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U.S. Soldiers Stage Mutiny, Refuse Orders in Iraq Fearing They Would Commit Massacre in Revenge for IED Attack

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The following letter was written by a soldier in Iraq to 100 random voters in each of the 50 states. It was sent from Iraq as a plea for American voters to understand what our troops are feeling. The letter is unedited from what he wrote. I, the person who owns this domain and setup the site, did NOT write this and do not personally know the author or his full name.

 

Dear Voter,


My name is Joe. I am currently serving in my second deployment to Iraq as an Army officer. The biggest differences between this deployment and my last one are:
  • The location (within Iraq)
  • The Job (much busier : less free time/sleep)
  • The duration (last deployment was 12 months, this one is 15)
I am sure you are wondering why some random soldier in Iraq would write you a letter... there are several reasons, but the primary one will be obvious by the end. First I'll tell you a little about myself.

I'm 26 years old, I've been married for almost 7 years, and I have a son and a daughter in elementary school. I grew up in Georgia, but I live in Colorado Springs now. I come from a long line of military officers, so I was sort of “destined” to serve. Although I only have 3 ½ years in the Army, I've been wearing the uniform for 12 years (JROTC & ROTC). I have a degree in computer science and I'm a music & movie enthusiast.

Now that you know a little about me, I'd like to inform you on what Iraq is really like.

Iraq is a war-torn country in political and engineering shambles. When the U.S. invaded Iraq in 2003, the intent was to remove Saddam Hussein from power. Once that was done, the military then targeted all Ba'athists (members of Saddam's political party) because they were assumed to be loyal to Saddam. The problem with this “eradication” was the Ba'athists were the people who managed Iraq's infrastructure. So our targeting caused the collapse of all of their water, power, sewage, oil, and transportation capabilities!

Also, because we dismantled their military, there was nobody to guard all of the thousands of artillery rounds and bullets that we stock-piled from Saddam's Army. Where do you think the insurgents & terrorists got all of their weapons, ammo, and IED material to attack U.S. troops???

These are second-order effects of the U.S. policy to intervene in foreign countries. While our intentions might be good, Americans would be better off minding our own business and using diplomacy and trade to influence other nations.

Considering that President Bush and Vice President Cheney have both stated that Iraq had nothing to do with the attacks on September 11th, 2001, why did we invade Iraq? And why do we have a majority of our military concentrated in Iraq??

Iraqis (and most middle-easterners in general) are used to having a dictator. The cultures of that region have a long history of authoritarian rule. Iraq had a dictator before Saddam Hussein, and they will likely resort to a dictatorship when we leave. They don't care about democracy, they just want peace. (This is not my conclusion, those are the words of the Iraqis I've talked to during my time here.) And the truest assessment that nearly all politicians, generals, diplomats and bureaucrats agree on is:

You cannot find a military solution to a diplomatic/political problem.
“The surge is working.” In recent months, attacks have gone down. Many soldiers are shocked at how long it has been since they hit an IED in certain locations, or received incoming mortar rounds hit their camp. While there is a correlation (more troops, less attacks) there is no causation. Also, most of the influx of troops have been placed in Baghdad… this increase in volume simply displaced the “terrorists” and insurgents into areas surrounding Baghdad! Since the surge began, there have been more innocent, non-combatant Iraqis killed and more soldiers have died. We have had 3 suicides in 2 weeks!! Do you think the Army attracts suicidal people? Or perhaps the cost of carrying out U.S. foreign policy is making soldiers suicidal (15 month deployments, deployment extensions, stop-loss program, etc.)...

How can anyone justify the deaths of thousands of people with optimistic predictions based on premature statistics?!?

The truth is: the country is still war-torn, people are still attacking U.S. troops and our military is still occupying their country. Studies have proven that the primary reason for suicide (terrorist) attacks is occupation. The U.S. grows a lot of corn and wheat – What would Americans do if a foreign country that clearly consumes massive amounts of corn & wheat invaded the United States to free Americans from the tyrannical regime of President Bush, and set up bases around America??! Would you believe that they only invaded to remove Bush from power? Wouldn't We Fight THEM?!?!

Most American Soldiers, Sailors, Marines, and Airmen signed their contract because they wanted to defend the United States. We all swore an oath to protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. How can we defend America and protect her Constitution from the other side of the world?!


We can't.


That is why I implore you to help keep America worth fighting for...

Even if it is something as simple as voting in your state's primary election, calling your senator to voice your opposition to a bill, or telling your friends and family to vote and contact their senators.

There is a candidate who is running for President that breaks the typical mold of a corrupt politician. Not one single time, in his 17 years in Congress, has he voted to raise taxes. He served his country as a flight surgeon on the Air Force, he is a medical doctor who has been married for ever 50 years, and he never votes “yes” on legislation unless it is expressly permitted by the Constitution.

