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| Posted: Fri May 9th, 2008 11:37 am |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe%27s_Law The following is Joe's Law published on Wikipedia (before it was deleted): +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ To the censors who rule over human language (you guys really think you have power?): Joe's Law already exists without the focus upon modern economic application. This fact should be very clearly illustrated by the last two references offered. I am confident that the censors will ignore the facts here and go about their book burning frenzy with pure glee. Do you guys rub your hands after pressing the delete key? Again – the second to last link on this page illustrates half of Joe’s Law as it exists as math. The math part of Joe’s Law is very well explained in those links, however the viewer of those links will be ‘educated’ with a very serious case of falsehood since that is ‘half’ of the truth. Joe’s Law combines both halves of these existing facts. If the viewer does not view the last link, and the viewer views only the second to last links (8 parts), the viewer may become depressed and be infected with a feeling of imminent doom concerning over-population, economic disaster, global warming, etc. and that would be a shame. On the other hand the viewer may skip the second to last link and the viewer may view only the last link where our human problems are solved easily with a few illustrations of applying economic investments into areas where productivity makes economic sense. That would be my preference for the reader of my work; however the reader would be missing the vital part contained in the second to last link (the 8 part video presentation) where exponential growth capability is explained. The combination of exponential growth toward producing more power (through investment) eliminates (or counters) any possible down-turn of economic prosperity including those desperate situations envisioned by people claiming that we human beings are heading towards Dooms Day, over-population, global warming, recession, depression, etc. Their solution will be to eliminate, or censor, some of us. Make my day. +++++++++++++++++++++++ Joe's Law: "Power produced into a state of oversupply reaches for zero cost as purchasing power increases because power lowers the cost of production." Joe's Law is an economic discovery concerning the relationship between supply, demand, price, cost, investment, and the production of power. Joe's Law was offically discovered on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 by Joseph Thomas Kelley. This web page is both a description and an example of Joe's Law. Joe's Law is a multi part economic law based upon the cost principle and the power principle. Joe's Law therefore has many parts. Part I of Joe's Law dictates: Power reproduces itself Power invested in the creation of power produces more power out of less power. Example: One oil well, gold mine, farm, Solar Panel, or Federal Reserve Bank (Communist State Bank) produced and running will produce enough power to re-produce another example of the original. At the time when the second oil well, gold mine, farm, Solar Panel, or Communist State Bank begins producing more power the total amount of power being produced will double. Part II of Joes Law dictates: Power produced into a condition or state of oversupply will push the price of power lower and therefore power reaching for over-supply will push the cost of power to zero. Example: How much does oxygen cost? Oxygen is power. Plants produce oxygen. How much do we, as human beings, pay the plants for oxygen? How much do the plants charge the humans for the consumption of oxygen? The opposite of Joe’s Law Part II can be seen as a General Strike conducted by the Union of Earth Plant life. How much will the plants on this planet charge the humans for oxygen if the plants of this earth go on strike and stop producing and re-producing oxygen? How much will you pay for your oxygen once the supply of oxygen reaches a state of scarcity, which is the opposite of a state of abundance? Oxygen is power. Part III of Joe’s Law dictates: When power is produced into a state of over-supply and the price of power reaches for zero there will be an increase in pecuniary (money) purchasing power since power reduces the cost of production. This part of Joe’s Law may be the most difficult part to comprehend for the human life forms on the planet earth. The plant forms probably know this law better at this time in human history. That does not bode well for the chances of human life’s survival when plants are smarter than human beings. The easiest way to understand how Joe’s Law works is to first view the opposite of Joe’s Law as the supply of Oil reaches a state of scarcity and therefore the cost of living rises in almost lock step or inverse proportion, where each increase in the price of oil corresponds with an increase in the price of everything. As the price of oil doubles the price of everything doubles. As the price of oil reduces the price of everything reduces. This relationship is a natural law (Joe’s Law) and this relationship does not require the understanding of the people who are affected by this natural economic law. Plants don’t care either. For all the plants care, like the amount that the humans care, life on earth will die off for lack of care concerning true economic laws. Joe’s Law in its complete form (to be perfected if possible) reads as follows (dictates): Power produced into a state of oversupply reaches for zero cost as purchasing power increases because power lowers the cost of production. Another part of Joe's Law has to do with the currency of language. This thread intends to move Joe's Law to the first page in a Google Search for "Joe's Law". At this time 5:02 am Thursday May 8, 2008 the Google Search Engine lists Joe's Law (as described here) in third place. Joe's Law also says that new language can be moved to the top spot on the Google Search Engine. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=No+More+Legal+Criminals http://forum.atimes.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12812 http://www.restoretherepublic.com/component/option,com_fireboard/Itemid,27/func,view/catid,34/id,5808/#5808 http://www.anarchism.net/forum/board_entry.php?id=28223 http://www.groundreport.com/Media_and_Tech/Joes-Law This link is the offical discovery or IPO of Joe's Law. http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=15178.0 The policy of this propaganda rag is uncompetitive and therefore this rag will eventually wither and die in the face of true competitive data transfer mediums. The following is one example of a source that proves the validity of Joe’s Law. I will quote a sentence from the source and link the source. "With oil trading above $100/barrel, a larger portion of our national wealth is being spent on the cost of energy." http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19888.htm Joe's Law is an original discovery to which the network has already recorded the event. If, on the other hand, someone other than Joe will step forward with a record of having discovered the economic law at an earlier time then that fact will be known in time. Meanwhile this propaganda rag posing as a source of information can delete history as it is being produced. Step up the the plate people. This is fundamental research in the making right now in our time. Joe’s Law will not be linked in any book written by economic “professors” hired by powers that depend upon the scarcity of power. If the reader of this research does not understand Joe’s Law then consider where you have been and who taught you the things that you know. Long after this page is deleted our species will continue to seek a method by which our survival will be insured. That method must include the investment of power toward the production of more power. This is a fact that you the reader will now know from now on. Work on it. You will gain power. Good luck. Your enemies wish to censor this power from you. They thrive on making power scarce to you. Think woman. Think man. Read this: http://www.restoretherepublic.com/component/option,com_docman/task,doc_download/gid,101/Itemid,59/ The author who wrote that knew Joe's Law. There is no name for Joe's Law yet. The name is immaterial. The person who discovers Joe’s Law is immaterial. Power will be invested to gain more power and the cost will reduce as more power is produced. These are facts. Purchasing power increase as power cost reduces. Power does, in fact, reduce the cost of production. Connect the dots people. Next are numerous sources explaining how purchasing power works when the power of falsehood is not infecting the issue. These too are immaterial to the existence of Joe’s Law (or whatever word describes the economic relationship between power, supply, demand, price, cost, and investment. These next sources merely offer the study a base from which understanding can begin. http://tmh.floonet.net/pdf/jwarren.pdf Equitable Commerce illustrates the power of currency as currency exists without fraud or violence incorporated into the issue of currency. http://www.anarchism.net/scienceofsociety.htm The Science of Society is Equitable Commerce for Dummies. http://www.lysanderspooner.org/papercurrency.htm A New System of Paper Currency lends more data proving the facts concerning the power of currency and the relationship between supply, demand, and the effects of the powers of fraud and violence upon the issue of currency. http://www.the-portal.org/mutual_banking.htm Mutual Banking exposes something the author calls “The Parasite City” where a fraudulent and violent usurpation of the power to issue legal currency where a monopoly of that issue creates the power to charge interest for the use of currency. http://www.globalideasbank.org/site/bank/idea.php?ideaId=904 That source reports on a historical example of a currency issue where the power of currency is used to create negative interest by employing stamp script, where the value of currency depreciates in time. http://www.perfecteconomy.com/pg-parable-of-perfect-economy.html That source exposes the criminal nature of monopoly currency issue in a very precise manner leaving no room for argument without resorting to falsehood. http://www.transaction.net/money/cc/cc01.html Another source exposing the power of free market currency issue where competition works to increase quality and reduce cost which is the fundamental incentive leading to the discovery of Joe’s Law. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19888.htm "These are interesting times. With oil trading above $100/barrel, a larger portion of our national wealth is being spent on the cost of energy." When applying Joe's Law to the above described situation the end result is a realization concerning the facts of oil prices. As oil prices increase the power of producing power at home increases. Joe's Law becomes even more obviously affordable. Compare a person who does not understand Joe's Law to someone who does. Someone who does not understand Joe's Law may continue to put dollars in a 401K retirement account while someone who does understand Joe's law invests in Solar Panels and an Electric Car or two. As Joe's law works in time the person who does not understand Joe's Law pays the higher price of gasoline while the person who does understand Joe's Law produces the fuel for his car from the sun. One person pays the price while the other person earns power at home. The math calculations are easier to see as Joe's Law operates concerning the price of oil. Joe’s Law person A can buy the Solar Panels and the Electric cars even when using legal currency that costs an interest payment and still pay less per month than the non-Joe’s Law person. The savings in electricity, natural gas, and gasoline costs offset the monthly payment on the Solar Panels and the Electric Cars. The person applying Joe’s Law ends up with money in his pocket every month while the non-Joe’s Law person continues to work more and more for less and less. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-QA2rkpBSY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb3JI8F9LQQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFyOw9IgtjY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQd-VGYX3-E If the reader is inclined to participate in this endeavor to discover Joe's Law there can be realization concerning two things. Communist Banking Interest (Federal Reserve Corporation Banks) works to transfer purchasing power from those who earn it to those who run the Banks. That is item number one to realize while considering the mathematical certainties of exponential growth. Item two is something that led me to understand Joe’s Law. If you, or I, or anyone on the plant were to purchase and install one Solar Panel today, just one, that one Solar Panel will double or re-product itself in less than 10 years at today’s prices. If everyone where to do the same thing the exponential growth rate of electric power produced by the Sun increases by the number of people living (6 billion or so). There are two items to consider for you. A. Exponential growth of power from those who earn it to those who run Banking Interest monopolies of Legal Currency (Communist, Fascist, Federal Reserve type Economic Monetary Systems) B. Exponential growth of electrical power generated from sunlight (wind power, lunar or tide power, and other devises that pay for themselves over time and then reproduce themselves in time). Joe’s Law is similar to the mathematical formulas being reported in the links you are viewing (assuming the censors can view things or read). Part 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHuwgxrTKPo Part 6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3y7UlHdhAU Part 7: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyseLQVpJEI Part 8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoiiVnQadwE Before someone confuses Joe's Law to be a prediction of future doom associated with over-population and Peak-Oil please know otherwise. There is a need to understand exponential growth in power producers. When power is invested into the production of power producers (such as Solar Panels, Wind Generators, etc.) the supply of power increases it does not decrease. http://www.ted.com/talks/view/id/51 "It is cheaper to save fuel than buy fuel." That counters the non-solution oriented math lesson earlier. Last edited on Sat May 10th, 2008 10:07 am by Joe Kelley |
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| Posted: Fri May 9th, 2008 11:40 am |
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The following is Joe's Law on RTR: http://www.restoretherepublic.com/component/option,com_fireboard/Itemid,27/func,view/id,5808/catid,34/ This is both a description and an example of Joe's Law. Joe's Law is a multi part economic law based upon the cost principle and the power principle. Joe's Law therefore has many parts. Part I of Joe's Law dictates: Power reproduces itself Power invested in the creation of power produces more power out of less power. Example: One oil well, gold mine, farm, Solar Panel, or Federal Reserve Bank (Communist State Bank) produced and running will produce enough power to re-produce another example of the original. At the time when the second oil well, gold mine, farm, Solar Panel, or Communist State Bank begins producing more power the total amount of power being produced will double. Part II of Joes Law dictates: Power produced into a condition or state of oversupply will push the price of power lower and therefore power reaching for over-supply will push the cost of power to zero. Example: How much does oxygen cost? Oxygen is power. Plants produce oxygen. How much do we, as human beings, pay the plants for oxygen? How much do the plants charge the humans for the consumption of oxygen? The opposite of Joe’s Law Part II can be seen as a General Strike conducted by the Union of Earth Plant life. How much will the plants on this planet charge the humans for oxygen if the plants of this earth go on strike and stop producing and re-producing oxygen? How much will you pay for your oxygen once the supply of oxygen reaches a state of scarcity, which is the opposite of a state of abundance? Oxygen is power. Part III of Joe’s Law dictates: When power is produced into a state of over-supply and the