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| Posted: Tue Aug 20th, 2013 02:53 pm |
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Cut and pasting from e-mail: I found one error. Not until page 50. Here: I got it, minus the bla, bla, bla, of course. But that was later, since the lie can't be exposed "publicly" despite my efforts to do so: To FORCE the liar to admit that the lair [liar] was lying, which he would not do. The other liar, the Human Resources liar, another well-paid liar, would not confess either – not in public, only in private. He had a lot of you can't have it, bla, bla, bla, too. The copy I am reading has page numbers in the Index miss-numbered beginning with Baby and Bathwater Again on page 33, where the Index lists page 34. I thought that I checked the page numbering yesterday and found it to be numbered right, but now it is not numbered right, so I'm wondering if I changed something; whichever is the case the .pdf version should be un-editable and at that point the final editing can be the final editing to be sent to the book publisher. I found some trouble in this: "I've told you the routine. It is not new. I found an example of the routine reported in that link on the U.S.S. Liberty. I found another example of the same routine in an old book titled The Lost State of Franklin where Legal Criminals solve the "Indian Problem" on the frontier with the same "Final Solution" used so often by Legal Criminals. In this example, the Legal Criminals hired very evil people to dress up as "Indians" to slaughter Settlers including babies, pregnant mothers, and toddlers – the more evil the better – and then blamed “the Indians,” spreading hatred into the Settlers so as to justify slaughtering “the Indians” who happen to be occupying that “Promised Land” (later to become Kentucky), which is rich land, good land, abundant land, but occupied by that "problem." Which is the same routine problem, over, and over, and over, and over again, where there are PEOPLE already on that "Promised Land" that Legal Criminals promise to themselves (for their own exploitation) USING their duped subjects that are subjected to the lies, threats, and violence of those same Legal Criminals doing the same old things that work time and again, over and over, and over again, and again, like a broken record or like a Business Psycho. " That is on page 58. There is mixing of past tense and current tense, if there is such a thing as current tense. "I've told you the routine. It is not new. I found an example of the routine reported in that link on the U.S.S. Liberty. I found another example of the same routine in an old book titled The Lost State of Franklin where Legal Criminals solve [solved] the [their] "Indian Problem" on the frontier with the same "Final Solution" used so often by Legal Criminals. In this example, the Legal Criminals hired very evil people to dress up as "Indians" to slaughter Settlers including babies, pregnant mothers, and toddlers – the more evil the better – and then blamed “the Indians,” spreading hatred into the Settlers so as to justify slaughtering “the Indians” who happen [happened] to be occupying that “Promised Land” (later to become Kentucky), which is [was] rich land, good land, abundant land, but occupied by that "problem." Which is the same routine problem, over, and over, and over, and over again, where there are PEOPLE already on that "Promised Land" that Legal Criminals promise to themselves (for their own exploitation) USING their duped subjects that are subjected to the lies, threats, and violence of those same Legal Criminals doing the same old things that work time and again, over and over, and over again, and again, like a broken record or like a Business Psycho. " or "I've told you the routine. It is not new. I found an example of the routine reported in that link on the U.S.S. Liberty. I found another example of the same routine in an old book titled The Lost State of Franklin where Legal Criminals solve the "Indian Problem" on the frontier with the same "Final Solution" used so often by Legal Criminals. In this example, the Legal Criminals hired [hire] very evil people to dress up as "Indians" to slaughter Settlers including babies, pregnant mothers, and toddlers – the more evil the better – and then blamed [blame] “the Indians,” spreading hatred into the Settlers so as to justify slaughtering “the Indians” who happen to be occupying that “Promised Land” (later to become Kentucky), which is rich land, good land, abundant land, but occupied by that "problem." Which is the same routine problem, over, and over, and over, and over again, where there are PEOPLE already on that "Promised Land" that Legal Criminals promise to themselves (for their own exploitation) USING their duped subjects that are subjected to the lies, threats, and violence of those same Legal Criminals doing the same old things that work time and again, over and over, and over again, and again, like a broken record or like a Business Psycho. " If you can figure out which is best, or create a better version, then please consider doing so. I have always struggled with mixing past, present, and future tense, as if my brain does not work well in the context of time. Page 65 The following is not correct: If you have not read one of my sales pitch illustrations, then you can read the one started in this thread between fictitious John (the customer) and Jane (the salesperson). The character John is the salesperson and Jane is the customer. Actually Jane is changed to Jean. I don't know if this inaccuracy is problematic and therefore in need of editing, so your help in deciding what to do, or not do, is requested. Page 69 "The reason Christians and Jews do things is to be because of a heart that loves God." Consider rewriting that sentence? I'm not sure about the cause of the difficulty in reading, but the message is understandable despite the difficulty in reading. Rewritten, by you, I am sure, will be, less difficulty in my reading the message, because you have a unique way with