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He was one of a handful of Republicans to vote in 2002 against giving President Bush the authority to use military force in Iraq, contending that only Congress had the power to declare war. At times, he has voted against funds for the military.

 

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In coming weeks I plan to introduce legislation that urges the administration to heed the advice of the Iraq Study Group. Dialogue and discussion should replace inflammatory rhetoric and confrontation in our Middle East policy, if we truly seek to defeat violent extremism and terrorism.




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 President Paul? 




January 25, 2007 


Paul isn’t flamboyant or defiant about it; his style is quiet and reasonable, not combative. Being a maverick isn’t a pose for him. It’s a matter of conscience and logic.

 

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Since the big three candidates, McCain, Romney, and Giuliani, are getting all the coverage, Will’s decision to cover a dark horse candidate like Rep. Paul is interesting.






Will vs. Paul on the Constitutional Limits of Government





by Dan Phillips


Will barely musters a constitutional defense for big government. It's as if he doesn’t feel he needs to. He writes, "Even before the Founders’ generation passed from the scene, the government was slipping off the leash that Madison said – and Paul says – the Constitution puts on it." This is unfortunately an unequivocally true statement. So it was. But isn’t that really evidence for the anti-Federalist’s case that the Constitution’s safeguards were insufficient, instead of proof that the Founders didn’t really mean it. Will seems to suggest that all the Founders had their fingers crossed. "Ha, Ha. Fooled you." (An anti-Federalist case can and has been made that the Founders really were up to no good – Patrick Henry’s "I smell a rat!" – but that is not the case Will is making. Will is making the hyper-Federalist case.)


 This is very important:

Will likely finds frequent conservative appeals to the Constitution and limited government insincere and hypocritical, which they no doubt are. Perhaps in that sense Will’s candor is refreshing. I think Will would be happy if Rep. Paul, who actually means what he says, sufficiently embarrasses his "conservative" colleagues out of their frequent invocations of the Constitution when they recognize the true implications of strictly following that document. Let us hope and pray that Rep. Paul’s candidacy has the opposite effect. That instead it embarrasses some "conservatives" into re-adopting the limits contained in a document their stated guiding philosophy used to consider more than a rhetorical flourish.


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If Berger’s argument from the history of the language the Philadelphia Convention was using were not enough, we have corroboration of this definition from the monarchist-nationalists themselves.

Ahhh...how can you tell if a politician is lying?

Answer: Their mouths are open.

Now - the idea in the article is to support the truth, I think, and that is my point.

 

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"Group rights" is an oxymoron.

 

Ron Paul is precious.

 

 

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Ron and I first met at a 1982 monetary conference in Washington, DC. Two years later he invited me with other newsletter writers to tour the Federal Reserve, the U.S. Treasury and the Securities and Exchange Commission. In a Paul presidency, the downsizing of government would begin in earnest, two of the three institutions we toured nearly a quarter of century ago would be abolished, and the U.S. Treasury would probably be responsible for maintaining the integrity of a gold-backed dollar. In short, in a Paul presidency, Washington, DC would be less populated, the budget would shrink substantially, taxes would decline markedly, the dollar would be stronger and no American troops would be policing the world.

 

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The link is there for anyone to read.

I want to state here and now that my current viewpoint appraises Ron Paul as the least evil in this race to the throne.

I’m running myself as a write in candidate so my vote won’t be wasted on anyone else. For those who feel the need to vote and for those who are searching for accurate data to help them make the least injurious choice, for those individuals, I can offer my current thoughts.

Ron Paul will shackle government down to basics and that is a huge leap forward no matter how severe that road may appear to harm some people. If you must feel sorrow, then, look at your loved ones first. Liberty is not cheap.


 

 

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Certainly it’s true that Mr. Bernanke can drastically affect the economy at the drop of a hat, simply by making decisions about the money supply and interest rates. But why do members of Congress assume this is good? Why do we accept without objection that a small group of people on the Federal Reserve Board wields so much power over our economic well-being? Is centralized, monopoly control over our money even compatible with a supposedly free-market economy?

 

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Congress bears the greater blame for this fiasco. It reneged on its responsibility to declare or not declare war. It transferred this decision-making power to the executive branch, and gave open sanction to anything the president did. In fact the founders diligently tried to prevent the executive from possessing this power, granting it to Congress alone in Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution.

 

Certainly we are doing better with her than when we tried to impose our will by force.

 

Do I hear lady Liberty screaming in agony?

 

 

 

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Fighting over there has nothing to do with preserving freedoms here at home.

 

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A candidate such as Paul would bring a different perspective to the debate, he added.

 

Accurate?

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Ron Paul did not just tap dance around invoking Ronald Reagan's name and touching briefly and diplomatically upon Republican talking points in responses carefully scripted by spin doctors. Ron Paul stopped the superficial lip service to Republican "issues" and openly addressed the bare truth in brazen and honest language. Why did ABC not give him even a nod for finally going off-script, as we wish a politician would do, to address what we are all thinking? Is ABC so out of touch with what the people want to see addressed as issues? Is ABC bowing to political pressure to blandly showcase a choreographed play to imagined voters' concerns as determined by some poll? Is ABC just clueless as to what real political and philosophical debate actually entails? ABC needs to do some soul-searching to determine what their basic principles and bottom line are. ABC has failed to even rise to the level of marginalizing truth by excluding mention of Ron Paul's stunning and disquieting evocation of bare and stark reality, something the other politicians carefully avoided for fear of making voters uncomfortable, and potentially losing votes. Give us truth, Ron Paul, and tell us about it, ABC; otherwise, what are you there for?

 

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Ron Paul Wins MSNBC Debate Poll
 

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The above link may be your only chance to have an accurate accounting of your vote.

When I added my vote Ron Paul was winning by 10%.

This type of voting reform is transparent. Think people; what is the opposite of transparent?

 

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Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, who barely registers in public opinion polls of the Republican presidential field, won last Thursday night's debate.
 

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On the light side?

Who expressed a need to end the mass murder (war)?

 

 

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Since that post was written, ABC has begun blocking all comments about Ron Paul.

The same media establishment that bought the Iraq propaganda package and then claimed to be oh-so-sorry is now trying to keep out of the limelight the one presidential contender who has actually bucked the establishment and does something other than parrot government/media slogans. But that’s what the mainstream media’s purpose is: to define the nature of our political debate and make sure no fundamental questions are ever raised.


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That is published on May 11.

What is the definition of irony?

Above is an article exposing how wrong it is to discredit Ron Paul as a potential holder of the office of president?

Why, then, does the article IGNORE Kucinich?

I'm asking.

Kucinich is actively, legally, trying to end the reign of terror perpetrated by the current regime. Ron Paul does, or does not, support impeachment? This is a constitutional issue. This is the rule of law applied against people who are, without any doubt whatsoever, guilty of mass murder and self-admitted TORTURE.

What is more criminal than mass murder and torture?

Must someone be caught in the process of exterminating the human species to become a criminal in the eyes of these people?

What is the definition of irony?


 

 

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In the meantime, though, Democrats need to step up to their responsibility.

 

What?

Is ignorance a choice?

The stated reason for impeaching Dick instead of George, in the document starting the impeachment, BY A PERSON IN CONGRESS, is to end the crimes sooner.

Does Ron Paul support impeachment or not?

I want to know.

 

 

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Results 1 - 10 of about 708,000 for Ron paul on impeachment.

 

http://impeachforpeace.org/impeach_bush_blog/?p=606

March 12 2007

Do you support impeachment of George W. Bush

Ron Paul:

"No I don't, at this time, support impeachment but..."

My question:

How can the current terrorist criminals be stopped soonest?

