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| Posted: Wed May 22nd, 2013 10:09 am |
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5/22/13 page 37 If the goal of separation for all those white supremacist, skin head, neo-Nazis is to have nothing to do with the people they prefer not to have anything to do with, then relatively speaking, there would be a loss of at least one thing worth trading between one member of one group and another member of another group. Removed comma before neo-Nazi If the goal of separation for all those white supremacist, skin head neo-Nazis is to have nothing to do with the people they prefer not to have anything to do with, then relatively speaking, there would be a loss of at least one thing worth trading between one member of one group and another member of another group.
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| Posted: Wed May 22nd, 2013 03:45 pm |
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5/22/13 page 35 & 39 The base of the evil is merely evil; it is a desire to destroy. The coverings invented to hide the evil are legion, pick from the hat, any excuse will do, but specific excuses do tend to fit the occasion better than less powerful ones. Redid punctuation...again...I think this is better than my first effort  The base of the evil is merely evil. It is a desire to destroy. The coverings invented to hide the evil are legion. Pick from the hat, any excuse will do, but specific excuses do tend to fit the occasion better than less powerful ones.
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| Posted: Wed May 22nd, 2013 03:47 pm |
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5/22/13 page 39 But when the innocent person targeted is not the same color: the race card lie works perfectly. changed colon to comma: But when the innocent person targeted is not the same color, the race card lie works perfectly.
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| Posted: Wed May 22nd, 2013 03:53 pm |
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5/22/13 page 39 How do I know all this, you may ask, as I ask myself; and what comes to mind is the hatred I feel when thinking about evil people who lie, where they know their lies are invented to cover up their crimes, and where their crimes include the torture and murder of children on a regular basis. Changed punctuation: How do I know all this? You may ask, as I ask myself. And what comes to mind is the hatred I feel when thinking about evil people who lie, where they know their lies are invented to cover up their crimes, and where their crimes include the torture and murder of children on a regular basis.
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| Posted: Wed May 22nd, 2013 04:04 pm |
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Joe, I cannot understand why the word falsify is used in this paragraph. Can you please help me understand. I have to work to diffuse my own hatred, which can run very deep into my soul, as my mind is apt to invent any excuse that will excuse an outbreak of violence on my part, and the excuse intends to accomplish evil, to falsify my true, base, destructive human tendencies. ----------------- Wouldn't an outburst of evil tend to verify, confirm, validate or testify to true, base, destructive human tendencies?
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| Posted: Wed May 22nd, 2013 04:13 pm |
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5/22/13 page 40 Which prejudice do you see when you see prejudice? Do you see the genuine tool, or do you see the lie that covers up "collective punishment?" Moved ? outside of the " Which prejudice do you see when you see prejudice? Do you see the genuine tool, or do you see the lie that covers up "collective punishment"?
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| Posted: Wed May 22nd, 2013 04:21 pm |
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5/22/13 page 40 Beware, in case you come across that teaching it is not Biblical to Hate black people, but there are people who twist the Bible to make it say such things. Do not believe that twist. Beware. I am not being prejudiced by not listening to hateful people. I am not giving lies value or power by not entertaining or hearing them." Divided 1st sentence into 2 sentences. Removed double negative from last sentence. Beware, in case you come across that teaching .It is not Biblical to Hate black people, but there are people who twist the Bible to make it say such things. Do not believe that twist. Beware. I am not being prejudiced by not listening to hateful people. I am not giving lies value or power by entertaining or hearing them."
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| Posted: Wed May 22nd, 2013 04:32 pm |
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5/22/13 page 40 And when they speak, they tell me such things as the Jews have been promised, by God, a section of Real Estate of some notable value; by God those squatters already living in the Promised Land had better start packing or else. Added colon. Also changed semicolon back to a comma and added back the word "and" (like you had originally written it )And when they speak, they tell me such things: As the Jews have been promised, by God, a section of Real Estate of some notable value, and by God those squatters already living in the Promised Land had better start packing or else.
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| Posted: Wed May 22nd, 2013 04:38 pm |
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5/22/13 page 40 I ask “Or else what: torture and murder of the innocent? They say, with a hint of relish, yes, or else, God says so. I say or else they will be tortured and slaughtered for failing to obey the order to vacate the premises without question. They say it is God's will. Added punctuation appropriate for quotes/conversation: I ask, “Or else what: torture and murder of the innocent?” They say, with a hint of relish, “Yes,” or else, “God says so.” I say, “Or else they will be tortured and slaughtered for failing to obey the order to vacate the premises without question.” They say, “It is God's will.”