words; a talent...because.... Page 114 Counterpoint Joe The Sound of Silence can be deafening when considering all that is unsaid after “but”… The speaker says "but..." whereby the dots after but constitute silence, that which is unsaid, as if the speaker is leaving open the idea that "we know," like "an inside joke" and I can explain in detail concerning the example I have in mind. I was in my home town, on the National Congressional Ballot, at a Candidates Forum, which was recorded for Radio Broadcast on the Local Radio Station. After the show a person finds me, shakes my hand, and says that he agrees with what I had to say and then, like a dirty deal, he looks at me and says "But..." I got the feeling, and it stays with me, that we were supposed to wink at each other at that moment. Along the lines of the unspeakable dots being something along the lines of "if you cannot beat them, then we must join them," or "lo, I walk through the valley of death, and I fear no evil, for I am the most evil in that valley," or "you know, nudge, nudge, wink, wink, might does, after all, make right". So... Does the dots belong before or after the quote? Counterpoint Joe The Sound of Silence can be deafening when considering all that is unsaid after “but...”... At that time my thinking was much the same as today, wanting to find the worst of these criminals and then hold a Trial by Jury of whatever constitution could work to hold those people to accurate account at least. Not to hang people (might) but to know better, at least. So I was willing at that moment after "But..." to fill in the silence, but I was keen on listening, not dictating, to those who may volunteer to join the arduous struggle for liberty, in this animated contest of freedom, but..., there was only silence after but... I see now that the explanation was reported in the text following the point/counterpoint section. Page 125 Joe’s Law and Joe’s Slaw both take time to understand. One is hot and spicy with radishes, or so I hear…the other provides a key to abundance. The recipe for Joe’s Law is shared below. If you want the recipe for Joe’s Slaw, you will have to ask Joe. Joe’s Law is used here to prove the point that the American public needs to create and begin using competitive forms of currency. The addition of the recipe negates the need to ask me? Page 129 Instead of hearings, and even instead of court cases, the former victims would be inventing, producing, and employing forms of competitive purchasing power rather than being forced by effective deceit, and instead of being forced by effective threats of violence, and instead of being forced by effective violence targeting the competitors and forcing them to use of the one Counterfeit Money Produced by The FED. There in "forcing them to use of the one" is in need of taking out "of"? Page 129 ---------- I have been struggling with this part of my book, and your help is appreciated, and requested again because I have been struggling at these ideas, even now. Counterfeit power does not actually produce power, but consumes power. So The FED is actually consuming power, not producing it. With each lie – which is each unit of counterfeit money – and with each purchase that they alone make when they make money for nothing, and then when they spend the money they make for nothing but lying that is consumption. When they “loan” money that is a purchase, as they actually purchase a borrower. That is called fraud. I think a comma or something is needed to pause the idea at this point: and then when they spend the money they make for nothing but lying, that is consumption. Does it read any better? Page 145/146 ""A number of characters, of the greatest eminence in this country..." Missing in this quote is the author as such: Mr. Patrick Henry, June 9, 1788 That is one time through, and the list is much smaller. I think that there is a whole lot of work done to produce such a small book, and I think also that much of that work is "something for nothing" because bear did most of the work, and there is yet more work to be done. I did not go to the office today to work on finance files, but I did go to the office to reset the network files that were wiped out by the lightning storm. While I spent much of the day at home with the book work, it was truly satisfying to think of myself as a co-producer of a book. So, I say to myself, this is what book makers do for a living? If no one tried to write a book, there would be none.
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| Posted: Tue Aug 20th, 2013 11:54 pm |
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Joe, just want you to know I have read your comment regarding accountability and I am also cognizant of the editing notes on the last page of this string. They look like good finds. Incorporating those changes will be my first priority as time allows. The bookwork has been enjoyable and I am glad that you find it rewarding as well. I think personal reward is something that money cannot buy, or in other words, I think it is priceless. It is my privilege to assist you with Joe Quotes. A small gift for Joe after all of his generous gifts in the form of lessons in liberty. But Joe, today I looked at the DP. I found an anti-Zionism post and a pro Russia post. Those concepts bother me because they are opposite of what I have always thought.So Israel is bad and Russia is good? Really? If Israel is bad, Russia is bad as well. And I realize I am speaking of countries as if they do things. I realize it is people that do things and people that create policies and it is people that maneuver and guide events. I am not ready to give the Criminals in Russia any more credit than the Criminals in Israel. And seeing those posts almost makes me want to say you know what, "I think Israel is good and Russia is bad," because the opposite is being posted. How convenient for who knows who to be separating the US and Israel as allies. You see, I still have old patterns of thinking. OK, I didn't plan on discussing. But who else am I going to tell?
