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| Posted: Tue Jul 9th, 2013 10:58 am |
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bear Guest
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Joe, I had missed your message from 7/7 about dashes and will reply later today/tonight. I have a day with the Amish and my youngest has baseball tonite.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 9th, 2013 11:09 am |
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Joe Kelley Administrator
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bear, Thanks for the notes. I will keep monitoring this web site. I hope all is well in your life too. All is well here. Thanks
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| Posted: Tue Jul 9th, 2013 12:21 pm |
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JOE, I have some downtime at doc with Amish so I am able to answer sooner than later  Regarding dashes: http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/566/1/ : "Dash Dashes are used to set off or emphasize the content enclosed within dashes or the content that follows a dash. Dashes place more emphasis on this content than parentheses...Use a dash to set off an appositive phrase that already includes commas. An appositive is a word that adds explanatory or clarifying information to the noun that precedes it." Here is an explanation as to why I am using double dashes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dash#Rendering_dashes_on_computers : "Typewriters and early computers have traditionally had only a limited character set, often having no key that produces a dash. In consequence, it became common to substitute the nearest available punctuation mark or symbol. Em dashes are often represented in British usage by a single hyphen-minus surrounded by spaces, or in American usage by two hyphen-minuses surrounded by spaces." (also if you look to the beginning of the wiki article (at the top of the page) there is more explanation on dashes. If you look at the owl punctuation link above you will see that they use dashes like this-with the information linked, no space. I do not like that look. I like this - better; and better than that I like -- most. But Joe, what do you like? If you look at the wiki article there are codes that make long dashes, but I do not know how to do that. I noticed that you are able to do that with you write: —Joe you have a longer dash. I do not know how to do that without copying your long dash: — I could go back and replace -- with — if you like that better, or eve with—if you like the attached look better, or if you prefer no dashes at all, I can put in ... or parenthesis. I think it was just the feeling I had with the information, punctuation has some rules but also it has some wiggle room. And lots of wiggle room if you prefer Let me know what you think. I want it to be pleasing to you your eye! PS, I googled https://www.google.com/search?q=punctuation+dash&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a but the wiki link is what I went with after I had checked the owl link to begin with. I did not look at the other google offers.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 9th, 2013 12:35 pm |
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bear Guest
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Joe, continuing with dash info using quotes to the specific information now (previous reply was more general) "If all the Trillions of Dollars Spent on keeping the Monopoly Money Fraud Power maintained (destroying so much in that effort) was spent only on Solar Panels, nothing else, and sold at cost or "given" away -- instead of all that actual, measurable, destruction -- there would be how much production measurable as electricity and whatever was made with electricity? I used the double dash in the paragraph "If all the Trillions of Dollars Spent on keeping the Monopoly Money Fraud Power maintained (destroying so much in that effort) was spent only on Solar Panels, nothing else, and sold at cost or "given" away -- instead of all that actual, measurable, destruction -- there would be how much production measurable as electricity and whatever was made with electricity? because I wanting a distinct and very pronounced call-out of "INSTEAD OF ALL THAT ACTUAL, MEASURABLE, DESTRUCTION." I didn't use () because to me information inside () seems more incidental to the meaning of the paragraph. Kinda like sub-information. When I use ... I am kinda thinking more like a long pause linking information together. Kinda like a quick daydream. Not exactly a daydream, I don't know what words to use. So -- to me is like : except that the information being highlighted is enclosed between the set of dashes -- info -- . (hitting reply now so I don't lose this but am going to open back up and continue.) Is that the first incidence of using -- ? I did a quick search on Joe Quotes and found this: Also used here on page 71: "You lend moral and material support to torture and mass murder made legal (not just one person tortured once, legally -- and not just one murder victim murdered once) since the scale of these crimes makes Hitler and the Nazi crimes pale in comparison. " (however, it did not use them as a set, and that may be incorrect, I need to double check) page 76 "(That answer to that question is added to this book, because my ears can listen, but I am only one lost soul. --Joe)" (That one probably needs changed to one of your long dashes.) page 83 "If all the Trillions of Dollars Spent on keeping the Monopoly Money Fraud Power maintained (destroying so much in that effort) was spent only on Solar Panels, nothing else, and sold at cost or "given" away -- instead of all that