It's the currency - STUPID! - Good News - Good News

Home

Not logged in - Login | Register

Power Independence > Good News > Good News > It's the currency - STUPID!

Moderated by: Joe Kelley

Page: ... 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14

New Topic

Printer Friendly

It's the currency - STUPID!

Rating:

Author	Post

Posted: Wed Nov 11th, 2009 06:49 am

Quote

181^st Post

Joe Kelley
Administrator

Joined:	Mon Nov 21st, 2005
Location:	California USA
Posts:	6399
Status:	Offline
Mana:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/north/north781.html

That is Gary North describing currency (money).

What is ideal currency?

Quote

Posted: Thu Dec 10th, 2009 10:18 am

Quote

182^nd Post

Joe Kelley
Administrator

Joined:	Mon Nov 21st, 2005
Location:	California USA
Posts:	6399
Status:	Offline
Mana:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul619.html

it should be scarce

Wrong

In conclusion, Madame Speaker, allowing for competing currencies will allow market participants to choose a currency that suits their needs, rather than the needs of the government.
Ending the legal effort to destroy competition will force producers of money to supply the amount of money to an amount that is equal to the demand for it, not scarce, the right amount, becuase the amount of money is a quality of money, not too much, and not too little, so Ron Paul, why are you being stupid?

Quote

Posted: Mon Dec 14th, 2009 08:11 am

Quote

183^rd Post

Joe Kelley
Administrator

Joined:	Mon Nov 21st, 2005
Location:	California USA
Posts:	6399
Status:	Offline
Mana:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/sardi/sardi138.html

Unable to create a level competitive field for banking, the bank reform effort has now shifted away from cooperation to a master plan to take down the world’s economies and exercise complete control in the aftermath by introduction of a master plan to control banking and currency.

According to Wiseman, the plan underway now is to intentionally "take down the United States and the U.S. dollar as the stable datum of planetary finance and replace it with something called a Global Monetary Authority" that will issue a single global currency via the world’s central bankers, who in turn distribute money to depository and investment banks.

What Wiseman is talking about here is that a small group of less than a dozen central bankers are likely to rule the world via control of currency.

As confirmation of Wiseman’s claim, the call for a "global monetary authority" was echoed by a Yale professor in the Financial Times in 2008.

What looms is a single global currency, probably issued by the International Monetary Fund (IMF), which will then exert control over the world’s banks. A more complete picture of what is likely being planned is provided here and here.

The intentional take-down of the world’s economies and establishment of a world currency will be spawned out of planned chaos which would provoke the planet’s masses to beg for relief. The new currency and its new central bank will be offered up as the quickest solution to the world’s economic turmoil.

Such plans, to usher in a one-world government and a single currency, were made decades ago by elitists and central bankers, but they were waiting for world events to be engineered in a manner to create the perfect storm that would cause Americans to give up their sovereignty, and their greenbacks, in exchange for a new type of play money and subservience to another rule of law outside the U.S. Constitution. Professor Carroll Quigley described this covert plan in the 1960s in his book entitled Tragedy and Hope: A History Of The World In Our Time. Another broad description of this plan is found here.

What happens if people find a better currency to use instead of the false stuff?

Quote

Posted: Sun Dec 20th, 2009 10:52 am

Quote

184^th Post

Joe Kelley
Administrator

Joined:	Mon Nov 21st, 2005
Location:	California USA
Posts:	6399
Status:	Offline
Mana:

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/512.html

The biggest game in town, depends upon the size of the town.

http://taxretirement.com/

http://www.cafrman.com/

Quote

Posted: Sat Jan 2nd, 2010 08:50 am

Quote

185^th Post

Joe Kelley
Administrator

Joined:	Mon Nov 21st, 2005
Location:	California USA
Posts:	6399
Status:	Offline
Mana:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/north/north796.html

The idea is simple: If enough people who have money in one of the big four banks move it into smaller, more local, more traditional community banks, then collectively we, the people, will have taken a big step toward re-rigging the financial system so it becomes again the productive, stable engine for growth it's meant to be. It's neither Left nor Right – it's populism at its best.

Consider it a withdrawal tax on the big banks for the negative service they provide by consistently ignoring the public interest.

Quote

Posted: Mon Jan 4th, 2010 07:36 am

Quote

186^th Post

Joe Kelley
Administrator

Joined:	Mon Nov 21st, 2005
Location:	California USA
Posts:	6399
Status:	Offline
Mana:

http://earthblognews.blogspot.com/2009/12/introspective-look-at-future-of-america.html

The Federal Reserve, a privately and anonymously owned and controlled corporation chartered with issuing the nations currency, were given the green light by themselves to transfer to themselves and their shareholders the people's wealth in the form of their future labor.

