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| Posted: Mon May 29th, 2006 12:18 pm |
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Joe Kelley Administrator
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This falls under the heading of ‘fool me once’ or ‘Beating a dead horse’. I’ve tried submitting to Lew Rockwell in the past and that effort was rejected. It is time for me to try again. From here: http://forum.atimes.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7391 I’ve posted this: May I continue? I’ll edit the piece a bit and send it to here: lewrockwell@mac.com From here: http://www.lewrockwell.com/ I’ll link this web page and ask for permission to publish the rejection. Remember: I’m the Stupid one. Time will tell.
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| Posted: Mon May 29th, 2006 12:26 pm |
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May I speak freely to the public? Edited version above sent: 9:25 AM PST May 29, 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jun 20th, 2007 03:40 pm |
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Joe Kelley Administrator
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http://www.lewrockwell.com/woods/woods72.html That belongs here under "What is good for the goose..." The 'Austrian Economist's' record for excluding unwanted facts is documented. I can personally attest to it. http://www.thomasewoods.com/invite.htm Invitation by e-mail has been sent. Last edited on Wed Jun 20th, 2007 03:42 pm by Joe Kelley |
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| Posted: Tue Oct 23rd, 2007 02:56 pm |
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Joe Kelley Administrator
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http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig8/burris6.html The 'credit' for a new awakening or 'revolution' is being stolen in that 'article'. The supposed 'radical' inspiration for more accurate awareness of reality does not 'belong' to the Austrian Economists and the Mises Institute. The 'authorites' there don't even agree with Ludwig Von Mises and "FREE" banking. They are 'anti' Free banking. They are 'anti' any economic theory other than thier enforced capitalism. They suffer hubris. They suppose themselves to be lords of truth and they do so with their own words: an arrogant, hubristic executive branch out of control Try posting a 'radical' viewppoint on the Austrian Economics Forum and see exactly what happens when the arrogant, hubristic executive branch goes out of control Try posting this: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article18602.htm Please do. Please report your findings here. In between the 'property' and happiness is where the credit goes. A power struggle continues between the haves and the have nots. Those who have the power of accurate accountability will earn accurate credit. Those who speak of half-truths will get half of what they deserve - perhaps. The other half endeavors to steal credit and pass on costs - it is false. Sent e-mail:
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 12:17 pm |
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Joe Kelley Administrator
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http://www.lewrockwell.com/rockwell/mortgage-fix-mirage.html I probably won't read that because it is false - on purpose. I saw the title: Lew Rockwell on what easy money has done to mortgages and everything else. Easy Money? These people are either too imbedded within their Interest/Profit/Wage Paying System to see outside or they are frauds for profit. Keepers at the gate The real problem is not EASY money at all. The term EASY is meant to discredit any SYSTEM that reduces currency costs because systems that reduce currency costs will end the Interest/Profit/Wage Paying System Monopoly and wealth will be connected to value rather than wealth being connected to fraud and violence. This is really simple. Again: A currency system where costs of ‘borrowing’ currency are reduced to a practical zero can empower anyone who has an ability to create value with the means to exchange that potential value. Currency is merely the medium of exchange. Money can be valuable things that store, preserve, and maintain wealth. Currency merely accounts for the transfer of wealth that has been created, produced, and held before consumption or transfer. Money is like voltage where a potential exists to move things around. In the case of electricity the potential called voltage moves electromotive force and not just electrons. A force is stored in a battery and the measure of that force POTENTIAL is called VOLTAGE. Money is the same type of potential FORCE. To say: I have money in the BANK is the same thing as saying I have voltage in my battery. How do you pay the electric bill? How do you pay the food bill? How do you pay the gas bill? How do you keep your car filled with gasoline? You have to have a medium of exchange that is produced and stored somewhere to be commanded by you when you need to move the food from the store to your home. Just as Money is POTENTIAL to FORCE things from one place to another there is another obvious similarity between monetary SYSTEMS and Electrical SYSTEMS because CURRENCY is ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS is POWER. In a monetary system the currency is also POWER. POWER is the CURRENT moving of things during CURRENT