actual, measurable, destruction -- there would be how much production measurable as electricity and whatever was made with electricity?" page 90 "I do know that the Central Bankers (Legal Criminals) cause small booms and small busts -- on a schedule -- to keep the victims guessing: the general trend for America is BUST…while the general trend for Asia is BOOM." page 100 "If from cradle to grave, a person like Ben Bernanke, a typical welfare mama, or papa (who knows these days, but typical welfare baby anyway) draining the productive capacity of those who actually produce, does not pay taxes…Ben baby does not pay taxes…then the poster boy of welfare -- Ben baby -- is on the receiving end of the extortion racket: so they don't pay taxes, but do they vote?" --------------------------------- So, it looks to me like it is something that I recently started doing. It also looks like I am doing that in some places because the sentences are extra long and it helps with readability. Just let me know what you prefer. I can easily replace these instances with something more preferable to Joe, as that would be preferable to bear too
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| Posted: Tue Jul 9th, 2013 12:50 pm |
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bear Guest
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JOE Thank you for noting How much would electricity cost if every bomb, missile, military base overseas, solider, food, clothing, supplies shipped overseas, was turned back in time, all the way back to the decision to invade Pennsylvania by Washington in 1794, and instead of that investment in maintaining the Money Monopoly Fraud business, all that POWER was exclusively spent on making Solar Panels, how much would electricity cost per Kilowatt/Hour now? I checked and the typo is on the forum, but I really thought I was going to find it in the document because I normally do a straight cut and paste from the document to the forum, but I must have missed, or changed something at the last minute...of course, I can't remember which or why, but I am glad you are watching! It could have easily have been left that way in the word doc.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 9th, 2013 12:55 pm |
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bear Guest
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joe, have to run now will looking into the following when I return It is like an education. You buy a book, with your time spent reading it carefully, like the Bible I suppose, (there are very valuable things in the Bible) to help make life much richer.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 9th, 2013 06:41 pm |
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bear Guest
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Joe, regarding:It is like an education. You buy a book, with your time spent reading it carefully, like the Bible I suppose, (there are very valuable things in the Bible) to help make life much richer. I can take parenthesis out to read: It is like an education. You buy a book, and with your time spent reading it carefully, you hope to help make life much richer. Like the Bible I suppose, there are very valuable things in the Bible. or: It is like an education. You buy a book, and with your time spent reading it carefully, you hope to help make life much richer....like the Bible I suppose, there are very valuable things in the Bible. (I may have been minimizing your speaking of the Bible in my mind when I put it in parenthesis. I was hearing it more of an afterthought so I stuck parenthesis around it.) Just let me know how you want it done
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| Posted: Wed Jul 10th, 2013 10:38 am |
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Joe Kelley Administrator
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bear, "But Joe, what do you like?" I like this: If from cradle to grave, a person like Ben Bernanke, a typical welfare mama, or papa (who knows these days, but typical welfare baby anyway) draining the productive capacity of those who actually produce, does not pay taxes…Ben baby does not pay taxes…then the poster boy of welfare -- Ben baby -- is on the receiving end of the extortion racket: so they don't pay taxes, but do they vote? A big problem I have is inconsistency in my own state of mind (or body, or both) when reading small sections of the book. Now that I see the second incident of using those double dashes it looks consistent, or better, or more user friendly, or more effective at transferring the message intact. I like that sentence that way. I also read another sentence that struck me as a very good improvement. I'll find it: I think that the most important power required, stored in your mind, is knowing that a fork in the road may arrive too soon and that the right way has to be taken because the wrong way is too costly. By that I mean that a person can become their own worst enemy if they are not prepared mentally for very challenging situations where doing the wrong thing may appear to be an easy way out, including doing nothing. I really like the use of the "By that I mean..." beginning of a new sentence, which replaces my overuse of and, and, and, and, so that the message is now very rich with ideas, such as the strength of competitive explanation (looking at one thing from many angles) instead of merely repeating the same thing. "I think it was just the feeling I had with the information, punctuation has some rules but also it has some wiggle room. And lots of wiggle room if you prefer" Explanations for future use (assuming I can remember) are one thing, but the other question I had is now answered, your