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| Posted: Wed May 22nd, 2013 04:43 pm |
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5/22/13 page 41 Collective punishment is the employment of a counterfeit form of prejudice whereby criminals (with or without badges) employ prejudice to cover up their crimes as if their crimes where somehow justifiable by this tool called prejudice. Added comma before as and changed "where" to "were" Collective punishment is the employment of a counterfeit form of prejudice whereby criminals (with or without badges) employ prejudice to cover up their crimes, as if their crimes were somehow justifiable by this tool called prejudice.
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| Posted: Wed May 22nd, 2013 05:00 pm |
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Joe, I am seeing some very poor editing done on my part earlier on. I hope I don't continue that trend in this current edit effort. Thank you for your patience. 5/22/13 page 41 The base of crime is for the criminal to target a victim, and by whichever means the act is covered up. The set of things done to cover up those crimes are LEGION, meaning of many forms, a tangled web, and an exponentially expanding universe of greater lies. More and more and more counterfeit prejudice or "collective punishment" is just one of many cover-ups, false fronts, excuses, false justifications, for the actual, willful, targeting, and then injuring of innocent people. changed word: "whichever" to "whatever" and made some punctuation changes: The base of crime is for the criminal to target a victim, and by whatever means the act is covered up. The set of things done to cover up those crimes are LEGION, meaning of many forms: a tangled web and an exponentially expanding universe of greater lies, more and more and more counterfeit prejudice or "collective punishment" is just one of many cover-ups, false fronts, excuses, false justifications for the actual, willful, targeting, and then injuring of innocent people.
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| Posted: Wed May 22nd, 2013 06:35 pm |
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On the use of falsify. "Wouldn't an outburst of evil tend to verify, confirm, validate or testify to true, base, destructive human tendencies?" I am trying to say that the use of the tool "excuse" is used as a tool used to falsify, hide, cover up, the true motive. I have to work to diffuse my own hatred, which can run very deep into my soul, as my mind is apt to invent any excuse that will excuse an outbreak of violence on my part, and the excuse intends to accomplish evil, to falsify my true, base, destructive human tendencies. I can invent "reasons," which can be called rationalizations, or "justifications," or apologies for a per-meditated use of violence, so the excuse is falsehood, evil, and so is the violence, but the invention of the falsehood is meant to falsify the violence. Back to Solzhenitsyn on that relationship between falsehood and violence? When heart, or soul, is employed into work, the product may, or may not, communicate that employment of power in that way, but you know it? I see it.
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| Posted: Wed May 22nd, 2013 08:40 pm |
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OK, I understand now. I just wasn't reading it right. Nevermind that I had been up since 4am and had to navigate multiple times in an unfamiliar town and had been sitting in one of those "Affordable Dentures" places where the video tape of their "offerings" continued to loop over and over and over again and the family next to me was a loud family and the lady was not a happy camper. So, I understand falsify now. I am home and it is quiet. I missed church and everyone else is there and now I cannot understand what you mean by the words: [quote} When heart, or soul, is employed into work, the product may, or may not, communicate that employment of power in that way, but you know it? I see it. I think I am overly tired because they sound like you are irritated at me. as in "you know it, WELL, I SEE it." and I don't even know what I KNOW or what you SEE. I think I have hit my limit for today. ...
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| Posted: Thu May 23rd, 2013 09:30 am |
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bear, I often wonder about how repetition works as we are repeated exposed to things that may or may not adversely affect us, or affect us in a positive way. Constant bombardment of harmful radiation can be placed on a scale where the scale is constructed to begin to measure how constant bombardment, or repetition, of exposure to things may affect people like you, me, and everyone else. Repetitive exposure to whatever makes someone happy, their most happy experiences ever, can be on the other end of the scale built for seeing how repetition works upon people. People go in this direction and they find difficulties. People go in this direction and they find happiness. One of the possible affects of repetitive difficulties is to avoid that direction. One of the possible affects of repetitive happiness is to go in that direction. One of the possible affects of repetition is to see the thing repeating from different angles of view. If you have this affect going on, where you see things from a different view, when things repeat, then, to me, there are competitive examples of how you see things that repeat. You may see something that repeats from a viewpoint that is confusing. Then you see something that repeats from a viewpoint that is less confusing. The affect is less confusing viewpoints of things. I don't know if that can help explain this: When heart, or soul, is employed into work, the product may, or may not, communicate that employment of power in that way, but you know it? I see it. I don't know if writing that sentence again can convey the intended meaning. I can work at it. I can put my heart in it. I can force my will upon my soul, to use my brain, and my power over my living being, and I can write the perspective I have in other words, and my product may, or many not, communicate the employment of my power in that way. If I do not communicate well, it won't be due to a lack of effort, because I can repeat the effort, until I have no more power. If I do not communicate well, it could be because no one wants to know what I perceive, or it could be that someone wanting to know is someone who is currently very tired. The product is what it is, and if someone can see the effort put into the product, then someone can see it, and I do, I see the effort you put into the product of this book, as the sentences are becoming more consistent, and greater consistency, is greater repetition, which has an affect on people, and one probably affect is such that the reader has less work to do, and the intended perspective is easier to communicate effectively.
