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| Posted: Tue Jun 5th, 2007 01:34 pm |
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http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&pwst=1&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=independent+online+presidential+poll&spell=1
First on the list at this time: Independent Online Presidential Poll - Expanding Connectivity ... dir=ltr- 2 visits dir=ltr- Jun 4 Independent Online Presidential Poll Results 1 - 10 of about 1220000 for ... Independent Online Presidential Poll Does anyone really want to know the true ... http://www.power-independence.com/view_topic.php?id=341&forum_id=2&jump_to=733 - 40k - [url=http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:6ThggKu34VMJ:http://www.power-independence.com/view_topic.php%3Fid%3D341%26forum_id%3D2%26jump_to%3D733+independent+online+presidential+poll&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us]Cached[/url] - [url=http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&pwst=1&q=related:http://www.power-independence.com/view_topic.php%3Fid%3D341%26forum_id%3D2%26jump_to%3D733]Similar pages[/url] - Note this Last edited on Tue Jun 5th, 2007 01:35 pm by Joe Kelley |
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| Posted: Thu Jun 7th, 2007 01:19 pm |
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I added Mike Gravel just now: 10:13 AM Thursday, June 7, 2007 He is not one of the others. He is not parroting the legal criminal propaganda. He deserves to be recognized as a person capable of standing on a principle that does not bend with the slightest breeze. Don't waste your vote. Don't waste one second. Last edited on Thu Jun 7th, 2007 01:20 pm by Joe Kelley |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 8th, 2007 11:18 am |
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http://www.lewrockwell.com/north/north536.html I am not the lesser of two evils. I don't want you to vote for me. This poll exists (and it is the top, best, most popular, and first on Google) to offer a choice to anyone seeking something other than a choice between the greatest evil and the lesser evil. My suggestion, by example, is to vote for your self. Write in your self as president; the better of the best possible choices. Ron Paul is winning. He is not one of the evil choices. I have met the man; at least - I have had the pleasure of hearing him speak – in person. We did not shake hands or exchange pleasantries. It is well past time for people to be accountable for our own responsibilities. Elect yourself and if you have not the time, yourself, nor the energy, on your own, to rid our country of the human waste, the sociopathic criminals, in Washington, if you cannot do this on your own, then, Ron Paul can, or Dennis Kucinich, or Mike Gravel, or me. Look; there is no need to trust these people to do the right thing. They will do the right thing or they will die trying to do the right thing. That is not evil. Evil is the other choices. You can trust that they will do the wrong thing. You can trust your own judgment on that fact. They WILL do the most evil that they can muster. They lie, cheat, and steal with apparent impunity. That is the big lie. They have to spend more time watching their own backs as they stab other’s in the back; more time and energy than you will ever waste in the entirely of your whole life. I trust that I am writing to human beings. What can anyone call the other’s - accurately? EVIL
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| Posted: Fri Jun 8th, 2007 11:24 am |
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Joe Kelley Administrator
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Edit: During my effort to add Mike Gavel to the poll (remove him from the "other's") I didn't remove a zero from the poll time limit. I fixed that error. The Poll was closed in error. The poll is open now. Anyone can start an independent online presidential poll if this one isn't good enough. Google check: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Independent+Online+Presidential+Poll Personalized Results 1 - 10 of about 1,200,000 for Independent Online Presidential Poll. On this day the top spot is held by this web page (I dug it): http://www.infowars.com/articles/us/ron_paul_gets_91_percent_straw_poll_not_work_of_spammers.htm
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| Posted: Fri Jun 8th, 2007 11:26 am |
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Joe Kelley Administrator
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Question: What can be done to make sure that this poll is not a victim of fraud whereby one person adds more than one vote?
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| Posted: Fri Jun 8th, 2007 12:07 pm |
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Joe Kelley Administrator
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http://www.pollingreport.com/2008.htm That is another poll. This poll is independent. That poll, linked, depends upon mass murder. Anyone supporting candidates who support mass murder are people supporting mass murder - and torture - it may be easy to ignore the torture when the torture isn't a clear and present danger - at this time. Time will tell. Torture, by definition, isn't something good. Why support it?
