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The people demanding a legitimate democratic assignment of leadership POWER (that can be revoked by the people) hereby attest to our POWER in numbers.

We hereby assign ourselves as leaders of the free world to be counted as such by any other pretenders to the throne. Any laws made by any one of us will apply to every other of us from now on until the extinction of the human race.

Any one pretending to be above the law will be viewed by us as a person volunteering to go outside the universal law.

Universal law applies to everyone equally and blindly.

We the innocent and law abiding citizens of the world attest to our POWER in enforcing universal law by revoking all licenses now enforcing prejudice of any kind upon the innocent; we do so by signing this public petition.

No longer will the power to punish be wielded by criminals. When our number reaches critical mass - legalized crime will no longer be tolerated. We will throw the criminals out of office. No more. No less.

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The thing about impeachment, if I can suggest that such a thing can exist in fact, is to stamp legitimacy to the notion that anyone can accuse anyone else of doing anything wrong regardless of how powerful or weak you or your accuser may be at any given moment in time.

Is this too tough to understand? Example: Person A accuses person B of mass murder that rivals the worst mass murderer in history and/or not wearing a seat belt.

Person B is investigated and the evidence suggests that the accusation could be true. Such evidence like the following:

A.      Piles of bodies rotting in the sun.

B.      No obvious or visible seat belt in view as person B passes person A

We, the human race, surely can’t afford to chase each other around accusing each other of every possible crime and setting in motion a frantic exponential cost that can never be paid – ever.

We, the human race, on the other hand can’t afford to let one man start world war three because god told him it was the right thing to do?

That last question can compare with the previous statement of fact.

You must be your own judge on this one, cause, the other judges have abdicated.

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Number one on planet Earth.

Before moving on with my chores today I am going to write something in the effort to add some persepctive.

Before anyone even though about signing the Declaration of Independence a writer wrote something called 'Common Sense'.

Here is a bit of common sense:

http://www.ushistory.org/Paine/commonsense/index.htm

SOME writers have so confounded society with government, as to leave little or no distinction between them; whereas they are not only different, but have different origins. Society is produced by our wants, and government by our wickedness; the former promotes our happiness POSITIVELY by uniting our affections, the latter NEGATIVELY by restraining our vices. The one encourages intercourse, the other creates distinctions. The first is a patron, the last a punisher.

Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one: for when we suffer, or are exposed to the same miseries BY A GOVERNMENT, which we might expect in a country WITHOUT GOVERNMENT, our calamity is heightened by reflecting that we furnish the means by which we suffer. Government, like dress, is the badge of lost innocence; the palaces of kings are built upon the ruins of the bowers of paradise. For were the impulses of conscience clear, uniform and irresistibly obeyed, man would need no other lawgiver; but that not being the case, he finds it necessary to surrender up a part of his property to furnish means for the protection of the rest; and this he is induced to do by the same prudence which in every other case advises him, out of two evils to choose the least. Wherefore, security being the true design and end of government, it unanswerably follows that whatever form thereof appears most likely to ensure it to us, with the least expense and greatest benefit, is preferable to all others.

Here is the Declaration of Independence:

http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/document/index.htm

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

The people who signed the Declaration of Independence were in on it. I can explain further. Those people didn't have as much to fear as you.

I understand this to be true, yet, I signed.

Why do you not sign?

No pressure. I'm not suggesting that you should sign. It cannot be denied, ever, that the petition did not exist. You can sign it.

You have that choice.

You may not have that choice in the future.

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I sometimes read something profound and then I misplace it.

I found it again. Where should I place it?

"The aide said that guys like me were 'in what we call the reality-based community,' which he defined as people who 'believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.' I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. 'That's not the way the world really works anymore,' he continued. 'We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality – judiciously, as you will – we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors.... and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.'"

http://www.lewrockwell.com/engelhardt/engelhardt282.html

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My petition intends to accomplish something specific.

A. Find out if anyone besides me will sign the petition.

There are a few more accomplishments intended. Those are self-evident too.

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"They might kill me tonight"

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Elections will not prevent a president Clinton from declaring you an enemy combatant and shipping you off to Guantanamo. They won’t prevent a president Obama from sweeping up Americans and holding them indefinitely on his word alone. They won’t prevent a president Guiliani from illegally and immorally murdering millions of Iranians for no legitimate reason. They won’t prevent a president Romney from seizing your home and assets because he alleges you are impeding operations in Iraq. It won’t prevent a president Thompson from exempting himself, his entire administration and his political supporters from the rule of law. It won’t prevent any president from leaving the nation unprotected by ignoring or rewriting the intelligence to suit his or her political agenda. Elections won’t guarantee that anyone you elect to lead or represent you has to tell you, the congress or the judiciary the truth.

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Anyone,

Either torture and mass murder is cause for impeachment or the rule of law has no meaning.

I think this is a test of ‘the rule of law’.

See?

How many people will raise their hand if they had to judge the legitimacy of ‘the rule of law’?

Example:

Is torture and mass murder cause for action against those acts?

Yes or No

If the answer is NO, then, is anything worthy of action against action?

Seat belt usage

See?

Did I lose anyone?

If action against torturing mass murderers and action that intends, at least, to slow down the torture and decrease the number of mass murdered – at least – if that is not ‘justified’, then, how can enforcing a seat belt law be justified?

The effort to impeach is not specious or symbolic. The effort intends to do something specific. Is it right or is it not right to accomplish the specific thing intended to be acted out – in fact?

How about a simplified version?

Allow the criminal to go on committing crimes
Do something to take away that POWER from that criminal

To suggest, if that is the suggestion, that taking away that POWER is criminal, unjustified, or perhaps unreasonable defies my sense of reason. I’m just one potential torture victim who may be murdered by that specific criminal if he pleases to torture or murder me – with impunity. Then again I may merely be another ‘conspiracy theorist’ like, perhaps, Dennis Kucinich, since, he is the one trying to get the trial started – in the senate.

Ron Paul, on the other hand, is saying that he will do this or do that if he is elected president. Ron Paul is not supporting impeachment. Impeachment is merely a trial conducted in the Senate. No trial – no impeachment. If the criminal is found innocent during the trial, then, either the criminal is supported for his crimes by the senate, or, the criminal isn’t committing crimes. My guess is that a trial in the Senate, at this time, will lead to a conviction by the public at large and the criminals will have to elect a new criminal. My guess is that more trials in the Senate will slow down the torture and the mass murder. The criminals will be too busy falsifying their crimes in the face of public exposure if more trials are conducted in the Senate as directed by the members of the House of Representatives when crimes are suspected such as the evidence may suggest; like torture victims and piles of bodies that have appeared not to have died of natural causes. When the number of torture victims reaches a number were your neighbor or your loved one is among that number, then, I suppose more support will go toward the effort to slow down the torturing. That is my guess. I’m also going to guess that being tortured may also inspire more support against torture. Being murdered is beyond my ability to guess what that may inspire.

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The use of proxy mercenary forces to terrorize nations into submitting to US political demands has been the cornerstone of American foreign policy since at least the era of the Berlin Wall, and it still is.

"Terrorism - the use of violence and threats to intimidate or to coerce, esp. for political purposes."

According to this definition from Dictionary.com, the government of the United States of America is the primary source of state terrorism in the world.

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Since Pelosi, Reid and the other Democratic leaders in Congress appear to be too afraid to hold Bush and Cheney responsible for their numerous crimes, the Vermont town of Brattleboro has taken matters into its own hands:

BRATTLEBORO, Vt. - The tone has changed in e-mails this Vermont town has been receiving on its proposal to issue warrants for the arrests of President Bush and Vice President Cheney. Now, more people are supporting the resolution.

Brattleboro's town offices have been flooded with 7,000 e-mails since its selectboard voted Jan. 25 to include the item on its Town Meeting Day agenda.

Some of the earliest messages received were so full of vitriol that town officials said they were worried for their safety. Some writers called Brattleboro a bastion of "liberal appeaser wimps" and "wackjobs" for even considering the warrants.

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But that's what you get when the cops and judges and prosecutors are the criminals.

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http://www.rawstory.com/news/mochila/Pelosi_wants_Bush_aides_investigate_02282008.html

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi asked the Justice Department on Thursday to open a grand jury investigation into whether President Bush's chief of staff and former counsel should be prosecuted for contempt of Congress.

Pot calling the kettle criminal.

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Too Many Years of a Criminal Regime! 5 Years of Illegitimate War! End It! Drive the War Criminals from Office!