Quote

Posted: Wed Jan 27th, 2010 10:22 am

Quote

187^th Post

Joe Kelley
Administrator

Joined:	Mon Nov 21st, 2005
Location:	California USA
Posts:	6399
Status:	Offline
Mana:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul634.html

I have not yet listened to or read the above link, the message title is very important NEWS:

Legalize Competing Currencies

Quote

Posted: Tue Feb 2nd, 2010 12:24 pm

Quote

188^th Post

Joe Kelley
Administrator

Joined:	Mon Nov 21st, 2005
Location:	California USA
Posts:	6399
Status:	Offline
Mana:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/spl2/jesse-ventura-show1.html

Jesse Ventura Takes the Soaring Interest in Conspiracy Theory to TV – and Viewers Are Flocking to It

Quote

Posted: Tue Feb 2nd, 2010 12:25 pm

Quote

189^th Post

Joe Kelley
Administrator

Joined:	Mon Nov 21st, 2005
Location:	California USA
Posts:	6399
Status:	Offline
Mana:

Accumulate/Default/Firesale

And the big one:

Debt Junkie

Quote

Posted: Thu Feb 4th, 2010 09:25 am

Quote

190^th Post

Joe Kelley
Administrator

Joined:	Mon Nov 21st, 2005
Location:	California USA
Posts:	6399
Status:	Offline
Mana:

http://sovereign-souverain.blogspot.com/2008/09/vic-beck-monopoly-game_1232.html

The viewer may mistake the above to be advocating free labor, if so then please consider reading this:

http://tmh.floonet.net/pdf/jwarren.pdf

If criminal money (legal pyramid scheme monopoly money) can be seen as a dirty baby being washed in water and if the first video link above can be seen as someone saying throw out the bath water, it may be a good idea to ask: "Do you want to throw the baby out with the bath water?"

Money isn't' bad (the baby) because money can be a tool that helps people know which human labor needs to be done and when which human labor needs to be done so as to invest human labor towards the best possible production.

Money that is designed by the people who use money to commit crimes (injure innocent people) is bad money, a dirty baby for sure.

Here is a link to a book offered at the end of the video in the first link:

The Babylonian Woe

http://www.jrbooksonline.com/PDF_Books/the_babylonian_woe.pdf

Quote

Posted: Fri Feb 5th, 2010 09:13 am

Quote

191^st Post

Joe Kelley
Administrator

Joined:	Mon Nov 21st, 2005
Location:	California USA
Posts:	6399
Status:	Offline
Mana:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/26415787/H...w-it-all-works

Considered to be censored data

The main failing with professional (and amateur) critics is that that particular vocation does not involve helping people and getting things done. It just involves tearing down things that might help, and stopping others from breaking free of Big Brother’s clutches-an occupational calling/hobby with a marginal sanity index. When you com across someone who is preoccupied with stopping this progress and saying how bad it all is, realize that the critic is a “company man,” obsessed with infecting all with the venom of statism, and does not have your best interests at heart-and likely never will. An honorable critic would bring forth another solution, i.e. another remedy for the situation at hand, rather than just sounding the general hue and cry and proclaiming that all (sheep) should stand stockstill and accept their fate as “part of life.”

Quote

Posted: Mon Feb 8th, 2010 11:03 am

Quote

192^nd Post

Joe Kelley
Administrator

Joined:	Mon Nov 21st, 2005
Location:	California USA
Posts:	6399
Status:	Offline
Mana:

http://www.augustreview.com/issues/technocracy/carbon_currency:_a_new_beginning_for_technocracy?_20100125155/

Carbon Currency?

Quote

Posted: Fri Feb 12th, 2010 03:30 pm

Quote

193^rd Post

Joe Kelley
Administrator

Joined:	Mon Nov 21st, 2005
Location:	California USA
Posts:	6399
Status:	Offline
Mana:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article24649.htm

Quote

Posted: Fri Feb 12th, 2010 04:00 pm

Quote

194^th Post

Joe Kelley
Administrator

Joined:	Mon Nov 21st, 2005
Location:	California USA
Posts:	6399
Status:	Offline
Mana:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article24654.htm

Big giveaway (fraud)

Quote

Posted: Mon Feb 15th, 2010 11:25 am

Quote

195^th Post

Joe Kelley
Administrator

Joined:	Mon Nov 21st, 2005
Location:	California USA
Posts:	6399
Status:	Offline
Mana:

http://www.downsizedc.org/blog/how-congress-can-help-the-economy

I have not read that link, yet. I may not.

What interests me about that link is the viewpoint that competitive money, the best stuff, and the least expensive stuff, will be powerful stuff, and if that link is viewing money in that way, then I'm interested.

If money is not competitive, if money is used to destroy competition, where the power of money is consumed in the process of eliminating all the better forms of money, so as to leave only the money that is used to destroy competition, then said money is not the best stuff, and certainly not the least expensive stuff.

A. The best and least expensive money (forced toward better and less expensive due to the force of competition; where consumers choose better over worse and less expensive over more expensive during the process of choosing currencies among the many competitors who produce and offer money to the consumers of money)

B. Monopoly money that pretends to be (is counterfeit) powerful money (the power of it is its ability to steal from the producers of wealth and transfer the power of money to the producers of money, the only producers of money, because all the competition has been destroyed).