price of power reaches for zero there will be an increase in pecuniary (money) purchasing power since power reduces the cost of production. This part of Joe’s Law may be the most difficult part to comprehend for the human life forms on the planet earth. The plant forms probably know this law better at this time in human history. That does not bode well for the chances of human life’s survival when plants are smarter than human beings. The easiest way to understand how Joe’s Law works is to first view the opposite of Joe’s Law as the supply of Oil reaches a state of scarcity and therefore the cost of living rises in almost lock step or inverse proportion, where each increase in the price of oil corresponds with an increase in the price of everything. As the price of oil doubles the price of everything doubles. As the price of oil reduces the price of everything reduces. This relationship is a natural law (Joe’s Law) and this relationship does not require the understanding of the people who are affected by this natural economic law. Plants don’t care either. For all the plants care, like the amount that the humans care, life on earth will die off for lack of care concerning true economic laws. Joe’s Law in its complete form (to be perfected if possible) reads as follows (dictates): Power produced into a state of oversupply reaches for zero cost as purchasing power increases because power lowers the cost of production. Another part of Joe's Law has to do with the currency of language. This thread intends to move Joe's Law to the first page in a Google Search for "Joe's Law". At this time 5:02 am Thursday May 8, 2008 the Google Search Engine lists Joe's Law (as described here) in third place. Joe's Law also says that new language can be moved to the top spot on the Google Search Engine. Example: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=No+More+Legal+Criminals
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| Posted: Fri May 9th, 2008 11:41 am |
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The following is Joe's Law on Anarchism. net http://www.anarchism.net/forum/board_entry.php?id=28223
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| Posted: Sat May 10th, 2008 10:37 am |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe%27s_Law Please consider adjusting that web page to a final state before it is deleted. If you invest the time and energy toward understanding how this economic law works you may be surprise and delighted by it. It is very simple. The latest addition added to that web page by me today concerns an article written about the relationship between the Oil supply and prosperity. That is a simple enough relationship for most people to comprehend since most people use gasoline to fuel up their cars and trucks. A home bound grocery shopper may have to stop at the gas station on the way to pick up food for the family and find out that less food can be purchased because more money went to pay for the gas. A business man running a fleet of trucks may have to cut costs, eliminate a few mechanics, and reduce the quality of his product since the loss of Oil increases the price he must pay to keep the trucks rolling. These are all reverses of Joe’s Law. The opposite is the grocery shopper who now generates electricity at home with her Solar Panels and she drives to the store with her electric car. The cost of the Solar Panels and the Electric Car are paid by the new electric power generated by the Solar Panels and by the savings in the cost of gasoline. She has more pocket money because her monthly bills of electricity, loans, interest, and gasoline are lower since she invested in Solar Panels and an Electric Car. She has more money to buy better food and more food. She even has more money to use for the kids education. The Fleet operator may have been running a factory with delivery trucks and his power is now increased with Solar Panels, a large Wind Generator, and hydrogen from water powered devices on his trucks to reduce his Diesel fuel costs by 20 percent. Perhaps his fleet of sales vehicles is now electric cars instead of gas guzzlers. The high cost of electricity at peak times is now a low cost of electricity during sunny days and windy days. The entrepreneur uses excess electricity during peak production hours (windy and sunny days) to pump water and do other work that can store energy for later use when the wind isn’t blowing and the sun is not shining. Excess power can even be used to produce hydrogen fuel to run a reciprocating engine attached to an electric generator. This wise entrepreneur is merely applying Joe’s Law and reducing costs by increasing power production. Compared to his competitors this entrepreneur can remain in business and flourish. His competitors continue to pay high electric costs, high gasoline costs, and high diesel costs. The competition downsizes for lack of power. Next is an article to illustrate what happens when people invest power into the creation of power stealing products or power destroying products. http://blog.washingtonpost.com/earlywarning/2008/05/a_secret_afghanistan_mission_p.html#more
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| Posted: Sat May 10th, 2008 11:30 am |
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http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/174929 Returning to the above link a quote applies to the economic law (whatever name that one may want to use to label that law):
Look, please, at this sentence: This represents the single largest contribution to America's balance-of-payments deficit, and is a leading cause for the dollar's ongoing drop in value. Step back and please re-consider what you know or think you know about our world. Borrow my method of dealing with all the complexity of our world as it exists and see the simple truth. Power is a necessary item, or supply, that ensures the survival of any living being. See this easily. What happens if the Sun stops supplying power to the human species? Think about that in context to our current situation. Will the Legal Criminals running the U.S. government fraud attack Iran for any reason at all when the Sun stops sending power to the human species? The answer is clearly no. There would be more important sources of power to steal and consume before the inevitable end of our species. Those who have power will use that power to steal and consume the remaining power needed to ensure survival. Without the Sun there is no hope for the human race. Work with me here for a little longer. Suppose the Sun kept on shining, but oxygen left the plant earth. Oxygen is another source of power. Suppose our human world suffered through an oxygen crisis. Think about that and consider where oxygen is produced. Would the U.S. Criminal government invade and secure the Amazon rain forest so as to steal the oxygen produced from that forest? Would they torture and mass murder all the indigenous population until such time as the natives signed the oxygen law? How much would the cost of a gallon of oxygen rise toward? How much oxygen could you afford to purchase with your monthly pay-check? Water is a source of power. Do you people really think that water (hydrogen and oxygen) cannot possibly fuel an automobile? What makes you believe that the world is round? If the powers that be decided to program their victims into a false belief in the health benefits of smoking tobacco would you, could you, think that such power was possible? My advice is to get off the Dooms Day Parade and think about the forces involved in the concept that I have tried to communicate to you. In desperation I’ve labeled that concept with the label: Joe’s Law. I may or may not find the power to work on applying Joe’s Law toward the Liberal/Conservative duplicity, where the legal criminals managed to divide and conquer their victims. That same duplicity goes by the names Capitalism and Socialism. How about answering a question? Is the military a conservative/capitalist entity? There is no better example of socialism than an involuntary military relationship and that relationship does not have to be called: conscription. People can be ‘inspired’ to join no their own power to discriminate right from left.