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U.N. Official Calls for Study Of Neocons' Role in 9/11

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In addition to inquiries into the above grave criminal misconduct and other gross abuses of power, we urge that Judiciary Committee hearings include an inquiry into the use of false propaganda by members of the Bush administration, which has served as the source for articles in the news media that misled many of the people in the United States and elsewhere concerning the supposed “threat” posed by Saddam Hussein and the execution of the war. When our government lies to the people, with the aid of an inept and credulous news media, our democracy is at grave risk.

http://restoreruleoflaw.com/#usermessagea

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The police state in this country is very real, and for any who do not understand the truly violent nature of law enforcement, it is worth considering the costs of non-compliance. The truly unique thing about Waco was not just that so many innocent people lost their lives. The unique thing was that people resisted.* And that’s why they lost their lives.

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http://fora.tv/2007/07/31/Bob_Barr_American_Freedom_Agenda

Do those people keep up with current affiars?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJYbgouqlMw

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http://www.startribune.com/politics/19174504.html

Minneapolis activist will ask that President Bush be tried for war crimes. Ed Felien wants Hennepin County Attorney Mike Freeman to convene a grand jury.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/08/anti-lieberman-group-deli_n_111525.html

"We CANNOT tolerate a leader of the Senate Democratic Caucus who supports George Bush and McCain's War in Iraq. We CANNOT tolerate a Democratic chairman of the Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee who endorses and stumps for McCain," the petition reads.

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http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Kucinich_to_bring_single_article_of_0708.html

Few in the House of Representatives have any intention of doing anything with the last 35 articles of impeachment Kucinich set before them last month, so the former presidential candidate appears to be lightening the load. Kucinich sent a letter to colleagues Tuesday asking them to support a single article of impeachment, to be introduced Thursday, which accuses President Bush of leading the country to war based on lies.

A simple majority in The House of Representatives (representing whom?) will cause a legal impeachment.

That is a simple majority that does IMPEACH - end of story.

Then the IMPEACHED are tried in the Senate.

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Tell the House Judiciary Committee to hold Karl Rove in contempt and send him to jail.

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The House Judiciary Committee will hold a hearing on one of Ohio Congressman Dennis Kucinich's 35 articles of impeachment against President Bush. But House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and other Democratic leaders in the chamber have signaled that they do not want the committee -- let alone the full House -- to take a vote on impeachment.

How's that?

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Obama, The Prince Of Bait-And-Switch

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We really ought to be inspired by the 4 courageous Iowans who dared to try to hold Rove accountable for his crimes. Government officials, no matter how high-ranking, should be prevented from even walking the street without fear of arrest, if they are guilty of a crime.

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In Contempt Vote on Karl Rove, the Ayes Have It

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The House rules?

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Now, it appears the House cannot start impeachment proceedings unless a president and his party would agree to turn over incriminating evidence. Of course, the use of a president’s authority to conceal or destroy evidence in such an investigation is itself a potentially impeachable offense. Pelosi prevented a John Dean from coming forward by barring the hearing. In past hearings, we have seen former Bush officials implicate the Administration in investigations such a the firing of the US Attorneys. Indeed, if this is Pelosi’s rationale for barring impeachment, why is the House pursuing contempt on these other investigations? It appears that a lack of cooperation does not end matters that the House wants to address.

The biggest problem, however, is that the crimes are hiding in plain view. A federal court has already found the domestic surveillance program was unlawful and there is no question as to the torture question — as found by the International Red Cross when it informed Bush that war crimes charges could be brought.

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HOUSTON (Reuters) - A grand jury in South Texas indicted U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney and former attorney General Alberto Gonzales on Tuesday for "organized criminal activity" related to alleged abuse of inmates in private prisons.

The indictment has not been seen by a judge, who could dismiss it.

The grand jury in Willacy County, in the Rio Grande Valley near the U.S.-Mexico border, said Cheney is "profiteering from depriving human beings of their liberty," according to a copy of the indictment obtained by Reuters.

The indictment cites a "money trail" of Cheney's ownership in prison-related enterprises including the Vanguard Group, which owns an interest in private prisons in south Texas.

Former attorney general Gonzales used his position to "stop the investigations as to the wrong doings" into assaults in county prisons, the indictment said.

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE4AI11B20081119?rpc=64

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Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue, and its no way to begin an administration that was elected on promises of change. What it says is that if you're one of the elite and powerful, your violations of the law will be overlooked, no matter how much damage you did to our country’s standing in the world.

What signal does it send to Mr. Bush's gang of unindicted co-conspirators, who've unwrapped a Pandora’s boxful of other offenses — from perverting the administration of justice, to illegally eavesdropping on the phone conversations and e-mails of ordinary Americans, to salting the stream of intelligence with bogus material, to inviting their cronies to loot the Treasury with no-bid military contracts, to lying under oath to congressional oversight committees, to applying political litmus tests to the hiring of civil service employees to the wholesale destruction of White House e-mails and records? Etcetera. Etcetera.

This nation was founded on the principle of equal justice under the law. No one — no one — ought to be able to skate or hold a get-out-of-jail-free card by virtue of having been the most powerful felon in the land, or of working for him.

This signal on torture investigations says that Sen. Obama wants to start his administration as a uniter, not a divider, trying to untangle the unholy mess that the Decider and Co. are leaving behind them in the economy, in our military, in virtually every walk of our national life. It speaks to his desire to reach across the aisle to the defeated Republicans and try to bring them back into the fold as Americans.

That's all well and good, but not if it comes at the cost of lifting the blindfold off Justice’s eyes and letting her pick and choose who'll pay for criminal acts and who won't. That's no way to begin, and no way to continue.

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A murdered inmate in a private prison..leads to an audit... leads to the discovery of corruption...leads to an indictment of Dick Cheney and former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.

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It requires no crystal ball to see that we are embedded in a system that has no qualms about harassing old men in wheelchairs or making pregnant women walk through x-ray machines. It is the same system that is killing scores of Iraqi and Afghan civilians daily, and killing the planet systemically. It is a system that requires us to be sleepwalkers, rather than alert and sensitive humans.

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Constitutionally, Bush could pardon everyone involved in formulating and executing the administration's interrogation techniques without providing specifics or naming names.

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“I think that there’s a lot that remains to look at, and I appreciate that President Obama doesn’t want to make it his purpose as a new president, with America in real distress in many directions, to go back and look at all this, but I think we in Congress have an independent responsibility, and I fully intend to discharge that responsibility,” Whitehouse said.

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The subpoena, approved by an earlier vote of the House, was issued pursuant to "authority granted in H.R. 5 (111th Congress), and calls for Mr. Rove to appear at deposition on Monday, February 2, 2009."

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Monday, the United Nations Special Rapporteur on Torture Manfred Nowak told CNN's Rick Sanchez that the US has an "obligation" to investigate whether Bush administration officials ordered torture, adding that he believes that there is already enough evidence to prosecute former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld.

"We have clear evidence," he said. "In our report that we sent to the United Nations, we made it clear that former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld clearly authorized torture methods and he was told at that time by Alberto Mora, the legal council of the Navy, 'Mr. Secretary, what you are actual ordering here amounts to torture.' So, there we have the clear evidence that Mr. Rumsfeld knew what he was doing but, nevertheless, he ordered torture."

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When President Obama declared flatly this week that "the United States will not torture" many people wrongly believed that he'd shut the practice down, when in fact he'd merely repositioned it.

Obama's Executive Order bans some -- not all -- US officials from torturing but it does not ban any of them, himself included, from sponsoring torture overseas.

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Colorado Files Gold Money Bill

HB 09-1206, The Colorado Honest Money Act

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Revitalized Union?

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PRELIMINARY MEMORANDUM OF THE JUSTICE ROBERT H. JACKSON CONFERENCE ON FEDERAL PROSECUTIONS OF WAR CRIMINALS

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I. INTRODUCTION.

An extensive complaint seeking federal prosecution of American officials who ordered, authorized, approved or committed war crimes is currently being prepared. While the complaint is in preparation, the Steering Committee of the Justice Robert H. Jackson Conference is issuing this preliminary memorandum setting forth several of the points to be presented more extensively in the complaint itself. Such points include the acts of torture and abuse which constitute war crimes, the high level individuals of the American Government who ordered, authorized, or approved these acts plus some of the lower level officials who committed them, and the warnings of illegality and immorality given to the culpable American officials -- as news of their secret actions slowly began to percolate within the Executive branch -- by persons ranging from FBI officials on the ground, to other executive investigative personnel on the ground, to military Judge Advocates General, to general counsels of the armed services. These warnings of illegality and immorality given by knowledgeable and experienced persons were ignored by the small group of high Executive officers who were determined that America would torture and abuse its prisoners and who had the decisionmaking power to secretly require this to be done.

We note that the information in this preliminary memorandum on criminal acts, officials who authorized them or carried them out, and warnings of criminality and illegality which were ignored, has become available in the last four years in a host of investigatory books, investigatory articles, initially secret government memoranda which have now been publicly released, internal governmental investigations, statements of present and former governmental officials and generals (e.g., Dick Cheney and Antonio Taguba), investigatory television programs, legal complaints and other legal documents, transcripts of interviews, congressional hearings and congressional reports (such as the recent report of the Senate Armed services’ Committees).