improvements, including the double dashes, aid the accurate message flow. Please keep your improvements already done, and if you have any new ideas please don't hesitate to try them out. "because I wanting a distinct and very pronounced call-out of "INSTEAD OF ALL THAT ACTUAL, MEASURABLE, DESTRUCTION." I didn't use () because to me information inside () seems more incidental to the meaning of the paragraph. Kinda like sub-information. When I use ... I am kinda thinking more like a long pause linking information together. Kinda like a quick daydream. Not exactly a daydream, I don't know what words to use. So -- to me is like : except that the information being highlighted is enclosed between the set of dashes -- info -- . (hitting reply now so I don't lose this but am going to open back up and continue.)" That is the work of an artist, in my view, and it is inspiring for me to hear how you have such an intense interest in the things that you do, so I'm wondering now how well the food is growing in the garden. Do you shop for seeds that are not genetically modified? Is it odd to even ask such a question? So, it looks to me like it is something that I recently started doing. It also looks like I am doing that in some places because the sentences are extra long and it helps with readability. Just let me know what you prefer. I can easily replace these instances with something more preferable to Joe, as that would be preferable to bear too I write much, a lot of writing each day, relatively speaking, so your help works out to be help I can use, experiment on, currently. It may take hold -- the help may take hold -- in time (or it may fade away) as the World Turns. "It is like an education. You buy a book, and with your time spent reading it carefully, you hope to help make life much richer....like the Bible I suppose, there are very valuable things in the Bible." That works best, it actually adds the idea that your influence works on me, and not in a small way, but a way that is mysterious, unknown, or not easy to believe. Thanks again.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 10th, 2013 01:33 pm |
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bear Guest
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Thank you, Joe, your words were an encouragement to me. Am taking the youngest to grandma's while the oldest is at camp. Hopefully I will get some work done. I don't feel as tired as I did last week. The garden is growing. We are enjoying fresh cucumbers and squash. Got some fresh tomatoes from the Amish. I bought all my seedlings from the Amish this year. I am not sure what source of seed they use. My garden is smallish so I don't use much in the way of seed unless I am planting beans or peas. This year I bought heirloom tomato seedlings from the Amish, so I know they are not GMO. In the past I have purchased squash from somewhere (maybe not Amish, because I used to not just buy from them). The next year some of the squash reappeared (from seed) so I let it grow. The vegetables that were born were squatty and the size of a quarter and should have been like a cucumber. I didn't realize that would happen until it happened. Same way with alot of the flowers nowadays. They are made so they don't make seed and so you have to buy new each year after the winter freeze as far as annuals go. (Perennials winter over.) Anyways, I am sure that is more than you wanted to know. I think I noticed I missed a comma in one of the rewrites that you liked. I will fix it later and let you know how it should have been after I looked at it better (if it is still what I think I read). I am in a hurry to get lunch and out the door at the moment. I am glad you are able to write alot each day. That is nice.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 12th, 2013 10:48 pm |
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7/12/13 page 88 It is like an education. You buy a book, and with your time spent reading it carefully, you hope to help make life much richer. (Like the Bible I suppose, there are very valuable things in the Bible.) modified per our discussion (I like it this way too): It is like an education. You buy a book, and with your time spent reading it carefully, you hope to help make life much richer…like the Bible I suppose, there are very valuable things in the Bible.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 12th, 2013 10:55 pm |
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bear Guest
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Joe, I was looking into a rule regarding capitalization after ellipsis and before I had to run and did not come up with anything then. I think to be consistent, and perhaps to take the easy way out, I will remove capitalization following this ellipsis. (I had capitalized it because it was starting a new sentence, probably was not the right thing to do. I will do a search and make sure I haven't done that other places )If you buy one solar panel in so many years, you can buy two, and then in so many years you can buy four, and then sixteen…It is a very long term investment…like buying a house, or buying a farm, or buying a productive business.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 12th, 2013 11:06 pm |
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bear Guest