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| Posted: Wed Aug 21st, 2013 08:07 am |
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bear, I saw those posts and I did not read them. If a person is running away from the torturers, where can a person find sanctuary? If a person running away from the torturers is finding sanctuary only in Russia, then that is a fact worth knowing. I am not in the loop on the accurate facts as to where I can run to when the torturers are looking for me to work on. If I wanted to run to Russia, to get away form the torturers, I'd be hard pressed to find the funds required to pay for the trip. I think that the facts are such that there is no place for me to run, and no place for me to hide, if the torturers (Legal Criminals running U.S.A. Inc.) want to torture me. How about this angle: When Solzhenitsyn escaped the torturers in Russia he fled to The West. That was when the regime in Russia was the Bolsheviks who were financed by Wall Street (Bankers/Legal Criminals), and so long as it was fashionable to discredit The East, Solzhenitsyn was allowed to speak in The West. There was a regime change (the collapse of Soviet Russia so called) in Russia since. Now someone critical of The West (Snowden/Assange) flees to The East to escape the torturers and is allowed to speak critically of The West while in The East. Remember how the Conservatives Republicans became Red? Remember how The Federalists became the Anti-Federalists? Is all this merely human nature, accident, random, normal, as if some natural cyclic game of musical chairs is at work? I don't think so, this is, to me, all part of the build up, and execution, of war, big war, not just two people on two sides both set to torture and murder each other for fun and profit.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 21st, 2013 07:32 pm |
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Thank you for your Russia/Israel reply. I have so many words to say and not time at the current. I had a few minutes to work on editing and am almost most done. I should be able to send the pdf either tonight or tomorrow morning, if all goes as planned. I cannot believe I sent you a product that I said I was happy with when the contents table was wrong. I am sorry Joe. You did not do anything to the copy I sent. I failed to update the table after I changed bear font, and I didn't even have Joe's Slaw in the contents list. bad bear, bad, bad, bear.  You are so patient. Thank you Joe for being nice about it. I will make notes about the changes/thought process when I have finished. And if you don't like anything you see, just tell me and I'll fix. This is crazy, but I was thinking about the book comments today as I walked thru the living room, and my youngest was squeaking a wooden spindle in a piano bench by rotating it and when I asked him to quit, I called him Joe. I don't think it will go over well if Joe is in the list of names that comes out of my mouth when I am addressing one of my men. Having the dog's name as a part of the list sometimes is bad enough. Anyways, it kind of scared me that i did that. Both of your names start with J though. That is probably why. The dog's name starts with P as in Putt, so I have no excuse when Putt is part of the list before I get to the right name.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 21st, 2013 09:20 pm |
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bear, The wrong name can be bad I'm sure, but I know of another lady who had this problem, and that lady was called Nanny. Nanny would go through the whole list as such: Bobby, Jackie, Joey, Danny, Peter, all very fast, and kind of stuttering, whenever one of us was underfoot in some way. Like: "Up, pup, pup, Bobby, ah, Jackie, ah, Joey, ah, ah, Danny, up, pu, pup, pu, Peter, oh, oh, stop it, now." That was 50 yeas ago. My sister was the oldest, we were all born about 1 year apart from each other, except for the last one, Pete, who came along 3 years after Danny. Nanny watched us often while Mom tried desperately to find her mind. The fine art of editing is what it is, and patience appears to help.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 21st, 2013 10:52 pm |
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Joe, I have copied your list here and have added words in red that have to do with each correction: Cut and pasting from e-mail: I found one error. Not until page 50. Here: I got it, minus the bla, bla, bla, of course. But that was later, since the lie can't be exposed "publicly" despite my efforts to do so: To FORCE the liar to admit that the lair [liar] was lying, which he would not do. The other liar, the Human Resources liar, another well-paid liar, would not confess either – not in public, only in private. He had a lot of you can't have it, bla, bla, bla, too. Replaced lair with liar: I got it, minus the bla, bla, bla, of course. But that was later, since the lie can't be exposed "publicly" despite my efforts to do so: To FORCE the liar to admit that the liar was lying, which he would not do. The other liar, the Human Resources liar, another well-paid liar, would not confess either – not in public, only in private. He had a lot of you can't have it, bla, bla, bla, too. The copy I am reading has page numbers in the Index miss-numbered beginning with Baby and Bathwater Again on page 33, where the Index lists page 34. I thought that I checked the page numbering yesterday and found it to be numbered right, but now it is not numbered right, so I'm wondering if I changed something; whichever is the case the .pdf version should be un-editable and at that point the final editing can be the final editing to be sent to the book publisher. _________________________________________________________________________ Fixed Table of Contents Page Number and added Joe's Slaw. _________________________________________________________________________ I found some trouble in this: "I've told you the routine. It is not new. I found an example of the routine reported in that link on the U.S.S. Liberty. I found another example of the same routine in an old book titled The Lost State of Franklin where Legal Criminals solve the "Indian Problem" on the frontier with the same "Final Solution" used so often by Legal Criminals. In this example, the Legal