Among the books which extensively detail the matters written of here are Jane Mayer’s The Dark Side, Philippe Sands’ The Torture Team, Jack Goldsmith’s The Terror Presidency (Goldsmith is a former head of the Office of Legal Counsel), and Steven Wax’s Kafka Comes To America.

II. ACTS OF TORTURE AND ABUSE, AND THE LAWS THEY VIOLATED.

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Thanks to the public's outcry, the torturers-in-chief could soon face prosecution. Click this link to help our movement grow and popularize the demand for the indictment of Bush.Dear Joseph,

The government's effort to stop prosecution has backfired. In the last few days the demands from people around the country and the world for the investigation and prosecution of Bush Administration torture officials has caused a dramatic shift in the U.S. political scene. IndictBushNow has mounted a major campaign flooding Congressional representatives with demands for justice and a constituent letter writing campaign to newspapers around the country.

Please click here to make a donation to help us keep up the momentum and support these efforts at this most important moment.

Under growing pressure from the people, President Obama has made a significant departure from the his position of last week that, "nothing will be gained by spending our time and energy laying blame for the past." Just today he stated that the prosecution of those who authorized the sadistic torture tactics "is going to be more of a decision for the attorney general within the parameters of various laws and I don't want to prejudge that."

Events are starting to break quickly:

The New York Times on Sunday issued a major editorial, "The Torturers' Manifesto," that began, "To read the four newly released memos on prisoner interrogation written by George W. Bush’s Justice Department is to take a journey into depravity." The editorial continued:

"Until Americans and their leaders fully understand the rules the Bush administration concocted to justify such abuses and who set the rules and who approved them there is no hope of fixing a profoundly broken system of justice and ensuring that that these acts are never repeated....

"And if the administration will not conduct a thorough investigation of these issues, then Congress has a constitutional duty to hold the executive branch accountable. If that means putting Donald Rumsfeld and Alberto Gonzales on the stand, even Dick Cheney, we are sure Americans can handle it. "

This view is being echoed by both major newspapers and local publications all over the country. There is no stepping back now.

Today's front page of the New York Times has this headline: "Pressure Mounts on President Obama for a More Thorough Investigation." The article goes on to say that the release of the torture memos has "provoked a furor that continued to grow on Monday as critics on various fronts assailed his position."

Congressional officials have called for accountability. Diane Feinstein, chair of Senate Intelligence Committee has issued a letter to the Obama Administration requesting that it withhold decisions on prosecution until the Committee is able to conduct a thorough investigation.

Feeling the heat, Dick Cheney has taken a gamble and gone on television to state that more memos should be released. As New York Magazine wrote this morning, "The more the American public learns and thinks about all of this, the more it's going to ask for someone's head ..."

We have extraordinary momentum on our side right now and we must seize the moment to make indictment and prosecution a reality. We must use all available means including newspaper ads, organizing constituent pressure on Congress, and intensive media and outreach work. Please take action right now to support the efforts of IndictBushNow by clicking here to make a critically needed donation. We need your help.

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A future where torture isn't wrong?

Ask the torturers?

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NO Voting Machines.
Paper Ballots.
Public Counting.
Clean Elections.
Liberty!

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http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/05/18/torture/index.html

The 13 people who made torture possible

1. Dick Cheney, vice president (2001-2009)

David Addington

Alberto Gonzales

George Tenet

Condoleezza Rice

John Yoo

Jay Bybee

William "Jim" Haynes

Donald Rumsfeld

Steven Bradbury

George W. Bush

http://informationclearinghouse.info/article22607.htm

If you are a poor, hapless Afghan civilian whose family's bodies were ripped apart by U.S. bombs, does it really make a difference to you if the air "strikes" were ordered by the Moron from Texas, George W Bush, or the Agent of Change, Barack Obama?

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An Invitation to Join the Peace Movement

To: True Majority, Moveon.org, Open Left, David Sirota, TPM, Campaign for America's Future, the Center for American Progress, and Daily Kos

The following groups and individuals are working very hard to block a war supplemental bill in Congress that would fund the continued war and occupation of Iraq and an escalated war and occupation in Afghanistan: After Downing Street, American Friends Service Committee, Nick Baumann, Brave New Films, Jennifer Brunner, Brendan Calling, Cindy Sheehan, Code Pink, Dday, Declaration of Peace, Democrats.com, Digby, Docudharma, FireDogLake, Bruce Gagnon, Glenn Greenwald, the Hip Hop Caucus, Howie Klein, Iraq Veterans Against the War, Just Foreign Policy, The Nation, Cynthia McKinney, Linda Milazzo, Michael Moore, Military Families Speak Out, Out of Iraq Blogger Caucus, Patriot Daily, Peace Action, Progressive Democrats of America, Jason Rosenbaum, Coleen Rowley, Jonathan Tasini, True Maine Blue, Doug Tudor, United for Peace and Justice, US Labor Against the War, Veterans for Peace, Voters for Peace, Joan Wile, Marcy Winograd, World Can't Wait, and the Young Turks.

We could use your help.

We've elected majorities to Congress to get us out of Iraq in 2006 and 2008. But we've allowed Congress to toy with us. 51 Democrats voted against the current war supplemental when they were sure it would pass. Two years ago 89 House Democrats signed a statement committing to voting against any war funding except for a withdrawal. This year 85 have signed onto a bill requiring an exit strategy for Afghanistan. And 73 belong to something called the Out of Iraq Caucus. And yet we are being told that the way to "clear the decks" and "move on" to healthcare and energy is to further fund the wars that elected Democrats claim to oppose and that we all claim to oppose.

What are our chances of success? They are much better in the long term if we push hard in the short term. If we can strip unrelated measures out of war bills, if we can force war bills to be passed primarily by Republicans, if we can create an anti-war caucus with negotiating power, if we can change the discourse to include the peace movement we will be closer to achieving peace. Every day that we delay the current bill is a victory. Will you help us? Will you send an Email to your list and post a blog on your site asking your members to phone Congress and ask for No votes on the war supplemental? Will you be part of a growing peace movement now, when we might succeed, just as you were when we had no chance?

We need you.

In Solidarity,
David Swanson

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What happens when the official truth is false?

By the way, everything I'm sharing with you tonight is in the public record.

What is the official truth, other than your own belief, and what do you feed that belief on a daily basis?

Now ask why?

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errare humanum est, sed perseverare diabolicum

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Goal:
Explain, by discussion, the true divide between good and bad politicians.

Method:
One person offers a viewpoint to be read by other people with the goal in mind and then other people intend to rephrase the initial viewpoint so as to improve upon it in the effort to reach the goal i.e. discussion.

Pre-judgment effort:
In order to understand the true difference between a good and a bad politician the viewer may need a few background checks so as to ensure a more accurate foundation from which to launch the effort to arrive at the goal.

Does the viewer view politicians as people or does the viewer view politicians as beings that are not exactly people?

Are politicians held as, or even more, accountable for crimes (such as torture, mass murder, and actions that threaten the survivability of the species), as accountable, as any other person including people who are not politicians?

If the viewer intending to aid in arriving at the desired goal is operating under the impression that politicians are not people, then the viewer may have a hard time helping anyone arrive at the goal of this discussion.

If the viewer views politicians as exceptional beings that are not to be held accountable for things like torture, mass murder, and actions that threaten the survivability of the species (such as provoking nuclear war), then the viewer may be working from a foundation that is similar to quick sand; where the house being built will sink quickly.

Is it good or bad to be controlled by people who have no moral conscience?

If the answer is yes, yes it is good to be controlled by people who have no moral conscience, today, then is it possible that tomorrow may not be so good?

Historical context:
Once upon a time a group of people managed to avoid being controlled by people who have no moral conscience and that group of people prospered because less time and energy was spent on conflict and more time was spent on other things, fun things, happy things, interesting things, productive things, and prosperous things.

A morally bankrupt person controlling a morally bankrupt group of people then took their process of infighting, back stabbing, killing or being killed to the other group of people for their version of fun, enslavement, rape, robbery, torture, mass murder, and other things.

Careful study of history records these simple and easy to understand conflicts between moral individuals, morally based associations of moral individuals, and the opposition group made up of immoral (not just amoral) individuals associated by their preferred immoral foundations.

Voluntary associations (moral people freely associating with each other in liberty)
Involuntary associations (immoral people enforcing association i.e. master/slave)

Proof of the facts:
Along the way, in human history, where moral people were forced into conflict with immoral people the moral people invented something called “The Scientific Method” as a means by which the foundations of life can be made less shifty, less fluid, less ambiguous, less unknown, less dark, less horrid, less dangerous, less threatening, less mysterious, less torturous, less murderous, and this method aided the moral people in the effort to survive well, to prosper, and to ensure a happy life for posterity.

