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| Posted: Mon Nov 11th, 2013 03:03 pm |
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Joe Kelley Administrator
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I use the words good and evil in reference to word tax loosely, or even recklessly. A tax is neither good or bad, those who employ a tax are either guilty of mind, intending to injure innocent people with a "tax" or those who employ a tax are not guilty of mind and even then those who employ a tax that are not guilty of mind may be "just following orders" of those who are guilty of mind, or those who are not guilty of mind may be employing a tax so as to earn mutual benefit that excepts no one, excludes no one, and does not injure anyone. Here is a source of information whereby my efforts to study this angle of view (tax) is presently focused: A History of Annuities My thanks goes to Frank O'Collins for his valuable help in bringing to light the subject of Annuities, and also the help of Benjamin Franklin. How do taxed move from voluntary investments intending to increase economic power so as to increase the standard of living and lower the cost of living TO (from good use TO evil use) involuntary extortion payments made by victims to criminals whereby the criminals are hiding their crimes behind a false front of authority? The Bubble Act 1720 Note: Criminals figure out how to steal everything produced by their victims. The worst criminals are by accurate measure those who are best at it. Simple terms? 1. People who are moral, live by The Golden Rule (or some other voluntary association methodology), and produce something worth stealing. 2. People who steal. 3. A method of moving Power to Purchase (a.k.a. money) from each individual producer into one central location called a FUND. 4. The Power to Purchase collected into the FUND is increases or decreased from ZERO into a Positive Store of actual valuable wealth/capital/Economic power or Negative Promise to Pay based upon future productive capacity potentially sent into the FUND. 5. The Power to Purchase purchases effective defense against criminals or purchases Voluntary Association or purchases Liberty or purchases crime prevention or purchases protection of the innocent from harm by criminals. 6. The Power to Purchase purchases effective defense against defense against criminals (a.k.a. Involuntary Association) or Crime made Legal, or taking from those who earn and then using the stolen loot to steal more from those who earn anything worth stealing. If it is called an Annuity, but it moves power from earners to criminals, then it is crime by another false name. American Example: In 1792 the Universal Tontine was organized in Philadelphia. It was contemplated, no doubt, at that time to transact business in all states then constituting the Federal Union. The originators of this plan included citizens of Philadelphia and Boston. The scheme was based upon the idea of the Boston Tontine Association established in 1791. This latter association failed in its original intent and ultimately became the state bank. A similar proposal in New York City also came to naught, but out of the Universal Tontine in Philadelphia, there developed the Insurance Company of North America. What is written in The Constitution of The Boston Tontine Association?
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| Posted: Fri Nov 29th, 2013 01:32 pm |
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Joe Kelley Administrator
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In the History of Annuities information there is a reference to: Waardje van Lyfrenten naer proportie van Losrenten Which is an offer to fund defense against Aggressive War for Profit by investments made by investors seeking to profit by investments offered by "government" or legal means. Investors buy (pay for) promises to be paid back the entire purchase price of the (bond/annuity/whatever) plus interest on that National Debt (ponzi scheme) which is based upon the potential capacity to produce more Purchasing Power out of less Purchasing Power within the Nation State, which was then Holland. See? People are here. There are those people. Those people, in Liberty, can produce a lot of things worth stealing, if they are not attacked, and captured, and enslaved by foreigners who invade that country, so as to take over that economic POWER. Purchasing Power. How much Purchasing Power is "up for grabs" in Holland? Someone proposes, by way of mathematical calculation, that there is this much "gravy" that is "up for grabs" in Holland, and that much Power (Future Economic Wealth) can be SPENT in this way or that way: A. Making investors more powerful by this much "interest" B. Making investors more powerful by this much, this much exactly, which is not "interest" but it is instead "protecting and serving" the potential to produce economic power (Liberty) In other words: What is the reward for defending Liberty? Is the reward for defending Liberty a reward in and of itself, on its face? Is the reward for defending Liberty the fact that Liberty (Future Power to Purchase) is protected and Liberty (Future Power to Purchase) is served? OR Is the reward for defending Liberty a reward that moves Purchasing Power from those who actually earn it to those who are then stealing it in very "interesting" ways that become usury or iniquity or crime made legal, or central banking fraud combined with "National Interest" extortion? Is it worth the effort to translate accurately? De Witts Treatise on Life Annuities See? Liberty is here (many volunteers volunteering to defend the innocent against all criminals foreign and domestic including the criminals with false badges and false authority over money and government). Liberty is here. What do the criminals want? In Liberty those people produce, in Liberty, a rapidly increasing standard of living while those people produce, in Liberty, a rapidly decreasing cost of living by their own voluntary enterprising spirit of not settling for less when they can produce more at a rate that is in their own best interest, each and every one of those people in Liberty. How best can the criminals get that RATE of increase? The answer is simple. The Criminals claim that they too are friends in Liberty and all that the other friends of Liberty need to do to defend Liberty is to give it up. That sounds too simple? Is that too obviously a lie for any caring person in Liberty to believe? A Voluntary Insurance Policy whereby investors choose to either pay into, or not pay into, a Voluntary Insurance Policy can be one that is invented by the people, produced by the people, and maintained for the people, so as to defend the presumed to be innocent people in Liberty against all criminals foreign and domestic and defend all the innocent people against all criminals foreign and domestic even when those criminals falsely claim to be authorities. Here is an individual. There are the criminals. There are the innocent people. The individual is human, and able to respond, or responsible, as criminals injure innocent people. A form of response, or a form of responsibility, for an individual in Liberty is a choice to invest into a collective FUND which is a voluntary insurance policy that earns the investor a benefit called Liberty. The investor can pay into the FUND while the obvious measure of Liberty is the accurately measurable return on that investment into that FUND. As soon as an investor is no longer receiving the obvious, and accurately measurable, benefit of Liberty, then the investor has the obvious responsibility in Liberty to stop those payments that are now accurately measurable as Extortion Payments. The switch from voluntary association into involuntary association is the switch from investments into Liberty seeking to defend the innocent from harm against criminals, and NO OTHER BENEFIT, becomes crime made legal when the investor is no longer able to choose to stop those payments that are obviously payments being made by people in Liberty to criminals running a Ponzi Scheme. Here is a person expecting a monetary gain for their purchase of a product that feeds off of the innocence of productive people in Liberty. How much does a person gain at the expense of targeted, innocent, productive people in Liberty? What is the National Interest Rate paid to those investors who invest in Crime made Legal? Are you lost? How do you measure your rate of loss? Are you one of those who have been duped into believing that you can get something for nothing? How much do you get for your investments? What is your rate of return? Are you one of the Creditors or are you one of the Debtors in the current Ponzi Scheme that is denominated in Federal Reserve Notes? When will all the investors pull out of that something for nothing fraud before it is no longer profitable for the so called investors? When will the so called "tax payers" no longer be able to afford to pay anything more into that FUND? True Valuation of Annuities, Leases, Fines, and Reversion William Webster 1620 ?
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