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| Posted: Sat Jun 16th, 2007 10:49 am |
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http://www.ae911truth.org/joined.php I joined. Truth is good. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6883441047197474365 Last edited on Sat Jun 16th, 2007 10:51 am by Joe Kelley |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18th, 2007 01:35 pm |
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http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/6/17/14638/6423
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18th, 2007 01:57 pm |
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http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/06/17/sy-hersh-on-tagubas-abu-ghraib-investigation/The bare minimum for any concept of right will be to slow down the acceleration of mass torture and mass murder.It doesn’t pay to do a thorough investigation for this White House as Major Gen. Taguba found out, but what about Bush’s role in all of this? Do you understand this? At least, at the very least, the cause of good must impede the growing progression toward increased human misery – at the very least – a slight impediment is in order – even if that momentary slow down toward human destruction is miniscule. Just how close to hell on earth can we get? How fast can we get there?
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18th, 2007 02:29 pm |
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17893.htm
The US Embassy in Beirut and the CIA will neither confirm nor deny involvement in the plan to use Al Qeada How about a Google Search for "The enemy of my enemey" http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=the+enemy+of+my+enemy&btnG=Search Take your pick. I pick this: http://www.disinfo.com/site/displayarticle19740.html http://www.cbc.ca/thehour/disinformation.php Watch out - you can get lost. I have a way of looking at life and you may consider it: At any given moment a person has many choices that must be eventually narrowed down to one. Before arriving at one there will be four choices. Best Next best bad Worst If you, or anyone, is being told that only the last two choices exist, then, you may want to get a second opinion i.e. next best. This is one of many possible methods of finding the best.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 22nd, 2007 07:23 am |
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article15320.htm
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| Posted: Fri Jun 22nd, 2007 09:49 am |
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article15264.htm Peak Oil? http://hytechapps.com/
http://www.savefuel.ca/index.php
http://blogs.tampabay.com/energy/2007/02/water_and_gasol.html
http://waterpoweredcar.com/stanmeyer.html Stan Meyer's Dune Buggy that ran on water. Hydrogen/Oxygen fuel in an ICE motor. On board electrolysis, no hydrogen tanks, no bombs on-board, just water. (1998) It ran 100 miles per gallon! The 2nd best inventor of the Century, besides Tesla, who was and will always be #1. Stan is the mustard seed of Water Powered Cars! The video left above is a one timed aired news cast, from his home town of Grove City , Ohio that you are not to view. The video screen to the right is a segment of the Equinox program about Stanley aired back in Dec. 1995 (approx.) See the entire program entitled "It Runs on Water" narrated by Arthur C. Clarke in video clips below. It is in 4 parts, made possible by Andy the WizardKing from Blackpool, England. Part 1 • Part 2 • Part 3 • Part 4 http://kucinich.us/node/1719
If you listen to the "independent" documentary and are apt to feel afraid, then, think with your own brain - instead. You can start investing in methods of producing your own currency. Solar power is just one example. Imagine, for example, leaving your children a home that creates it's own electric energy at a rate that supplies 4 of your neighbors with enough electricity to supply any demand including 5 electric cars. Your independent power creation (once the system pays for itself) supplies free electricity. Your next generation can sell electricity at half the current rate to all four neighbors (north, south, east, and west) and all 5 families have no gasoline cost (electric cars). NO GASOLINE COSTS. That is how Peak Oil becomes nothing more than a BOOGIE MAN. That is happening already and that doesn't even account for the energy supply contained inside water. The power to prosper is firstly a power to defeat falsehood. If you watch the vido titled Oil, Smoke, and Mirrors: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article15264.htm If you watch that, think, do those people know basic logic? Are they really too stupid to see the simple fact that the Sun supplies abundant energy that is now a simple phone call away from having that energy turned into electricity? If you are still confused, then, go back a look at the WATER being used as fuel links. Two very simple future paths: You fill up your car with the garden hose (water). You plug your car into your Solar (and wind power) system. What is the reason for fearing a loss of oil supply? Think man. Think women. The power to make you fear the loss of oil is the power that makes you fail to see any other power - your own power, for example, to defeat falsehood.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 22nd, 2007 05:11 pm |
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http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21948945-1702,00.html
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| Posted: Fri Jun 22nd, 2007 05:22 pm |
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http://www.antiwar.com/paul/index.php?articleid=11171Have We Forgotten 2003 Already? Having already initiated a disastrous war against Iraq citing UN resolutions as justification, this resolution is like déja-vu. Have we forgotten 2003 already? Do we really want to go to war again for UN resolutions? That is where this resolution, and the many others we have passed over the last several years on Iran, is leading us. I hope my colleagues understand that a vote for this bill is a vote to move us closer to war with Iran.