The simple idea behind “The Scientific Method” is easier to see from a moral perspective as the moral perspective intends to defend against the immoral perspective since immoral people are prone to be violent, to steal, to rape, to torture, and to murder anyone, including moral, amoral, and immoral people; and then they cover their crimes with lies. The easy part to see is the part where moral people intend to accurately discriminate between liars and people who don’t lie on purpose, for any reason. There must be some way, the developing scientific mind asks, to accurately discriminate between fact and fiction, no different than knowing not to stare at the sun is factually known by mankind, with few exceptions. Accurately find the liars and the work load of finding, and avoiding, the immoral people is roughly cut in half.

One scientific mind uses the scientific method to find another scientific mind so as to collaborate and share the work load of finding more proof of more facts, like retina burn is the result of looking into the sun, skin burn is the result of sticking your hand in the fire, and the end of our species is the result of believing in lies being propagated by legal criminals, or immoral politicians who torture, mass murder, and lie to cover their past, present, and future crimes.

Initial viewpoint (to begin the discussion on the topic):
A good politician is someone who has managed to become a leading power, a controlling power, of a voluntary association that has formed as a power to defend against false and violent criminal powers, including false and violent political powers.

A bad politician is someone who has managed to become a leading power, a controlling power, of an involuntary association that has formed as a power to injure innocent victims for fun and profit.

Moral people move away from bad politicians like clean people move away from filth, moral people don’t go toward the filth on purpose – unless the purpose is to clean up the filth and avoid infections caused by filth.

Immoral people move toward bad politicians like babies move towards their mother’s nipples, there they find nourishment.

Amoral people are the wild cards.

Restatement of purpose:
Explain, by discussion, the true divide between good and bad politicians.

Bad politicians, as a rule, lie to cover their true intent which is to injure innocent people for fun and profit.

Good politicians are scarce, hard to find, among all the liars, when lies are commonly believed to be true.

The true divide between good and bad politicians is the same divide as the divide between fact and fiction, prosperity for posterity and a torturous and murderous extinction of the human species, moral and immoral conduct, right and wrong, good and bad.

Any confusion concerning the accurate identification of precise demarcation between good and bad politicians is as beneficial to the bad politicians as confusion is destructive to liberty.

So why would anyone ever start such a discussion anywhere, and why would anyone else ever participate is such a discussion. What would be the point?

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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article6623.htm

http://informationclearinghouse.info/article22892.htm

How can a confession be most accurately revealed?

Torture
Ask the torturer?

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Here is another sound bite of sorts:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/roberts/roberts269.html

I find this:

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Consider the propagandistic term, "gun violence," popularized by gun control advocates. This is a form of reification by which inanimate objects are imbued with the ability to act and to commit violence. Guns, of course, cannot be violent in themselves. Violence comes from people who use guns and a variety of other weapons, including fists, to commit violence.

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How is that any different than blaming this or that on "the government" or "the state"?

I see no difference; the end result is an impetus to kill them all – indiscriminately.

Collective punishment is invented by collectivists?

Is that too ambiguous?

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http://www.911blogger.com/dailynews

Australian "Journalist" claims posting about NYCCAN is peddling an absurd conspiracy theory.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/25/nyregion/25immig.html?_r=1

Why?

Because that is what they do, it is policy.

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A CALL TO ACTION – FORWARD WIDELY

http://www.NYCCAN.org

July 27, 2009

9/11 FAMILIES, FIRST RESPONDERS AND SURVIVORS TO TAKE NEW YORK CITY TO COURT OVER NYC CAN PETITION

SEVENTY THOUSAND New Yorkers signed the NYC CAN petition, raising their voices in support of NYC CAN’s demand for accountability. They have chosen to place the decision to create a new 9/11 investigation – a REAL 9/11 investigation – exactly where it belongs: before the voters of New York City this November. The voices of SEVENTY THOUSAND Americans who believe in democracy and believe that government exists to serve the people – and not the other way around – have been GAGGED by ONE so-called “PUBLIC SERVANT” – The New York City Clerk – who denied the petition and the voice of the people.

Welcome to America. Democracy denied.

Did you REALLY expect those in halls of power to honor the WILL OF THE PEOPLE? Did you expect this demand for accountability to go uncontested by those who have forgotten the very meaning of the word? Perhaps this obstruction of democracy would go unchallenged in THEIR America. Not in OUR America.

9/11 family members, first responders and survivors expected nothing less than business as usual and ARE NOT HAVING IT. They are preparing to take the City of New York to court to challenge the wrongful denial of our right to decide on the creation of a new 9/11 investigation.

Friends, your determination and generosity have brought us to this crucial moment. TRUTH IS AT THE CROSSROADS, DEMOCRACY UNDER FIRE AND THE DEFINING MOMENT IN THE QUEST FOR ACCOUNTABILITY IS UPON US. This is YOUR movement and nothing may bring you closer to attaining truth than NYC CAN. Stand in the light and demand ANSWERS, not in the shadows of those who would deny you such answers.

THE BIG NEWS: the most experienced election lawyer in New York City stands ready to represent the 9/11 families, first responders and survivors in court in an HISTORIC FIGHT FOR DEMOCRACY AND TRUTH. BUT WE DESPERATELY NEED YOUR FINANCIAL SUPPORT TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. This is your chance – your ONE chance – to stand with the 9/11 families, first responders and survivors, and demand accountability. THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE WORKED FOR, AND WHAT WE CAN ACHIEVE IF WE STAND TOGETHER NOW.

Donate over $25 and we’ll mail you a free NYC CAN button. Donate over $50 and you will receive a free NYC CAN button and a well-made NYC CAN t-shirt.

ACT RIGHT NOW. Go to – http://nyccan.org/donate.php – and donate whatever you can to bring the quest for answers to the biggest stage it has ever had: THE NEW YORK CITY BALLOT.

http://www.NYCCAN.org

"The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends towards justice.” Theodore Parker

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http://www.lewrockwell.com/engelhardt/engelhardt388.html

6. As a self-respecting democratic nation, we need to stop being the world's largest exporter of arms and munitions and quit educating Third World militaries in the techniques of torture, military coups, and service as proxies for our imperialism. A prime candidate for immediate closure is the so-called School of the Americas, the U.S. Army's infamous military academy at Fort Benning, Georgia, for Latin American military officers. (See Chalmers Johnson, The Sorrows of Empire [Metropolitan Books, 2004], pp. 136–40.)

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NYC CAN News Bulletin - FORWARD WIDELY
July 31, 2009

9/11 Family Members, and Survivor File for Re-validation of Citizens’ Signatures with New York State Supreme Court, following rejection of NYC CAN petition by the City Clerk and Board of Elections

New York City– On Wednesday, several 9/11 victim family members and a survivor took the first step in challenging the City Clerk’s rejection of the NYC CAN petition for a new investigation in New York City. The group filed a Verified Petition/Order to Show Cause with the Supreme Court of the State of New York requesting a review of Board of Election documentation and a ‘special referee’ appointed to re-validate the over 52,000 signatures filed by NYC CAN on June 24th.

The NYC CAN petition was rejected by the City Clerk on Friday, July 24th, a week ago, certifying less than the minimum of 30,000 qualified signatures of electors. This benchmark, according to the Clerk’s office was not met. A ‘qualified elector’ is a registered New York City voter who was eligible to vote in the last election. According to the letter sent by the Clerk to the City Council, the NY Board of Elections validated 26,003 signatures and invalidated 24,664, leaving 1,333 that were not certified.

At a hearing scheduled for Monday, August 3rd, before a Supreme Court Justice, the plaintiffs, representing tens of thousands of concerned New Yorkers who support a new 9/11 investigation, will formally raise their request for an independent review of the Board of Elections findings. If granted by the presiding Justice, a re-validation of the petition signatures by an independent special referee will follow.

In addition to the requirement to reach the threshold of 30,000 qualified electors, the petition itself must comply with New York Municipal Home Rule Law and relevant Election Laws. The City Clerk maintains the Petition fell short in several areas but it should be emphasized that this is the legal opinion of the Corporation Counsel, the City of New York’s top lawyer, and will be challenged in court by lawyers for the five plaintiffs.

Legal advisors to the plaintiffs believe that the legal objections raised by the Corporation Counsel are specious and should be set aside, however considering the political implications and official opposition to the proposed Commission, obtaining approval for placing the referendum question on the ballet itself will be fraught with difficulty and challenge each step of the way.

The fact is historically in New York City, ballot initiatives have not been successful. The last two were denied by the City Clerk. In both cases the petitioners filed a suit and ultimately lost and thus NYC CAN anticipated the response of the Clerk. And though the odds are stacked against us, we are committed to take the next steps available to us.