Please consider this:

http://kucinich.house.gov/SpotlightIssues/documents.htm

Imagine that you are a member of congress.

http://kucinich.house.gov/UploadedFiles/int4.pdf

Who can stop the mass murder and torture?

The Constitution places the responsibility and authority to determine weather to impeach and to draft articles of impeachment in the hands of the House of Representatives.

http://kucinich.house.gov/UploadedFiles/int3.pdf

Resolution

 

Impeaching Richard B. Cheney, Vice President of the United States, for high crimes and misdemeanors.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=hr110-333

This bill is in the first stage of the legislative process where the bill is considered in committee and may undergo significant changes in markup sessions. The bill has been referred to the following committees:

My question is: Why spend one minute doing something other than trying to stop the mass murder and torture?

I think like this:

If you are in the position to be able to stop it, then, the person's being tortured and killed depend upon you to stop the torturers from torturing and the killers from killing.

This is beyond the question of military force. This is beyond military orders that are followed by soldiers in battle.

This is an understanding concerning who has the power to end torture and mass murder.

Who has the power to end torture and mass murder?

What does impeaching Vice President Dick do?

How quickly can this be done?

Who is standing in the way?

How about some inspirational music just in case your not yet inspired to help end the torture and the mass murder?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJK6ApCcKPo

No not that:

This:

http://www.bobdylan.com/songs/times.html

Come senators, congressmen
Please heed the call
Don't stand in the doorway
Don't block up the hall
For he that gets hurt
Will be he who has stalled
There's a battle outside
And it is ragin'.
It'll soon shake your windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'.


You don't see the torture?

You don't see the murder?

You are not looking. That is OK?

Who can stop it?
 

 

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I was opposed to the creation of a new Homeland Security Department from the beginning. Only in Washington would anyone call the creation of an additional layer of bureaucracy on top of already bloated bureaucracies “streamlining.” Only in Washington would anyone believe that a bigger, more centralized federal government means more efficiency.

 

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Why not talk about that?


http://www.ccmep.org/us_bombing_watch.html

After the bombing of Iraq, danger grows of a US ground assault

By Barry Grey

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December 30, 1998



 

 

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/worldview/story/0,11581,845725,00.html

As for the first question: Why are we fighting and opposing you? The answer is very simple:
(1) Because you attacked us and continue to attack us.

 

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Martin: Paul's 9/11 explanation deserves to be debated

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But who was right – Rudy or Ron?

By Patrick J. Buchanan:


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Even now after five years of a disastrous policy, Republicans cannot accept the facts about the US invasion and failed occupation of Iraq. At the recent “debate” between Republican presidential candidates in South Carolina, US Representative Ron Paul dared to tell the truth. Rep. Paul said that our difficulties in the Middle East are “blowback” from our government’s determined attempts to exercise hegemony over the Middle East.

The Democratic Party is complicit in the Republican Party’s crimes, but unlike the Republican electorate, the Democratic electorate does not support the occupation, the domestic police state measures, and the Bush administration’s decision to send more combat troops to Iraq. Although none of the current frontrunners for the Democratic presidential nomination are independent of the special interests that benefit from the war, it might still be possible for a Democrat to emerge who will represent the Democratic electorate instead of the special interests.

 

What?

Which planet am I on?

Can Kucinich be invisible?

Can someone actually choose to be ignorant?

http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/kucinich_impeach_cheney

Ohio Congressman Dennis Kucinich has filed articles of impeachment against Vice President Dick Cheney, citing the “very real” possibility that the U.S. would wage war with Iran and accusing Cheney of “fabricat[ing] intelligence on weapons of mass destruction to justify the Iraq war,” according to the Los Angeles Times.

Ron Paul is NOT FOR IMPEACHMENT.

That is in Ron Paul's own published words.

Dennis Kucinich has ALREADY filed articles of impeachment choosing to go after Cheney first rather than having to impeach Cheney second. The trial of Cheney will certainly ruin Bush.

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Kucinich_video_asks_if_its_time_0319.html

Last Thursday, as RAW STORY reported, Kucinich declared during a speech on the House floor that "impeachment may well be the only remedy which remains to stop a war of aggression against Iran." The 2004 presidential candidate, who is running again in 2008, told RAW STORY that his House floor statement "speaks for itself."

It may be too late to go after Cheney?

Meanwhile Ron Paul is sitting this one out!?

It is NOT UP TO CONGRESS it is the responsibility of the MEMBERS OF CONGRESS.

 

 

 

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Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes.

 

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Why the attempts to suppress, distort, and misrepresent? What are they so scared of?

 

Civil liberties that were suspended could be restored. A sense of balance and harmony could return to our lives.

 

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And while his campaign staff finds imaginative ways to measure his momentum - one recent release reported that Paul had become "the third most-mentioned person in the blogosphere, beating out Paris Hilton" - more conventional measures show him way back in the pack.
 

http://www.newsday.com/news/columnists/ny-oppin245227239may24,0,6192639.column?coll=ny-news-columnists

Convention can't stop revolution.

http://www.exterminatingangel.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=203&Itemid=118

Growth is bottom up, not top down, so capitalism is at its most vibrant when wealth is most evenly distributed. The problem with treating the economy like a game of Monopoly is that when one person controls everything, the game is over and you start again. In real life this stage is called revolution.

 

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Since printing paper money is nothing short of counterfeiting, the issuer of the international currency must always be the country with the military might to guarantee control over the system.

 

Attacking Ron Paul is, at least, time in the sunlight.

Why is Kucinich not even in the sunlight (Ron Paul's)?

 

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Could Ron Paul Win in New Hampshire?
Friday, May 25, 2007 - FreeMarketNews.com

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When I clicked on the Poll the results was 93% for Ron Paul.

10:40 AM May 27 2007

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Rudy's attack against Ron Paul in the debate was a classic example of that kind of politics, a Rovian masterstroke. The wizened Paul, a grandfather seventeen times over who is running for the Republican nomination at least 100 years too late, was making a simple isolationist argument, suggesting that our lengthy involvement in Middle Eastern affairs -- in particular our bombing of Iraq in the 1990s -- was part of the terrorists' rationale in attacking us.

Though a controversial statement for a Republican politician to make, it was hardly refutable from a factual standpoint -- after all, Osama bin Laden himself cited America's treatment of Iraq in his 1996 declaration of war. Giuliani surely knew this, but he jumped all over Paul anyway, demanding that Paul take his comment back. "I don't think I've ever heard that before," he hissed, "and I've heard some pretty absurd explanations for September 11th."

 

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Ron Paul:

"high stakes"

 
"The Chinese can bring us to our knees..."



 


 


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Despite what Bush may have you believe there can be no such thing as a “War on Terrorism”.  Ron Paul has clearly pointed out that “terrorism is a tactic”.

You cannot have a War on a tactic.  It is similar to saying lets have a “war on shooting”.  Lets go get them evil shooters around the World.

 

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The growing demand by the American people for us to leave Iraq prompts the naysayers to predict disaster in the Middle East if we do. Of course, these merchants of fear are the same ones who predicted that invading and occupying Iraq would be a slam-dunk operation; that we would be welcomed as liberators, and oil revenues would pay for the operation with minimal loss of American lives.

 

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One of my favorite quotations in this regard comes from a person whose identity I do not recall: “a man has a moral duty to not allow his children to live under tyranny.”

 

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He knows the promises made to the people, and the assurances that Virginia’s ratifiers inserted into that state’s ratification instrument. And he shows that Jefferson and his allies were faithful to those principles and promises, and that the so-called Federalists and their present-day apologists (which includes just about everybody) were not.
I add this here for good reason. The Constitution was and remains a point of focus between those who intend to legalize crime and those who intend to fight those who intend to legalize crime.

Let there be no mistake whatsoever as to which side Ron Paul, or anyone, is on.