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| Posted: Sat May 10th, 2008 11:30 am |
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http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/174929 Returning to the above link a quote applies to the economic law (whatever name that one may want to use to label that law):
Look, please, at this sentence: This represents the single largest contribution to America's balance-of-payments deficit, and is a leading cause for the dollar's ongoing drop in value. Step back and please re-consider what you know or think you know about our world. Borrow my method of dealing with all the complexity of our world as it exists and see the simple truth. Power is a necessary item, or supply, that ensures the survival of any living being. See this easily. What happens if the Sun stops supplying power to the human species? Think about that in context to our current situation. Will the Legal Criminals running the U.S. government fraud attack Iran for any reason at all when the Sun stops sending power to the human species? The answer is clearly no. There would be more important sources of power to steal and consume before the inevitable end of our species. Those who have power will use that power to steal and consume the remaining power needed to ensure survival. Without the Sun there is no hope for the human race. Work with me here for a little longer. Suppose the Sun kept on shining, but oxygen left the plant earth. Oxygen is another source of power. Suppose our human world suffered through an oxygen crisis. Think about that and consider where oxygen is produced. Would the U.S. Criminal government invade and secure the Amazon rain forest so as to steal the oxygen produced from that forest? Would they torture and mass murder all the indigenous population until such time as the natives signed the oxygen law? How much would the cost of a gallon of oxygen rise toward? How much oxygen could you afford to purchase with your monthly pay-check? Water is a source of power. Do you people really think that water (hydrogen and oxygen) cannot possibly fuel an automobile? What makes you believe that the world is round? If the powers that be decided to program their victims into a false belief in the health benefits of smoking tobacco would you, could you, think that such power was possible? My advice is to get off the Dooms Day Parade and think about the forces involved in the concept that I have tried to communicate to you. In desperation I’ve labeled that concept with the label: Joe’s Law. I may or may not find the power to work on applying Joe’s Law toward the Liberal/Conservative duplicity, where the legal criminals managed to divide and conquer their victims. That same duplicity goes by the names Capitalism and Socialism. How about answering a question? Is the military a conservative/capitalist entity? There is no better example of socialism than an involuntary military relationship and that relationship does not have to be called: conscription. People can be ‘inspired’ to join no their own power to discriminate right from left.
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| Posted: Sat Jun 21st, 2008 01:58 pm |
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http://tinyurl.com/6qzdwd +++++++++++ The Saudis are widely believed to be concerned that escalating oil prices - crude hovered around $134 a barrel Thursday, nearly double what it cost a year ago - will cause a permanent drop in demand as consumers get more efficient or, worse, the global economy slows. ++++++++++++ If, in fact, oil prices are going up because there isn’t any other choice, because the costs and scarcity of oil are increasing and therefore oil cannot be sold at a lower price without giving oil away at or below cost, then the competition will gain market share – end of story. That means, if that is true, that oil prices are inevitably going to rise, then Solar Power will over-power oil power right now. On the other hand; if the price of oil is merely a speculative gamble whereby the oil suppliers are restricting and blocking the flow of oil so as to make oil scarce on purpose, then Solar Power can be made less powerful as a competitor by merely increasing the flow of oil and thereby reducing the price of oil. See? Is that as easy to see as a beautiful model in a bathing suit? How about a link? http://my.break.com/content/view.aspx?ContentID=523220
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18th, 2008 06:23 pm |
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20313.htm
Washington hit back by ensuring that Russian companies are left out in the cold from the 30 contracts for lucrative oil deals that Baghdad is awarding. It is a big blow for Russia. In February, Moscow had written off US$12 billion or 93% of Iraq's debt to Russia in a move that was widely seen as aimed to help Russian oil company LUKoil regain the Saddam Hussein-era rights to develop Iraq's giant West Qurna-2 oil field. But under US pressure, the Iraqi government is now awarding West Qurna-2 to the US's Chevron. The Iranian leader also suggested to Miller a market-sharing arrangement so that Russia and Iran could "collectively meet the demands of Europe, India and China in the gas sector". During the visit, an agreement was signed on the development of Iran's oil and gas fields by Russian companies; on Russian participation in the transfer of Iran's Caspian Sea crude oil to the Oman Sea; cooperation in the development of Iran's fabulous North Azadegan oil field; and, possible participation of Gazprom in the planned Iran-Pakistan-India gas pipeline project. Evidently, Moscow took a deliberate decision to press ahead with Iran in energy cooperation in the full glare of world publicity in complete disregard of US displeasure. Tehran loved it. Last edited on Fri Jul 18th, 2008 06:26 pm by Joe Kelley |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25th, 2008 01:42 pm |
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http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/news.htm
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| Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 03:56 am |
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20636.htm
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| Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 02:23 pm |
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=&xml=/money/2008/08/29/cnrussia129.xml