Regardless of the outcome, the court case will serve to amplify the demand for a new 9/11 investigation and with lessons learned, should serve to strengthen the ability of the people to petition their government for meaningful referendums in the future.

Please donate to this historic court case now: Go to – http://nyccan.org/donate.php

NYC CAN is non-partisan organization comprised of 9/11 Families, First Responders, Survivors and proud, concerned citizens committed to bringing about an independent, impartial investigation into the events of September 11. For more info: http://www.nyccan.org

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http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/warcriminals

50 Top U.S. War Criminals

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http://pubrecord.org/

News source

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I've been posting comments here:

http://www.campaignforliberty.com/forums/

Here is an example:

Anyone,

What would a "gloves off" libertarian presidential message to the tax paying people while this leader is in office fighting a congress (house and senate) filled with a super majority of legal criminals look like - exactly?

"Hi fellow lovers of liberty, today I have horrible news to pass on to you."

[Cut scene to obscene graphic video of live torture upon a "terrorist" aged 20 paid for by the tax payers - one full minute duration]

"Did you see that?"

[Prime time interruption during a Super Bowl commercial]

"Your elected "representatives" [double peace sign] are spending your hard earned wealth on worse things."

[Cut to scene to gang rape and murder of teenager while mother and father writhe in excruciating mental anguish - forced to watch]

"You are paying to have that done, and it is live. I've managed to infiltrate these "off the books expenditures" expressly designed to clue you in; however I'm holding back, the worst is censored for your protection."

[Cut scene to babies just about to be burned alive and the screen stops abruptly - returning to the president - live]

"My agents are being paid with my own salary and from donations from the following donors. Have a nice day."

[A list of donors in white plain text scrolls quickly on a black background - and the regular broadcast resumes.]

Not real?

http://www.public-action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum/

Who prefers ignorance?

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Accountability for War Crimes is Imperative

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Only the terminally gormless remain true to the Obama brand of “world peace”.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article24286.htm

gormless

chiefly British : lacking intelligence : stupid

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Crimes Against Humanity

Complaint Filed Against Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld et al

International Arrest Warrants Requested

Please accept my personal compliments. I have the honor hereby to file with you and the International Criminal Court this Complaint against U.S. citizens George W. Bush, Richard Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, George Tenet, Condoleezza Rice , and Alberto Gonzales (hereinafter referred to as the “Accused”) for their criminal policy and practice of “extraordinary rendition.” This term is really a euphemism for the enforced disappearances of persons, their torture, severe deprivation of their liberty, their violent sexual abuse, and other inhumane acts perpetrated upon these Victims. The Accused have inflicted this criminal policy and practice of “extraordinary rendition” upon about one hundred (100) human beings, almost all of whom are Muslims/Arabs/Asians and People of Color. I doubt very seriously that the Accused would have inflicted these criminal practices upon 100 White Judeo-Christian men.

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http://www.thedailybell.com/724/Edwin-Vieira-the-Coming-Military-Crackdown.html

Daily Bell: Thanks for sitting down with us. Let's get right to it. In your view, what are the most critical domestic problems facing America?

Edwin Vieira Jr.: Two stand out. The foremost problem-because it is the source of, or contributes significantly to, almost every economic difficulty now plaguing this country-is the inherent and ineradicable instability of the present monetary and banking systems centered around the Federal Reserve System.

The second problem derives from the first. It is the ever-accelerating development of a first-class para-militarized police-state apparatus centered around the United States Department of Homeland Security, with its tentacles reaching down into every police force throughout the States and localities.

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CAFR1 NATIONAL REPLY POST TO ERNEST - 08/23/08: Freddie and Fannie - FNMA and FHLMC

Ernest:

You say: "would it have happened regardless, due to all banks being insolvent due to bad loans over the century?"

That is what they would like you to think and it is part true.

The real question to ask is: "I want to see a detailed list of investors and who defaulted over the last two years on commercial and residential property mortgages?"

Both Freddie and Fannie being federal enterprise authorities, it gave the perfect opportunity for local governments to stash away massive amounts of investment capital where it became "invisible" to the public. Always in the black, always turning out a return (except for the last year). The bubble of spec roll-overs began to burst.

The actions to sure-up Freddie and Fannie are designed to immediately protect the mortgage investors, not the stock-holders or mortgage holders. The theme is to make the environment secure and profitable in the future for the mortgage investors currently backing six-trillion dollars in mortgages with those investors being predominately local and international governments.

The cute part is: These local government entities covertly took the investment capital from the public in the first place to be the primary investors with Freddie and Fannie and now they are using tax-payer funds to bail themselves out and stabilize the government investments that the tax-paying public do not even know exist.

Here is where the crimes come in: Who from the inside players nationally were using Fannie and Freddie in the erroneous roll-over mark-up game that stuck it to the investors / stock-holders? And, also who from the inside players simply walked off with a few million before they had a chance to roll-over when the bubble burst?

If and audit was done specifically on those two points, several thousand politicians, judges, (city, county, and state) attorneys, and other inside players that made a few extra million dollars on the side from the inside would in most probabilities be indicted; prosecuted; and fall.

The problem is, government will not do the audit on those points, or if they did, they would not make it public due to the fact the public is unaware that their own local. Federal, and cooperative International government players are they primary investors (about five-trillion dollars worth). The public would then ask where did all of that government investment capital come from and what else and how much do they have elsewhere? Massive can of worms for them there....

So as far as open investigation, audit, and indictments per the two issues noted above, (or 911) you would have had a much better chance of getting Malcum X ellected as the national spokes-person and Chairman for the KKK in the 60's.

Silence is golden as the theft took place just as much as it is after the fact..

Educate a few local government Law Enforcement Detectives and Police Chiefs on these two points above. Who knows, they may get the ball rolling from the ground floor up, especially if their own pension funds took a hit from the crimes committed by the other government inside players who walked with the cash from Fannie and Freddie and stuck it to them.

Yours truly,

Walter J. Burien, Jr.
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Tel: 928-445-3532

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"Why We Should Get Out Of Afghanistan"

By George Galloway

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http://one-evil.org/glossary_legal_terms/glossary.htm

We depend on words. We place enormous faith in words—that they mean and sound as intended—in order to live in this world. We “trust” words using words like “trust” --from 12th Century Latin trausti = "an approved agreement, deed, oath or alliance as a subject of the church"-- Its claimed origins from Old Norse deliberately misleading.

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SIBEL EDMONDS: THE TRAITORS AMONG US

SIBEL EDMONDS HAS NAMED NAMES. WHY ISN’T THE MEDIA REPORTING THE STORY?

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War Criminals Watch exists for one reason: to ensure that prosecutions of high officials of the Bush administration or any subsequent administration who are guilty of "high crimes and misdemeanors" take place now.]

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Video Interview With Dr. David Ray Griffin

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Historic Bailout Trial 3/11/10 with opening arguments by Bob Schulz of the We the People Foundation will commence tomorrow. All patriots are needed to attend to witness and document this case. The constitutionality of the robbery of the Treasury of the United States by the criminal Wall Street Bankers hangs in the balance. SPREAD THE WORD!

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Illegal War - Please stop

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A Great Global Shift of Power?

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An open letter to President Obama from Jon Voight

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Gee, it’s a good thing the CIA has their own YouTube channel: now there’s a solid investment of the US taxpayers’ money. But Shahram wasn’t done with them quite yet.

On June 29, a third video cropped up, which was played by Iranian television, in which the real Shahram cleared up the mystery:

“I, Shahram Amiri, am a national of the Islamic Republic of Iran and a few minutes ago I succeeded in escaping US security agents in Virginia. Presently, I am producing this video in a safe place. I could be re-arrested at any time.”

After appealing to Western human rights organizations to intervene on his behalf – fat chance! – he continued:

“The second video which was published on YouTube by the US government, where I have said that I am free and want to continue my education here, is not true and is a complete fabrication. If something happens and I do not return home alive, the US government will be responsible.”

All this time Washington had refused to acknowledge Shahram’s presence in the US, but when he showed up at the Pakistani embassy an official who refused to be named told the media: “He came to this country freely, he lived here freely, and he has chosen freely to return to Iran.”

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In a interview with Ralph Nader on C-SPAN's Book TV to promote his book Lies the Government Told You, Judge Andrew Napolitano said that President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney should have been indicted for "torturing, for spying, for arresting without warrant."

Posted July 15, 2010

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"Directing the President, pursuant to section 5(c) of the War Powers Resolution, to remove the United States Armed Forces from Pakistan."

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Over the last two years we spent $1.6 billion on the Merida Project, where we asked the Mexican government to escalate their War on Drugs. The result? Over the last three years, nearly 25,000 Mexicans have been killed in the drug wars. This is madness. The amount of drugs entering our country is not appreciably different. We lost, drugs won.

Please consider thinking in terms that explain the whole truth more accurately.