I think that electricity will be the best and least costly money - eventually.

I think that the legal criminals know this; and they are offering a counterfeit version of electricity (as money) so as to maintain their power to destroy the competition.

Quote

Posted: Sat Feb 20th, 2010 11:10 am

Quote

196^th Post

Joe Kelley
Administrator

Joined:	Mon Nov 21st, 2005
Location:	California USA
Posts:	6399
Status:	Offline
Mana:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/north/north815.html

The target of the first half of the speech was Ron Paul. It was a warning against Ron Paul's bill in the House of Representatives that would authorize the Government Accountability Office to audit the FED. The House's leadership has kept the bill from coming to the floor for a vote, despite the fact that a majority of the membership has officially supported it, and despite the fact that a majority of the House Financial Services Committee voted for it, 43 to 26, in November 2009.

The FED has consistently opposed this bill. The official explanation is that this would in some way constitute interference with the FED's policy-making. This argument has never been clear. The fact that the General Accountability Office will verify the numbers in no way constitutes interference with FED policy, unless FED policy has been carried on under false numbers.

Nobody at the FED will say what is really at stake: an independent audit of the government's gold holdings, which are officially held for the government by the FED for safekeeping. If the gold is gone, or if there are legal claims against it by foreign central banks as a result of FED swaps, this would constitute fraud on a massive scale.

The real power in the FED has always been the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. In all textbook accounts of the years leading up to the Great Depression, the focus is on Benjamin Strong, the President of the New York FED. He set policy, not the Board of Governors.

The bulk of the world's gold holdings are stored in the vault of the New York FED. This includes most of the deliverable gold (99.9% fine) owned by the FED as trustee of the U.S. government's gold. The gold at Ft. Knox (probably coin melt, 90% fine) constitutes a second holding area, said to be 20% of the nation's gold. No one knows. It has not been audited since the early 1950's, not even by the private accounting firms that audit the FED on an annual rotation basis.

The FED demands secrecy. It proclaims that it pursues transparency, but it does not on any issue of substance.

Bloomberg News in November 2008 sued the Board of Governors under the Freedom of Information Act to find out which institutions received how much money in the October 2008 bailouts. The Board of Governors refused to comply on this legal basis: this would expose trade secrets of the recipient banks.

Even though a district Federal judge in August 2009 ruled that the New York FED must turn over these records, the FED refused to comply. She gave the FED five days to comply. It did nothing for six months.

Anyone who thinks that the Federal courts have operational authority over the Federal Reserve System is ignorant of the last century of American history.

Quote

Posted: Sat Feb 27th, 2010 12:21 pm

Quote

197^th Post

Joe Kelley
Administrator

Joined:	Mon Nov 21st, 2005
Location:	California USA
Posts:	6399
Status:	Offline
Mana:

http://www.woot.com/

http://www.groupon.com/welcome_to_groupon

http://www.hotwire.com/

http://blippy.com/

http://us.dubli.com/?gmt=480

All those links were linked from the following:

http://www.openforum.com/idea-hub/topics/marketing/article/the-5-most-innovative-new-online-business-models-in-2010-rohit-bhargava

The relevance of the following economic (political/economic) study is measurable:

http://tmh.floonet.net/pdf/jwarren.pdf

Quote

Posted: Fri Mar 26th, 2010 10:56 am

Quote

198^th Post

Joe Kelley
Administrator

Joined:	Mon Nov 21st, 2005
Location:	California USA
Posts:	6399
Status:	Offline
Mana:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article25078.htm

To Rob a Country, Own a Bank

Quote

Posted: Wed Apr 7th, 2010 09:41 am

Quote

199^th Post

Joe Kelley
Administrator

Joined:	Mon Nov 21st, 2005
Location:	California USA
Posts:	6399
Status:	Offline
Mana:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article25151.htm

Americans have a fundamental misunderstanding about the US/China relationship. China is not in the driver's seat and neither is the United States. There's a third party involved, but that party remains mostly invisible. And that's how they like it. Here's an excerpt from the Washington Post which explains the whole thing:

Quote

Posted: Fri May 14th, 2010 07:17 am

Quote

200^th Post

Joe Kelley
Administrator

Joined:	Mon Nov 21st, 2005
Location:	California USA
Posts:	6399
Status:	Offline
Mana:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article25437.htm

Thus these financial speculators seek out or - as has been suggested by various analysts - actually cause or precipitate financial and economic chaos. Like the Robert Duvall character in the movie “Apocalypse Now”, they “love the smell of napalm in the morning.”

http://www.outpost-of-freedom.com/JimBellAP.htm

The connection exists - even if you desire not to see it.

Quote

Current time is 03:29 am	Page: ... 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14
Power Independence > Good News > Good News > It's the currency - STUPID!	Top