Please note another layer of hypocrisy propagated by the legal criminals. The Dollar Hegemony Corporate Criminals finance an aggressive criminal invasion of another country to secure more oil from that other country and in the process the criminal invasion of another country tortures and mass murders incalculable human life. Does anyone know each story of each person tortured and murdered by that criminal aggression and employment of weapons of mass destruction by the corporate criminals? Meanwhile the response by another legal organization defends the continued slaughter of the innocent victims, which is hardly a crime since defense against torture and mass murder is not a crime unless, of course, you happen to be torturing and mass murdering for profit and then, I suppose, you may consider it to be a crime when someone defends against your torturing and mass murdering for profit business. Next up is a cut off of power flowing from the defenders to the torturing mass murderers and the torturing mass murderers view this as being an Oil Weapon? The Kangaroo Court Inc. was ‘over the top’ the moment the ink dried on The Constitution, yet the slide down into hell after going over the top continues to ever new depths of depravity. These people are serial killers. These people are predators who torture and mass murder babies. Wake up people.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 30th, 2008 09:21 am |
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20647.htm
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| Posted: Sat Sep 6th, 2008 12:45 pm |
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Here are three links that can help illustrate Joe's Law. http://www.wavepartner.eu/page_1219330357093.html That first link is easy to understand for someone like me who has worked 25 years in the construction industry as a mechanic, equipment operator, plant operator, plant repairman, etc. The idea is sound. That method of producing electric power is extremely profitable at today’s prices of electricity. Joe’s Law defined again: Power produced into a state of oversupply will reduce the price of power while purchasing power increases because power reduces the costs of production. Now add the following link: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6157958993884349118&q=joseph+newman I don’t know if that thing actually works. I have to look into that thing with more intensity. The idea is to desalinate water and thereby make fresh water out of salt water. So the two links now show a very profitable way to use the ocean waves to generate electricity at very low costs per kilowatt/hour, combined with, a machine that uses very little electricity to pump water up and extract salt from the water. Now look at this link: http://www.championtrees.org/topsoil/SeaEnergy.htm I’ve just found these links so more work on validity is needed; however the principles involved are already being proven in practice by many people so I’m merely the messenger in this data stream. Combining all three links will combine three powerful new industries to help link the ocean based communities with other communities such as the place where I live in the Mojave Desert. Anywhere on the Planet where power is needed, clean water is needed, and food is needed, these three powerful links empower people. The last link is to link these links to the people who can make more power in their thinking process. Power produced into a state of oversupply (not scarcity) will decrease the price of power (not increase it) while purchasing power increases (not decreases) because power reduces the costs of production, and therefore reduces the price of everything (not increasing the price of everything) made with power (which is everything).
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| Posted: Sat Sep 6th, 2008 01:48 pm |
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Here are three links that can help illustrate Joe's Law. http://www.wavepartner.eu/page_1219330357093.html I have chosen to use cheap materials only, in this demonstration, because the need to bring down production costs, and make it possible to build this type of wave generation device, any where in the world, and with local materials, as car parts etc, which doesn't needs to be imported. Other materials could of course be used, and the schematics for its design of course, be different. Simple is better, it is said, and fewer parts, and bearings, will bring lower cost of building, and also repair. That first link is easy to understand for someone like me who has worked 25 years in the construction industry as a mechanic, equipment operator, plant operator, plant repairman, etc. The idea is sound. That method of producing electric power is extremely profitable at today’s prices of electricity. Joe’s Law defined again: Power produced into a state of oversupply will reduce the price of power while purchasing power increases because power reduces the costs of production. Now add the following link: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6157958993884349118&q=joseph+newman I don’t know if that thing actually works. I have to look into that thing with more intensity. The idea is to desalinate water and thereby make fresh water out of salt water. So the two links now show a very profitable way to use the ocean waves to generate electricity at very low costs per kilowatt/hour, combined with, a machine that uses very little electricity to pump water up and extract salt from the water. Now look at this link: http://www.championtrees.org/topsoil/SeaEnergy.htm I’ve just found these links so more work on validity is needed; however the principles involved are already being proven in practice by many people so I’m merely the messenger in this data stream. Combining all three links will combine three powerful new industries to help link the ocean based communities with other communities such as the place where I live in the Mojave Desert. Anywhere on the Planet where power is needed, clean water is needed, and food is needed, these three powerful links empower people. The last link is to link these links to the people who can make more power in their thinking process. Power produced into a state of oversupply (not scarcity) will decrease the price of power (not increase it) while purchasing power increases (not decreases) because power reduces the costs of production, and therefore reduces the price of everything (not increasing the price of everything) made with power (which is everything). Here is another link: http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/423.html
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| Posted: Wed Sep 10th, 2008 01:35 pm |
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20709.htm
Power produced into a state of oversupply will reduce the price of power while purchasing power increases because power reduces the cost of production.
