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| Posted: Tue Jul 2nd, 2013 07:18 pm |
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7/2/13 page 77 I keep repeating the same thing. "Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one: for when we suffer, or are exposed to the same miseries BY A GOVERNMENT, which we might expect in a country WITHOUT GOVERNMENT, our calamity is heightened by reflecting that we furnish the means by which we suffer." Thomas Paine Changed period to colon and changed quotes to block quote: I keep repeating the same thing: Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one: for when we suffer, or are exposed to the same miseries BY A GOVERNMENT, which we might expect in a country WITHOUT GOVERNMENT, our calamity is heightened by reflecting that we furnish the means by which we suffer. — Thomas Paine
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| Posted: Tue Jul 2nd, 2013 07:33 pm |
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7/2/13 page 77 When the people who are being destroyed by despotism (Legal Crime) wake up, they then stop seeking the virus as if the virus can cure them. added comma: When the people who are being destroyed by despotism (Legal Crime) wake up, they then stop seeking the virus, as if the virus can cure them.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 2nd, 2013 07:40 pm |
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7/2/13 page 77/78 Legal Criminals know this, and so they make sure that those ideas do not become current, those ideas do not gain currency. And instead of those ideas gaining currency, a virus called Falsehood is made current, gaining currency through such things as Television which is almost an ideal Medium of Exchange for Dictators (Legal Criminals). Modified as follows: Legal Criminals know this so they make sure that those ideas do not become current, and those ideas do not gain currency. Instead of those ideas gaining currency, a virus called Falsehood is made current, gaining currency through such things as Television, which is almost an ideal Medium of Exchange for Dictators (Legal Criminals).
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| Posted: Tue Jul 2nd, 2013 07:43 pm |
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7/2/13 page 78 When human beings stop seeking the virus, as if it was the cure, they will look back at this time and they will wonder, as we wonder about the people in Germany during the Nazi regime, "what were they thinking?" capitalized What When human beings stop seeking the virus, as if it was the cure, they will look back at this time and they will wonder, as we wonder about the people in Germany during the Nazi regime, "What were they thinking?"
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| Posted: Tue Jul 2nd, 2013 07:55 pm |
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Joe"Josf, can you hear the lies?" That there makes me smile...Josf, is so patient with bear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaTB2Q3v6Zc I suppose I am getting off topic
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| Posted: Tue Jul 2nd, 2013 07:59 pm |
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7/2/13 page 79 "Balance is in order…I have a family…I just don’t have time even though I don't like what I see as injustice, or playing dirty." Removed comma: "Balance is in order…I have a family…I just don’t have time even though I don't like what I see as injustice or playing dirty."
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| Posted: Tue Jul 2nd, 2013 08:01 pm |
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7/2/13 page 79 I spent my life, my power, making rocks and sand for construction, for the most part, the productive physical part of my life. And what would I have done had I been more balanced, more productive, better, more connected with the concept of morality, productivity, spirituality? Added comma. Took out And: I spent my life, my power, making rocks and sand for construction, for the most part, the productive, physical part of my life. What would I have done had I been more balanced, more productive, better, more connected with the concept of morality, productivity, spirituality?
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| Posted: Tue Jul 2nd, 2013 08:02 pm |
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7/2/13 page 79 God only knows and I'm going to be clued in on Judgment Day? Added comma: God only knows, and I'm going to be clued in on Judgment Day?