movements of things by CURRENT applications of FORCE. The confusion of TIME is where the perception can become very difficult to perceive accurately. Money, like voltage in a battery, is timeless or relatively timeless (if money is accurate it is less discredited by time and less devalued by time and less valued by time and more stable or more accurate as time goes by) compared to CURRENCY which is like AMPERAGE because CURRENCY and AMPERAGE suffer loss quickly. Currency and Amperage are used up quickly, in time, or Currency and Amperage are lost, wasted, consumed, and never to be recovered because Currency and Amperage FORCE things and when currency and AMPERAGE are done FORCING things, then, the energy is GONE. The energy stored in the BANK or the BATTERY is used up when the CURRENCY forces the things around. The BATTERY and the BANK will deplete when the CURRENCY flows from them on the way to do the work in TIME. Again: A BANK and a BATTERY are empty and valueless without a need for capturing, storing, and saving precious stuff that must be captured, stored, and saved. There would be no need for a battery or a bank if CURRENCY was not consumed in the process of moving things. Examples: A new device is produced in the future where electricity is produced from an object the size of a penny and the amount of electricity produced from this penny sized object is as much electricity as Hover Dam or as much electricity as required to light one light bulb – more or less. In other words; this new device can produce as much electricity as anyone needs for anything at any time and the device is the size of a penny (smaller versions are being built too). What happens? People want these things – of course. Because TIME can be confusing it makes perfect sense (cents) to add a feature to the new device and this new feature will help the reader focus on the principle involved in this present (current) inspection. The penny generator (the penny sized electric generating device) lasts forever (it is guaranteed to work for 1000 years or you get a full refund). See now? Jump ahead 200 years and imagine inheriting this device from your Grandfather or Grandmother or both. Now you can eliminate any confusion on PRICE concerning this device. Your past generations paid for the device and now you simply use it. What happens? The idea is to see why MONEY and BANKS are as needed as BATTERIES are needed. Where do you put this device? If you put this device in a car, then, you can’t POWER your house unless you hook the car up to the house somehow. If you put this device on your house, then, you can POWER every house anywhere so long as any other house is hooked up to your house with wires. The POWER source is a penny sized object. You have one. If you have one, then, it stands to reason that everyone has one or two since you and I are not wealthy (if we were then we would be parroting the same Interest/Profit/Wage Paying SYSTEM falsehoods trying desperately to preserve our flow of wealth – for nothing) and since new economical technologies will become more plentiful as more energy is spent making them. In other words; they produce more for less. See that? More for less Return to the BANK and the need to STORE stuff because STUFF will ‘go bad’, evaporate, or be consumed if it is not stored. Save is the mantra. We must SAVE the stuff. Saving is better than spending. Bla bla bla. No, see, that is wrong. The reason for saving is only a need because the STUFF has the problem of use or loss. You must use it or lose it. The STUFF is currency. The stuff is not MONEY. Back to the Penny Generator and, again, everyone has two (like two cars in every garage) or three, four, five, whatever. See this. If something is ‘very valuable’ and therefore something wanted, needed, and desired by everyone, then, that something will be produced if it can be produced until everyone has as many as needed in direct proportion to the need or want of it – if possible. The Penny Generator illustrates this very well because the Penny Generator shows how something valuable reduces the cost of making the valuable thing desired, wanted, and needed. Example: Your grandparents started one of the first Penny Generator factories because they had one of the first Penny Generators. See this? Your grandparents were able to cut all their electricity costs and, since few other people had a Penny Generator at that TIME, they were able to sell electricity – on demand. The sales ‘profits’ from selling electricity to everyone on the grid empowered your grandparents with PURCHASING POWER to run their Penny Generator Factory. The factory stored PURCHASING POWER as every ‘customer’ sent CURRENCY to your parents as your parents sent CURRENCY to their customers. Electric power went out of the factory (because it had one of the few Penny Generators) while MONETARY power went to the factory. The source of the POWER in this case remains to be the imaginary Penny Generator. The only need for a BANK in this case is the fact that, at this TIME, only a few Penny Generators exist – at this TIME. Once everyone has one, two, or three Penny Generators, then, there is no longer a need for a BANK to store electricity because everyone has electricity whenever and wherever they need it at any time for 1000 years. And – by now the ability to make new Penny Generators is almost cost-less because electricity POWER is free, easy, and cost-less. I mean exactly COST