Criminals hired very evil people to dress up as "Indians" to slaughter Settlers including babies, pregnant mothers, and toddlers – the more evil the better – and then blamed “the Indians,” spreading hatred into the Settlers so as to justify slaughtering “the Indians” who happen to be occupying that “Promised Land” (later to become Kentucky), which is rich land, good land, abundant land, but occupied by that "problem." Which is the same routine problem, over, and over, and over, and over again, where there are PEOPLE already on that "Promised Land" that Legal Criminals promise to themselves (for their own exploitation) USING their duped subjects that are subjected to the lies, threats, and violence of those same Legal Criminals doing the same old things that work time and again, over and over, and over again, and again, like a broken record or like a Business Psycho. " That is on page 58. There is mixing of past tense and current tense, if there is such a thing as current tense. "I've told you the routine. It is not new. I found an example of the routine reported in that link on the U.S.S. Liberty. I found another example of the same routine in an old book titled The Lost State of Franklin where Legal Criminals solve [solved] the [their] "Indian Problem" on the frontier with the same "Final Solution" used so often by Legal Criminals. In this example, the Legal Criminals hired very evil people to dress up as "Indians" to slaughter Settlers including babies, pregnant mothers, and toddlers – the more evil the better – and then blamed “the Indians,” spreading hatred into the Settlers so as to justify slaughtering “the Indians” who happen [happened] to be occupying that “Promised Land” (later to become Kentucky), which is [was] rich land, good land, abundant land, but occupied by that "problem." Which is the same routine problem, over, and over, and over, and over again, where there are PEOPLE already on that "Promised Land" that Legal Criminals promise to themselves (for their own exploitation) USING their duped subjects that are subjected to the lies, threats, and violence of those same Legal Criminals doing the same old things that work time and again, over and over, and over again, and again, like a broken record or like a Business Psycho. " or "I've told you the routine. It is not new. I found an example of the routine reported in that link on the U.S.S. Liberty. I found another example of the same routine in an old book titled The Lost State of Franklin where Legal Criminals solve the "Indian Problem" on the frontier with the same "Final Solution" used so often by Legal Criminals. In this example, the Legal Criminals hired [hire] very evil people to dress up as "Indians" to slaughter Settlers including babies, pregnant mothers, and toddlers – the more evil the better – and then blamed [blame] “the Indians,” spreading hatred into the Settlers so as to justify slaughtering “the Indians” who happen to be occupying that “Promised Land” (later to become Kentucky), which is rich land, good land, abundant land, but occupied by that "problem." Which is the same routine problem, over, and over, and over, and over again, where there are PEOPLE already on that "Promised Land" that Legal Criminals promise to themselves (for their own exploitation) USING their duped subjects that are subjected to the lies, threats, and violence of those same Legal Criminals doing the same old things that work time and again, over and over, and over again, and again, like a broken record or like a Business Psycho. " If you can figure out which is best, or create a better version, then please consider doing so. I have always struggled with mixing past, present, and future tense, as if my brain does not work well in the context of time. I chose the first version: I've told you the routine. It is not new. I found an example of the routine reported in that link on the U.S.S. Liberty. I found another example of the same routine in an old book titled The Lost State of Franklin where Legal Criminals solved their "Indian Problem" on the frontier with the same "Final Solution" used so often by Legal Criminals. In this example, the Legal Criminals hired very evil people to dress up as "Indians" to slaughter Settlers including babies, pregnant mothers, and toddlers – the more evil the better – and then blamed “the Indians,” spreading hatred into the Settlers so as to justify slaughtering “the Indians” who happened to be occupying that “Promised Land” (later to become Kentucky), which was rich land, good land, abundant land, but occupied by that "problem." Which is the same routine problem, over, and over, and over, and over again, where there are PEOPLE already on that "Promised Land" that Legal Criminals promise to themselves (for their own exploitation) USING their duped subjects that are subjected to the lies, threats, and violence of those same Legal Criminals doing the same old things that work time and again, over and over, and over again, and again, like a broken record or like a Business Psycho. Page 65 The following is not correct: If you have not read one of my sales pitch illustrations, then you can read the one started in this thread between fictitious John (the customer) and Jane (the salesperson). The character John is the salesperson and Jane is the customer. Actually Jane is changed to Jean. I don't know if this inaccuracy is problematic and therefore in need of editing, so your help in deciding what to do, or not do, is requested. Joe, I noticed that too when I was proofing, but my rationale was that those were the names and positions in the string. But I agree, it may be confusing to the reader of the book or it may appear that the author made an error in the book, so I have changed to completely remove the names. This option remains true to the DP string and the writing of the book. However, we could also add the names/positions corrected to reflect what they are in the book. This is my edit: If you have not read one of my sales pitch illustrations, then you can read the one started in this thread between a fictitious customer and salesperson. Page 69 "The reason Christians and Jews do things is to be because of a heart that loves God." Consider rewriting that sentence? I'm not sure about the cause of the difficulty in reading, but the message is understandable