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| Posted: Thu May 23rd, 2013 10:05 am |
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5/23/13 page 42 We can share and compare notes as we suffer, as we say to each other, oh yea, that is where the IRS is getting away with that much crime; by IRS I don't mean a building, and by IRS I don't mean a title. Changed punctuation by adding quotes and making 2 sentences We can share and compare notes as we suffer, as we say to each other, “Oh yea, that is where the IRS is getting away with that much crime.” By IRS I don't mean a building, and by IRS I don't mean a title.
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| Posted: Thu May 23rd, 2013 03:08 pm |
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5/23/13 page 43 I think he is way out of his league, when it comes to the concept of political economy, based upon your current reports. Removed comma ("when it comes to the concept of political economy" is necessary to the sentance. I left the last clause because that last phrase can be moved anywhere between the clauses and the sentences still makes the same sense See rule 4 and 8 on this page: http://owl.english.purdue .edu/owl/resource/607/02/.) I think he is way out of his league when it comes to the concept of political economy, based upon your current reports.
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| Posted: Thu May 23rd, 2013 03:11 pm |
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5/23/13 page 43 Why is it that risk is borne only by the borrower when he, or you, or I, consider this concept of "private loans?" Moved question mark: Why is it that risk is borne only by the borrower when he, or you, or I, consider this concept of "private loans"?
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| Posted: Thu May 23rd, 2013 03:17 pm |
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bear note to Joe. Everytime you asked me that question about the difference between public and private, my thought was, "How should I know?" I think that is why I never answered the question at first until you pressed me. It was something I had to think about, and really didn't even know if my final personal conclusion was correct. Anyways, I am fixing some punctuation: 5/23/13 page 43 A person is said to be "private" one minute, and then something happens, and then the same person becomes "public," and then back to "private," then "public," so what happens? Ended the sentence with a period and started a new one that contains only the question. A person is said to be "private" one minute, and then something happens, and then the same person becomes "public," and then back to "private," then "public." So what happens?
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| Posted: Thu May 23rd, 2013 03:18 pm |
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5/23/13 page 43 Two questions restated below, enumerated, and offered as a possible road toward greater understanding as the answer may answer both questions. moved comma: Two questions restated below, enumerated and offered as a possible road toward greater understanding, as the answer may answer both questions.
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| Posted: Thu May 23rd, 2013 03:39 pm |
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OK Joe, I am going to tell you something. I have come to this segment: 5/23/13 page 44 2. What constitutes the difference between "public" and "private?" and I am having to look it up here: http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/577/03/ because even though I just quoted you a bunch of rules about this over at the DP, I cannot apply the rule myself without going and checking because the answer is so against my ingrained training from NASA technical writing. But then again, maybe I was only putting commas and periods outside of quotes back then. I don't know. OK here is the rule from that site: Place a question mark or exclamation point within closing quotation marks if the punctuation applies to the quotation itself. Place the punctuation outside the closing quotation marks if the punctuation applies to the whole sentence. Now I ask myself, well, they are talking about exact quote from people, not quotes about things...so now I go on another rule hunt: so I go here: and find this: Here is a quick chart of the differences: http://blog.apastyle.org/apastyle/2011/08/punctuating-around-quotation-marks.html I will ad this link to my grammer resource segment here on your forum and I will come back later to figure out this answer (which I am sure I have already figured out before in my editing this time around.) See Joe, I have very poor retention, and it drives me crazy because I used to be able to remember everything. To enclose a quotation, use… American Style: Double quotation marks British Style: Single quotation marks To enclose a quotation within a quotation, use… American Style: Single quotation marks British Style: Double quotation marks Place periods and commas… American Style: Inside quotation marks British Style: Outside quotation marks Place other punctuation (colons, semi-colons, question marks, etc.)… American Style: Outside quotation marks* British Style: Outside quotation marks* *Place other punctuation inside quotation marks when that punctuation is part of what is being quoted, such as a quoted question. --------------- So the answer to my question is: 2. What constitutes the difference between "public" and "private?" should be: 2. What constitutes the difference between "public" and "private"?with the question mark outside of the quote because the quote is not the question
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