War FOR drugs.

War FOR terrorism.

Etc.

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In fact, we would still be a large and powerful nation-state with a host of internal and external problems. An immigration and drug crisis on our southern border, soaring health-care costs, a weakening education system, an aging population, an aging infrastructure, an unending recession -- none of these are likely to go away soon, nor are any of them likely to be tackled in a serious or successful way as long as we continue to spend our wealth on armies, weapons, wars, global garrisons, and bribes for petty dictators.

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"This is the remarkable thing: Other countries are reckoning with the legacy of the Bush administration's torture program, and meanwhile the United States is not," said Jameel Jaffer, the director of the American Civil Liberties Union's national security program.

"That's part of why we're so concerned. The Obama administration, rather than investigate the abuses of the last eight years, has increasingly become an obstacle to accountability."

A spokeswoman for the Justice Department, Tracy Schmaler, didn't respond to requests for comment.

Because the legal criminals are still tourturing and mass murdering for profit; investigation = confession.

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Power-hunger tempered by self-deception

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Remember the words "a shortlist of U.S. citizens specifically targeted for killing"?

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Treasury Makes Shocking Admission: Program for Struggling Homeowners Just a Ploy to Enrich Big Banks
The Treasury Dept.'s mortgage relief program isn't just failing, it's actively funneling money from homeowners to bankers, and Treasury likes it that way.

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Are we all doomed?
If there was an observer on Mars, they would probably be amazed that we have survived this long. There are two problems for our species' survival - nuclear war and environmental catastrophe - and we're hurtling towards them. Knowingly. This hypothetical Martian would probably conclude that human beings were an evolutionary error.

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Only a massive propaganda effort and a healthy dose of self-delusion can explain poll numbers that show a split verdict on the subject of torture's legitimacy, when it has been proven to be completely unreliable in true intelligence gathering --

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“What is going on here?” I asked myself at the time. How is it that so many people feel free to talk about empire when they mean a United States empire? The ideological orthodoxy had always been that, unlike other countries, the USA did not indulge in colonization and conquest.

The answer, I realized, is that the word has been divested of its full meaning. “Empire” seems nowadays to mean simply dominion and control. Empire—for most of these late-coming critics— is concerned almost exclusively with power and prestige. What is usually missing from the public discourse is the process of empire and its politico-economic content. In other words, while we hear a lot about empire, we hear very little about imperialism.

But I define imperialism as follows: the process whereby the dominant investor interests in one country bring to bear their economic and military power upon another nation or region in order to expropriate its land, labor, natural resources, capital, and markets—in such a manner as to enrich the investor interests. In a word, empires do not just pursue “power for power’s sake.” There are real and enormous material interests at stake, fortunes to be made many times over.

So for centuries the ruling interests of Western Europe and later on North America and Japan went forth with their financiers—and when necessary their armies—to lay claim to most of planet Earth, including the labor of indigenous peoples (both as workers and slaves), their markets, their incomes (through colonial taxation or debt control or other means), and the abundant treasures of their lands: their gold, silver, diamonds, copper, rum, molasses, hemp, flax, ebony, timber, sugar, tobacco, ivory, iron, tin, nickel, coal, cotton, corn, and more recently: uranium, manganese, titanium, bauxite, oil, and—say it again—oil (hardly a complete listing).

Empires are enormously profitable for the dominant economic interests of the imperial nation but enormously costly to the people of the colonized country. In addition to suffering the pillage of their lands and natural resources, the people of these targeted countries are frequently killed in large numbers by the intruders.

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America's hidden history is ugly and disturbing. No nation ever matched it. To Iraq alone, over the past two decades, it includes ongoing genocide, destruction, terror, occupation, and contamination – a horrendous combination of crimes, unmentioned in Western discourse.

A book for all the "believers" who are in bed with those criminals:

http://www.amazon.com/Voices-Third-Reich-Oral-History/dp/0306805944

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the easiest way to make a buck, is to steal it

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"Our soldiers have pumped salt water into men to 'make them talk,' have taken prisoner people who held up their hands and peacefully surrendered, and an hour later, without an atom of evidence to show they were even insurrectos, stood them on a bridge and shot them down one by one, to drop into the water below and float down as an example to those who found their bullet-riddled corpses."

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The confessed waterboarder is a marked man. If he travels abroad, other countries can—and should—nab him and try him for the crime of torture.

Torture is a bid deal to those who receive it. Pain has that effect, especially when it is willfully committed by a supposed human being.

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http://www.avaaz.org/en/wikileaks_petition/?slideshow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqcizZebcaU

I published my own petition awhile ago:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/160/029/976/

Why?

Read: The Gulag Archipelago by Alexandr I Solzhenitsyn

Read: Voices from the Third Reich by Johannes Steinhoff

Then check this out:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/rep/fema-camps-jesse-ventura.html

On the petition web page at the top of the list there is a blank space where a person can add their phone number. When someone wants to do you harm, you, do you harm, how are you going to stop them?

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Net Nuetered?

This NEWS item involves political power which drives the forces being employed to accomplish specific things.

The bottom line here, it seems to me, is the use of power to accomplish the job of eliminating competition.

That is what criminals do, and this should be knowable by everyone who is a potential victim.

Criminals eliminate competition, that is what they do, they cannot ever allow competition.

One way to eliminate competition is to physically destroy all competitors, another way is to cooperate with potential competitors and form a co-op, or cartel, or cabal, or whatever word accurately identifies two or more criminals dividing their turf into zones - rather than fighting each other for control of the whole enchilada.

Readers may wonder what this idiot is going on about, while the topic is Net Neutrality, and I can respond to such notions with a few facts.

The supposed "law of the land" here in U.S.A. Inc. (LLC) has long since been corrupted into organized crime, and the supposed "law" being enforced is, in fact, an effort by criminals to destroy competition. if you don't know that, then you probably think that I am strange, and you probably think that my words are false - but who, really, is looking through false filters?

Really?

The supposed law makers are specifically, not ambiguously, destroying competition with these things they are doing now. These things they are doing now can be called laws, if you wish to call them laws, or these things they are doing now can be called something more accurate, if that is what you want to do, which do you prefer?

A. Call these things by names that do not describe them accurately.

B. Call these things by names that describe them accurately.

I prefer B.

Group A has the power to capture a large portion of a large market. Group A can produce many things and sell many things to many people.

How does the introduction of a Group B affect the power wielded by Group A over "the market"?

The introduction of a Group B will force both groups to increase the quality of what they produce and the introduction of a Group B will force both groups to lower the price charged to "the market".

Will Group A spend limited resources toward producing higher quality products at lower costs, because Group B will exist if Group B doesn't yet exist, or because Group B already exists and therefore it is necessary, absolutely necessary for Group A to spend limited resource toward producing higher quality products at lower costs, or, on the other hand, will Group A spend limited resources toward eliminating Group B, and/or incorporate Group B into a cartel?

If you don't ask the above question, you can never know the answer.

The answer is answered once Group A accesses LAW, and uses LAW, to do something.

What is meant by the word: Lobby?

LAW is used to eliminate the competition.

Once the competition is eliminated the force that drives quality up and cost (price) down is eliminated.

LAW can be something other than a power used in the job of eliminating competition, and then what is LAW?

What is LAW when LAW is employed in the work of eliminating competition?

How does all that above relate to Net Neutrality?

if "the market" demands unlimited access, then that is a measure of quality, and if the suppliers don't deliver unlimited access there must then be a force preventing competition because, and this is true, because this is true, and not because I see it, and not because you don't see it, yet, BECAUSE "the market" will choose the higher quality product at the lower cost when not forced to choose the lower quality product at a higher cost - it is simply true - actually true - in reality.

The forces behind eliminating Net Neutrality must eliminate or incorporate the competition, if they don't, then "the market" will get what they actually want.

That is the connection.

Do you want to connect to who you want, when you want, or do you want someone forcing you to settle for less?

Who has the power, and what are they doing with it?

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Rumsfeldia

Rumsfeld these days – a man who very likely met the criteria of both criminal and war criminal long before his second stint at the Pentagon – brings to mind nothing more than a brutal and blood-thirsty version of Portlandia.

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The FBI and CIA connection

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Hire liars, what do you expect?

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Anyone,

May I remind you, the reader, even if the reader is literally one person, that Joe's Law is the stepping stone, the foundation, from which my comments are launched, concerning the link above, specifically, and political economy generally.

Power produced into abundance, or produced so as to have more power instead of less power, causes the price of power to go down, as power flows like sunlight on a hot summer day, and as the price of power goes down the political measure of money, increases, or in other words the power to purchase with money increases, or in other words there is, as a result of more power produced, making the price of power lower, deflation of the money unit, as the value of money increases, as power is produced to abundance, as the price of power lowers, and the increase in the power of money is due to the fact that power reduces the cost of production.