LESS and I do not mean to suggest COST FREE. What is the interest in viewing the world this way? Why should I expect the reader to have an INTEREST in this viewpoint? A BANK is superfluous, ridiculous, ignorant, stupid, and even criminal when there is no need for one – at all. Unless you happen to be someone who profits from the fraud, then, and only then will there be a need for a BANK in modern times. If there is no BANK, then, there are no INTEREST payments where a person earning PURCHASING POWER is ‘required’ to PAY or ELSE. PAY OR SUFFER PAY OR BE PUNISHED The BANK merely stores wealth POWER or PURCHASING POWER and if the BANK cannot do so accurately, then, the BANK does so inaccurately. See this? If, for example, a customer sends the BANK an amount of PURCHASING POWER to be stored until needed and that amount is off by 10 percent. See this? You send 100 units of PURCHASING POWER to the BANK and the BANK accounts those 100 units inaccurately by 10 percent error. That can be called 10 percent error PLUS or MINUS. Like this: 100 + or – 10% When you need the Purchasing Power stored by the BANK your account can then read as follows: 90 units or 110 units Now add up 100,000,000 (one hundred million) of the same errors. 100,000,000 + or – 10% The BANK can store an inaccurate amount of Purchasing Power equal to the following error: 90,000,000 units or 110,000,000 units In other words the BANK can either lose 10 million units with one error or gain 10 million units with one error. So…which do you think the BANK is going to do when the BANK happens to make an error. OOOOPS
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 12:44 pm |
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Joe Kelley Administrator
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How about a definition of hypocracy? http://www.lewrockwell.com/greenhut/greenhut49.html This:
Then this:
There was a time when "Libertarian" was not a synonym for Appologist for Limited Libility Corporate Nation State as a means of securing Monopoly enforment of the Interest/Profit/Wage Paying SYSTEM.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 01:37 pm |
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Joe Kelley Administrator
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http://www.denverpost.com/business/ci_7655582
I think that sums things up.
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| Posted: Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 01:49 pm |
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Joe Kelley Administrator
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Ludwig von Mises: "Marx and Engels never tried to refute their opponents with argument. They insulted, ridiculed, derided, slandered, and traduced them, and in the use of these methods their followers are not less expert. Their polemic is directed never against the argument of the opponent, but always against his person." Post a stream of incoherent diatribes in poor English, and folks will tire of it--including moderators. That you don't grasp this, and speak conspiratorially of others trying to "silence you" doesn't really speak well of your overall comprehension of the reality in which you find yourself. My reply is that the statement is nonsense on its face. There is no meaningful notion of "accurate" currency. I already offered an opinion of the web site you initially suggested, which argues that interest rates should be legally capped at 0%. My hat is off to you for creating such a breathtakingly meaningless sentence. Terms already exist for such concepts. Learn them and use them. You will not be taken seriously when you use terms that demonstrate ignorance of basic economic concepts. Just a note: identifying your ignorance of basic economics for what it is isn't a "personal attack." If I decided to start debating circuit design with a bunch of electrical engineers, I'd experience a similar reality check, and I'd dislike it as much as you probably dislike my observations. Sometimes the truth hurts our egos. That was not an attack: it was an order. As a mod, I'm one of the persons you implicitly accused of wishing to censor or silence you. If you blather enough about how "the mods will probably lock the thread and shut me up, etc., etc.," then a mod--possibly I--will indeed take some sort of action. Thus you are encouraged to stow it. Only if you're one of the people behind the "Mathematically Perfected Economy™". If you are, I had no idea; I was mocking them without reaizing that you were one of them. Let me say this plainly, so as to leave no doubt. Never ask that question again. Completely and utterly drop that subject. If you have something to say about economics, say it. Clear? Mr. Kelley: The hypocrites sent me to the corn field. Fuck off – you get what you earn stupid ass. How about this: What comes around - goes around. For anyone not interested in following the logic here I can try to condense. Ron Paul is attractive to the Austrian economists because they think that Ron Paul will enforce their interest/profit/wage paying system. They are ‘up in arms’ because Ron Paul is being censured by the authorities. HA! That is soooooooo funnnny to me. I’ve tried many times to discuss the competitive advantage of ‘free money’ markets such as Equitable Commerce (where anyone can print their won money) and the Austrian Guru’s attack me personally instead of discussing the issue (in this case