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| Posted: Mon Feb 25th, 2013 07:35 am |
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Joe Kelley Administrator
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What if God made life to give individual perspective a place to grow more powerful? What if The Devil was every individual perspective at the weakest level of power? So then the time alive is an opportunity to gain power, to then hope for another opportunity to gain more power when, in time, death takes that one individual life? Will power increases are not so much as a given, as they are earnings.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 25th, 2013 01:19 pm |
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kurtwaters Guest
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I don't believe in one God or a devil.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 26th, 2013 12:28 pm |
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Joe Kelley Administrator
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A working definition of God can help? God The power source of everything, the power of creating. Now, if each thing, no matter what it is, the chicken, or the egg, the Big Bang, or the thing called energy, or the thing called hydrogen, every thing, not being here, at this time, and then being here, at this time, or even time itself, or even the first thing from which to begin measuring time, any thing, all things, was not, then is, so the power of creation can be, as far as I know, more than one power, but where did that power come from, I don't know, so the word God, in that sense is like pointing into the unknown, as far back as there is, as far away as there is, as simple as anything ever was, then going beyond that simplicity in its simplest form, beyond that, even beyond the theoretical concept of a singularity (whatever that means) to that first ever thing ever, going beyond that, to find the source of all, and pointing to that, saying, oh, hi, there you are, you are God, nice to meet you at last. I found it interesting to read Kurt Vonnegut's Sirens of Titan and find the stuff called the universal will to become, which was powerful stuff. God The power of creation The idea, not the words. The perception, not the thing, since I, so far, cannot actually perceive God, but I can, I think, perceive that which has been created, so I have evidence of the source of all those things having been created. I suppose, thinking now, that everything was always here, and if so then I may have to adjust my perspective of God, who would then be just another thing that was always here, and I can think, perhaps, God may be the last one to go, and then, please, put back all the stuff that went somewhere, or nowhere, please. I can elaborate on this viewpoint, which is derived in part from my attempts to understand the Big Bang Theory, along with the concept of simplicity versus complexity, along the lines of the concepts of entropy and ectropy, which is Thermodynamics and whatever ectropy is in fact. I find it odd that ectropy is not recognized by any spell checkers. Also not recognized by any spell checkers, oddly, is the word inculpatory. I wrote too much?
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| Posted: Sun Apr 14th, 2013 04:12 pm |
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kurtwaters Guest
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Now, if each thing, no matter what it is, the chicken, or the egg, the Big Bang, or the thing called energy, or the thing called hydrogen, every thing, not being here, at this time, and then being here, at this time, or even time itself, or even the first thing from which to begin measuring time, any thing, all things, was not, then is, so the power of creation can be, as far as I know, more than one power, but where did that power come from, I don't know, so the word God, in that sense is like pointing into the unknown, as far back as there is, as far away as there is, as simple as anything ever was, then going beyond that simplicity in its simplest form, beyond that, even beyond the theoretical concept of a singularity (whatever that means) to that first ever thing ever, going beyond that, to find the source of all, and pointing to that, saying, oh, hi, there you are, you are God, nice to meet you at last. In Hinduism they call him Brahma. I spend a lot of time trying to go to this place you have just described. I get closer and closer with each attempt.
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| Posted: Sun Apr 14th, 2013 04:44 pm |
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Joe Kelley Administrator
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Please describe in detail what thoughts or what willpower, or what perceptions are employed or perceived during this process. I call it prayer or meditation when I try to find where thoughts come from, to listen, and not to willfully cause thoughts to be thoughts. This is how I arrived at my perception existing perception and it is a long story involving the concept of perceptions of pain, indecently occurring while I was in much pain, as the concept of being in more and more pain, and more pain, and more pain, and meanwhile the concept of time being longer, and longer, in more pain, for longer, and more pain, and longer, and then the concept of acceleration of pain, and multiplying the time factor by eons, and then increased rate of the acceleration of pain, and time in pain expanding exponentially greater, and then suddenly the pain decreases in the rate at which it is accelerating, and then returning to zero eventually, and then going the other way from that base where pain first began. Does that sound familiar at all?
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| Posted: Sun Apr 14th, 2013 11:57 pm |
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kurtwaters Guest
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Are you referring to physical pain from something like a broken bone?
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| Posted: Mon Apr 15th, 2013 10:27 am |
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Joe Kelley Administrator
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At the time of those thoughts of time and the level of relative pain I was dealing with a pulmonary embolism which was physical pain, but the thinking was more of a creative venture having to do with not directing my thoughts and finding these ideas being presented to me for consideration, and the idea took on a shape like a sign wave but not as if looking at an oscilloscope, instead something non-dimensional or mult-dimensional. Those thoughts turned into, or appeared as a stepping stone to thoughts concerning the idea of nothingness existing for eternity and then the first thing appears after a time period that reduces the scale of measurable time in our universe to a relatively small amount of time, like a fraction of an electric spark being the entire life span of the universe we measure in our (or my) perception. Then nothingness again for a period of time that makes the time before our universe, by scale, a fraction of an electric spark itself, as nothingness takes over for another incomprehensible time span. Then I think things like all that being on a scale that is smaller than a fraction of the distance between protons and neutrons and outside that universe that we perceive is a universe that is a larger scale existence so distant from our nothingness and our little spark, or my nothingness, and my little spark (since perception does not exist as far as you know), that the time to travel, even at the speed of light, between one thing and another thing in that larger scale universe would take an amount of time that makes the time of our nothingness appear like a fraction of a spark in that world. These are the concepts, or ideas, or thoughts, I sometimes get when I work to turn off my willful thinking, not doing any actions, just praying or meditating, seeking the origin of thought. I've also run into ideas concerning the concept of infinity whereby everything does happen including every conceivable perception experienced by every single perceptive being. That is where, to me, things get scary.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 30th, 2013 01:47 pm |
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Joe Kelley Administrator
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ControlWhat if I told you there is an incredibly simple way to tell not only who's good and who's bad, but also how to tell who is pushing absolute evil onto our world?
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