Failure to know friend from foe is fundamental to the survival of our species.

You have been warned. You cannot claim ignorance.

 

 

 

 

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VIDEO: Ron Paul on Colbert Report 6/13/07

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"Hey you're winning in the polls"



I do not know how many readers (anyone really) remember what happened during the 92 Presidential race. Ross Perot became a force that was accelerating becoming exponentially more powerful - like a snow ball rolling down hill or an atomic reaction reaching critical mass.

Ross Perot received a phone call (or so the story went) threatening his daughter (or family) at which time Ross Perot quit running.

I just did a Google Search to check my memory:


http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/v/schlundlawsuit.htm



47. George Bush Sr. and the CIA under the directions of Nelson and David Rockefeller had planned on using third and fourth parties to split the vote when it became necessary to do so to win the presidential elections of the United States. Starting in 1992, Claimant Schlund briefed the FBI on the CIA files of the people that would run these political parties for the CIA. Claimant Schlund briefed the FBI that he had read Ross Perot's CIA file and that Ross Perot worked for the Bush family and the CIA and was in the presidential election to split the vote. Claimant Schlund believes he stopped this and caused Ross Perot to drop out of the race by hand delivering a letter to the FBI in New Orleans, Louisiana. Claimant Schlund believes that the letter was dated June 24, 1992. Soon after, Ross Perot dropped out of the presidential race. Claimant Schlund believes that Ross Perot's paranoia then prevented him from fulfilling his job of splitting the vote and fixing the presidential election of the United States. This resulted in the people electing William Clinton to the presidency of the United States.

 

So...the point being - there may be more to this phenomenon that meets the eye.

I have heard Ron Paul speak - in person. In my estimate there are no better candidates capable of fulfilling the role of 'Benevolent Dictator' or President - whatever.

What does continue to puzzle me is the reluctance of Ron Paul to join in the impeachment process of those criminals now torturing and murdering innocent people on a massive scale.

Que bono?

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"Self-written search warrant"

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This Act may be cited as the `Federal Reserve Board Abolition Act'.

 

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The Iowa Crime of '07

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Clearly, language threatening to wipe a nation or a group of people off the map is to be condemned by all civilized people.

 

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"I'll talk to him (Kucinich) about it (911).

September?

 

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Neo - Conned


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As you may know, Congressman Ron Paul was excluded from the Presidential Candidates Forum sponsored by Iowans for Tax Relief and Iowa Christian Alliance that is scheduled to take place that same day.
Although we would have liked to have participated, we see a wonderful opportunity to demonstrate to Iowa voters, the broad base of support for Dr. Paul.

So, right after the Presidential Forum, starting at 4:30 PM, Dr. Paul will hold his own rally, where he will share his positive and compelling message for America.

Our rally will be held at the same building as the Presidential Forum. We will be at the Hy-Vee Hall, Room C, Iowa Events Center, 730 Third Street, Des Moines, Iowa.

Please come out to show your support.

Details about the event can be found here: http://eventful.com/events/E0-001-005011869-5

 

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The Ron Paul revolution has already succeeded. It has brought a lot of attention to the libertarian ideas of peace and a limited government. It has also put a strain on the mass media, who can no longer deliver any information they want in any manner they please. Just like a real revolution the Ron Paul revolution has become a movement everyone wants to join. The real test for the Ron Paul revolution is not the victory over the GOP nomination, the question is how to win the presidency from a Hillary-Obama ticket, which will undoubtedly be seen as a dream team by the academia, the mass media, the special interest groups, the bureaucrats and the politicians.
 

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Before the U.S. House of Representatives on July 12, 2007

 

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He said he does not support network neutrality, the concept that telecommunications companies should be restricted from controlling broadband access to the detriment of Web companies like Google, nor does he support tech-friendly immigration reforms in Congress recently.


 



I think Ron Paul is misinformed about Net Neutrality.

The conflict exists between those who wish to exclude and those who wish to liberate. Those who wish to exclude are people who have access to the State in order to protect their monopoly of power over internet content. Those who wish to include are those who wish to ensure that those who wish to exclude do not have access to the State as a means of excluding.

In other words; if the companies wanting to maintain their power to exclude content, at their discretion, on the internet were not petitioning the State for protection or security of their power to exclude content, then, there would be no such thing as Net Neutrality - it would be left to purely market forces.

If I am right and Ron Paul is still against Net Neutrality, then, Ron Paul contradicts his stated principle of liberty.

 
I perceive the need to reiterate: Proponents of Net Neutrality simply want the State to keep their hands off the internet and DO NOT ENFORCE CENSORSHIP.

In other words; leave the people with the power to censor themselves.

Think about this, please, if anyone is commiting a form of crime on the interent, then, a Net Neutral internet leaves the evidence of those crimes trackable. This is the same old truth versus the same old falacy of crime and punishment. Punishing innocent people for crimes commited by guilty people is merely a means of punishming innocent people. Criminals do not abide by laws; by definition.

Is that hard to understand? Criminals do not abide by laws.

I can look further into Net Neutrality; however - I don't think this issue deserves much attention because censorship of the internet (by the State) isn't going to happen. I think it is impossible. I think internet censorship by the STATE is as impossible as making time go backwards or reassembling all the molecules blown apart during the Atomic Explosions in Japan in 1945.


 

 

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CAMP PENDLETON, Calif. (AP) — A Marine corporal testifying in a court-martial said Marines in his unit began routinely beating Iraqis after officers ordered them to "crank up the violence level."
Cpl. Saul H. Lopezromo testified Saturday at the murder trial of Cpl. Trent D. Thomas.

"We were told to crank up the violence level," said Lopezromo, testifying for the defense.

When a juror asked for further explanation, Lopezromo said: "We beat people, sir."

Why is this being reported here?

http://ronpauldelaware.wordpress.com/2007/07/16/military-favors-ron-paul-over-mccain/

What conclusions can be drawn from this surprising, exciting information? One might jump to the conclusion that the troops are tired and demoralized and angry to be fighting in the desert sand, and willing to leap on the only Republican candidate who wants an immediate end to the war. But that’s an insufficient explanation, since veterans favor Ron Paul as well.


Our military forces have a strong tradition of valorization and an implicit belief that they have served to protect the freedom of private citizens in the United States. So profound is this belief that it ranks as the #1 reason that veterans and active duty say they joined (even though education ranks as the #1 reason prior to enlistment).


This culture of pride in service particularly to safeguard American liberties and freedoms — regardless of whether it is true or not — disinclines those in service to contribute to candidates like Romney and Giuliani who want to expand Executive power and increase spying on Americans. This is why Ron Paul and John McCain are the clearest front-runners in terms of contributions. Well, that and the fact that McCain was a Captain in the Navy and Ron Paul was a flight surgeon.


 

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Once they hear him, Ron Paul's supporters are very passionate about his message. A search of Internet "blogs" shows people writing zealously about him. Nothing could be more thrilling than to see an 18-year-old excited about the election process, shouting out support for Ron Paul, begging to hear more information about the Federal Reserve and its implications for the country. Through his campaign, Ron Paul is teaching many the benefits of limited government. There should be no surprise that his message is so well received; it is the one taught to us by Thomas Jefferson, George Washington and other founding fathers. It is the message of liberty, freedom, with the basis of a republic, not a democracy. We have been lied to so often, and our Constitution ripped apart at the seams, that when a person comes along speaking basic truths and principles, it awakens a part of us buried for so long.

 

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The Ron Paul Presidential Campaign, A Self-Organizing Complex System

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A new form of damage control?

A. Shoot the messenger

B. Seek greater accuracy

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B. Seek greater accuracy

At the bottom of the Dirt on Ron Paul page I found a comments page.

