, and more, and working harder, and harder, and harder, to pay someone more, and more, and more, because that person says we are broke, while that person drives off in their limousine, boarding their private jet, to go vacation on one of the many mansions they own around this small blue planet. 

Mr. Legal Criminal is standing before the victims in this speech, this report, concerning how broke we are, and he turns to a wooden table where your child is nailed down onto it, spread eagle. Mr. Legal Criminal starts fucking the child while eating it alive, and then he continues even as the life is eaten out of your child, such a necromancer as he or she (strap on or sewed on) may be, fucking and eating in front of you, and now the report reports on just how much work is being done to save your child. 

First:
Pay more because we are broke.
Second:
Save the children

Believe whatever makes you happy.

Well, the report continues, as it grows tired, spent, and in need of some real fun, current fun, that last episode is so, so...soso; it is in the past, sent down the memory hole, so it turns to you. You are next in line, or you are the last in that line, since your children managed, somehow, the memory is absent, gotten in front of you in that line, they were spent before you, in that line. 

You are next.

It is now your turn to find out just how broke we are, really are, in reality.

You will know the real score then, who is really broke, and who is not as broke, and who has enough left to save the children, and who is truly spent - when it is your turn.

Not yet, of course, not yet. 

Now, now, now, you can blame me for my ruining of your day, showing you this example of an imaginary example of a patented absurdity, which isn't the lie, the lie that we are broke isn't the patented absurdity, nor is my necromancer story truly the patented absurdity: the patented absurdity is that people believe it, and hold it as true.

We are broke.

Say that enough times, and you can make it true in time.

We are not broke.

What happens with the power you still have?

Send it to the Legal Criminals?

We are broke.

We are not broke.

At least until it is your turn on the table, you are not broke, and then you are just dead, and whatever happens after that - if anything - you are not that broke yet, not that broke now.

We are not broke if we get a bail out check in the mail worth a few trillion.

We are broke if we get a bunker buster bomb up our asses.

What about you?

Well you are not there yet, but that is not to say that many people are, now, as liberated as you, as your power is still created by you, and you still have some control over your power.

Liberated from death - somehow.

Pat yourself on the back, good job.

What about us?

Using power to make more power - to stay alive.

Can we do that?

Feeding into Legal Crime.

Why do any more of that?

What is the point?

Do you need more?

Take more, since we are broke and all. Take all you need.

We are, after all, broke.

Those bail-out checks, denominated in dollars, still purchase massive amounts of torture, on Earth, upon the innocent, and then those tortured victims are then murdered and piled up, and up, and up, rotting, stinking, and infesting the moral conscience of humankind - forever.

Pay more.

By all means.

The past cannot be erased from our DNA, it seems to me, so take care, please, in what you do with your life force, your power, how you spend it, because you do get what you pay for, and you don't get to press the reset button, as far as I know, which isn't very far.

At least I have found a few patented absurdities that are not worth believing.

How broke are we?

Let's find out?







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Tomorrow could be Liberty Day.

Who knows, and is it important to know, and how important is it to accurately know the facts?


Most Important "Story"?

Note the use of the word "Story".

How important is it to accurately know the path that can be taken so as to avert human extinction?

Taking the path that does not avert human extinction answers the question in time.

At that time there isn't any paths taken by any human beings.

So, who knows, and what is that path?

It just so happens to be measurably true that algae growing in each home, similar to 2 cars existing in each garage, can supply the world with the fuel used by those cars, and that process consumed CO2.

Now, please, consider questioning anyone who claims to be an authority on this Global Warming Story as to their proposed path taken to avert the undesired termination of that Story, as far as their authority goes.

Example.

Suppose you were to gain access to the story writer in the link offered at the top of this page.

I'll pretend to be an authority concerning such a fanciful meeting of human beings.

You, any one, any one at all, can be the person asking the questions, and any one of the authorities who author stories about Global Warming, any one of them, can be the person answering the questions, and when my pretend version is over, consider asking, or seeking, the accurate answers, and if you find any, consider reporting those facts, not those stories, but reporting those facts.

A.
Concerned Human Being (CHB)

B.
Authority Global Warming (AGW)

CHB asks:

OK, so, assuming that CO2 is threatening all life on Earth, including Human beings, as the production of C02 increases the temperature of the Globe, then why not start working toward placing a Modular Greenhouse Vertical Farming Unit in each home so as to begin consuming C02 in the process of making a replacement fuel to fuel all those cars instead of the Petroleum based (OIL) fuel that is currently causing this Global Warming threat, BUT, and this is important, DO NOT, give me the bullshit answer that claims that the algae growing process uses electric power and that electric power consumes Petroleum based fuels, so that, according to that BULLSHIT, there will be more, not less, CO2.

AGW:

Global Warming is coming, we are doomed, the only way out is to send more tax money to the Authorities, so that they can fix "our" problems.

CHB:

OK, perhaps you didn't hear the question, perhaps you were not listening, so please, consider listening, and as you listen, consider the possibility that you can understand the question, and then answer the question.