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| Posted: Sat Jun 23rd, 2007 10:51 am |
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No Guns
How about early democracies? http://www.lysanderspooner.org/bib_new.htm “The Saxons, who subdued Britain, as they enjoyed great liberty in their own country, obstinately retains that invaluable possession in their new settlement; and they imported into this island the same principles of independence, which they inherits from their ancestors. The chieftains, (for such they were, more than kings or princes,) who commanded them in those military expeditions, still possessed a very limited authority; and as the Saxons exterminated, rather than subdued the ancient inhabitants, they were, indeed, transplanted into a new territory, but preserved unaltered all their civil and military institutions. The language was pure Saxon; even the names of places, which often remain while the tongue entirely changes, were almost all affixed by the conquerors; the manners and customs were wholly German; and the same picture of a fierce and bold liberty, which is drawn by the masterly pen of Tacitus, will suit those founders of the English government. The king, so far from being invested with arbitrary power, was only considered as the first among the citizens; his authority depended more on his personal qualities than on his station; he was even so far on a level with the people, that a stated price was fixed for his head, and a legal fine was levied upon his murderer, which though proportionate to his station, and superior to that paid for the life of a subject, was a sensible mark of his subordination to the community.” --- 1 Hume, Appendix, 1. The King today can snatch up anyone the King wishes on a whim. There is a cause and effect going on. I am non-violent. I do not solve problems with offensive violence. No one does. Violence is a problem. Look at this insurance scam idea which caused the author much trouble: http://www.outpost-of-freedom.com/jimbellap.htm
If the reader reads all the links above and the reader isn't connecting the dots, then, I can elaborate. During the early democracy in England the King was forced to allow Trial by Jury where any one 'legal' person could veto any prosecution and therefore any law. Then, during that time, a 'legal' person was someone who could pay the tax of Jury Duty and military duty if called upon (someone who also produced enough wealth to own land) and such a person was called a Freeholder. The principle being that anyone protected by these laws must prove his ability to protect these laws. Not her. The battle for recognizing free women as free came later - and it is still going on. One of the laws of the land (not the Kings laws certainly) put a bounty upon the Kings killer. Think about that a moment while I elaborate on Jim Bell's revolution. Jim Bell's revolution is merely a written observation of what already exists in modern finance. An example is the case of "Put Options" placed upon the Airline companies involved in 911 BEFORE 911 happened. Think of the term "Selling Short" and your brain may begin recognizing the principles invovled. Jim Bell's revolution is here already in the form of encrypted (and therefore secure) information. An example is a program that you may buy and that program must be unlocked with a key. Many more examples exist in the revolution of communication. Think in terms of who controls the barriers. Who has the power to stop and start the flow of commerce? Does the King have that power exclusively? I can elaborate more; however - the reader should read the links first. And what would the world be without humor? Moving right along, how about the technologically-challenged? "Can you set the clock on a VCR?" Hah! Gotcha! Trick question. Nobody uses a VCR anymore. We all have DVD players. So, if you answered either "no" or "yes" to the question, clearly that means you are non compos mentis. No brainee, no votee. From: http://www.lewrockwell.com/chartier/chartier79.html Last edited on Sat Jun 23rd, 2007 12:24 pm by Joe Kelley |
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| Posted: Sat Jun 23rd, 2007 01:29 pm |
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Somewhere recently my efforts were spent communicating the realities of democracy as a principle guiding human interaction. This subject matter is contentious only due to falsehood, which, leads me to divert away for a moment before returning to principled democracy. Perfect information is a concept that, if you think about it, is synonymous with education, science, and religion. In other words a living human being reaches for something. What is that something? The mind does not simply open and wait for anything to fill it. Perfect information is a concept that, if you could get it, allows the person to do anything and everything imaginable to the limits of possibility. The opposite of perfect information, in contrast, is insanity, or, perfect falsehood. What, then, is the perfect information version of democracy? Please note that I cannot provide the answer because I am not perfect. I need help. I need to propose a version of democracy for you to reject or confirm as being false or true, less false, or more true. You may simply ignore my version too. Democracy is a concept that places every single living human being equal according to the concept of law. Above is one try at describing the perfect information example of democracy as a principle. That version is inadequate because that version does not contain a description of the concept called "LAW". Here is where a more recognizable term may help. Try to call into being a term that describes an ability to cause someone to do what you instruct them to do and this ability that you now have does not account for the person you control. In other words you can control the actions of this other person even if the other person does not want to be controlled. What is the term that you dream up for this power to force other people to do things, or not do things, that you decide will be done, or not done, by other people? Along with this concept of how you can over power other people it is important to recognize something inclusive in this power. You do not have to do what you make other people do and you do not have to stop doing what you make other people stop doing. What is the word for