I commented:

"The reasons for this are fairly obvious."

 

I've heard Ron Paul speak years ago and there were no indications then of any racism in his being. I was also unaware of any dishonesty in Ron Paul.

 

The link to the racist quotes origin is broke. Fix it or please remove the baseless claim.

 

As to the 911 Conspiracy Theory: It is no wonder that the link to Ron Paul concerning the 911 Consipracy Theory is broke because any air time on that subject will continue to expose the lack of facts that will some day be public knowledge.

 

As to the Spam. Baseless claims are examples of spam.

My comment included a working link:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/latulippe/latulippe80.html



I know what is at stake.

I am not one of the fools.

I may not be very smart.

Some things are obvious even to me.

 

 

 

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The new face of the freedom movement is Texas Congressman Ron Paul. The credit mostly goes to the Internet for having brought this principled politician into the light.

 

"The Internet" is a working example of anarchy. It is false to attribute human characteristics to "The Internet" as if "The Internet" can take or receive credit for something.

"The Internet" is a physical connection between human beings much like the air we breath is a physical connection between human beings. The human beings breathing the air and using "The Internet" can take and receive credit. The air keeps people alive. The Internet connects people and makes it possible to measure specific things about "The People".

Ron Paul has been around for many years. I know this to be true from my own experience. Way back before Waco and before Ross Perot I heard about Ron Paul during my investigations into human social networking (social science or social study).

Ron Paul was and remains an accurate voice among a torrent of lies; like a barely audible scream in the distance during a camp out in the forest at night.

If people move toward the truth, seeking accurate information, they will move closer to Ron Paul simply because all roads lead to the truth. This should be simple to understand and if it is not simple, then, you may be on a road that is going away or parallel to the road that originates from the truth.

One of my first encounters with that voice of reason passed on by Ron Paul occurred on a long forgotten link having possible connections with AM or FM radio, The John Birch Society, or possibly a minor media new paper or pamphlet. The message carried by that forgotten link escapes my specific memory; however - what is not forgotten is the contrast of Ron Paul’s message then and now. Then, as now, the message by Ron Paul is greatly contrasted by all the other messages, or noise, that proliferates in media of all kinds, again, the scream in the distance similar to a distant light in an otherwise pitch black night.

An example of the contrast then, as now, can be found in history since the same message continues now. Rather than spend too much time going back with specific precision in mind I'll simply try to remember my life and focus before Waco and Ross Perot. I remember joining the John Birch Society and reading many books on the subject of STATE CRIME. I use caps and those two words for a reason that was not reasonable to me way back then. I've since allowed my dues to lapse in the John Birch Society. At that time the supply of information exposing STATE CRIME was scarce and it took some effort to find it. While looking I came across more than one example of STATE CRIME documentary or commentary from the same source i.e. Ron Paul. Finding out, as time went by, that Ron Paul was, in fact, a Congressman created a very stark contrast itself. Here was a guy admitting to STATE CRIME while he held office in THE STATE. Most of the noise, the major media, the falsehoods, the confidence schemes, the false propaganda, the forest at night, and the darkness can be categorized as apologists for THE STATE and all the STATE CRIME that goes with it. Not Ron Paul. Not then. Not now.

If agents of THE STATE are committing crimes, then, Ron Paul makes no apology for it.

Chances are that my first exposures to Ron Paul's message, as they continue to be, were details concerning the questionable legitimacy of the Federal Reserve System of currency.

Back in the day, before Waco and Ross Perot, a person mentioning the possible illegitimacy of THE DOLLAR was automatically demonized as a Tin Hat Conspiracy Theorist; and these are just words.

Suffering through the onslaught cannot be explained with words. You must go through something similar to understand it. While fighting the unwanted excess baggage associated with 'going against the grain' the 'finding out' about another person who suffers the same, or more, is a reinforcement of legitimacy.

Picture this if you can. Out from the wilderness in the dark of night is a voice screaming liberty. You move toward that voice and that light and find a Doctor in Congress and the scream becomes a perfect harmony called Liberty the close you move in toward the source. Ron Paul isn't the source. He is merely standing closer to it.

What rubs off isn't generated by Ron Paul. Truth isn't credited to anyone in particular. Either you move closer to it or further away from it.

If you can catch up to Ron Paul, then, see if you can agree with me. I may be deluding myself. If so, then, my delusion has been going on for many years and my delusion is spreading. Many of the people connected by THE INTERNET are being infected with the same delusion. Perhaps it is like moths to a flame rather than concerned people seeking accurate facts going toward the truth.

My ability to know the difference remains a question to be answered even if the majority does not agree.

I can bank on Ron Paul seeing the same thing, not with words, simply seeing the same need for improvement toward more perfect information; reaching for truth and rejecting knowable falsehood.

How can anyone trust anyone else without a long time of reinforcing experience without any unresolved data refuting the focus and discipline toward truth and away from falsehood?

The gauntlet, the test, is not on the horizon. The test has already past and is passing now. It is the same test - one step after another step.

Which way is the right way?

We can all use some help. None of us require help taking a false step. Not even the worst of us.


 

 

 

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Half way in is Ron Paul. I picked up on a term he used: "Newsletters".

That reminded me. I first heard of Ron Paul many years ago when reading a "Newsletter".

His message has not changed.


They own the big banks and print the money

 

It is the stupid currency.

We use it.

Why?

No MORE LEGAL CRIMINALS.

Interest rates go up.

Right. This occurs when the money supply is controlled by organized crime. This is exactly the same thing as any other energy product - even drugs.

A drug pusher goes to the local high school and gives away free drugs; no interest charge at all.

Kids become energized to live for drugs. They end up paying a huge cost to the pusher later on.

It is that simple.

Does that mean that drugs are bad?

Drugs are not bad. Organized crime is not bad. Criminal conduct is bad. People injure other people on purpose.

There isn't anything bad about currency.

Currency is the medium by which human economy gains power.

When the power is governed by crimninals, then, the power can be used to destroy the many for the enrichment of the few.

Interest rates, usury, merely accounts the rate of wealth flowing from the many to the few. Interest rates are not bad.

How many people know better than to loan wealth (currency) to people who will not pay it back?

How many people know how to loan a potential risky borrower a very small amount of money and consider that loan as a cost spent to find out if that person can be trusted?

How many people consider loaning money as a means of becoming super rich and super powerful?

If you do not ask and answer these questions, then, you may always depend upon others for solutions. Your dependence may very well be your ultimate demise. You have been hooked. You are the victims of currency pushers.

Currency government is a very simple matter of calculation. Any complications are designed as the means of gaining at your expense - false advertizment.

Perfect information is an easy matter to accomplish with any currency accounting system. Look into e-gold.

Do look. Do not stick your head into the sand another minute.

Live free. Free your conscience the right way. Know who the criminals are and do not feed them.

No more legal criminals.

Intrest payments that are transfered to organized criminals furnish those criminals with the wealth they cannot create and the wealth they use to enslave you.

1. Open bids for at least 2 more currency buisnesses supplying and maintaining new currency that can be used to pay taxes.

2. First time no interest loans are made available to any person for ownership of the title of their primary residence.

3. Anyone not paying off their first time home morgage loans will lose credit ratings and this is already done - stupid.

4. Second loans at 1 or 2 percent interest are made available for anyone entering any business involved in new power production from alternate energy sources.

5. Pay the buisnesses winnining the new currency bids with the 1 or 2 percent interest payments flowing from the new power being generated.

It is the STUPID currency - stupid.

OK, so, I could be the stupid one. Why has no one challenged a new currency system with words?

Ignorance.

 
OK - toward the end Ron Paul states something very profound:

I will use my own words to communcate what the message was as I understand it.

If we do our job and concentrate the power of government on the maintenance of liberty, then, we will have no trouble with the maintenance of wealth.

