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http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=7151.msg28659;topicseen#msg28659
The above is a forum re-direction. My initial intent remains the same intent. I'm asking Alex Jones a question concerning a new Independence Day.
The way things work, or so the story goes, is a radio show where anyone can ask Alex Jones a question by phone or through the forum.
Two days in a row I asked my question during the broadcast.
The forum topic used for question asking is purged on a daily basis and that makes sense.
My question was redirected and that makes sense.
Why was my question rephrased in a way that discredits my question?
I'm going to cut and paste the entire exchange just in case the topic is deleted:
The moderators title choice is this:
More distracting ideas about how to spend our time
The moderator then republishes my question:
I don't want to spam.
How many times can I ask the question before the obvious answer is ignorance?
Why can't people plan on and execute a future new independence day. Following the example of many unrecognized patriots of true liberty the new Independence Day or ‘liberty day’ is a planned refusal to pay income tax (which empowers the legal criminals) and begin utilizing a replacement (competitive) currency?
During the time period between today and the new Independence Day signers pledge nothing more than their names and their intent to work toward the new Independence Day; which is not a promise to commit any crime AT ALL.
The idea is to voluntarily work toward no more income tax payments and the incorporation of a more accurate currency to have these goals achieved by a specific date.
The number of people signing the new Declaration of Independence can also be only a number with individual signers maintaining autonomy with an encryption; HOWEVER – what are we standing for – exactly. Is it liberty or something less?
The moderator republishes a response to my question (I didn't ask for a respose from anyone other than Alex Jones because I didn't want to spam). The response was first published during the live broadcast (or so the story goes).
I agree with that new Declaration of Independence. However, we also need to purify the Constitution and take out any unconstitutional amendments! And reinforce the Bill of Rights for all its worth! And eliminate the stupid Supreme Court decision that allows corporations to be considered an entity! That makes it to where they have no personal responsibility whatsoever!
That was a respone written live by someone called chilicharger665
Then the moderator adds:
Sometimes folks ignore... out of kindness... but since you persist...
Frankly... I think that the wisdom of the founders is being disregarded in your high tech idea... guess who owns all the encryption codes...
The purpose of this present effort is to use the power that is still there in the Constitution, and its Declaration, to remove the NWO's webs and tentacles from the still living organic Constitution and Charters of Freedom... a vampiric process which began in the mid 1860's... The goal is to reinstate the lawful government to this nation... By repeal, and sunset, and expungement as well...
As for you... The first thing you do is to grab your reader and brush up on what you would be so lightly casting aside... this may take some time since you obviously have a lot of catching up to do... Then, begin working hard to get Ron Paul elected... then finally... get back to me...
--Oldyoti
How is this different from the cops tasering the student asking a question in front of John Kerry?
Answer: It is different by degree. It is not different in principle.
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Joe Kelley
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Joe Kelley
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3hUPP_bdOo&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ewtprn%2Ecom%2F
http://www.power-independence.com/view_topic.php?id=417&forum_id=3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APs0ZrCpvEY&mode=related&search
I have a method of finding out who is honest and who is not honest.
Ask an honest question and see if an honest answer returns.
Example:
Why can't people plan on and execute a future new independence day. Following the example of many unrecognized patriots of true liberty the new Independence Day or ‘liberty day’ is a planned refusal to pay income tax (which empowers the legal criminals) and begin utilizing a replacement (competitive) currency?
If the answer is a non-answer, or, figurative gang assault, then, that is an answer.
I didn’t ask “What is the association between Alex Jones and Pat Buchanan?”
I didn’t ask that question because my question was asking for an honest answer to an honest question from Alex Jones because my opinion was crediting Alex Jones with honesty, integrity, and a source of accurate information.
I didn’t ask to be discredited in this manner.
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How about a Google on "Mockingbird"?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Mockingbird+CIA
I had to add: CIA
http://www.prisonplanet.com/analysis_louise_01_03_03_mockingbird.html
Prison Planet is first on the list.
Mockingbird was an immense financial undertaking with funds flowing from the CIA largely through the Congress for Cultural Freedom (CCF) founded by Tom Braden with Pat Buchanon of CNN's Crossfire.
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http://www.wtprn.com/
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Joe Kelley
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Sorry Joe Kelley, you are banned from using this forum!