this concept of power that you have over other people? If you can come up with a better term, then, let me know. I will use the term crime. Back to my inadequate description of democracy where the sentence used a term called "Law". Democracy is a concept that places every single living human being equal according to the concept of law. I can try again and this time I will use the term: "Crime". Democracy is a concept that places every single living human being equal according to a concept of crime. If the reader has managed to create a term that describes how someone can overpower another person and they, the reader, finds the term "Force" to work for them, then, I must object strongly. Force and Power are physics terms. Example: The power of the sun forces molecules to accelerate. The power of the sun forced the human being to succumb from exposure. The power of the sun forced the water to evaporate and begin the cycle of life on earth. Can you see the validity of my objection for using the terms Power and Force? Power and Force are essential parts of physical life without which there can be no life - at all. That is not an example of perfect information; however - we can test that last sentence for validity. Stop breathing and see how long you can last without forcing the air in and out of your lungs. Democracy is, and only is, a concept that intends to make no man or woman, no human being, a legal criminal. No one, according to democracy, is above the law. Each person, in democracy, is above the law. That last sentence may cause someone to raise their hand. Law is a creation of mankind. I can reword that last paragraph to help make my statement obvious. Democracy is, and only is, a concept that intends to make no one a legal criminal. No one is above natural law. Everyone is above man made law. Democracy must account for natural law. Democracy must not, ever, create a legal criminal. Perhaps this angle of attack on the problem of finding perfect information is inadequate. An example may suffice to bring this angle of view into view. Democracy must not, ever, place one person outside any man made law. That, by definition, is placing someone outside the law. That is the creation of an outlaw - on purpose. Everyone is above man made law. Everyone is able to make man made law. Everyone can and does make man made law. No one, according to democracy, is outside their own man made law. A term that describes this angle of view is Universality. That is the 'if it is good for the goose then it is good for the gander' rule. That is the limit of democracy. Any other rule is outside the concept of democracy. An easy way to see, to accurately identify, anyone who volunteers to step outside the one democratic rule is someone, anyone, overpowering an innocent person. That is easy to see. Someone overpowering an innocent person is someone who volunteers to make himself above the one man made law. That person is a democrat in that he votes to make another rule. That person is a democrat in that he decides to exercise his ability to make democratic rules. That person is not a democrat in that his rule takes away another person's rule making power. That person is above man made law, lke every other democrat, that person is not a democrat when his rule removes another democrats rule making power. That is democracy. Everyone is above man made law. Everyone is able to make rules. Everyone can volunteer to be a democrat so long as the rules they make do not interfere with rules made by anyone else. A democrat that makes a rule removing someone else's rule making power removes himself from the democratic rule of universality. The democratic ideal, then, is when everyone is the King. No one is a subject of the King. In practice there are problems with the ideal of democracy because people do, in fact, commit crimes against the innocent. If perfect information were possible, then, everyone would know how to avoid being a victim of a crime. Therefore; ideal democracy must identify all crimes before they happen and avoid them. Here is a very simple method by which that democratic ideal can be accomplished: Do not legalize crime. Do not give people the power to commit crimes. Do not make crimes legal. Do not pay people for commiting crimes. Do no reward people for committing crimes. Before I receive the inevitable criticism for my wild idealism I can easily prove three example of legal criminals. Joseph Stalin Adolph Hitler George Bush Democracy does not reward those people for their crimes. Democracy is not majority rule. Majority rule makes legal criminals out of the majority. That is outside the rule of Universality in a big way. Majority rule is a concept whereby the majority becomes outlaws like a massive concentration of Stalins, Hitlers, and Bushes. Where do YOU think Stalin, Hitler, and Bush get their POWER? I am a write in candidate because I believe in the principle of democracy. I do not believe in majority rule. Make no one below the law of universality. No one
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| Posted: Sat Jun 23rd, 2007 01:57 pm |
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17914.htm
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| Posted: Mon Jun 25th, 2007 10:51 am |
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More trading with the enemy: http://kucinich.us/node/1408#comment-9989
On this forum (Power-Independence) your posts are automatic. If I am going to censure them I will tell you why. I have the time and energy at this time. I may not later.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 25th, 2007 11:00 am |
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http://www.house.gov/pelosi/contact/contact.html Knock knock; Is anyone home?
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| Posted: Mon Jun 25th, 2007 11:09 am |
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http://www.smh.com.au/news/opinion/the-secret-war-on-america/2007/06/22/1182019369217.html?page=fullpage
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| Posted: Mon Jun 25th, 2007 11:18 am |
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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/The_Earth_seen_from_Apollo_17.jpg Look at the top. The Neo-Con Men want to nuke it. They are torturing mass murderers and we are giving them everything they ask for - and more. Why?