I whole heartedly agree; however - it cannot be ignored that currency must exist within society in some form or the inefficencies and costs of commerce without currency will be enormous and a sudden removal of currency in society is the same thing as removing roads or even removing oxygen or water from society.

The dollar, as poor as it is from a standpoint of liberty, is much better than no currency at all.

What then is Ron Paul's plans for replacing the dollar and the Federal Reserve?

If the free market is free to create any currency, then, something must be done to indentify and account for tax payments. If 'dollars' and only dollars contiue to be the 'offical' currency, then, the powers that control 'dollars' will continue to control society and government.

The Name of the door may now me: The Federal Reserve.

So long as the National Government requires tax payments in DOLLARS and no other 'legal' currency so long will the power remain in the hands behind the doors and the people working those hands can afford to change the sign on the door.

 

 


 

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Think twice before thrusting this Nation into a war without merit.

 

 

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I'm stamping the few dollars I see passing.

 



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The MOST IMPORTANT issue that separates Ron Paul from all other candidates is the issue of our fraudulent monetary system. But because so few understand the system, and because it cannot be explained in a 30 second sound byte, Dr. Paul’s greatest asset goes largely unnoticed among the general population. Fortunately, as you’ll find in chapter 8, we can easily change this. We can educate ourselves and others. We can unite against (and defeat) the greatest threat facing our nation. It isn’t “terrorism,” it isn’t “drugs,” it isn’t “global warming.” Read on.

 

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The Comprehensive Health Care Reform Act puts control of health care back into the hands of the individual through tax credits, tax deductions, Health Care Savings Accounts (HSA), and Flexible Savings Accounts. By giving individuals tax incentives to purchase their own health care, the Comprehensive Health Care Act will help more Americans obtain quality health insurance and health care. Specifically, the Comprehensive Health Care Act:
  1. Provides all Americans with a tax credit for 100% of health care expenses. The tax credit is fully refundable against both income and payroll taxes.
  2. Allows individuals to roll over unused amounts in cafeteria plans and Flexible Savings Accounts (FSA).
  3. Makes every American eligible for a Health Savings Account (HSA), removes the requirement that individuals must obtain a high-deductible insurance policy to open an HSA; allows individuals to use their HSA to make premiums payments for high-deductible policy; and allows senior citizens to use their HSA to purchase Medigap policies.
  4. Repeals the 7.5% threshold for the deduction of medical expenses, thus making all medical expenses tax deductible.
 

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Don't be fooled. It is NOT pissing in the wind. The right thing is never wrong and only a fool agrees with torturing mass murderers.

That is right, if you have been fooled, supporting torturing mass murderers will torture your conscience and that is wrong.

 

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"The consequences of a rapidly declining dollar are not yet fully understood by the American public. The long-term significance has not sunk in, but when it does there will be political hell to pay in Washington. Our relative wealth as a nation is measured in dollars, and the steady erosion of the value of those dollars means we will all be poorer in the future. The artificial stimulation of our economy through cheap money comes with a price. When dollars are abundant, they are worth less. This is the reality facing Americans today." U.S. Congressman Ron Paul, May 2006.



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Faced with dwindling support of the Iraq War, the warhawks are redoubling their efforts. They imply we are in Iraq attacking those who attacked us, and yet this is not the case. As we know, Saddam Hussein, though not a particularly savory character, had nothing to do with 9/11. The neo-cons claim surrender should not be an option. In the same breath they claim we were attacked because of our freedoms. Why then, are they so anxious to surrender our freedoms with legislation like the Patriot Act, a repeal of our 4th amendment rights, executive orders, and presidential signing statements? With politicians like these, who needs terrorists? Do they think if we destroy our freedoms for the terrorists they will no longer have a reason to attack us? This seems the epitome of cowardice coming from those who claim a monopoly on patriotic courage.

 

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How much crime, torture and mass murder, is allowed by Ron Paul before he supports impeachment?

I don't get it. This is a scandal. I do get it. It is past time to stop lying. Own up.

 
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...cultivating a large Internet following that has landed him 54 million Google hits, which is more than the rest of the Republican and Democratic candidates combined. 


 

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I cut out what I think is propaganda and I quote the part that is merely information that you can use your own mind to judge.

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He was outvoted 334-1. Ninety-eight members weren't present; for the most part, they were either attending Sept. 11 commemorations or the out-of-town memorial service for Ohio Rep. Paul Gillmor, or they had departed town early for the Jewish holidays.

Click here to see how your representative voted for the resolution.

The Ohio Democrat's statement mirrored remarks he's made along the campaign trail, as well as those in a recent interview on Syrian television. The interview followed a meeting with Syrian President Bashar Assad during a Middle East tour.

"The fact of the matter is we are all being weakened by continuing a war that's based on a lie. This war was based on lies. Iraq didn't have the weapons of mass destruction. It wasn't connected to 9/11. It had nothing to do with Al Qaeda's role in 9/11," Kucinich said.

 

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In order to avoid a floor debate on the merits of impeaching the eminently impeachable Vice President Cheney, Pelosi and her allies then moved to send Kucinich’s bill directly to the Judiciary Committee. They were joined by three Republicans, including maverick Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul (R-TX).

 

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Here's a November 15 breaking news example of our way in action. At 8:00AM, 12 FBI and Secret Service agents raided the Liberty Dollar Company's office in Evansville, IN and for the next six hours removed two tons of legal Ron Paul Dollars along with all the gold, silver and platinum at the location. They also took all location files and computers and froze Liberty Dollar's bank accounts in an outrageous police state action against a legitimate business. This move also seems intended to impugn the integrity of a presidential candidate gaining popularity because he defies the bellicose mainstream and wants more people empowerment.

 

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Does anyone else perceive a contradiction here?

Ron Paul is anti-socialism if Ron Paul is anything 'political'. How can someone describe the Ron Paul Revolution where many people are funding an increase in the power of one person as a single representative of the collective whole?

A whole lot of people are collecting power and concentrating that power toward one individual and these people expect something to be done with that power.

From another angle:

Ron Paul is not providing something that has to be sold to others in a capitalistic sense, where, a supply of something requires a capitalistic solution to distribute the 'supply'. The competition in the free market of this supply and demand situation does need to 'sell' their supply with 'clever' advertizements (a capital solution?).

Does anyone see what I mean?

 

 

 

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Bruce Fein is the founder of the American Freedom Agenda, that works to restore constitutional checks and balances. He served in the US Justice Department under President Reagan and has been an adjunct scholar with the American Enterprise Institute, a resident scholar at the Heritage Foundation, a lecturer at the Brookings Institute, and an adjunct professor at George Washington University.

 

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Urge Representative Ronald Ernest 'Ron' Paul to fill out the Political Courage Test

 

Ron Paul took the test once:


1) Explain your two main legislative priorities if elected to Congress.

Reduce the size & scope of the Fed. Gov.

2) Should your priorities require additional government funding, please explain how you intend to obtain the additional funding.

They don't!

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Nov. 26, 2007 | During the past six years, leading Republicans in Congress have prioritized allegiance to a Republican president above all other governmental and constitutional concerns. But there was a time when U.S. lawmakers, regardless of party affiliation, actually voted the way of their conscience. There was a time when a president could not break the law or ignore a summons from Congress with impunity. Indeed, by the height of Richard Nixon's Watergate scandal, a number of congressmen -- including Republicans staunchly loyal to their party -- acted to uphold the law and make Nixon accountable.

 

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Summary:

1) I don't have to follow my own rules, and if I break them, I don't have to tell you that I'm breaking them.

2)I get to determine what my own powers are.

3) The DOJ doesn't tell me what the law is, I tell the DOJ what the law is.