despite the difficulty in reading. Rewritten, by you, I am sure, will be, less difficulty in my reading the message, because you have a unique way with words; a talent...because.... Does this sound any better? Or is it still clunky. It it is, can you help me make it sound better? "The reason Christians and Jews are to do things is to be from a heart that loves God and people." Page 114 Counterpoint Joe The Sound of Silence can be deafening when considering all that is unsaid after “but”… The speaker says "but..." whereby the dots after but constitute silence, that which is unsaid, as if the speaker is leaving open the idea that "we know," like "an inside joke" and I can explain in detail concerning the example I have in mind. I was in my home town, on the National Congressional Ballot, at a Candidates Forum, which was recorded for Radio Broadcast on the Local Radio Station. After the show a person finds me, shakes my hand, and says that he agrees with what I had to say and then, like a dirty deal, he looks at me and says "But..." I got the feeling, and it stays with me, that we were supposed to wink at each other at that moment. Along the lines of the unspeakable dots being something along the lines of "if you cannot beat them, then we must join them," or "lo, I walk through the valley of death, and I fear no evil, for I am the most evil in that valley," or "you know, nudge, nudge, wink, wink, might does, after all, make right". So... Does the dots belong before or after the quote? Counterpoint Joe The Sound of Silence can be deafening when considering all that is unsaid after “but...”... At that time my thinking was much the same as today, wanting to find the worst of these criminals and then hold a Trial by Jury of whatever constitution could work to hold those people to accurate account at least. Not to hang people (might) but to know better, at least. So I was willing at that moment after "But..." to fill in the silence, but I was keen on listening, not dictating, to those who may volunteer to join the arduous struggle for liberty, in this animated contest of freedom, but..., there was only silence after but... I see now that the explanation was reported in the text following the point/counterpoint section. What do you think about this: Counterpoint Joe The Sound of Silence can be deafening when considering all that is unsaid after but – I also changed wording on page 115: I heard: “I agree with what you are saying, but” – silence ensued – Page 125 Joe’s Law and Joe’s Slaw both take time to understand. One is hot and spicy with radishes, or so I hear…the other provides a key to abundance. The recipe for Joe’s Law is shared below. If you want the recipe for Joe’s Slaw, you will have to ask Joe. Joe’s Law is used here to prove the point that the American public needs to create and begin using competitive forms of currency. The addition of the recipe negates the need to ask me? I liked the words I had written, that is why I didn't change them even though I had noticed them not being necessary. But I agree, it is no longer necessary to ask you and should be changed. Do you like this? Point bear Joe’s Law and Joe’s Slaw both take time to understand. One is hot and spicy with radishes, or so I hear…the other provides a key to abundance. The recipe for Joe’s Law is shared below. If you want the recipe for Joe’s Slaw, you will have look on page 151. Joe’s Law is used below to prove the point that the American public needs to create and begin using competitive forms of currency. Page 129 Instead of hearings, and even instead of court cases, the former victims would be inventing, producing, and employing forms of competitive purchasing power rather than being forced by effective deceit, and instead of being forced by effective threats of violence, and instead of being forced by effective violence targeting the competitors and forcing them to use of the one Counterfeit Money Produced by The FED. There in "forcing them to use of the one" is in need of taking out "of"? Yes, "of" should not have been there: Instead of hearings, and even instead of court cases, the former victims would be inventing, producing, and employing forms of competitive purchasing power rather than being forced by effective deceit, and instead of being forced by effective threats of violence, and instead of being forced by effective violence targeting the competitors and forcing them to use the one Counterfeit Money Produced by The FED. Page 129 ---------- I have been struggling with this part of my book, and your help is appreciated, and requested again because I have been struggling at these ideas, even now. Counterfeit power does not actually produce power, but consumes power. So The FED is actually consuming power, not producing it. With each lie – which is each unit of counterfeit money – and with each purchase that they alone make when they make money for nothing, and then when they spend the money they make for nothing but lying that is consumption. When they “loan” money that is a purchase, as they actually purchase a borrower. That is called fraud. I think a comma or something is needed to pause the idea at this point: and then when they spend the money they make for nothing but lying, that is consumption. Does it read any better? Joe, what do you think about this (I think if I had read the edit a 3rd time this paragraph would have been changed as follows. I cannot say that I would have caught the other changes that you caught.): Counterfeit power does not actually produce power, but consumes power. So The FED is actually consuming power – not producing it…with each lie, which is each unit of counterfeit money…with each purchase, which they alone make when they make money for nothing…and then each time they spend the money they make for nothing but lying, that is consumption…and when they “loan” money, it is a purchase as they actually purchase a borrower – that is called fraud. Page 145/146 ""A number of characters, of the greatest eminence in this country..." Missing in this quote is the author as such: Mr. Patrick Henry, June 9, 1788 I added the author without the "Mr." because we did not use Mr. for Henry Ford, Samuel Adams or Thomas Paine: with, yet I acknowledge that paper money would be the bane of this country. I detest it. Nothing can justify a people