Alex Jones is an AGENT for the DOOMS DAY PARADE
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/
If you can log onto that site, then, you are welcome to log onto that site.
I have been sent to exile for asking a question.
The following is the question that I asked:
Why can't people plan on and execute a future new independence day. Following the example of many unrecognized patriots of true liberty the new Independence Day or ‘liberty day’ is a planned refusal to pay income tax (which empowers the legal criminals) and begin utilizing a replacement (competitive) currency?
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I saved my last post to the 'moderators' at the Prison Planet Forum:
Moderator,
Do you find it easy to ignore my begging pleas for justice here?
Note how that is a question and not an accusation. If I imagined the possession of absolute perfect knowledge concerning the moderator’s thoughts then I could accuse said individuals of enjoying their execution of punishment upon me.
Make no mistake about this punishment. My character has already been damaged exactly as much as any other individual has been inspired to associate my name with the title of this current exchange.
Again – employ your sense of sympathy by placing your actual name as the ‘starter’ of this thing that is now titled “More distracting ideas about how to spend our time”.
My curiosity, absent a confession, concerning not only the reason, motive, and justification for attaching that label upon my name, not only that, but the continued public broadcasting of this injustice while I plead, again, for this deionization to cease is a curiosity that inspires the questions asked.
If you are not laughing, then, are you the only one capable of ending this application of mob rule?
I count three in the mob. Have I made more errors in your eyes? Are you simply following orders?
If you are principled, then, what is this principle? Do unto others before they have a chance to do unto you? Might makes right?
I place myself in your shoes, can you not see this, and while in your shoes, as I imagine and guess, again absent a confession, I can’t help but notice that from your view a person is begging for mercy.
What am I to make of this show of weakness?
Am I to allow him to squirm and continue to plead as long as I please?
Perhaps I should simply ignore the noise.
I am guessing and can you believe that I know I am guessing or would you rather believe that I am accusing?
The fact remains that the title next to my name is twisting my character into something unrecognizable from my point of view even if you refuse to know this fact and do something about it.
I am at your mercy.
I didn’t expect to be treated in this manner. Had I the foresight to know my innocent questions would turn into a trampling of my right to speak, or if I could turn back time, my efforts to have my question answered here would be efforts spend somewhere else.
That is not to say that I haven’t earned something. I won’t make the mistake of asking Alex Jones an honest question again; not under the current circumstances.
It is a pleasure to discuss this with you despite the unpleasant banner slapped across my face. I can understand too that the gap is too wide when there really is no will to span it.
Why?
As to the point concerning action and timing from your stated viewpoint: How did I miss this? How do you know I missed this? I responded to your words. Why am I always guilty without so much as a question asked concerning the crime I’m being accused of committing?
Did I not read your words accurately when you state that I missed your point?
From my view your repeating of your point reinforces my conception of your point the first time you stated your point.
Now is where someone may accuse me of argumentation for the sake of argumentation and that someone may or may not be you. I can’t say. I can ask. I may receive and honest answer.
I may even return here soon to find the title of this thing adjusted into something more accurate and less twisted from my viewpoint.
For anyone entertaining the notion that the title is, in fact, accurate I am inspired to repeat the question that seeks an accurate answer (not expecting an accurate answer, rather, leaving my efforts explained):
Why can't people plan on and execute a future new independence day. Following the example of many unrecognized patriots of true liberty the new Independence Day or ‘liberty day’ is a planned refusal to pay income tax (which empowers the legal criminals) and begin utilizing a replacement (competitive) currency?
Is that question my crime worthy of this punishment?
A simple answer could have avoided any sense of argument whatsoever.
Such as:
Don’t ask that question here again or ‘we’ will move your words into another thread titled “More distracting ideas about how to spend our time”.
Having that punishment for asking my question clearly mapped out for me I could have distanced myself from this forum immediately.
I was not given that option. The punishment was inflicted without any notice whatsoever despite my requests for accurate information concerning any chance of receiving an answer from the person asked.
Same with people. Are you trying to unite a following with your ideals? I'm not laughing, I'm being serious with my question. Thank you for responding.
At this time the reader may wonder when I am going to get off my high horse. I am guessing again. I am suffering every time I check the title of my efforts here; is that not reasonable?