Why not impeach? Is it a 'secret'?
 

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"No I don't support impeachment at this time." Ron Paul (March 12 2007?)

This is BULLSHIT. Am I lying? Is it BULLSHIT or not? How about FACTS?

A. People are being TORTURED right now

B. People are being MURDERED right now

C. Someone may or may not have told the whole truth all of the time?

Here is the question - again:

Why is Ron Paul NOT SUPPORTING IMPEACHMENT?

WHY?

Not; who is to blame for not impeaching?

This:

WHY IS RON PAUL NOT SUPPORTING IMPEACHMENT?

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"I think that deserves investigation."

Who on this earth 'believes' that George Bush and the NEOCONS are innocent (until proven guilty)? I mean - 'they' should investigate the 'possible' 'lies' told by 'this administration' because 'we' really don't know if 'they' actually 'lied'?

See this?

Kucinich has already started impeachment proceedings. Where is the support for investigating possible crimes?

Huh?

Where is the support for slowing down the torture and mass murder - at the very least?

When is a finger going to be lifted to decrease the intensity of the torture currently being committed by the administration RIGHT NOW?

Why brush aside, deflect, misdirect, discredit, or otherwise aid and abet TORTURE AND MASS MURDER?

 

 

 




 


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Congressman Raul Grijalva (D-AZ) has become the latest member of Congress to sign on as a co-sponsor of Dennis Kucinich's "Articles of Impeachment Against Dick Cheney", which were reintroduced on November 6, 2007 as H Res 799. Rep. Grijalva joins approximately two dozen other members of Congress who are taking a stand for the U.S. Constitution.

 

Ron?

 

 

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I think Bush and Cheney should be impeached. Presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich has a new strategy for this to happen. If just one state House and Senate pass together a Resolution for Impeachment, the U.S. Congress will be forced to set aside all other business and deal with impeachment. This is according to the Thomas Jefferson Manual on Impeachment. I think Vermont is the best place for this to happen, but Vermonters need to speak out.

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The "you know you can’t win" premise lays the groundwork for perhaps the most significant psychological obstacle to libertarian electoral success: the wasted vote issue. That issue is always there, even if not brought up explicitly.

 

Win?

I ran for congress. The idea was not to win. The idea was to defend liberty. See the difference?

Do you want Liberty?

How about a stark cantrast?

Do you want free security?

One question is on thing. The other question is another thing. See the difference?

 

 

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Indeed nothing has changed from the administration's perspective, as they have had this latest intelligence report for some time. Only this week has it been made known to the public. They want it both ways with Iran. On the one hand, they discredit the report entirely, despite it being one of the most comprehensive intelligence reports on the subject, with over 1,000 source notes in the document. On the other hand, when discrediting it fails, they claim that the timing of the abandonment of the weapons program, just as we were invading Iraq, means our pressure must have worked, so we must keep it up with a new round of even tougher sanctions. Russia and China are not buying this, apparently, and again we are finding ourselves on a lonely tenuous platform on the world stage.

 

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This is precious:

 

In the Coinage Act of 1972 the Founders provided the death penalty for any government employee who debased the money. One wonders that if such a penalty were enforced today who may members of the Federal Open Market Committee would survive the month. [Ron Paul]


 

 

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We are over 3 hours ahead of donations on the 5th. And the graph slope looks steeper.

 

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What a day! I am humbled and inspired, grateful and thrilled for this vast outpouring of support.

On just one day, in honor of the 234th anniversary of the Boston Tea Party, the new American revolutionaries brought in $6.04 million, another one-day record. The average donation was $102; we had 58,407 individual contributors, of whom an astounding 24,915 were first-time donors. And it was an entirely voluntary, self-organized, decentralized, independent effort on the internet. Must be the “spammers” I keep hearing about!

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 A Note to Principled Anarchists


 

That is nice.

I will try to contact the person through e-mail.

My e-mail will be very brief. Comments are here.

I am running for president and I consider myself to be a principled anarchist. I vote for myself - when able.

The problem I continue to have with Ron Paul (and so far there is only one problem) is the failure to support the rule of law with respect to the constitutional method of enforcing the rule of law.

It goes like this:

A band of torturing mass murderers happens to be torturing and mass murdering.

The leader of the group may not be known; however - one of the leaders has documented his participation - on the record and off. That person's name is Dick.

Dick has put the Dick back in Dictator.

What can be done to slow down the torture and mass murder; if not stop it.

What can be done according to the rule of law or if that is forgotten, then, what can be done according to the constitution?

Someone happened to ask and answer that question and currently that effort is underway. Congressmen and women must support the effort or the effort goes unsupported, see, can you see this as fact?

Without the support, supporting the fabricated rule of law emboldened into the constitution, the torture now continues, the torture in the next minute will continue, and the torture tomorrow and on into the foreseeable future continues - so help their God.

It does.

Why not support the constitution on this matter?

Well...Ron?

Are you lost?

 

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 http://www.opencongress.org/bill/110-hr333/show

SponsorCo-Sponsors "They" can't be blamed for the torture and mass murder so much as the 'others' don't you see?

Business as usual even before the champion of the constitution can champion the constitution while standing as president. Is he not a congressman?


How about some more help with the economics of the issue?
Scoffing at the argument that has been made by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and others in the Democratic leadership that impeachment might hurt Democratic chances in the November ’08 elections, or that it could deter Democrats from their Congressional agenda, Wexler, a six-term congressman seeking re-election, says, “I believe that there is a constitutional obligation for the Congress to hold this administration accountable, and it should not depend on what people think the impact might be on an election. The only question should be: Did Vice President Cheney abuse his powers?”
If it isn't good for the goose - huh?

 

 


 



 

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To advocate for society to be organized on the basis of strict individualism, as libertarians do, is to argue that everyone has the right to do whatever he or she wants.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article18953.htm

The link, and quote from the link, is poor. It is poor because it is full of dogmatic falsehoods.

The whole 'debate' between 'right' and 'wrong' is very simple. Right is voluntary. Wrong is involuntary by deception and involuntary by violence; where - the innocent are injured - on purpose.

The 'right' can blame the left for "STUFF". What blame? What STUFF?

What, exactly, is the conviction perpetrated against "The Right"?

Do you see this?

Try an experiment. Take away the 'right' word and add the 'left' word and see what happens.

 

The 'left' can blame the right for "STUFF". What blame? What STUFF?

What, exactly, is the conviction perpetrated against "The Left"?

 

How did the experiment go?

 

Now take any individual who has injured an innocent person by deception and or by violence.

Did the 'collective' injure someone - on purpose?

Did 'capitalism' injure someone - on purpose?

Do you see what happens?

The 'group' (or anything) is blamed for the actions of an individual.

How convenient is that for the individual who actually does the injury to innocents?

I can't answer that question for any individual. I can help many individuals (or harm them) if I have the POWER to publish words read by many, many, people.

I don't.

I'll send this to that same web page and see if this is published on that same web page.

Why did that false blame pass the filters of reason? Why are my words rejected? Who, exactly, can be responsible?

How about a quote?

"Responsibility must be Individual, or there is no responsibility at all."  Josiah Warren (1852)

What is the real problem with INVOLUNTARY capitalism?

How about another quote?

“every individual will attempt to secure his own requirements as completely as possible to the exclusion of others.” Carl Menger (1840 -1921)

The problem arises when one individual injures another, innocent, individual by deception or by violence, on purpose, to gain at the expense of the innocent individual.

The practice of profiting at the expense of the innocent becomes exponentially more profitable as the number of victims increase.

Ron Paul has embraced an economic viewpoint. Which one?

Will he answer the question accurately or will he falsify the answer?

What question?

Will you force or fraud people into injuring innocence for profit; or will you support individual accountability?