The opposite happens when power becomes scarce, as the Legal Criminals willfully make power scarce, on purpose, because they can, because it is in their power to do so, because they have stolen our power, and our power is used against us, as we provide the means by which we suffer.

Here is a quote from the link:

"This is a clear case of socialism for the rich and rugged, you’re-on-your-own individualism for everyone else," U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders, an Independent from Vermont, said in a statement.

Please note how language is a form of political and economic currency, and language can be productive, and language can be very powerfully productive when language conveys accurate meaning, while the opposite can also be true, as language can become destructive as language is willful crafted so as to convey false meaning, targeting specific people who are thereby injured, weakened, and rendered powerless by those forms of currency known as lies.

Why use the word socialism when the actual accurate measure of the events being reported are crimes.

Why call a crime anything but what it is?

Why help the criminals get away with their crimes by helping them cover up their crimes by calling their crimes socialism?

Socialism is exactly what socialism is, according to the proponents of socialism, when the proponents of socialism speak the honest truth. Socialism is not what the people who are against socialism say it is when those who are against socialism lie about socialism so as to discredit socialism through the invention, production, transfer, and maintenance of those lies.

Why side track an investigation that discovers crimes committed by now known criminals? Why call the crimes committed by the criminals by any other name? Why invent, produce, and maintain another white wash - whitey?

I can rewrite the statement reported by one of the Legal Criminals so as to convey accurate meaning, rather than false meaning to whomever gains access to this report.

Here, again, is the quote:

"This is a clear case of socialism for the rich and rugged, you’re-on-your-own individualism for everyone else," U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders, an Independent from Vermont, said in a statement.

Take out the word socialism and place an accurate word in place of socialism.

"This is a clear case of legal crime for the rich."

That is yet, still, not an accurate report, since the use of the word "rich" is another twist, or spin, or cover-up of the facts, which can be fixed by taking out the false word and place an accurate word in place of the false word. Take out the false word rich and put the accurate word criminal in place.

"This is a clear case of legal crime for the legal criminals."

The report is as yet unclear, having no mention of the actual nature of the crime, but that can also be fixed, and that can be fixed in a general as well as a specific manner. A general manner is a manner whereby the communication intends to transfer accurate meaning of the actual crimes to the reader through the use of accurate language.

"This is a clear case of legal criminals abusing the power of law to take more power from their targeted victims as the legal criminals abuse their exclusive legal power over the legal money supply."

or

"Those crooks wrote themselves a checks for trillions of dollars, and the tax payers are given the bill for anything they buy with that money that they stole from the tax payers, and here are there names, and here is where they live, and we can find out exactly what they did buy, so as to inform the sellers who sold them things for stolen money of the fact that they have participated in fraud by receiving stolen property, our money, in exchange for whatever those crooks bought with our money that they stole."

We can give back what the Legal Criminals bought, once their purchases are repossessed, when the guilty are known, beyond a shadow of doubt, and as their crimes are know precisely.

Why do the fellow Legal Criminals invent political spin?

Why does anyone lie?

Ask them, or is there a need to trust in their actions, not their words?

How about taking away their licenses to commit the legal crimes they gave them selves? Who is the boss? Who did you hire to do the things you want done?

If you hired liars, what does that say about what you want done?

If you hired torturers, what does that say about what you want done?

If you hired mass murderers, what does that say about what you want done?

If you supply the means by which you suffer, what does that say about what you want done?

The message continues, and it continues to spread democracy, or fight the war on drugs, or terrorism, or anything but fight the war on falsehood, or fight the war against legal crime.

Here again:

"This is a clear case of socialism for the rich and rugged, you’re-on-your-own individualism for everyone else," U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders, an Independent from Vermont, said in a statement.

What is wrong with you're-on-your-own individualism for everyone?

Isn't that Liberty?

Isn't that merely the naked truth behind all the false fronts?

Isn't that a natural human condition whereby people no longer supply the means by which we suffer, when they have had enough of that suffering stuff, on their own dime?

Why use words that describe the facts of Liberty if the actual target of those words happen to be legal victims, or those who are forced to pay involuntary taxes, by way of deceit, and by way of threats of terrible, and horrible violence, and by way of actual acts of terrible and horrible, aggressive violence upon those who try desperately to avoid paying those taxes to those legal criminals who then use that stolen tax money to commit even more destructive crimes?

Why point to the victims and then make a very misleading claim that the victims are Liberated, or on-their-own, which they most certainly are not, since they are forced, by deceit, and forced by threats of violence, and forced by actual aggressive violence to foot the bills produced by those legal criminals, the same legal criminals who have names, and titles, and addresses, and bank accounts, and cars, and boats, and summer homes, and winter homes, and planes, and gold, and silver, and stocks, and bonds, and treasury bills, and who knows what else they have bought with the money they have stolen?

Barry Sanders is one of them, like Barry Soetoro, they speak with forked tongue, and they do so for good reason; good for legal criminals. When the victims grow wiser it becomes more difficult to victimize them.

The victims, once powerful, no longer wish to provide the means by which we suffer; once we know that we are providing the means by which we suffer, we take steps to stop providing the means by which we suffer, except for the masochists among us who prefer to suffer, and those who will pay whatever price is demanded by those who provide the suffering to those who desperately want to suffer.

Have you become a well trained masochist hiding behind a thin veil of false patriotism? Look in the mirror, the thin veil is thinning.

The torturers don't work for free, unless they are in it for the torture, not the money, which may account for more Legal Criminals than expected, but most are most definitely in it for the money, which is the power to purchase, or it isn't money, just look at the numbers.

How many Legal Criminals are on the list?

How much money was stolen this time?

Suppose that there are 12 people on this current list, such as the 12 people on the Federal Reserve System of Legal Extortion Federal Open Market Committee.

There you have 12 legal criminals.

How much did those people steal?

Go back to the title of the link at the top of this page. What is the amount that was stolen, this time, by those 12 Legal Criminals?

First Federal Reserve Audit Reveals Trillions in Secret Bailouts

Two Trillion? Three Trillion?

Listen folks: Please

I'm going to offer you a scale by which the measure of the crimes in question can be understood. If the Legal Criminals have been and are stealing one cent more than 1 Trillion, knowing exactly how much they steal, can represent the latest record breaking example of Grand Theft, so as to get the actual highest ever stolen number written accurately down into the Guinness Book of World Records, then we can begin to build the scale that shows the worst crime ever committed, as yet, in human history on one end of the scale, and the least is on the other end of the same scale.

What is on the other end of the scale? Where is an example of the least crime so far known to mankind?

I can offer a current measure of what is on the other end of the scale so as to get a better idea, a clearer understanding, of the full measure of the worst crime, as the worst crime is compared to the least crime.

OK?

Here:
http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/08/syracuse_15-year-old_gets_two.html

Syracuse 15-year-old gets two to six years for 7-cent robbery

Low end:
15 year old boy steals 7 cents, not 6 cents, and not 8 cents, 7 cents stolen.

1 boy
7 cents
6 years of what; gang rape, and other tortures raining down upon the criminal who is found guilty of stealing 7 cents, beyond any reasonable doubt according to 12 randomly selected peers who are each, individually gaining command of the license, the ultimate power, of veto on any crimes claimed to be crimes by anyone else in the current regime?

High end:
12 members of the FOMC steals Trillions, give or take a few Trillions, more or less, which could mean 12 Trillion, one Trillion each.

1 cent is roughly worth 1 year of punishment; a specific kind of punishment, some kind of injury forced upon the boy who stole 7 cents, according to the unanimous agreement of all 12 jurors.

1 Trillion is how many cents?

1,000,000,000,000

That is one Trillion. 100 pennies in each dollar, so add 2 zeros, if you can, math can be such a bore.

15 zeros.

1,000,000,000,000,000

1 cent = 1 year of punishment, on the low end of the Just US scale.

Do you get this, at all, or are you too stupefied to get it?

Who is injured by the boy who stole 7 cents, and rather than pay back the 7 cents, where the boy is told to pay back the 7 cents, and the boy is asked to apologize when paying back the 7 cents, the tax payers are made to pay for the training of the boy to become a better criminal, the tax payers hire gangs to rape the boy, and other punishments - perhaps. Professional gang rapers charge a lot too, they don't work for free.

Who is injured by all the cents stolen by those 12 criminals at the FOMC? How many cents is 15 zeros worth? How many years worth of punishment are the taxpayers told to pay for as just punishment is rendered upon those Federal Reserve criminals, where just us tax payers pay for that punishment, and as our power is used to accomplish these things on the same scale used for the criminals who stole Trillions, and as the same scale is used for the criminal who stole 7 cents? We pay in each case as we provide the means to punish the 12 criminals at the Federal Reserve who stole Trillions, and as we provide the means to punish the boy who stole 7 cents.