the issue of accurate currency). The really, really, real stupid part is how Mises was FOR accurate currency or “Free Market” currency WHILE the supposed Austrian’s support the opposite and the same Austrians, at the same time, support Mises! See that! It is as if the Austrians are fighting their own selves – on purpose. I have to point, again, to this: http://www.lewrockwell.com/north/north512.html WHAT IS THE SOLUTION? In theory, there are two possible solutions, neither of which has any possibility of being implemented in my lifetime or yours. It appears to me, and perhaps other people, that the Austrians have become schizoid or split in personality. They have grown attached to their enforced monopoly called ‘capitalism’ which employs ‘the profit motive’ whereby price is derived from scarcity rather than cost. In other words the ‘free market’ must be controlled by half the Austrian personality and therefore protect the ‘gold standard’ and other interest/profit/wage paying SYSTEM principles and interests. The other half of the Austrian personality must champion the ‘free market’ (so long as the freeness is limited to ‘them’ being free) because un-free allows the competition to gain the same control of the System. See? Free means ‘free to enforce their desired SYSTEM’ half the time. Free mans free to exclude any other SYSTEM the other half of the time. I think the split (the psychosis) occurred when Carl Menger began constructing his scarce economy SYSTEM. Here:
Menger publishes even greater falsehoods later on in the same work. The above alone is farcical; how can someone explain reproduction given the claim being excreted by Menger? Anyway – an actual free market for money would exclude no one. Excluding people, on purpose, is profitable whereby those having the power to exclude, on purpose, manage to gain the expense of the excluded. It is called extortion. It is called crime. It becomes legalized crime when enough people are bamboozled into adopting the falsehoods. Many people know what it is exactly and they go on with the flow of things because their knowledge allows them to keep the shitty end of the stick pointed in the ‘right’ direction. When the exploited (excluded) wise up, then, they may become extremely pissed off. At about that time a ‘savior’ may ride the wave and take back the lost control. Why do all that over and over again as if no other SYSTEM were possible? HELLO? Mises was right and Menger is dead wrong. The solution to the problem is to stop fixing the problem with the problem. Fixing the problem by supporting the problem is false. Free Money Markets, because they are free, will empower the most able to supply the money demand with the best money and it will be accurate and cost-less. If that happens to be GOLD as money (currency), then, that will happen in a free money market. If someone offers a more accurate currency (money) at a lower cost, then, Gold doesn’t win; hence – the need to enforce a desired winner that manages to secure someone’s requirements as completely as possible to the exclusion of others – on damn purpose fuckheads.
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| Posted: Tue Jan 15th, 2008 01:02 pm |
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I won't bother submitting anything to that 'club'.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/rockwell/consumer-recession.html Is that the 'let them eat cake' club? The solution to their created problem (yes - they create the problem when they push for 'high interest' currency) is to reduce velocity by making currency even more scarce. The actual Mises dude (not the Menger dude) solves the problem with open currency markets. Think in terms of legal counterfeiting or legal black markets in currency. Anyone can join in the open competition to supply the demand for currency – anyone. Imagine, for example, the major corporations paying their employees with company stock issue. How about Google and Microsoft as examples of new currency printed by Google and Microsoft and those items flowing through the world social structure as currency and think hard on this if it seems to be ‘stupid’? Who would be rich enough to continue consuming (sustaining a decent life)? Who would accept Google ‘cash’? Note: Google stock went up 200 percent in one year (as far as I know). How about a new company that makes Solar Panels with the new technology whereby the cost per watt has reduced from 6 dollars a watt to 1 dollar a watt? How much would their currency be worth to, say, the people at WalMart or Food Mart? Would the ‘executives’ at WalMart accept Solar Panel currency and therefore allow anyone having Solar Panel currency (or Google stock) to exchange their new currency for food, clothes, etc.? The problem is a scarcity of currency exacerbated by the extreme lack of quality of the ‘legal’ currency (the currency enforced by ‘the powers that be’ is rotten, inaccurate, soaked with blood and oil and fraudulent – on purpose). The solution is not to ‘stop spending’ unless, of course, that really means ‘stop buying much more than needed long enough to jack up the interest rates and then resume buying much more than needed while making a killing from the scarcity of fraudulent ‘legal’ currency.’ If a person is barely surviving on what little they spend, then, the advice of ‘stop spending’ is ‘starve’; hence – let them eat cake.
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