in resorting to it but extreme necessity. It is at rest, however, in this commonwealth. It is no longer solicited or advocated."53 —Patrick Henry, June 9, 1788 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That is one time through, and the list is much smaller. Joe, you have very good eyes! I am embarrassed that I did not catch some of those things. Four eyes are better than 2 I think that there is a whole lot of work done to produce such a small book, and I think also that much of that work is "something for nothing" because bear did most of the work, and there is yet more work to be done. Joe, it has been a pleasure to assist you in this effort. There would have been no work for bear to do if Joe had not been so diligent in teaching bear about Liberty and Political Economy. It is funny to me to look back at last year and consider some of the things in the great abyss of words between Joe and bear. I smile now at them. Some of the funniest things were bear misunderstandings. Sometimes I got really mad at you for telling me I was seeing red. Sometimes I was afraid of you because I couldn't understand how blue could change to red, and when you would hand me the videos of those Socialist Workers Party women speaking, or whatever the group was they were with. I did not go to the office today to work on finance files, but I did go to the office to reset the network files that were wiped out by the lightning storm. While I spent much of the day at home with the book work, it was truly satisfying to think of myself as a co-producer of a book. It sounds to me like you had quite a storm there. I am glad you were able to have time to do book work. I am glad it has given you a feeling of satisfaction. So, I say to myself, this is what book makers do for a living? Isn't that what you have been doing for over a decade now? In the form of dumping information packets that travel worldwide If no one tried to write a book, there would be none. And you have, and now there is almost one more! I think I like to write in red after your words in black. It is fast and easy...of course this is all trivia Are you ready for the pdf or would you like me to make additional changes?
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| Posted: Thu Aug 22nd, 2013 10:43 am |
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bear, "The reason Christians and Jews are to do things is to be from a heart that loves God and people." That sentence conveys much more to me, and it does so with an inventive or creative employment of words, in my opinion. The use of "are to do" explains the nature of the connection between the subject of authority and the authoritative power. "The reason Christians and Jews do things is to be because of a heart that loves God." That version may have been sending the same message, I didn't get it, if so. If there is yet more in the intended message, ideas or beliefs, a viewpoint, not yet conveyed, then I can't know how better to write the sentence, since I don't know what the intended message is, exactly, but I can guess. Example: "be from" My guess is such that the viewpoint considers the options of being from a good place or a bad place, and here again are the concepts of creation: where are we from? I like the sentence much better because it manages to inspire me to consider many things, whereby the other sentence was too ambiguous for me to even begin to guess the intended meaning. In fact, the more I think about that sentence, the more I like it, but then again that may merely be my imagination at work. The Sound of Silence can be deafening when considering all that is unsaid after but – I also changed wording on page 115: I heard: “I agree with what you are saying, but” – silence ensued – That is an example of being much more precise, leaving less room for any creative interpretation, so in that case it is much better for me, since the intended viewpoint is more likely to be conveyed with your welcome improvements. Joe’s Law and Joe’s Slaw both take time to understand. One is hot and spicy with radishes, or so I hear…the other provides a key to abundance. The recipe for Joe’s Law is shared below. If you want the recipe for Joe’s Slaw, you will have look on page 151. Joe’s Law is used below to prove the point that the American public needs to create and begin using competitive forms of currency. That fixes that up well. Counterfeit power does not actually produce power, but consumes power. So The FED is actually consuming power – not producing it…with each lie, which is each unit of counterfeit money…with each purchase, which they alone make when they make money for nothing…and then each time they spend the money they make for nothing but lying, that is consumption…and when they “loan” money, it is a purchase as they actually purchase a borrower – that is called fraud. That is in my opinion very good, it is a really tough idea, with much too many angles of view all focused into too small of a space, and you have managed to convey the meaning as if the reader is the thinker: along those lines. Thanks Four eyes are better than 2 Thanks, that is the message intended with the book, no? I can convey two things at this point. 1. My brother Jack, lost his wife, she died in her sleep, complications with dental surgery, or other things, and he has always been one of a kind, a loner type, but he is not, obviously, needing a competitive viewpoint to help him deal with new realities. 2. A local mom (mother of my daughters past friend: they grew apart after going to different schools) is missing, and 12 Sheriffs descend upon the 2 kids at the home of the missing mother, to steal all the communication information being used by the father to find the mother. The "law" (probably a prosecutor looking to make money on a conviction of the father) sent 1 Sheriff to "help" the father when the father reported the mother missing on the day that the mother went missing. 12 Sheriffs to steal things from 2 kids. 1 Sheriff to deliver the message that the "law" is in place to commit crimes for profit. So, I do nothing, but my wife goes to see if she can offer a spare computer to the father who had all his stuff stolen, while he was at work, by the 12 Sheriffs. The father, in this case, found a spare computer already, one that the 12 Sheriffs failed to find, despite there being 12 of them ransacking the house. So...we all have our special talents, and for most of us those talents are too well hidden, and therefore having help finding those talents may actually help. Perhaps, a long shot in my view, but perhaps the "Law" in the case of the missing mother, can find her where the father is so far unable to do so. There is hope. Are you ready for the pdf or would you like me to make additional changes? The book looks done, so send a .pdf, please, and I e-mailed the publisher yesterday to reopen the order if it was closed, but there is no response as of this moment. There are many competitive publishers if this one is no longer connectable.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 22nd, 2013 11:31 am |