See?

The question can be re-phrased if you can't see - yet.

Will you allow anyone to account for thier own personal actions or will you allow people to project blame onto 'others' and thereby avoid accountability for indivdual actions?

Read the quotes again. One means one thing. The other means another thing. They may not actually be opposites in all cases. Are you honestly accountable or do you 'get away with murder'?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The 'Civil War' was torture and mass murder for profit. It was executed on slaves and it created slaves. Giving credit for 'freedom' to war profiteers instead of accounting the credit of freedom to the people who earned their freedom is as false as the 'Civil War'. What is "CiviL" about torture and mass murder? When did right become wrong?

 

Look back into the dirty compromise when the southern slave traders made a deal with the northern slave traders in secret meetings during the constitutional debate. The southern ones were less deceptive about it. Look behind the labels.

 

War is not good for the economy unless you happen to invest in both sides losing big. It is called selling short.

 

Read the fine print people.

 

 

 

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I read some. No mention of Dennis Kucinich or Mike Gravel.

In other words: The Status Quo

P.S. I read the book "Imperial Hubris" and it is a very well written book; definitely worth the cost expended by me to read it.

 

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I'm reading that one now after skipping through the last one. Chomsky once had a live debate with a famous capitalist whose name excapes me. I'll comment on this 'response' as I read it.

style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"But where in the US Constitution or in any branch of libertarian or anarchist theory itself is there any support for the idea that such things should be provided for by the style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"US federal government?

 

If Chomsky can be interpreted, in context, to accurately mean the above, then, why not quote where Chomsky says the above. Why use new words?

If, on the other hand, Chomsky is set aside to argue some other issue, then, why involve Chomsky at all?

If, and this may be the most probable reason, Chomsky is misinterpreted in context, then, a response is insufficient to clarify the misinterpretation. A debate may suffice if both people try to clarify the message intended - on purpose.

What is the message intended? Clearly it is - Elect Ron Paul as President.

Chomsky is in the way?

My interpretation of this exchange (as far as I read so far) indicates a few serious confusions. When Chomsky uses the term 'democracy' does he mean the same thing by that term as the meaning taken by anyone else?

I may be one of those who are confused. My interpretation of the word democracy, in this case, is synonymous with anarchism as 'sovereignty of the individual'. In other words the meaning intended is not, and specifically not, meant to be ‘democracy’ as abuse of power by the majority upon anyone (including the minority).

I’ll read on.

Is it not more fitting with both American political traditions and the broad array of anarchist and libertarian traditions for such things to be provided by states, localities, regions, and communities or by voluntary associations, mutual aid societies, labor unions, guilds, professional organizations, churches, benevolence societies, philanthropies, cooperatives, collectives, communes, kibbutzes, clubs, neighborhoods, families and other institutions organized independently of the state? Whatever kind of economic arrangements one favors, who says these have to be run or supported by the state? Would not public lands, parks, wildlife preserves and the like be better cared for in the hands of authentic conservation organizations rather than the US government?

 

Chomsky may be supporting the STATE as the answer to his expressed concerns and (out of context) his words suggest that conclusion. I can’t speak for Chomsky. The POWER of Limited Liability Corporate PEOPLE (the actual people using and abusing that POWER) is extreme by any accurate account. This is hard to sweep under the rug. How much does the ‘war on terror’ cost some people and how much does that same ‘ad campaign’ profit other people. I think that Chomsky may be saying or meaning that one POWER is too great and therefore another POWER must become greater, IF, war is ever going to be slowed down (less profitable).

See?

I’ll read on. I don’t think, again, that Chomsky can be propped up as the champion of the state compared to say Ron Paul who is, in fact, a congressman who had not, in fact, supported the use of ‘the rule of law’ (the actual constitution) to slow down the torture and mass murder by impeachment.

See?

On the one hand is Chomsky who operates outside the ‘law’ apparatus.

On the other hand is Ron Paul who operates inside the ‘law’ apparatus.

One can ‘advertise’ the need to use a POWER to slow down torture and mass murder.

The other can actually wield that POWER right now. All Ron Paul has to do is speak. Ron Paul can say: "I will support impeachment to slow down the torture and mass murder".  Ron Paul would then have to 'put his money where his mouth is' and vote to impeach when that formality becomes appropriate. So far Ron Paul has stated that not enough evidence exists, or some other words that fail to support impeachment, for him to support impeachment.

Well...Ron - The Constitution instructs congress to start impeachment to be held in the Senate to find out if the evidence does exist. How many torture victims and piles of murdered innocent people constitute sufficient evidence?

If The people in congress fail to check the POWER of torturing mass murderers in the federal government, then, who can?

The people. Specifically other people besides those people in congres and those criminals who are torturing and mass murdering.

Other people = democracy = the people

Not 'the majority'.

Democracy does not mean 'unlimited power held by the majority' unless that is what the indivdual wants democracy to mean.

Chomksy: "There are huge differences between workers and owners. Owners can fire and intimidate workers, not conversely. Just for starters. Putting them on a par is effectively supporting the rule of owners over workers, with the support of state power – itself largely under owner control, given concentration of resources."

But, Dr. Chomksy, you've written over and over again that the American corporate system rests on state interventionism (state-capitalism) rather than the separation of economy and state favored by libertarians like Ron Paul. As many have observed, the unbalanced nature of the employer-employee relationship rests on state privilege for business elites, not on any sort of free enterprise worthy of the label. Why maintain this contradictory and seemingly irrational attachment to statism in the name of economic justice?

See how much confusion can arise when words are not defined accurately. Why is something assumed to be true when something can be confirmed as true by asking questions? Why does the discussion have to proceed as an argument where one side is defined by the other side and visa versa? Individuals define themselves.

Ask

Anyway the ‘left’ can be some form or twisted form of ‘rule by the majority’ and the ‘right’ can be some form or twisted form of ‘rule by limited liability corporations’. In either case the false part is blaming the ‘thing’ and not actual people. People rule other people by voluntary association, by fraud, and by force. Which one is better according to any individual at any time?

If Chomsky is a ‘leftist’ as defined by someone on the ‘right’, then, what are the chances that the Chomsky is going to be accurately defined? What are the chances that the ‘right’ is going to be ‘looking good’ compared to the definition of Chomsky?

Again: Ron Paul wields a measure of Federal POWER.

Chomsky wields a measure of POWER too.

Which POWER is more POWERFUL?

Do both POWERS intend to slow down torture and mass murder? If so, then, why not support the impeachment of Dick (and I do mean DICK) Cheney?

If anyone were being tortured, then, the obvious support against it would be painfully obvious and there wouldn’t be any confusion about it. Torturers worth their pay make sure.

(Interviewer) Dr. Paul, what about Social Security?

The reader may find reading the context of the quote above to be valuable. I do. Chomsky may be confused about Ron Paul and S S (social security). I am not. I've been suffering from over-work and false promises by corporate agents to a point where my health has cost me much in medical bills. I've been trying to either get insurance to fix my damaged body or get S S to pay me my benefits promised.

Guess what?

Neither will pay me what was promised when I paid insurance payments for over 25 years of hard labor. I much prefer the free market solution where costs and quality are fine tuned by ‘equitable’ competition (not cut throat ‘legal’ POWER competition). That is a hand full of words.

Suffice to say that my present situation leaves me at the mercy of fate. I’m POWER less.

I don’t have the answers to my personal fate. I depend upon some form of charity. So far my wife has taken over the work of gaining purchasing power. I may take another job soon that requires less cost on my health. I may have to do so.

S S may yet pay what was promised – by contract. Blue Cross may yet pay for my repair.

Meanwhile; people are being tortured and the pile of murdered bodies is growing.

What is the beef?