I am asking a question. Why does that twist into a ‘following with your ideals’? The gap is too wide here since the phrase is foreign. To me the word ‘ideals’ suggests some fantasy. Liberty is not a fantasy. When I look for friends of liberty I do not seek a union of followers sharing an ideal. That is a poor guess. I am glad to have the opportunity to clear this up and make liberty clear just in case liberty is not clear.
Liberty is a burden. When a friend of liberty is suffering under criminal punishment then all the friends of liberty suffer. Failing to seek a remedy is avoiding the burden.
At this time the veteran may imagine anything concerning his or her credit for duty expended toward the cause of liberty. I have no such credit. That does not mean that having no such credit places me in a position to seek a following for my ideals.
I simply asked a question.
I’m still asking and will continue to ask because my question will be answered sooner or later.
What is wrong with seeking the answer sooner rather than later?
The reader may have forgotten the question.
Why can't people plan on and execute a future new independence day. Following the example of many unrecognized patriots of true liberty the new Independence Day or ‘liberty day’ is a planned refusal to pay income tax (which empowers the legal criminals) and begin utilizing a replacement (competitive) currency?
The reader may agree with the title:
“More distracting ideas about how to spend our time.”
Sooner or later people will answer my question.
The sooner income tax is no longer paid the sooner the criminal mass murderers will have to find honest work.
The sooner a new currency is flowing through society the same thing happens.
Later is not good just as earlier would have been better.
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http://forum.wearechange.org/YaBB.pl?num=1190738772/0
http://www.power-independence.com/view_topic.php?id=417&forum_id=3&jump_ to=1556
I am one person - alone.
This is a public forum or it is private property.
You, one of you, (or you decide as a group) have my question in your hands:
Quote:
Why can't people plan on and execute a future new independence day. Following the example of many unrecognized patriots of true liberty the new Independence Day or ‘liberty day’ is a planned refusal to pay income tax (which empowers the legal criminals) and begin utilizing a replacement (competitive) currency?
Why would anyone censor that question?
Who?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=No+More+Legal+Criminals
Whom?
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Bill Cooper Exposes Alex Jones As A Lying Fraud: Part 1
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IMPORTANT NOTICE
Dear Friends and Listeners,
At the request of Genesis Communications Network, we are no longer allowed to broadcast "The Alex Jones Show." We regret this move because it has always been our belief that the more venues for information the better the odds in our fight for freedom. Sadly, we were also notified that we are no longer allowed to broadcast "Deadline Live" with Jack Blood. We will miss Jack's humor and cutting edge coverage of the important events from around the world. We will continue to work with people and groups who have a sincere interest in saving our Constitutional Republic from tyranny.
Because of these forced changes we are happy to bring you more great shows as follows: "The Global Reality" with Josh Reeves, weekdays from 11 AM to 3 PM Central, Josh will give you the truth you won't hear on any other network. Following Josh will be "The American Awakening" with Michael Herzog, weekdays from 3 PM to 4 PM Central. Michael specializes in serious topics often relating to freedom and financial security. We are also happy to announce the return of the first hour of "The Intelligence Report" with Mark Koernke, weekdays from 4 PM to 6 PM Central. Please check the "Schedule" and "Broadcasters" navbar links for more show information.
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InfoWarsTV.com Supporters,
We recently learned that Google may have connections to the Central
Intelligence Agency (CIA). We cannot in good conscience continue to fund
InfoWarsTV.com with Google. Recently I was contacted by Eric Nordstrom.
Eric is the man who created the original Ron Paul Moneybomb website and
also the first InfoWars Moneybomb. He helped to raise millions for Ron
Paul and then helped to raise $230,000.00 for Alex Jones. He contacted
me to let me know he is Vice President of PyraBang Inc., a patriot owned
alternative to Digg.com and Google Adsense. PyraBang's mission is to
support independent media.
He came up with a plan for us all to keep InfoWarsTV.com alive and growing!