A.
Punish the boy at roughly year of punishment for each penny stolen

B.
Give even more power to the 12 who stole Trillions, so they have more power to use in the work that is necessary to steal more, and cover up those crimes, paying gangs who rape as a profession, and paying congressmen who white wash the false trials that are supposedly discovering the crimes committed by the people who have given themselves the license to write trillions of dollars worth of checks, whenever they want, and get away with it.

Do you get it, yet?

Are you still stupefied by their brilliance?

What else is written in that news item?

"No agency of the United States government should be allowed to bailout a foreign bank or corporation without the direct approval of Congress and the President," Sanders wrote.

Suppose that the boy who stole 7 cents was beaten senseless along that road he went on after being caught for that crime of stealing 7 cents from that victim who had 7 cents before the boy stole that 7 cents.

Now the boy may be dumbfounded, shaken, beaten, and in a stake of shock and awe, unable to make the right decisions, at the time of the beating, and afterwards. Suppose the boy recovers and realizes the truth, that it was wrong to steal the 7 cents, and even more wrong to get caught, obviously. Now suppose that the boy manages to get through all 6 years of training, paying his debt to "society", and what will you call a condition by which the boy, now a man, is trained to be a better criminal, that stealing can be profitable, so long as you don't get caught?

Will you call that stultification?

I will, because thieves, even if they are successful, getting away with stealing, so as to repeat their crimes indefinitely, are stupid people, they are stupefied, because they, by their crimes, provide the means by which they suffer, since they injure the people who produce the things worth stealing, and that road leads to scarcity, and that road leads to misery, and that road is the race to the bottom, and that road kills the goose that lays the golden eggs. Stupid people travel down that road willingly. Stupefied people travel down that road as a consequence of being rendered stupid somewhere along the natural way that people live in a condition known as liberty, which can be defined as a condition of life that avoids being stupefied by criminals with badges.

Suppose, by chance, the boy is taught to only steal from the legal criminals, or whitey, or the rich, or some other group, suppose the boy is taught to attack a group, not the individuals who make up the group, until there is one from the group in sight, and only then is there one from the group singled out, and targeted for injury, whereby the idea, projected into the boys mind, is to attack the whole group by attacking one person at a time who is said to belong to the targeted group, and who cares which members of the group actually pay the price?

Who cares?

Who cares if the boy stole 7 cents?

Someone does, or the boy wouldn't be facing 6 years of punishment, or training, or whatever word covers up the facts best for your feeble conscience, if you are a reader with a feeble conscience. If not, what are you?

If someone does care enough about the boy who stole 7 cents, cares enough to help finance the 6 years of punishment, or training, or debt to society, or whatever word works best for those who care enough to finance that process, if someone cares enough for that: what explains the lack of care for those 12 criminals who stole trillions, more or less?

Someone cares enough to give them Trillions more, for having stolen Trillions already.

Someone cares enough to ruin the boys life for a 7 cent crime.

Someone cares enough to reward the same Legal Criminals confessing to writing Trillions of dollars worth of checks by giving them even more power than the power they have already stolen.

Why do people use language that covers up the facts?

"No agency of the United States government should be allowed to bailout a foreign bank or corporation without the direct approval of Congress and the President," Sanders wrote.

That is a cover-up. The United States government is run by criminals, and they have given themselves the license to torture, to kill, and even to mass murder, because they can, because they have stolen the power to do so, and because on one, as yet, has the power to stop them, and they are qualified to use the license they gave themselves, and they have passed all the test required to get that much power from you, the tax payers.

If the facts are covered up, and the tax payers remain stupefied, legal crime perpetuates. The result of that process of stupification is the process by which the tax payers provide the means by which they suffer, and this is not news, this is old information; information that was once known by the average Joe tax payers, and the average Jane tax payers, before the process of stupification worked as well as it does now, so well as to leave only one survivor.

Me. Are you jealous or envious? What explains the silence?

Perhaps another survivor exists, but how would I know?

"If such lending is not illegal, it should be. Our nation really did go through a liquidity crisis - a run on the short-term liabilities of financial institutions. There is only one way to stop a run: lend reserves without limit to all qualifying institutions. The Fed bumbled around before it finally sort of did that," Wray said.

Wray doesn't get it, or he is paid to lie.

They give themselves license. How do I know?

How can you not know? I cannot write myself a check for Trillions of dollars, more or less, and so long as no one is counting, I might as well write a 12 Trillion dollar check, on the check, the check will have numbers, not "more or less", and not "trillions", where the person writing the check writes an open ended, blank, space, or the word "trillions" on the line where the amount of the check is recorded, no, the check will have an exact number, and the check will be exchanged for something, something known.

Who can, if you and I can't, write Trillions of dollars worth of checks, and get away with it?

No one, no one without the legal license to do so, can write Trillions of dollars worth of checks, buy Trillions of dollars worth of purchases, no one, not without which the check writer is punished for those crimes, not without the legal license to do so, and it is an exclusive license on purpose. In whose interest is it to support that exclusive license?

The report let's the reader know that someone has given themselves the license to write Trillions worth of checks and get away with it. The other report about the boy criminal who stole 7 cents is offered so as to build a scale of value, so as to contrast one report with another report, seeking a more exact, less ambiguous, measure of the crimes, as the boy gave himself license to take 7 cents from someone else, but that license was then revoked, and more was done in the way of "Just US" in that event with that boy, according to that report, where that boy gave himself license to write a check for 7 cents; not an actual check, and not an actual license, the boy simply stole 7 cents, compared to the National Banking fraud in progress, where Trillions are stolen, and the rate of theft can't be measured in pennies, because the number of pennies being stolen each second is too big of a number for a person to understand exactly how big that number is, as each second goes by, as the incomprehensibly large number of pennies are stolen each second.

"If such lending is not illegal, it should be. Our nation really did go through a liquidity crisis - a run on the short-term liabilities of financial institutions. There is only one way to stop a run: lend reserves without limit to all qualifying institutions. The Fed bumbled around before it finally sort of did that," Wray said.

Wray is one of those people who are stupefied, or he knows better and his words are willfully designed to deceive intended victims.

Here is this guy Wray, and he claims that these other guys "bumbled around". Does Wray give himself license to write Trillions worth of checks, and get away with it? Who is bumbling around?

Are you as stupefied as Wray?

"But then it turned to phase two, which was to try to resolve problems of insolvency by increasing Uncle Sam’s stake in the banksters’ fiasco. That never should have been done. You close down fraudsters, period. The Fed and FDIC (Federal Deposit Insurance Commission) should have gone into the biggest banks immediately, replaced all top management, and should have started to resolve them," Wray said.

Now Wray targets another group of people. The new targeted group of people are no longer the Bumbling Fed group of people, now the group of people targeted are the banksters who have done something along the lines of creating a "bankster's fiasco".

More bumbles bumbling around?

1. The Fed bumbles around
2. Banksters create fiascoes

Wray has yet to report the facts, but perhaps Wray is getting paid by those same people who are the actual people who are bumbling around creating fiascoes, someone has to hire someone to spread the lies, and who lies for fun and profit?

Who lies for pay?

Who pays?

What can you buy for 7 cents?

What can you buy for 12 Trillion, more or less?

Could you buy World War III, and regime change, out with The Dollar Hegemony and in with a New World Reserve Currency, perhaps one that is based in Asia? What is the real news here, in this twisted make believe world where the most powerful people continue to make mistakes while the least powerful continue to pay for those mistakes?

"I think this (the first ever GAO audit) was a good start to uncovering what the Fed did so that we can begin to determine whether similar actions should ever be permitted again," Wray wrote, adding, "my preliminary answer is a resounding no."

A resounding maybe?

How about the boy who stole 7 cents? Did someone claim that the boy was just another socialist for the rich, taking 7 cents from Peter, to pay Paul, and he is Paul, the socialist, and Peter is the individual left alone, except in this case where Peter is the individual left alone without his 7 cents, and Peter is the individual left alone with the bill to teach Paul how to be a better socialist? Is the boy bailed out with a free 6 year ticket to falsehood university?

FU

Where is that blindfolded lady holding the scale, did some lone gunman commit her suicide too?

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The largest banks are bigger than they were when he took office and earned more in the first two-and-a-half years of his term than they did during the entire eight years of the Bush administration. That’s confirmed by industry data.
What else:
“The bankers then returned to Switzerland and treated their conduct as blameless since Swiss law says tax evasion is no crime. The Swiss bank before us deliberately entered United States, actively sought U.S. clients and secretly helped those U.S. clients defraud the United States of America.”
Swiss law says tax evasion is no crime?

Tax evasion is no crime?

Voluntary taxation?

Does someone, somewhere, actually think that voluntary taxation is wrong?

Can someone explain why voluntary taxation is wrong, without saying the same things said by every other criminal that ever walked and talked?