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| Posted: Tue Jul 2nd, 2013 10:37 pm |
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7/2/13 page 79 To me the principle at work there: is the concept of any willful injury to anyone by anyone, is an injury to everyone. The innocent victim on the table being tortured right now is not happening in your kitchen. And the fact that it isn't happening in your kitchen is merely incidental. You are next. You are paying for that torture, so you are next, unless you hire on as the torturer, and even then you are only delaying your turn on the torture table. There will always be a more powerful criminal to take your place when the number of ready victims becomes scarce. modified punctuation as follows: To me, the principle at work there is the concept of any willful injury to anyone by anyone is an injury to everyone. The innocent victim on the table being tortured right now is not happening in your kitchen, and the fact that it isn't happening in your kitchen is merely incidental. You are next. You are paying for that torture, so you are next unless you hire on as the torturer, and even then you are only delaying your turn on the torture table. There will always be a more powerful criminal to take your place when the number of ready victims becomes scarce.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 2nd, 2013 10:41 pm |
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7/2/13 page 79 That is the Might makes Right scenario, cannibalism, we each eat each other until there are two of us left. Replaced commas with dashes: That is the Might makes Right scenario – cannibalism – we each eat each other until there are two of us left.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 2nd, 2013 11:07 pm |
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7/2/13 page 79 Yes if it concerns injuries to innocent people; no if it does not concern injuries to innocent people. Who is “we?” Made another sentence and moved question mark outside of quotes per: http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/577/03/ Yes, if it concerns injuries to innocent people. No, if it does not concern injuries to innocent people. Who is “we”?
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| Posted: Tue Jul 2nd, 2013 11:11 pm |
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7/2/13 page 80 Without morality, or spirituality (whatever word works best) the “Decide” part is directionless or will the decide part be directed by evil? moved commas and added italics: Without morality or spirituality (whatever word works best), the “Decide” part is directionless, or will the decide part be directed by evil?
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| Posted: Tue Jul 2nd, 2013 11:42 pm |
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7/2/13 page 80 To me this falls again into the category of two different worlds where you and I are targets because we produce more than we consume. And that is uncontroversial if there is a net sheet known as the Federal Tax "Liabilities," and our world is driven by equitable thoughts and actions, The Golden Rule, morality, spirituality, whatever word works best in any case in this type of productive world. Our world, where we have less at the start of the day and we have more at the end of the day, on average, over time, while the other world is Might making Right, or Falsehood, Lies, Threats, and Violence, taking and using what is taken to take more. So you can try to figure out from our world what their world is like, but seriously, it is another world. So you can, at best, guess, and you can borrow from other people: “Confessions of a Monopolist” by Frederic Clemson Howe, or “Confessions of an Economic Hit Man” by John Perkins, or “Money Masters.” Whatever, the pieces start fitting into an understandable viewpoint, but how far from your world of productivity is that world of destruction? modified: To me, this falls again into the category of two different worlds where you and I are targets because we produce more than we consume. That is uncontroversial if there is a net sheet known as the Federal Tax "Liabilities" and our world is driven by equitable thoughts and actions: The Golden Rule, morality, spirituality (whatever word works best in any case in this type of productive world). Our world, where we have less at the start of the day and we have more at the end of the day, on average, over time, while the other world is Might making Right or Falsehood, Lies, Threats, and Violence taking and using what is taken to take more. So you can try to figure out from our world what their world is like, but seriously, it is another world. So you can, at best, guess, and you can borrow from other people: Confessions of a Monopolist by Frederic Clemson Howe, or Confessions of an Economic Hit Man by John Perkins, or Money Masters, whatever, the pieces start fitting into an understandable viewpoint, but how far from your world of productivity is that world of destruction?
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| Posted: Tue Jul 2nd, 2013 11:46 pm |
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7/2/13 page 81 Are there false examples of Liberty being invented, produced, and maintained by Legal Criminals to divide and conquer those who would be effective at defending Liberty had the fake stuff not been in place to burn out defensive power as defensive power is thereby shunted, wasted, spent doing nothing or worse? added comma: Are there false examples of Liberty being invented, produced, and maintained by Legal Criminals to divide and conquer those who would be effective at defending Liberty had the fake stuff not been in place to burn out defensive power as defensive power is thereby shunted, wasted, spent doing nothing, or worse?