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Joe, the Web Index page at the end of the book has been "haunting" me as I failed to go thru during my last 2 proofings as I considered it "done." So, this morning I started the daunting task of matching each of the foot note numbers with a number in the index. It all looked good until I started the search and find for 61. I had entered two 60's in the book instead of a 60 and a 61. Imagine that, the very last one I searched on was wrong. So now the book has a 61 instead of a 60 after your Liberty Day Challenge in the Afterword. I would have been sick if that had been found after the printing after I had consciously decided I "had already" proofed that once. Another thing that I am going to mention is that we give Thomas Paine multiple references in the Web Index page; however, we do not give references for Henry Ford's words, while we do give reference for George Bush's words. I think we talked about this a little early on and you were OK with it (as in giving the reader something to do if they want to find the links on the internet), but I want to ask you to be sure you are still good with the web index as is. I could contain more references. It would take a little work and a little renumbering, probably another complete re-read to find the things that should be referenced and then incorporating the references. In my mind, the only thing this effort would add to the book would be to make the book more "academically" accurate (as if I know anything about academic accuracy). I am good with whatever you want to do. I am bringing it up now because it would bother me if I didn't make sure you were satisfied. I will go ahead and send the pdf, but if you decide you want any more changes, just say so. I remember you telling me about your daughter's friend's mother. That is absolutely horrible. A nightmare. To have your mother and wife missing and to have 12 badges show up and ransack ones home. I am sorry for your brother as well. That is a very sad and unexpected way to loose a loved one.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 22nd, 2013 12:05 pm |
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bear, Sad news can be overwhelming, learning from those who manage under such weight is a powerful advantage. The book Index could be expanded, and so can many other avenues, so the last well found obvious error on the Index number 61, to me, sounds like the signal to step away and consider the attempt at artwork done. I think there is much more to learn with the next step, and I am almost certain that we can still find, after printing, a few more obvious errors. The idea is to have a limited first printing, as a learning experience, a marketing tool, an editorial device, an experiment, a realization, on and on. With a printed version in hand the idea, as far as I am concerned at this point, is to look ahead toward the digital form of the same book, so any errors found in the first printing can be fixed before the book goes to the digital, open, World Wide, market place. The printer company selected, so far, may not be the right one for moving onto the digital market. More things to learn? Marketable skills?
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| Posted: Thu Aug 22nd, 2013 12:08 pm |
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I see the book in e-mail at this time. Still no word back from the printer. I can send another note later in the day, to the same printer, give them some time, and then move on if they don't respond.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 22nd, 2013 12:16 pm |
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OK, Joe, that sounds very good on the Index. I am satisfied knowing that you are satisfied. Yes, power is gained when one see how others bear up under a load and then make it. That idea brings 2 scripture passages to my memory: we are o 2 Corinthians 1:3 Blessed be God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort; 4 Who comforteth us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort them which are in any trouble, by the comfort wherewith we ourselves are comforted of God. (We are to comfort others as we have been comforted. Your wife is a very practical comforter as she offers a computer. That act of kindness reminds me of my sister who knows just what to do when I am in need without me even asking. Sometimes I think she is an angel.) and this passage: Galatians 1:2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ. Burdens are easier when someone comes along side. Of course we still bear the brunt of it, but the load is lighter knowing someone else cares, and there are also those who are gifted in offering practical help. OK we are off to piano lessons. My oldest is also considering the trombone as his band instrument, or he may expand his piano talent. "Time will tell." A short phrase offered to bear by Joe in the vast abyss. You should have the files in your mail. I saw some things on the DP last week about people writing books and recommending certain services. Did you see any of that information? I have been so busy I have not been able to communicate well to you. I was also feeling abit bad about taking so long to edit and seeing another person already offering (on a DP post) their book as a free download.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 22nd, 2013 01:41 pm |
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bear, I did not see the information on the book publishing, when you have the time can you link the page?