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| Posted: Sat Sep 20th, 2008 11:29 am |
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http://mises.org/story/3060 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jipp_curve I paid to attend a Financial Markets Conference in Las Vegas in 2005, at The Venetian Hotel, and my main interest and questions concerned this subject and the power of connectivity. Those people then refused to answer my questions. Their answer then was “If you can’t beat me’, join em’.” Now they publish these observations of fact. Connectivity can be seen as the path of least resistance in an electric circuit. As soon as someone (like the Austrian legal criminals with their capitalist legal crimes) endeavors to block the free flow of currency the power pushing that currency goes around the blockage and finds a new path of connectivity. The Mises Institute people are infected by a bunch of crooks. They prey upon the weak, and they spread disinformation as a means of profit, at the expense of their powerless victims. Fortunately those lying legal criminals will eventually be consumed by their own crimes and free flowing power, to all, will gain market share. I saw the path of least resistance, where power flows to everyone and no one is censored, blocked, or excluded by legal criminals and their power to eliminate competition back before 2005. One very good explanation of how that path of least resistance gains market share exponentially is found in something called The Prisoner’s Dilemma. Look here: http://prisonersdilemma.groenefee.nl/ I have to use Mozilla Firefox to enable the Applet on that page. Work with the Applet and see how the forces of despotism (crime) work against the forces of cooperation (the path of least resistance). Once the balance of power tips in favor of cooperators, the result is the practical elimination of crime. The balance of power can tip the opposite way too, and for that to be understood clearly my suggestion to the reader is a study of the words written by Alexandr I Solzhenitsyn. Here is one of his messages: http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/literature/laureates/1970/solzhenitsyn-lecture.html And on top of this we are threatened by destruction in the fact that the physically compressed, strained world is not allowed to blend spiritually; the molecules of knowledge and sympathy are not allowed to jump over from one half to the other. This presents a rampant danger: THE SUPPRESSION OF INFORMATION between the parts of the planet. Contemporary science knows that suppression of information leads to entropy and total destruction. Suppression of information renders international signatures and agreements illusory; within a muffled zone it costs nothing to reinterpret any agreement, even simpler - to forget it, as though it had never really existed. (Orwell understood this supremely.) A muffled zone is, as it were, populated not by inhabitants of the Earth, but by an expeditionary corps from Mars; the people know nothing intelligent about the rest of the Earth and are prepared to go and trample it down in the holy conviction that they come as "liberators". I realize the possibility that the reader may not understand what I am going on about with the Austrian Economists; therefore I can explain. The Austrian Economists have two faces. One face is the face that blames all the bad things that happen in the world on The Socialists. That same face praises The Capitalists. The other face perpetrates all the bad things done by The Socialists. Here is a prime example. The finger is being pointed toward all the bad things done to suppress the free flow of information. In this case the culprit is The Dictator. The Dictator suppresses information. Look here: http://www.austrianforum.com/index.php?showforum=12 Once upon a time I had permission to post information on that public access forum, then my voice was censored by those dictators. The odd thing (that I cannot explain and that I cannot gain access to find the answer from the people who perpetrate this form of censorship) is the fact that my work remains published, on that site. Here is an example of my work: http://www.austrianforum.com/index.php?showtopic=253 That is the work that led to Joe’s Law. Here is more: http://www.austrianforum.com/index.php?showtopic=364 In that thread the personal attacks become obvious. I just wanted to point out that your diagrams, taken together, form some sort of abstract hellscape that doesn't really communicate much other than a sense of panic and chaos among stick figures. It's like an impressionist's take on economics. Reading things like "Money is energy" indicates that your "gift" extends beyond MS-Paint, but honestly there's only so much of this a person can take without the assistance of narcotics. Here is where the hammer fell down upon me (The Iron Fist): http://www.austrianforum.com/index.php?showtopic=1057 In that thread my effort was to communicate with another forum member. The moderators stepped in. I don’t think it is a coincidence that, at that time, I was also posting links to expose the crimes of 911 where the U.S. government legal criminals murdered thousands of people in New York City on September 11, 2001. The personal attacks began with this: The link is to a kook site which, among other things, advocates the elimination of interest rates. Care to comment more fully on your intent in posting the link, and your thoughts on the content of that site? I did care to expand upon the accurate observations of how “interest” is, in fact, a flow of power from those who produce power to those who steal it by fraud or violence, or “interest” is merely a cost paid by a high risk borrower to an insurance fund. I had much to say on that subject, and I still do. The dictator voice becomes ever louder during the process by which the dictator censors the unwelcome information. Here: That was not an attack: it was an order. As a mod, I'm one of the persons you implicitly accused of wishing to censor or silence you. If you blather enough about how "the mods will probably lock the thread and shut me up, etc., etc.," then a mod--possibly I--will indeed take some sort of action. Thus you are encouraged to stow it. Here: Let me say this plainly, so as to leave no doubt. Never ask that question again. Completely and utterly drop that subject. If you have something to say about economics, say it. Clear? Soon after that exchange my I.P. address was blocked to that site. How are those two faced dictators any different than the situation they publish concerning China and the leaders in China endeavoring to censor unwelcome information? The answer is clear, very clear, there is no difference in principle, the difference is a matter of degree. Last edited on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 12:03 pm by Joe Kelley |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 4th, 2008 04:55 pm |
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Anyone, Anyone can create an economic boom, prosperity, and anyone can maintain a steady rate of increase in wealth, at any time, and in any place, on the planet earth, when anyone has control of productive power. Curious readers are skeptical, but reasonable, due to the nature of curiosity, as experience rewards the interest in knowing a more accurate perception. In other words, the proof is in the pudding. If a reader finds a new method of saving time and energy the reader will test the new way out in real time with personal power employed toward that new productive venture. A very simple example, for any interested reader, is a new connection to a new source of money where the cost of the money is lower. Who would pay 10 percent interest when 1 percent interest is offered by a competitor? No one, not even the least interested person, will pay more for less on purpose. Faced with a choice between a mortgage interest loan of 100,000 dollars at 10 percent interest, on one hand, and another mortgage interest loan for 200,000 dollars at 1 percent interest on the other hand, the choice is a no brainer. Someone without a brain would still choose more for less. No one would choose less for more, don’t be silly. Readers know this and that is why readers read. Reading is the method by which more is found for less. The alternative to reading is trial and error. Reading connects all the trials and all the errors into one big pool of knowledge where all the readers can swim around and find more for less sooner rather than too late. Is it too late for anyone, anywhere, to begin creating a personal economic boom where that individual produces more, and more, for less, and less? The answer is clearly no. It is not too late and despite all the doom and gloom that currently infects human society, the method by which personal economic prosperity can be earned remains right where it has always been, and it remains readily available for use at any time, and anywhere, on the planet earth. Productive power is abundant and the