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| Posted: Fri Jun 8th, 2007 05:26 pm |
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17848.htmThen there are those that believe that a great Democrat or Republican will be found among the reeds in a tiny cradle and deliver us from the satanic neo-cons and bring forth another era of good government from the people, by the people, and for the people. These people unfortunately make up today’s majority. The trouble with this view is, that unless we change the way our nation elects its leaders, it will never happen. It will never happen because every politician that wages a successful political campaign must, by the very nature of the system, have millions and millions of dollars. In order to get those millions upon millions of dollars, they need to get corporate donations. The only way to get the corporate world to fund your campaign is to support the corporations that support you. In other words, our leaders are bought and paid for before they even get to the point where they are well known enough to get donations from the common people. Dennis Kucinich, Ron Paul and Mike Gravel fall into this category. Unless something extraordinary happens, they will remain tier 3 candidates because corporate donations will not come their way, and private donations will never give them the “face” time to compete with the Hillary Clintons and the Mitt Romney’s and the John Edwards and Barak Obama’s. The very best we can hope for is a “moderate corporatist” which according to Benito Mussolini’s definition of a fascist, will indeed be something of a fascist. Don’t blame me, I’m just the messenger. Does anyone remember the 1996 election between Ross Perot, Bill Clinton (of Waco infamy), and Bush I (Iran Contra)? It ain't over until the fat lady sings (or is screaming from water boarding). Ross Perot, if you remember, was threatened with the death (or torture) of his daughter during the time when his poll numbers were increasing to critical mass. That was telling. You may not know this fact. I don't know it as fact. I know what happened while it happened. I know what I saw and heard. This round of the grand chess game (power politics) is not over. Stay tuned. This one may require your attention. You may not be able to afford missing this one.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 11th, 2007 11:47 am |
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17860.htmBetween January 2004 and January 2005, first at Abu Ghraib prison and then in Mosul, in northern Babil province, he tortured suspects, most of whom he said were innocent. He realised he had entered a moral dungeon when he found himself reading a Holocaust memoir, hoping to pick up torture tips from the Nazis.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 13th, 2007 11:11 am |
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http://survey10i.pollingpoint.com/vmm5MLRMm5vSFs I found the above from here: http://www.lewrockwell.com/ Recently a number of candidates have announced their intention to run for President of the United States in 2008. Would you vote for any of these presidential hopefuls? Let your voice be heard in this short PollingPoint survey about the race shaping up for the 2008 presidential election! I took the survey and my suggestion is to avoid it. You can do as you please.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 22nd, 2007 10:42 am |
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http://kucinich.us/node/966#comment-9862 I sent two comments over to the Kucinich camp. The first one detailed a brief economic plan involving low interest loans used for paying off morgages and generating free electric power independently. I can cut and paste that note from their site if it is published on their site. For those of you who do not understand how power words, well, I can explain but there does seem to be a general lack of power here (blame me). I have a button I press here on this forum and that button gives me something called "Page Views" and that is a number. This month the number is 19289 (cut and pasted) so far. When I say 'free' electricity I mean it literally. Imagine 'our' government issuing 'our' currency in direct competition with 'their' currency (dollar hegemony) and 'our' currency can be borrowed one time only at no interest to pay off your home mortgage - only. Think about that some. I will too.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 22nd, 2007 03:54 pm |
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Joe Kelley Administrator
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http://kucinich.us/node/966#comment-9864 My second post was posted on that site. My first post was not posted on that site. I've run into this before with the Jews for the Preservation of Firearms ownership. I sent two submissions and they rejected the better one (as far as my opinion is concerned). http://www.jpfo.org/bsbhm2.html What did pass the moderators at the Kucinich site was not meant to be published if that effort is compared to the first post I sent. In the first post I sent something that I didn't save. That is fine. There is a whole lot more at stake than my own learning. Here is something relevant to my post to Kucinich that may or may not show up on his site: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17912.htm Note these words: Putin’s challenge to the US dollar is particularly worrisome. He emphasizes the inherent unfairness of the current system, which relies almost entirely on the dollar and which has an extremely negative effect on many smaller countries’ economies and financial reserves. The facts concerning how a monopoly control of a vital economic resource such as currency or the flow of oil (both are currencies) is currency. Is that confusing? The facts are like bundles of dollars. The facts are like barrels of oil. If the facts are false or 'half true', then, people may end up transferring their hard earn prosperity right out of their children's mouths and right into the hands of the people who happen to be manipulating the flow of the facts. The flow of the facts, like my post, is being controlled. Get it? Enter stage left - competition. Ron Paul will abolish the IRS and The Federal Reserve System. That is a true 'Free Market" competitive move that will open up the