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| Posted: Thu Aug 22nd, 2013 03:20 pm |
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Hi Joe, here is the link. http://www.dailypaul.com/283229/dp-special-my-book-stick-it-to-the-man-is-free-today?bt=1#main%20a[href*=%27B00CAQNHDE%27] It was started back in April which I didn't notice till today. The graphic was over at the side where the book selections are and I clicked on it because I was seeing red. You know the clenched fist raised in the air at the man is a Communist thing. I was going to ask you about it, but I did not want to bother you with my red eyes. Anyways, if you go down in the string abit you will see a discussion with the author started here: Just "bought" mine Submitted by MarcMadness on Wed, 04/24/2013 - 14:25. Permalink for free! Interested in how the Kindle Select giveaway works for you, I have a book of my own I'm working on to put out in the next few months. There is some talk about "Create Space" in the discussion as well as some talk about: http://www.newselfpublishing.com You may have seen this stuff back in April. Sorry was telling you it was from last week. I guess the DP Book Talk at the right side of the screen before Users on Line has a way of resurrecting posts.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 22nd, 2013 03:33 pm |
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bear, I'll check that out, still no word back from Bookmasters. I am reading through the pdf file, and it looks better as a pdf, less of the odd changes in spaces between words. I have a lunch date, and some chores, so the last effort to reconnect to Bookmasters via e-mail (one more e-mail) can be pushed to tomorrow, and then the next day I will go another route. The raised fist book may be worth checking out, I don't know if I will do so at this time.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 22nd, 2013 05:05 pm |
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Joe, the table of contents page looks bad to me in the pdf. Do you see how the numbers are not right justified. I thought I had them all looking even in the word file. Do you know how to draw dots instead of using periods to make them? (Like drawing lines, but instead it would be dots?) I wonder if that would be a solution to fix that right margin. I didn't read the pdf. Joe is smart
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| Posted: Thu Aug 22nd, 2013 05:51 pm |
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bear, If you can fix the .pdf Index page then please do, and on that note I have found 2 more problems that may be a result of opening and closing the editable word file. 1. Page 91 Money Monopoly Fraud business, what if all that POWER was exclusively spent on making Solar Panels? ow much would electricity cost per Kilowatt/Hour now? Somehow the letter "H" is missing before "ow". <---------- and I put the period after the quotation mark right here.---------------------^ 2. Page 125 Joe’s Slaw, you will have look on page 151. <------- the word "to" is missing between "have" and "look". I did not go back to see if the same things were missing since the last time I read through the final versions. It is now lunch date time, so I am not done with this latest reading. No response yet from Bookmasters.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 22nd, 2013 05:58 pm |
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OK Joe, I will fix those things. I will try to figure out about the dots. I am sorry bookmasters is not responding. I have just sent Jeff some emails without attachments that I promised in the emails, and the one with the attachment had an error in it. You may not be able to trust my work today. Or any day now that I think of the 2 errors that you just told me about.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 22nd, 2013 06:11 pm |
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Joe, the H isn't missing in my copy on page 91 of the word file. My copy looks like this: How much would electricity cost if every bomb, missile, military base overseas, solider, food, clothing, supplies shipped overseas, was turned back in time…all the way back to the decision to invade Pennsylvania by Washington in 1794…and instead of that investment in maintaining the Money Monopoly Fraud business, what if all that POWER was exclusively spent on making Solar Panels? How much would electricity cost per Kilowatt/Hour now? Am I not seeing the right thing? Oh, now I am going crazy. The word copy is fine, but when I cut and paste that text here on your forum the H is missing and I just opened the pdf and it is missing in the pdf. Is it missing in your copy of the word file that I sent with the pdf? Hmm. Maybe something is with that H. I'll mess with the doc and see if I can get it to quit disappearing. I fixed the "to" on page 125. Thank you for fixing missing bear words. I'll mess with the dots later. I have to get dinner now.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 22nd, 2013 06:15 pm |
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I rewrote the word How and it pastes correctly now. I'll How much would electricity cost if every bomb, missile, military base overseas, solider, food, clothing, supplies shipped overseas, was turned back in time…all the way back to the decision to invade Pennsylvania by Washington in 1794…and instead of that investment in maintaining the Money Monopoly Fraud business, what if all that POWER was exclusively spent on making Solar Panels? How much would electricity cost per Kilowatt/Hour now? I made a new pdf and it converted as follows: How much would electricity cost if every bomb, missile, military base overseas, solider, food, clothing, supplies shipped overseas, was turned back in time…all the way back to the decision to invade Pennsylvania by Washington in 1794…and instead of that investment in maintaining the Money Monopoly Fraud business, what if all that POWER was exclusively spent on making Solar Panels? How much would electricity cost per Kilowatt/Hour now? ----------- So, it appears that that problem is fixed. However, that causes me concern that a letter in the book did not copy and paste nor did it convert to pdf. The letter was NOT missing the word file. I think a good look at the pdf like you are doing is in order. Perhaps it is good that Bookmasters hasn't responded yet?
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| Posted: Thu Aug 22nd, 2013 07:14 pm |
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bear, It seems to me that the better printers would be the ones that have some form of help in making sure that the print is free from errors. As part of the learning process that level of help may be discovered. Lunch was fajitas and my wife said that the father of the missing wife has "lawyered up" with the help from step dad and mom. It was also understood, through a mutual friend, that the so called "police" are not there to "protect and serve" as a rule (more so the exception). My understanding is such that the Union Lawyers are also there for nefarious reasons and those who do help are the exceptions.
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