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| Posted: Mon Jun 25th, 2007 11:25 am |
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http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/24/weekinreview/24schwartz.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
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| Posted: Mon Jun 25th, 2007 12:03 pm |
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http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/06/24/2063/
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| Posted: Fri Jun 29th, 2007 01:12 pm |
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17933.htm Once in awhile I start babbling to my wife about things that she doesn't often allow. This is the same person, my wife, who teaches by example: If you do not stand for something, then, you will fall for anything. I recounted my initial reaction to the news I heard on the radio of the car I drove on September 11, 2001. My initial reaction was, and remains, that powerful forces are gaining more power through falsehood and violence. Who, one might ask, is the most powerful force gaining power through falsehood and violence? In other words: America's Most Wanted. A clue is: The most powerful person will not be easy to recognize as the most powerful person because that most powerful person gains power through falsehood and violence. What can be done? It may be a very good idea to begin to hold the people accountable for the torture and mass murder of human beings that began on September 11, 2001. Here is a clue: If the people responsible for the torture and mass murder of human beings beginning on September 11, 2001 are not positively identified (without any reasonable doubt), then, accountability is impossible. You can see the above to be true. You can see the above to be false. You can also ignore it in the hopes that it will go away. Innocent human beings are ignorant human beings. If innocent human beings know what is coming next and if innocent human beings know who perpetrates what comes next and if innocent human beings do nothing to stop mass torture and mass murder, then, they are not innocent and they are not ignorant. If people choose to ignore responsibility and accountability, then, people are not innocent and people are not ignorant. If the choice is to ignore reality, then, reality will step in - anyway. Time is precious and the innocent may know this better than those who are no longer innocent. Time will definitely move on at least until it runs out - for everyone; innocent or guilty. Another 911 (a new Pearl Harbor) is being implemented. If we refuse to realize this fact, then, we will suffer from it - every one of us. Don't blame me. Look in the mirror. What can you do? At least this: http://www.usalone.com/cheney_impeachment.php http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/acephalous
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| Posted: Sun Jul 1st, 2007 04:39 pm |
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17941.htm Noam Chomsky is a linguist or scientist dealing in language. He is also a proponent of democracy as defined by Chomsky and not as defined by the often repeated lie: "Rule by the Majority" or 'Might makes right". To borrow from the link; as an offer of explanation:
And no one can accurately claim that Chomsky is humorless: Commentary on what is happening reveals the nature of the fears. London’s Financial Times warned that President Evo Morales of Bolivia is becoming increasingly “authoritarian” and “undemocratic.” This is a serious concern to Western powers, who are dedicated to freedom and democracy everywhere. The proof of his authoritarian stance and departure from democratic principles is that he followed the will of 95 percent of the population and nationalized Bolivia’s gas resources, and is also gaining popularity by cutting public salaries and eliminating corruption. Morales’s policies have come to resemble the frightening leader of Venezuela. As if the popularity of Chávez’s elected government was not proof enough that he is an anti-democratic dictator, he is attempting to extend to Bolivia the same programs he is instituting in Venezuela: helping “Bolivia’s drive to stamp out illiteracy and pay[ing] the wages of hundreds of Cuban doctors who have been sent to work there” among the p! oor, to quote the Financial Times’ lament.10 Last edited on Sun Jul 1st, 2007 04:43 pm by Joe Kelley |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 3rd, 2007 06:45 pm |
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http://www.usalone.com/impeach_both.php Check it out, sign in, if you feel like letting your 'representatives' know how they can 'represent' you, then, send them a note. I did. The following are return e-mails from a few 'representatives':
I cut and pasted right from the e-mail. Here are the significant words: [size=
Those are lies. If the liar is too stupid to know that the lie is a lie, then, that is one thing. Knowing the lie is a lie and spreading the lie on purpose is another thing. Massive numbers of people are being tortured and murdered while their property is being stolen. The paper trail leads right to the two Legal Criminals at the top of the Nation State Pyramid. Of course the minions will line up in a row to propagade the big lie fueling the current torture and mass murder because those 'representatives' represent the torturing murderers and they do not represent honest and productive Americans. Next up:
Simply fill in the fields, type in your message, and click "Submit" at the bottom of the page. Again, thank you for contacting me. I hope you will keep in touch. Sincerely, Barbara Boxer United States Senator How about following that trail? http://boxer.senate.gov/contact/email/policy.cfm I filled in the blanks with all my personal information and in the 'issue' box I selected "Education". In the subject box I wrote: No More Legal Criminals The following is my message:
I submitted my request for representation. Here is the response: http://boxer.senate.gov/contact/email/thankyou.cfm?CFID=5960344&CFTOKEN=20796471
When the 'tax payer' can't pay the tax, then, the people who live off the tax can't live off the tax. When the 'representatives' torture and murder large numbers of innocent people, then, the 'representatives' represent torturing murderers. I'm going to borrow from Dr. Phil: How is that working for you?
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