people of the world into a state of liberty. That is a big chuck of ideas all contained within a few words. How about some reinforcing data? Go back to the link on Putin: Putin’s remarks are a direct attack on the dollar and its position as the de facto international currency. He imagines a world where goods and resources are traded in rubles or “baskets of currencies”--not just greenbacks. This would create greater parity between the countries and, hence, a more even distribution of power. What is the worry? Who is worried? Take any person currently being subjected to torture and ask that person if he is worried about Putin offering the world a currency that will compete against the dollar? Here is an angle of view that you may have sympathy for: When I look, because I do look, at toddlers with limbs shot off because the dollars that I use are used to finance the people responsible for toddlers limbs being shot off, then, I am tortured. My soul is tortured. You may not be sympathetic to either me or the toddlers with their limbs shot off. I am inclined to agree (be sympathetic) to anyone who cannot stand to look (it is too painful, it is torturous, it is terrible). That being noted, and said, there are those who do look, who are seeing the need to do something, anything, some little thing to help reduce the flow of lies, the flow of bombs, and the current flow of misery that is currently happening now. When you have a choice to use a currency (Ron Paul's, Dennis Kucinch's, Putin's, Chavez's, or any 'basket of currencies', other than the dollar) think. Think about the flow of current. Like this: You work. Your wealth goes to George Bush. George Bush gives your money to Dick Cheney. Dick Cheney pays off his employees who are making bombs and rebuilding the damage caused by those bombs. Everything is flowing according to plan. Coffins are flowing from Iraq to America. Limbs are flowing from toddlers bodies; making piles. More reinforcement needed? http://www.power-independence.com/view_topic.php?id=264&forum_id=4 GIANT pallets loaded with cash amounting to more than $4 billion (£2 billion) and weighing a total of 363 tons were sent to Baghdad aboard military planes shortly before the United States gave control back to Iraqis, it has been revealed to Congress. Think in terms of current flow. You work. You create the stuff that flows. False currency steals your wealth. Some people should be worried about the competition. Are you worried?
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| Posted: Fri Jun 22nd, 2007 04:24 pm |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 22nd, 2007 04:34 pm |
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A few words on the current flow of this topic: Trading with the enemy? I am running an on-line presidential campaign. I am not 'trying' to run for president. I am running an on-line presidential campaign. Ron Paul is running a presidential campaign. He is the boss of his campaign. How is your campaign going? You don't have one? I do. Mine is going well. I have offered the front runners some competition. They don't need it. Ron Paul is winning. Dennis Kucinich is in second place. I'm winnning too; I really don't need to be president. I am trading with the enemy, so to speak, and my tactics can be used by anyone - at all. The mortgage interest tactic involves a requirment that the U.S. National Government allow the new currency to be utilized as a means of paying taxes. If you do not understand the significance of that last statement, then, consider, for a moment, what value there is in green paper. If you remain confused, then, consider the advice offered by Henry Ford and Albert Einstein (two people who managed to make due with what they had): http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/h/henry_ford.html It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning. http://rescomp.stanford.edu/~cheshire/EinsteinQuotes.html
Edit: Word choice? Ford uses the word "before". That is significant. Last edited on Fri Jun 22nd, 2007 04:36 pm by Joe Kelley |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 29th, 2007 12:36 am |
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http://www.lewrockwell.com/ Check out the poll on the bottom of that page! The leading candidate isn't even mentioned. Is that called a push poll? Ron Paul is still out in front with a commanding lead.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 4th, 2007 10:50 am |
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5 Votes Total already. Ron Paul is stretching his lead. Look out Fed and IRS your reign is coming to an end.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 6th, 2007 01:31 pm |
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http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/
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| Posted: Sun Jul 8th, 2007 02:56 pm |
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http://www.thedailybackground.com/2007/07/06/poll-45-want-impeachment-of-bush-54-want-impeachment-of-cheney/
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| Posted: Sun Jul 8th, 2007 07:28 pm |
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http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/shared-blogs/ajc/politicalinsider/entries/2007/07/05/a_fourth_of_july_straw_poll_fo.html?cxntfid=blogs_political_insider
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| Posted: Tue Jul 10th, 2007 03:22 am |
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http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2007/07/usatgallup-poll.html The poll above may be factual for the people polled. This poll here is independent and open to anyone. Ron Paul is still winning. Ron Paul is the 4 to 1 favorite. The criminal torturing mass murderers for profit aren't even on the table in this independent on-line poll and this one is second on the top of the list when Googling for Independent On-line Presidential Poll Results. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Independent+On-line+Presidential+Poll+Results Last edited on Tue Jul 10th, 2007 03:26 am by Joe Kelley |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 11th, 2007 07:56 pm |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ic0_J55WzVw
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