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Joe Regarding: I see you are now working on this, and I know it is very tiring work for me, so I hope you are not suffering through it too much. If you want I can take the file and work on it awhile. I can try to use your routine corrections as far as I know at this point. I want to do what you want to do. I am happy to continue working, and I do not mind. If you want to take a stab at it, I do not mind. I do not want to stifle your creativity by doing the editing myself. Your work here: I write much, a lot of writing each day, relatively speaking, so your help works out to be help I can use, experiment on, currently. It may take hold -- the help may take hold -- in time (or it may fade away) as the World Turns. Looks fabulous to me. A very nice and interesting use of punctuation. So, you tell me. Do you want to work with Joe Quotes abit? Your punctuation may be much richer than mine as you know exactly what is in your mind, or you can wait till I finish and improve the product after I have finished. I am good with whatever you want to do. I'll keep working unless you tell me otherwise. Earlier I said I thought I missed a comma:
I went back and looked. It looked good to me this time.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 12th, 2013 11:22 pm |
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bear Guest
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7/12/13 page 102 Christian Religion, the moral things, were the thoughts and actions employed by many of those so called Founding Fathers, the honest ones, and on the other hand are the counterfeit versions of moral things, like campaign promises told in The Federalist Papers, to be broken of course, were false claims, moral things falsified by people in that same group called Founding Fathers. So confusing thoughts and deeds with the names of thoughts and deeds, such as Christianity, is risky, in my opinion. Modified as follows: Christian Religion, the moral things, were the thoughts and actions employed by many of those so called Founding Fathers, the honest ones. On the other hand are the counterfeit versions of moral things: like campaign promises told in The Federalist Papers…promises to be broken of course…false claims…moral things falsified by people in that same group called Founding Fathers. So confusing thoughts and deeds with the names of thoughts and deeds, such as Christianity, is risky, in my opinion.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 12th, 2013 11:29 pm |
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bear Guest
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7/12/13 page 102 We have gone over this before, since Christianity was the false front cover story for such things as the Crusades and the Inquisition, which are hardly well representative of moral things. modified as follows: We went over this before when discussing Christianity as the false-front cover story for such things as the Crusades and the Inquisition, which are hardly well representative of moral things.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 12th, 2013 11:48 pm |
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7/12/13 page 102 As to your conversations with other people whereby you and the other person are speaking as if the National Level Crime Spree is legitimate in any sense of the word: I don't do that, so it has nothing to do with me, so I'll be a wet blanket in that party you are having with that person. Broke into 2 sentences: As to your conversations with other people whereby you and the other person are speaking as if the National Level Crime Spree is legitimate in any sense of the word: I don't do that. It has nothing to do with me, so I'll be a wet blanket in that party you are having with that person.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 12th, 2013 11:51 pm |
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7/12/13 page 103 Not at all: I'm not the one dictating to other people what they can do with their power since I know better. People have power, and one of the powers people have is the power to employ their power - without my help. Made the dash double, since that what I have done earlier: Not at all: I'm not the one dictating to other people what they can do with their power since I know better. People have power, and one of the powers people have is the power to employ their power -- without my help.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 12th, 2013 11:54 pm |
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7/12/13 page 103 Government is often confused with crime made legal. I don't do that. So you think I do, every single time. Why? Changed So to but: Government is often confused with crime made legal. I don't do that, but you think I do, every single time. Why?
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| Posted: Fri Jul 12th, 2013 11:56 pm |
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bear Guest
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7/12/13 page 103 I think that murder is murder and if I had the power to help other people then I'd help them avoid becoming murdered and becoming murderers. So had I that POWER to help them govern that way, would I hold back? modified as follows: I think that murder is murder, and if I had the power to help other people, then I'd help them avoid becoming murdered and becoming murderers. So if I that POWER to help them govern that way, would I hold back?
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| Posted: Fri Jul 12th, 2013 11:58 pm |
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7/12/13 page 103 I'd help them self-govern a way to avoid being murdered or being murderers. Added in: I'd help them self-govern in a way to avoid being murdered or being murderers.
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| Posted: Sat Jul 13th, 2013 12:01 am |
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7/12/13 page 103 Video: [Joe: generously offered by bear to Joe] Modified as follows: Video [generously offered by bear to Joe]:
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