There is a candidate who is running for President that backs up his words with actions. Every stance he takes is backed by legislation he has proposed in Congress. He opposed invading Iraq because the method Congress wanted to use was unconstitutional. Even though he did not want to invade a country that posed no threat to the U.S., he still proposed a Declaration of War on Iraq just so the invasion would be Constitutional.

He has the largest following of real people across the world, yet he is selectively marginalized by main-stream media. He recently broke the record for most donations received in a single day (over $6 Million!), and somehow he is still proclaimed to be “a long shot.”

Most importantly: He is the only candidate running for President who voices genuine, consistent concern for the Constitution, the economy, foreign policy, and Liberty.


That candidate is RON PAUL.


The facts I've mentioned are the reasons that Ron Paul has more campaign donations from Active Duty Military and Veterans than any other candidate. The current conditions in Iraq are the unpredicted effects of a flawed foreign policy. The most likely (and noticeable) result of a Ron Paul presidency will be a more secure and prosperous America, because the military would defend the U.S. instead of being used as a world police force, and the money not spent overseas would dramatically improve America's economy.

The reason that I hold Ron Paul in such high esteem is not because he is experienced, or eloquent, or because he seems “like he can beat Hillary.” I support Ron Paul because I swore an oath to defend the Constitution, and Ron Paul is the only one running for President who cares about it. (It's also likely he is the only one who reads it!)

It is Ron Paul's message of freedom that draws thousands of people to hear him speak and donate their time & money to his campaign.

Ron Paul is a proven man of principle who doesn't cater to special interest groups. His number one concern is the very thing that made America such a desired place to live:

FREEDOM

I am open to answer any questions you may have about Iraq, Ron Paul, my life, history, politics, religion, philosophy, quantum theory, or whatever else you'd like to know.

I will vote for Ron Paul in Colorado's primary election this February. I hope you will find out when your state primary election is and vote for Ron Paul too. But if you choose to vote for someone else, I will still respect you for choosing to vote… it's more than many Americans do. I just hope that you are prepared to live with the second and third-order effects of your decision.

But please Do Something to help keep Americans free, so that soldiers like me have something worth fighting for.

Thank you for taking the time to read this letter.

In Liberty,

Captain Joe


“Government that is big enough to supply you with everything you need, is big enough to take everything you have.” – Thomas Jefferson

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http://captainj0e.wordpress.com/2007/12/22/day-11-open-letter-to-americans/
 

Note: Mike Gravel and Dennis Kucinich are running for president and they support "rule of law" too. Even that is a back handed (false) way of saying that Mike Gravel and Dennis Kucinich also (as does Ron Paul) defend liberty - on purpose.

Mike Gravel ended the Vietnam War DRAFT! That was done by him.

Dennis Kucinich has begun Impeachment proceedings as The Constitution dictates to be 'the rule of law'.

Why not give credit for good when credit is earned?

The fight is and aways will be one where evil people deceive and destroy and good people try to minimize that destruction.

If you think not, then, why do you think not; it seems to me that, perhaps, you may be fooled.

It could be me - of course. I am not able to go to Iraq (or Iran) and defend liberty. I don't think that I would - even under torture. It is false. It is evil. Why participate?

What is the pay off?

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"...we fear that the designation of information as classified in some cases [brought forth by Sibel Edmonds] serves to protect the executive branch against embarrassing revelations and full accountability... Releasing declassified versions of these reports, or at least portions or summaries, would serve the public’s interest, increase transparency, promote effectiveness and efficiency at the FBI, and facilitate Congressional oversight."   U.S. Senators Patrick Leahy (D-VT) and Charles Grassley (R-IA) in a Letter to Attorney General John Ashcroft


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Now as capitalism enters its final stage, a nearly seamless political transition to fascism is well underway in the United States. The mass media, the electoral machinery, and both major political parties are under corporate control. The trappings of bourgeois democracy are a hindrance on profits and so they are being shredded. The Constitution and its Bill of Rights are being rendered meaningless by plans for perpetual war, by presidential signing statements and the theory of the unitary executive, extraordinary rendition, government surveillance programs and the like. Programs based on democratic principles like the public schools, Social Security, and Medicare are being starved to death. Separate and parallel Internet and military forces are being constructed along with internment camps and the legal construct for a martial law declaration. Blackwater is the growing private military force of the ruling class, protecting them in Baghdad and patrolling the streets of New Orleans for them now. Because there are too many sons and daughters of the working class in the US military it can not be trusted by the bourgeoisie when the order is given to attack the American people. Likely the two militaries will one day face each other in combat.
 

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19030.htm

 

Note: Is it possible that the honorable, honest, and good people on both 'sides' will defend against the legal criminals on both 'sides'?

 

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How do you oppose something so destructive, so inhumane, so violent – so massive that it destroys an entire country with its incursion, and threatens to destroy its country of origin as well? How do you oppose something as hateful and angry as war and have any expectation of succeeding, when that opposition is simply a superficial public relations fiasco with no substance behind the banners, posters, puppets, television ads and interview slander?