Stop, please, bickering and begin to check the POWER of those legal criminals who are torturing and mass murdering. See this? What if one of the people on the rack right now just happens to be the next Einstein only less careless with his knowledge?

I’m skipping the rest of this one too.

If the reader knows nothing about Chomsky, then, don't be discouraged by this attempt to discredit him and his messages. He may not be perfect - like everyone else. I've found much of his work to be worth the effort.

 




 


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I mean, Kucinich, who has good positions on many of these issues, he’s decided to throw in his lot with Obama.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article18991.htm

Business as usual?

That leaves Ron Paul standing on principle and not 'special interest'.

I suppose that (if it is true) explains the reluctance to back the impeachment process (or false flag non-process if that is what it actually is).

 

 

 

 

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Well...my comment is to point out the need to combine forces with Dennis Kucinich and Mike Gravel to construct and maintain REAL debates on the issues from the actual representatives (rather than the legal criminals and the legal criminal wannabe evil people).

Whenever I hear either 'side' claim to be the 'only' candidate to 'uphold the constitution' or 'eliminate the drug war' or whatever I see 'business as usual' and to that I comment, again, why not show people how to debate right and fair rather than wrong and unfair?

Why play by the wrong set of rules voluntarily?

Let's see a real debate between real candidates. What on Earth are you afraid of?

 

 

 

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Individuals in the Army, Navy and Air Force made those branches of the armed services among the top contributors in the 4th Quarter, ranking No. 13, No. 18 and No. 21, respectively. In 2007, Republican Ron Paul, who opposes U.S. involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan, was the top recipient of money from donors in the military, collecting at least $212,000 from them. Barack Obama, another war opponent, was second with about $94,000.

 

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On February 12 Ron Paul released a video update. In his video he calls for his supporters to create a 'grand march' in Washington, D.C. Though no date was specified, he did mention it needs to be done in the next three or four months, before the convention. This march will be a grand message that the MSM and government will not be able to ignore.

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What would happen if "The Media" where in love with Ron Paul enough to broadcast speeches like that during prime time commercial time?

More profit for everyone and less profit for someone?

 

 

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What would happen if "The Media" where in love with Ron Paul enough to broadcast speeches like that during prime time commercial time?

More profit for everyone and less profit for someone?

 

 

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What would happen if "The Media" where in love with Ron Paul enough to broadcast speeches like that during prime time commercial time?

More profit for everyone and less profit for someone?

 

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Mr. Chairman, I would like to thank you for calling this hearing on the current state of affairs in Iraq with General David Petraeus and Ambassador Ryan Crocker. Reviewing the presentations by our panel, I have noted with some concern that they seem more focused on justifying a future attack on Iran than reporting on progress in Iraq. Much of the assertions about Iran in Iraq seem illogical, others seem intended to inflame the situation with little justification.

 

People,

The legal criminals destroying civilization won a huge victory in discrediting the power of truth spoken by Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich, Mike Gravel, and their supporters. You really don't need to be so soft on crime and so easily manipulated into following a path of falsehood, destruction, and ignorance.

Please reconsider a more careful approach toward fact finding and productive employment. You know the old saying: "Garbage in - garbage out."

 

 

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"We voted this morning to make some changes in the rules that left us on overtime with a day's work left to do," Beers said as he called the recess. "We have a budget. We're now going over. And we don't even have ballots."

Party Chairman Sue Lowden left quietly out a rear exit as the Paul supporters erupted in anger, demanding to continue the debate into the night and choose delegates.

"That's baloney," shouted one man. "I didn't pay to sit through this."

"Beers, you're finished," yelled a woman with a Paul sticker.

Others used stronger language as they gathered around Beers.

A few minutes later, it was reported someone had threatened Beers, who was taken quickly from the hall by security.

"The rhythm of the day forced this free-form fiasco," said Lt. Gov. Brian Krolicki.

Before he left, Beers offered Paul's Southern Nevada chairman Brian Kominsky a deal, saying he would provide them a complete list of nominees for national delegate and a list of state delegates. He said Lowden would try get the party access to the Cox Pavilion in Las Vegas to finish the convention in the next few days.

Kominsky questioned whether the party was really out of time at the Peppermill saying that when he asked, Peppermill officials said the group could have the room for another three hours past their original 5 p.m. deadline.

 

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We have permits secured to begin the march on the North lawn of the Washington monument. THIS IS THE OFFICIAL GATHERING LOCATION FOR THE REVOLUTION MARCH


Where:
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When:
July 12th, 2008, 9:30AM

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Needless to say, a serious situation would ensue should Ron Paul fail to respond, responsively (i.e., with formal, specific answers to the questions in the Petitions for Redress). Absent such a response Ron Paul’s credibility as an adherent of the Constitution could quickly be called into question.

The Constitution is not a menu. Rep. Paul is an official of the U.S. Government, and as a true believer and outspoken defender of the Constitution he cannot be found defending only some of its provisions, such as the war powers, money, privacy and tax clauses, while disobeying another, such as the accountability clause of the First Amendment. Again, it is important to note he has publicly admitted such an obligation to Respond.

Ironically, should Ron Paul fail to Respond to the Petitions, he would in effect, not only be ignoring the affirmative duty expressly placed upon him by the last ten words of the First Amendment, he would (through his "Campaign for Liberty") be left promoting the notion of majority rule as the sole avenue of recourse by which the People can (peacefully) cure constitutional torts or secure their individual Rights.

In other words, Ron Paul's potential failure to Respond would place him in the awkward position of publicly embracing political principles endemic to a pure democracy, while simultaneously holding himself, as a duly elected official, beyond the legal construct protecting the actual exercise of Individual Rights and Popular Sovereignty as guaranteed by the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, and numerous other expressions of Fundamental Law dating back to Magna Carta.

It is time to move the battle for Liberty beyond the limited paradigm of electoral politics and governance by the majority:  It is time to exercise the individual Right to Petition our Government for Redress of Grievances and Restore Constitutional Order.


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Last week I had the opportunity to bring up spending and transparency in two important hearings. On Wednesday I questioned Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke on some highly questionable uses of funds at the Federal Reserve, and on Thursday I asked Secretary of State Hillary Clinton about exorbitant spending at the State Department.

 

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No more legal torture, and murder now?

 

 

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The US is trying to take over the world with natural resources Ron Paul says.

 

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After Iraq’s successful invasion of Kuwait, we reacted with gusto and have been militarily involved in the entire region 6,000 miles from our shores ever since. This has included Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, and Somalia. After 20 years of killing and a couple trillion dollars wasted, not only does the fighting continue with no end in sight, but our leaders threaten to spread our bombs of benevolence on Iran.
 

 

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Our battle in Afghanistan resembles the battle against the many-headed Hydra monster in Greek mythology. According to Former General Stanley McChrystal’s so-called insurgent math, for every insurgent killed, 10 more insurgents are created by the collateral damage to civilians. Every coalition attack leads to 6 retaliatory attacks against our troops within the following six weeks, according to the NBER report. These retaliatory attacks must then be acted on by our troops, leading to still more attacks, and so it goes. Violence begets more violence. Eventually more and more Afghanis will view American troops with hostility and seek revenge for the death of a loved one. Meanwhile, we are bleeding ourselves dry, militarily and economically.

 

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Ron Paul & Lew Rockwell: End the Fed, End the Wars, End the Empire

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Lying is not patriotic

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While we have not seen credible proof – nor has it been claimed – that the Gaddafi regime has engaged in any large-scale slaughter of Libyan civilians, we see increasing reports of civilians who have been killed in airstrikes by the forces that are supposed to protect them! It seems we may be causing the very problem our intervention was supposed to prevent.

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The president's attack on Libya was unconstitutional and thus unlawful.

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What is depleted uranium?




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