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| Posted: Tue Jul 2nd, 2013 11:56 pm |
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7/2/13 page 81 I don't think a Legal Criminal would ever allow such as thing as the Ross Perot thing to happen if it can be avoided. A baseline was set back when the National Debt was merely 4 Trillion, if I remember right, and now there is another ZERO added to that tally. Changed first as to a and added italics: I don't think a Legal Criminal would ever allow such a thing as the Ross Perot thing to happen if it can be avoided. A baseline was set back when the National Debt was merely 4 Trillion, if I remember right, and now there is another ZERO added to that tally.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 3rd, 2013 12:00 am |
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7/2/13 page 82 How is that not the same thing as curiosity? We do not see the same way, but I don't think the differences are of any great significance, not, for example, as different as us being compared with someone who employs deceit, threats of violence, and violence to get what they want from innocent victims. You know, voters in a National Election. Broke into another sentence: How is that not the same thing as curiosity? We do not see the same way, but I don't think the differences are of any great significance. Not, for example, as different as us being compared with someone who employs deceit, threats of violence, and violence to get what they want from innocent victims. You know, voters in a National Election.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 3rd, 2013 04:05 am |
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"I wonder did you laugh when you read it the first time? bear wants to vote for Romney, and wonders if Josf can hear the lies!" Humor may have found a way into my thinking at that point, it happens often enough, but I don't remember that specific exchange well enough to report accurately. I can say that often I cringe, or a similar feeling of repulsion, when my perception of life is invaded by very evil people, and it is to me an infection of my mind to have any sense of giving any of those high paid liars any credit for anything other than being high paid liars. Ron Paul, and too few other people, are exceptions to the rule that Monopoly Government (Legal Crime) is ruled, with few exceptions, by criminals. Romney makes my skin crawl, just like Clinton. G.W. Bush was comical, an obvious puppet, a frat boy out of his league, to me, more the source of comic relief. On the subject of songs I am currently working on this song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WW21rcHiVU0
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| Posted: Wed Jul 3rd, 2013 04:31 am |
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7/2/13 page 80 bear, I think you are doing the fine work that is required to make a book worth reading. I am following along on the improvements, and I found a possible additional improvement in this: To me, this falls again into the category of two different worlds where you and I are targets because we produce more than we consume. That is uncontroversial if there is a net sheet known as the Federal Tax "Liabilities" and our world is driven by equitable thoughts and actions: The Golden Rule, morality, spirituality (whatever word works best in any case in this type of productive world). To be more precise there is a problem I see here: That is uncontroversial if there is a net sheet known as the Federal Tax "Liabilities" and <------------- here It could be disconnected further so as not to confuse. Such as: To me, this falls again into the category of two different worlds where you and I are targets because we produce more than we consume. That "debt" based world is uncontroversial since there is a net sheet known as the Federal Tax "Liabilities" proving the fact. Our productive world, on the other hand, is driven by equitable thoughts and actions: The Golden Rule, morality, spirituality (whatever word works best in any case in this type of productive world). It could be arranged better, but I think that there was a problem with the flow of perspective when the two worlds collided in the sentence.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 4th, 2013 10:38 am |
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bear Guest
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Joe I have your note above. Thank you for providing me with the additional improvement. We are at Grandma's for the 4th and was too tired last nite to do any work. I will try to do some today.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 5th, 2013 10:22 pm |
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bear Guest
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7/5/13 Page 80 Currently: To me, this falls again into the category of two different worlds where you and I are targets because we produce more than we consume. That "debt" based world is uncontroversial since there is a net sheet known as the Federal Tax "Liabilities" proving the fact. Our productive world, on the other hand, is driven by equitable thoughts and actions: The Golden Rule, morality, spirituality (whatever word works best in any case in this type of productive world). Offered Improvement by Joe: To me, this falls again into the category of two different worlds where you and I are targets because we produce more than we consume. That "debt" based world is uncontroversial since there is a net sheet known as the Federal Tax "Liabilities" proving the fact. Our productive world, on the other hand, is driven by equitable thoughts and actions: The Golden Rule, morality, spirituality (whatever word works best in any case in this type of productive world). bear building with Joe's improvement (shown with underline): To me, this falls again into the category of two different worlds where you and I are targets because we produce more than we consume. On one hand, the "debt" based world is uncontroversial since there is a net sheet known as the Federal Tax "Liabilities" proving that fact. Our productive world, on the other hand, is driven by equitable thoughts and actions: The Golden Rule, morality, spirituality (whatever word works best in any case in this type of productive world).
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