 

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The numbers are staggering: 11,407 U.S. soldiers have been discharged for drug abuse after serving in Iraq or Afghanistan; 6,159 have been kicked out for "discreditable incidents"; 6,436 have been discharged for "commission of a serious offense"; 2,246 have been discharged for "the good of the service"; and 3,365 have been discharged for "personality disorder," according to Pentagon data I obtained through a Freedom of Information Act request. Among those dishonorably discharged after honorably serving in Iraq is Specialist Shaun Manuel who returned from a tour in Iraq to find his newborn son dead of a rare genetic disease called Muscular Spinal Atrophy. Manuel said the situation was made even more painful when his superiors ordered him to begin training for a second tour in Iraq.

 

If someone can see into the future accurately enough to allow time and energy sufficient to avoid something horrible, then, what is left but to avoid it? What inspires a person to choose the greater of two evils – on purpose?

 

See? I mean - if two roads ahead are both bad (horrible) and one road is more difficult (but less horrible), then, why would someone choose the worst (even if it is harder)?

 

Possible answer:

 

Someone cannot see into the future accruately enough to allow time and energy suffcent to avoid the less difficult and horrible path; because - the more difficult path does not yet appear to be less horrible in the end.

 

Is it more or less difficult to reject torture and mass murder for profit when so many other people are led to those actions by legal criminals?

 

 

 

 

 

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But Turner says it wasn't his choice to be encouraged to do it from higher ranking officers. He and three other veterans speaking out Saturday at the Different Drummer Cafe in Watertown said committing war crimes is not only the way things go, but it's unofficial policy.

 

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I am placing that link here as contrast like a white dot on a black background or visa versa - see?

 

 

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The four-day event will bring together veterans from across the country to testify about their experiences in Iraq and Afghanistan - and present video and photographic evidence. In addition, there will be panels of scholars, veterans, journalists, and other specialists to give context to the testimony. These panels will cover everything from the history of the GI resistance movement to the fight for veterans' health benefits and support.

When: Thursday March 13 to Sunday March 16



http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19501.htm

10/03/08 "ICH" -- - Get ready for the horrible, honest reality of the American occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan like you haven’t heard it before. For four days, from March 13 through March 16, hundreds of U.S. veterans of the two wars will descend on Washington and testify in the “Winter Soldier” hearings about what they really did while they were serving their country in Iraq. And their experiences aren’t pretty.


 

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Iraq, Afghanistan veterans to reveal war atrocities and 'some pretty fucked-up shit'



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Published: Thursday March 13, 2008

 

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No, if there is one thing an old oil man and drunkard like Dickey would hate it would be the humiliation of being photographed having illicit sex with a penguin.  Or a spotted owl.  In pumps.  It would put all this sabre rattling and threats of wiping out Iran like Hiroshima or Nagasaki into some actual perspective.

It's okay to be mentally ill, Dickey.  Your mother was.  The sin is not doing something about it.  The sin is creating flashburns of Iranian children on their school playgrounds, or blowing everyone but the truly guilty into red mist simply because you haven't known how to pleasure a real woman in, what, six or seven heart surgeries?

I hope Mr. Cheney lives long enough to be brought to the gallows in his wheelchair. 

 

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The Bush Administration began this war by Federalizing the National Guard to assign aspects of the occupation cost to State budgets. Now Vermont, Pennsylvania, and New Jersey have spoken out against this unjust and misleading policy of war.

This is also an opportunity to keep U.S. soldiers at home where they belong. If successful, States who petition to de-Federalize the guard would have the ultimate say over where those troops are deployed.

 

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Afghanistan is lost for the United States and its allies. To use Kipling's term, 'We are watching NATO bleed to death on the Afghan plains.' But what are we going to do. There are 20 million Pashtuns; are we going to invade? We don't have enough troops to even form a constabulary that would control the country. The disaster occurred at the beginning. The fools that run our country thought that a few hundreds CIA officers and a few hundred special forces officers could take a country the size of Texas and hold it, were quite literally fools. And now we are paying the price."

Scheuer added, "We are closer to defeat in Afghanistan than Iraq at the moment."

"The first step in rethinking Afghan strategy is to think seriously about the lessons of a recent opinion survey of ordinary Taliban fighters commissioned by the Toronto Globe and Mail. Two results are striking: the widespread lack of any strong expression of allegiance to Mullah Omar and the Taliban leadership; and the reasons given by most for joining the Taliban -- namely, the presence of western troops in Afghanistan. The deaths of relatives or neighbors at the hands of those forces was also stated by many as a motive. This raises the question of whether Afghanistan is not becoming a sort of surreal hunting estate, in which the US and Nato breed the very “terrorists” they then track down. "
That is another example of exponential growth rates.

In November, voters will be asked to pick one of the two pro-war candidates. McCain has made his position clear; his focus is on Iraq. Now it is up to Obama to point out why it's more acceptable to kill a man who is fighting for his country in Afghanistan than it is in Iraq. If he can't answer that question, then he deserves to lose.

 

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Support the truth.

Fight the war on falsehood.

 

 

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