Again:

Why not, for example, give out interest free loans (where the principle has to be paid back, but no interest has to be paid back, or a low interest has to be paid back - such as 1% interest) to anyone who wants to convert from Petroleum consuming, and CO2 producing Power to Algae, and Solar Power Electricity, at home, independently, and for their profit making venture, if they want to start selling their extra Electricity and their Extra Gasoline made from Algae, where, by the way, the process consumed CO2? Why not do that?

AGW:

The Republicans claim that there is no Global Warming (even though that isn't what many claim, instead, they claim that the cause of global warming is natural, and it happened many times in the history of Earth, well before the general use of oil, which started roughly in 1860).

Global Warming is coming, we are doomed, the only way out is to send more tax money to the Authorities, so that they can fix "our" problems.

CHB:

Alright, I've heard all that before, but, now, can you at least admit what you are saying, and from that can you at least admit that something real can be done, something other than just saying that someone else will fix things, so long as your plan of sending more money to someone else is done.

AGW:

Global Warming is coming, we are doomed, the only way out is to send more tax money to the Authorities, so that they can fix "our" problems.

And the Republicans are bad, and the Democrats are better, at least less evil - these days.

CHB:

How about addressing the question asked? In less than a years time, there can be a Modular Greenhouse Vertical Farming Unit placed in every home (as compared to a garage in every home, not literally every home, but very many homes, roughly half, and the excess of one home production can be sold to those who have no production facility, roughly half produces enough for their own use and the other half that do not produce) where the power used to produce a replacement gasoline (algae based, not petroleum based) is Solar Power, in other words: each borrower buys into the fuel production business and in order to cut their own costs they invest in Solar Panels so as to cut their electricity bills lower than the cost of buying electricity from the monopoly power companies run by those nasty republicans (fascists).

The process is then the use of Solar Power (Power produced on-site, at the Sun, you know that bright yellow thing that flies overhead each day) to eat up CO2, while the fastest growing natural crop on the planet, algae, eats that CO2, gobbles it up, and the exhaust from all those production facilities across America put out the terrible, and the horrible, smog stuff known as oxygen, yup, the factories all over America, in every other home, consumes, eats up, all the precious C02, and then all those factories pollute our air by dumping that nasty oxygen stuff into our atmosphere - and that is all done to allow all those capitalist to profit by producing their own, independent home grown, motor fuel, for sale to their neighbors, and for their own use, daily.

Those bastard capitalists, take out a loan, and start shipping in the raw materials, from the sun, and they start consuming all our precious CO2, while they pump out a steady stream of deadly oxygen, and start filing up tanks, and tanks, of algae based gasoline, selling that massive production of gasoline (algae based) for a profit to their helpless, dependent, addicted, neighbors.

Addicted to algae based gasoline, bad, bad, bad, CO2 consuming, oxygen making, efficient, low cost, industry, at home.

Bad, bad, bad, bad, can't do it, it won't work, because I say so?


AGW:

Global Warming is coming, we are doomed, the only way out is to send more tax money to the Authorities, so that they can fix "our" problems.

Don't listen to the conspiracy theorist with the tin hat. Listen to me, and everyone on my side, we are right, or left, (which is it today?) and we know, we know, we are the authorities, we know, and you don't.








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Liberty Day can be July 4th 2012 or sooner.

Here is a bit of news (the republicans appear to agree that Ron Paul is their favorite):

Approaching the deadline

Some agree, some don't, of course.

Meanwhile, as the tax payers continue to fuel the progress into World War III, the troops are moving, the victims are screaming bloody murder, and all that hard works done by all those honest productive people produces tortured and dead piles, and piles, and piles, of rotting corpses.

Policing the world - why use those words that tend to cover-up, hide, dilute, or otherwise falsify the truth?

Policing means one thing or it means as many different things as can fit into a lie.

How about this:

The Grand Chess Game

Pakistan regained possession of the Shamsi air base in Balochistan near the border with Iran after evicting the US military presence.
That, if I am not mistaken, is where The World's Policemen have been convicting without trial designated criminals and then passing the sentence of death by way of carpet bombing.

Someone is paid to rat on someone else. A trustworthy informer collects a reward for giving a name to the World's Policemen, a sizable sum of money for a name and a place. Then a bomb is sent by air, a drone perhaps, or a cruise missile, who knows, and the convicted criminal (without trial) is executed, along with anyone else who happens to be nearby.

The potential targets don't like it, so they have managed to convince The World's Policemen to move onto greener pastures.

Where are those greener pastures?

Syria

What about good ole' U.S.A. Inc. (LLC)?

Taxpayers are not yet actually digging their own graves in a literal sense.

But, in a figurative sense, same as the words told in Common Sense, we are, in measurable ways, providing the means by which we suffer, and may suffer much more, if anyone steps out of line.

Oh, Joe, you old nut, formerly a young nut, I'll bet you heard that on ALGORES Internet, can't believe everything you hear, unless it is on T.V. - of course.

At what point will the truth be self-evident even to those who profit from it's evil?

Presumed guilty

"I want to show taxpayers in the Western world what their tax money is doing to people in another part of the world: killing civilians, innocent victims, children,"

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