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| Posted: Wed Apr 26th, 2006 01:09 pm |
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The victors try to falsify. They can do no more. Cut and paste from here: http://www.anarchism.net/forum/board_entry.php?id=6186&page=0&category=all&order=last_answer&descasc=DESC “To be or not to be” http://www.artofeurope.com/shakespeare/sha8.htm "What's in a name? That which we call a rose By any other word would smell as sweet." http://www.enotes.com/shakespeare-quotes/276 Two self-proclaimed Communists that set in motion the ultimate horrible destruction of 20 million human beings: “Thus, in 1847, socialism was a middle-class movement, communism a working-class movement. Socialism was, on the Continent at least, "respectable"; communism was the very opposite. And as our notion, from the very beginning, was that "the emancipation of the workers must be the act of the working class itself," there could be no doubt as to which of the two names we must take. Moreover, we have, ever since, been far from repudiating it.” http://www.anu.edu.au/polsci/marx/classics/manifesto.html#Position Communism is ‘no doubt’ not socialism according to those horse’s mouths. One smells sweeter according to those ‘authorities’. “Conservative” estimate: http://www.moreorless.au.com/killers/stalin.html 20 million What does the First American Anarchist say? “If anything could be more damaging than this to Labor Reform, I think it is your proposition to “restore all existing wealth to its proper owners”! This, coming from an Anti-war-under-any-circumstances-man, defies all rational criticism. If this is reform, I refuse to be classed as a Reformer; indeed, I have for many years objected to being so classed, because my convictions are so different from what are commonly called reforms. Nor do I consent to being considered as belonging to any particular class or party: I am simply an INDIVIDUAL, and prefer to be free to approve or disapprove, as measures are presented.” Josiah Warren. http://libertarian-labyrinth...irst-american-anarchist.html How about the second American Anarchist (read: Socialist): “Protestant, Whig and Democrat, Anti-Socialist and Socialist, are terms which, in their origin, correspond to this generic division; but no sooner does a new classification take place than the parties thus formed are again subdivided, on either hand, by the ever-permeating tendency, on the one side toward freedom, emancipation, and progress, and toward law and order and immobility on the other.” “Protestantism, Democracy, and Socialism are identical in the assertion of the Supremacy of the Individual,--a dogma essentially contumacious, revolutionary, and antagonistic to the basic principles of all the older institutions of society, which make the Individual subordinate and subject to the Church, to the State, and to Society respectively. Not only is this supremacy or SOVEREIGNTY OF THE INDIVIDUAL, a common element of all three of these great modern movements, but I will make the still more sweeping assertion that it is substantially the whole of those movements. It is not merely a feature, as I have just denominated it, but the living soul itself, the vital energy, the integral essence or being of them all.” “Again, Socialism assumes every shade and variety of opinion respecting the modes of realizing its own aspirations, and, indeed, upon every other point, except one, which, when investigated, will be found to be the paramount rights of the Individual over social institutions, and the consequent demand that all existing social institutions shall be so modified that the Individual shall be in no manner subjected to them.” “What Socialism demands is the emancipation of the Individual from social bondage, by whatsoever means will effect that design, in the same manner as Protestantism demands the emancipation of the Individual from ecclesiastical bondage, and Democracy from political. Whosoever makes that demand, or labours to that end, is a Socialist. Any particular views he may entertain, distinguishing him from other Socialists, regarding practical measures, or the ultimate forms of society, are the mere specific differences, like those which divide the Protestant sects of Christendom.” Stephen Pearl Andrews http://classicalliberalism.b...cience-of-society-no_10.html “I understand all the above contradictions except for the one between a communist and a socialist anarrchist. What are the ideological differences between those two? Are those differences so serious so that we can compare the contradictory couple of the communist/socialist anarchist with the contradictory couple of the property abolitionist/capitalist anarchist?” anti-dogmatic I’m too stupid to know better so I tend to post dogmatic crap like this: "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction." Albert Einstien http://rescomp.stanford.edu/~cheshire/EinsteinQuotes.html Judgment is individual. To each their own
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| Posted: Wed Apr 26th, 2006 02:16 pm |
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As much as one might want, or wish, to create, use, and abuse falsehood - the inevitable will occur; reality imposes the truth. A name or label, a rose, is not the thing. The thing is living. The label is inert. Falsehood, a choice, can turn the past into a present confusion, a fear, and arm ‘the people’ toward a destructive future. I’ve been accused of being like Don Quixote. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Quixote I’ve been accused of being the kettle calling the pot; black. Sometimes I feel like chicken little; insane. What matters most is not my thoughts, nor my deeds, but rather the accumulated thoughts and deeds of all who endeavor to survive; if we are to survive another day. Looking back, with clear vision, the effort must include honesty, courage, and economy. Spending too much time looking back, knowing how inadequate ‘our’ history manages to define reality, is economically unreasonable; melancholy at best. Watching a horror movie, drama, a sad song, the act can inspire depression; for the sake of depression. We need to eat. We need clothes; real clothes that keep the heat in. Honesty arms us with clarity. Courage allows us to be honest; with ourselves. All that is nice or not so nice depends upon current reality; what is the cost? The cost of dishonesty and cowardice is nothing; not anything in the past. The cost is null; of no consequence whatsoever. Reality will teach. The cost will be borne; soon enough. Wouldn’t it be nice to differ the cost; for one more day? One more hour One more minute Another second Spending too much time looking ahead is as unreasonable as dwelling upon the past. The present concern is this: Economics The idea is to act rightly. The idea is to avoid acting wrongly. Acting rightly improves. Acting wrongly destroys. Acting rightly reduces the cost. Acting wrongly increases the cost. What is the cost of imagination? Executive order 1: Invest in a means by which sewer water can be consumed as fuel to make even more fuel. That is an economical executive order. Imagine such a unit being purchased by ‘the governor’. That unit begins to turn ‘the people’s’ shit into gas for their cars. The governor declares, as they so often do, that all shit will be turned into fuel and all new fuel will be issued to ‘the people’ at a cost! The people have to pay ‘the governor’ half the current price of fuel for each gallon of shit fuel (it is cleaner than gasoline according to the science). The governor is a benevolent sort. Executive order 2: All shit fuel profits will be spent exclusively on the purchase of individual shit fuel units for each person in the realm. Each new individual shit fuel unit can be purchased at half the cost of the current refrigerator (more or less depending on the cost of making new shit fuel units with shit fuel profits). Objection! OH fearless leader. Let me lick your boots; please. Might I point out, while licking your boots, that once everyone has their own shit fuel unit, then, we will receive no more profits from selling the shit fuel? Is that not killing the goose that lays the golden egg? No. I’ll still buy fuel. I’m too stupid to get one myself. Stop licking my boots. It’s disgusting. Besides this job sucks and I’d rather be Hang Gliding. Leave the problems associated with shearing the sheep up to the criminals. They know how to do that best. Not me.  http://www.magnegas.com/ http://hytechapps.com/index.html http://www.savefuel.ca/ Last edited on Wed Apr 26th, 2006 02:17 pm by Joe Kelley |
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