Here is the plan:
To keep InfoWarsTV.com alive and growing we need hundreds of you to
sponsor us. We do NOT want to use Google, so PyraBang is a good
alternative. What do we need? We need you to go and get your own account
on PyraBang. Here is the link to support us financially!
http://pyrabang.com/go/infowarstv
We need you to get a gold account. Getting a gold account will allow you
to post links to InfoWarsTV.com videos and member pages. Just like with
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thousands of websites and RSS feeds. InfoWarsTV.com will then be huge
and your videos will go viral on other networks as well. A gold account
is only $5.95 per month. Here is the trick... PyraBang and the Gold accounts
are an inverted MoneyBomb! Eric Nordstrom said that the reason they
invented PyraBang is due to something G. Edward Griffin and Bob Schulz
said, "If you want to defend freedom, you must have power." We all post
information on Digg.com and Google.com - when we do that, Digg and
Google make money! When we post on PyraBang, WE make the money.
Nordstrom said, "The only way we can be the media is to ensure we don't
fund the big corporations and at the same time, we need to ensure WE are
able to earn money ourselves. Each PyraBang Gold member has equal
opportunity and unlike YouTube, Digg or others, WE DO NOT and WILL NEVER
CENSOR!. --- Can imagine an Army of InfoWarriors or We Are Changers
armed with the financing to be able to purchase better equipment and be
able to travel to events to cover them? We have got to get the
non-patriot nation to fund the revolution here. The other problem we
have is that there are a few very successful people in the info war who
like to smother any other competition. Using advertising to support
InfoWarsTV.com won't do you much good until you are humongous, so you
cannot depend on advertising. Donations don't work because our numbers
aren't growing as fast as we need them to be. So the only way we, the
independent media can survive is to have sponsors. There are thousands
of folks out there who absolutely want to help support and sponsor good
ideas. I know that I will be sponsoring you guys. You have my $5.95 per
month to ensure we have an alternative to YouTube that is worth a damn.
Just ask the patriot force out there... they kick ass and are willing to
defend and ensure the truth gets out their with their blood and sweat,
asking for $5.95 per month sponsorship is a tiny request to get this
juggernaut going. Anyone who poo poos it is a ninny and just doesn't get
it. The ninnies are the people who look like they are supportive, but
when it comes to either putting in 15 hours work days or throwing in
with a few bucks, they bitch and moan while the creators of these media
outlets, starve themselves to fund something that the ninnies use. We
don't have Wall Street, Main Street or other more well known talk show
hosts to back the projects! If the patriots don't fund it all... it will
fall. But more than that, if we can't find a way to fund the patriots,
it's even worse. PyraBang gives each of us a method of doing a Robin
hood. Take from the Britany Spears population and give to the defenders
of the Constitution!"
This sounds good to me! If you want to keep InfoWarsTV going, let's make
this happen. Please go and sign up to PyraBang, here is my landing page
http://pyrabang.com/go/infowarstv then be sure to get a GOLD account in
PyraBang.
When you have gone gold in PyraBang do two things, send me your PyraBang
username so I can show who is supporting us, if you have a website you
would like to advertise on InfoWarsTV.com send me the link for all to
see. Second, I need you to post the hell out of all the videos into
PyraBang. That's it. Nothing more to do after that to support us.
Oh, the last thing is, once you have your own Gold Member PyraBang
account, be sure to invite everyone you know to your own PyraBang
landing page. YOU can actually make a living posting links in PyraBang
and inviting others to join up and do the same[highlight= rgb(255,255,153)]. We will flood the
internet! Your landing page url will look like
http://pyrabang.com/go/infowarstv - except in place of infowarstv, will
be your username.
Nordstrom said to tell you, if you need help or have questions you can
contact him either by email: eric@nordstrom1.com or by skype: eieoeoo
Nordstrom also said, "Right now we have over 8000 people in PyraBang. A
majority of them know very little about the patriot movement. If you
guys can get the Good Guys in the door at PyraBang and have them flood
the non-patriots with video links, well.. PyraBang will become a massive
patriot factory. It will convert thousands into fellow patriots. This
will increase our numbers in the movement! The idea behind PyraBang is
to attract sheeple, then once they are locked into PyraBang, they have
no choice but to be bombarded with truth."
InfoWars Moneybomb had 13000 donators, I need a minimum of 700 PyraBang
sponsors to totally support InfoWarsTV.com, very doable.
Let's do this! You are invited: http://pyrabang.com/go/infowarstv
Chris
IWTV
P.S. Please be sure to pass this email to a buddy! Thanks.
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http://www.lewrockwell.com/celente/celente45.1.html
Gerald Celente: US Depression Will Lead to Another Fake War
Note the power mentions.
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