method by which productive power creates more productive power is the method by which human beings prosper. Why are people failing to see the vast possibilities and opportunities offered to us in our environment here on earth? What is holding our species back, and behind, in our progress toward civilized prosperity for us and for our progeny? We lack command of abundant power. We do not lack the power. Power is abundant. Abundant power can be employed in the process of creating more power. Power invested toward the creation of more power increases the availability of abundant power. Greater availability of abundant power increases the power available to create even more power. Readers do not see this – we could. The power that is necessary to know how power is abundant and to know how power can be invested into the creation of more power is the missing element that empowers economic bust. The reader may suffer from ignorance concerning these facts that are now offered. A reader may also suffer from something worse than ignorance, much worse. There is a very serious destructive power flowing through human society, currently, in human time. That destructive power has a name, but the name is not important. It is important to know the destructive nature of the power because the destructive power blocks each person from access to abundant productive power. Falsehood is the abundant destructive power that currently infects human society. Here is where the reader can employ the power of knowledge to confirm any doubts concerning the method by which human beings will prosper while our supposed betters, our supposed leaders, and our supposed law givers destroy human society in America and around the world. These legal criminals cause booms and busts, here and there, at will; because they know and employ the power you can now know. While the legal criminals destroy the American economy the reader of this expose’ can know how that destructive power can be ignored in favor of investments in productive power. All that is needed is one more person, one more reader, gaining command of productive power and passing that knowledge on to two more readers who then gain command of productive power. In time the power commanded by the legal criminals (falsehood) will grow weaker while the power of honest and productive self-employment will grow stronger. The reader can know, now, how honest currency is the power shared by honest and productive people, and this type of currency (honest) is the power that people can command to gain access to abundant productive power. These words exemplify honest currency in the form of text. The text is merely an intersection on the productive path. These words merely point, like a road sign, toward a path on which abundant power is found. Each reader must then employ the productive power on this path, invest that power, and create more power along the way on this path. Abundant power then becomes more abundant. More abundant power is invested to create even more abundant power, on the way, on this path, as more and more people gain greater control of power until all thoughts of powerlessness are removed from current thought among honest productive people. Time limits the number of words that the reader can read here, so the path being described now must jump ahead of the many individual paths traveled by many individual readers. The path being described now will describe a future common path traveled by many honest and productive individuals and the method of describing that path involves the creation and maintenance of a new and powerful honest currency. Please know that honest currency is being created and employed by honest and productive people, this is merely words to the wise. Keep an eye out for honest currency in all forms, not just the form that I describe. The form that this new and powerful honest currency will be is not set in stone by me. The form I offer is meant to illustrate the principles and the interests shared by honest productive people as we earn our own prosperity and as we bypass all the falsehood that has been injected into our social networks by legal criminals. Two new products will suffice to illustrate this new path that we take in our work to create more and more power, invest power, and earn prosperity for posterity. These two products are monetary in nature, however it is more easily understood when these two products are seen, and labeled, as currency. It is even more accurate to view these two new products as honest forms of currency. I must now expend some time and effort (power) to explain both products briefly and then the reader must employ personal power to conceptualize the significant changes that will occur when honest currency replaces the false currency that now infects our calamitous existence in America. It is also important to know that I do not intend to support new forms of dishonest currency such as the Amero dollar, or any other false currency offered by legal criminals. Product one is a form of credit. It is not accurate to view this product as a form of debt. Product one is a form of credit. Product one is designed to honor honest people who have earned a high credit rating by their honest and productive industry where every loan borrowed has been paid back on time. Someone who has historically paid back every loan, on time, is someone who has earned credit – not debt. Product one is made available to everyone who has proven to be willing and able to pay back every cent of money that is borrowed. Product one is designed to replace false currency. Product one is designed to compete against the dishonest and fraudulent Dollar offered by The Federal Reserve Corporation monetary supply business. Product one is designed to bail out every honest and productive person in America. Product one is designed to capture all the banking business in America, as soon as humanly possible. Product one is designed to offer honest and productive people more for less. Product one is not designed to generate any more power. Product two is designed to generate more power. Product one is designed to supply America with the money demanded by honest and productive Americans. You can now know how that can be done by product one if you have an interest in knowing how the supply of money demanded by honest and productive Americans can be supplied by product one, instead of fraudulent and criminal money. Product one is a home and business property mortgage loan that does not cost the borrower any interest payments and there are no transaction fees that are charged to honest and productive Americans who have a history of good credit. Each loan amount will be new money and each loan of new money will be backed by the property title of each new loan. The new money will go from the new legal supplier of the new money to the home owner and then the current mortgage owner receives the new money. The home title goes to the honest and productive American who earned good, honest, credit. The whole loan amount pays off the old interest mortgage. The home and business owner then pays off the entire new loan amount, without interest, to the new money supplier with monthly payments of legal money earned by the honest and productive home and business owner. When the last payment is paid to the new money supplier the home is no longer backing the currency that circulates in society, however the new money supplier can design new money backed by other commodities such as gold, silver, platinum, and a basket of foreign currencies since the new money will be legal tender and designed by specific, rather than ambiguous, law. The new currency supplier will accept dollars or new currency as payment based upon accurate exchange rates. If the Dollar value plummets while the new money value increases, then honest and productive people will demand payment in either more dollars or less of the new currency, just like everyone else. The idea is to pit honest currency against fraudulent currency in open and honest competition. Who will accept less for more? Who will demand the dishonest money instead of the honest currency? Think about it. If the productive and honest American with good credit fails to pay of this new loan the title of the property goes to the new money supplier. The old mortgage owner has been paid off and the question of where and what happens to that money once the old mortgage owner spends or invests that money remains to be known. It is know that the old mortgage company will not collect any more interest from customers who purchase product number one unless customers default on new money loans and therefore their credit ratings lower. It is vital at this time to understand how the new money will be good enough and valuable enough to be used to pay off taxes; in other words: the new money will be legal money. The new honest currency is designed to compete with the old fraudulent money on a level playing field. The fraudulent money and the new honest currency are both designed to be legal tender and therefore both can be used to pay taxes based upon their actual relative value or their current rate of exchange. If the fraudulent money value plummets while the new honest currency value remains steady, then it will take more fraudulent money to pay the same tax debt compared to the higher value honest currency. The reader must use the power of reason at this time. What will happen when product one hits the shelf next to all those other products on the shelf in the current banking business? Honest currency will compete against Euros, Yuan, and Yen as well as honest currency competing against The Federal Reserve Fraud money. Any honest and productive American, with good credit, who currently pays 6 percent interest, a 6 percent debt added to the loan principle, can turn in that loan for a new loan where no interest is charged and no transaction fee is charged. Product one is a clear example of a choice between more for less compared to less for more. Which honest and productive American will choose less for more? How many honest and productive American workers, business owners, employers, and home owners will turn down a no interest home and business credit mortgage in favor of their current debt based mortgage at 6 percent interest – and higher? Product one is designed to supply the demand for honest and productive currency. People who demand honest and productive currency will get it. People who demand fraudulent money can have fraudulent money if they want it. Product two is designed to generate an income. Product two is a one percent interest loan to any honest and productive American, with good credit, who desires to employ power toward the creation of more power at home and at the business property. Product two is designed to generate income for the borrower and the supplier of product two. Product two is offered for specific purchases only. The design of product two is specific to specific purchases. Product two is a loan offered at one percent interest because the purchase will generate more than one percent greater power. In order for the reader to understand what is meant by the design of product two it is vital for the reader to consider a few examples of the things that product two is designed to purchase. Product two is designed to purchase proven investments only. One example is the solar panel. Another example is the electric car. I pick those two examples for a specific reason and any inventive, honest, and productive American can pick their own proven examples of purchases that have been proven to produce more power than the power required for the purchase. If the reader is at all confused, please, stop reading and return to this lengthy expose’ when your mind has cleared up some; when you return to this text this text will go on to exemplify what is meant when a person purchases something that generates more power than the power needed for the purchase. If one solar panel is priced at 1,000 dollars and that solar panel will produce 1,000 dollars worth of electricity in 5 years, then that solar panel is paid off in 5 years – simple. It is not too complicated to then see how that solar panel will continue to produce for 20 more years. The price of the solar panel is 1000 dollars while the output of the solar panel is 1,000 dollars every 5 years for a total of 5,000 dollars worth of electric power - more for less. The price is 1,000 dollars. The output of production is worth 5,000 dollars. The purchase is a purchase that falls into the design feature of the monetary loan product number two because the product purchased produces more that the cost of the product. Product 2 is designed to cause a given amount of power to be invested into the creation of more power. Product 1 was meant to gain market share. Product two generates an income. Product 1 is a no interest loan to qualified borrowers. Product two charges the borrower a one percent simple interest debt that is based upon the proven credit of the borrower and that debt is designed to create an income for the supplier of the loan. The supplier of the loan must also make an income. One percent is a huge amount of value when dealing with large numbers. Who will turn down the opportunity to employ power to create more power? The borrower keeps a portion of the new income and pays a portion of new income to the supplier of the new honest currency loan. The power produced is electricity when the loan is invested for the purchase of a solar panel. When the product purchased will produce more than one percent extra power, like a solar panel, the borrower keeps the extra power income and the borrower earns enough to pay the interest charged by the supplier of honest currency. In the case of the solar panel the purchase generates enough power to pay off the principle in five years and the purchase generates enough power to pay off the one percent interest charge too. The solar panel keeps on producing more power many years after the entire loan principle and the entire loan interest is paid off in full. In the case of the product 2 loans being used for the production of electricity by solar panels purchases the total supply of power increases as more sunlight is converted into productive electric power. The second example offered to the reader is an electric car purchase. This is another example of what product 2 is designed to produce. Product 2 is designed to produce products that produce more power than the power needed to produce the product. If the product cannot be proven to produce more power than the power required to produce the product, then the product does not qualify for a product 2 loan. Does an electric car produce more power than the cost of the product? This is easy to see when comparing the cost of running an electric car compared to the cost of running a petroleum powered car. The electric car costs about 2 cents per mile compared to the cost of 10 cents per mile for a petroleum powered car. If the person applying for a product 2 loan produces electric power at home with solar panels, then the lower cost of electricity can lower than 2 cents per mile cost of running the electric car. If the person applying for a product 2 loan commutes from work to home and back, with a gas guzzling car today, and today that loan applicant pays about 100 dollars per week for gasoline, then that person can save 80 dollars per week and prove the investment of purchasing an electric car according to the design of the product 2 loan. If the loan applicant is also purchasing solar panels with the same loan, then the electric car can prove to save 90 dollars per week, or more, once the Solar Panels are paid for by the new production of electric power. Product one and Product two are designed together to cover all the needs of modern business demands for honest currency, except fraudulent business demands. If the reader cannot conceive of this simple solution to a problem that is made complex by design (made false by design), then the reader ought to consider why. Why could this simple solution be so easily misunderstood? Who owns the power of honest currency? Who owns the reader’s mind? Make no mistake, what you have just read is an example of propaganda, you have the power to decide if it is true or false.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 8th, 2008 11:57 am |
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http://www.livescience.com/environment/081006-energy-costs.html
With the right state and federal incentives applied, however, well-located wind turbines can pay for themselves within 15 years, or half their useful life. Depending on where it's situated, the average system will cost about a few thousand dollars — $10,000 for really large systems — but installation, permits and piping costs can quickly add up the further the water or electricity needs to travel from the generator to your home, especially if the terrain makes pipelines difficult to install. The break-even period? As little as a couple of years, depending on your energy usage. While a geothermal system costs more than a conventional oil- or natural-gas-dependent system, the cost of running heat pumps is actually 30 to 40 percent less than a conventional system that runs fossil fuel, meaning you'll be able to save enough on reduced heating and cooling bills to break even in two to 10 years. How about these: http://www.ecogeek.org/content/view/1476/ http://gas2.org/2008/03/29/first-algae-biodiesel-plant-goes-online-april-1-2008/ http://www.wavepartner.eu/page_1219330357093.html
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| Posted: Wed Oct 8th, 2008 12:40 pm |
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http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle20956.htm ? When frauds lie, who trusts that it is a lie?
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| Posted: Sat Oct 18th, 2008 12:05 pm |
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-11128_3-10066974-54.html
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