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 Posted: Sun Nov 18th, 2018 02:07 pm
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Joe Kelley

 

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"You will still be taxed. You will still go to war."

The aristocratic vote, or electoral politics vote, was known (once upon a time) to be anti-democratic, and thereby anti-republican, but that was before a whole lot of brainwashing done to many generations of slaves.

Some exceptions, such as Ron Paul, prove the fallacy that politics, as a rule, must be bad, or even that all men are bad.

The vote that counts, if people are to rule themselves as one, is the votes made by the volunteers as the volunteers face those who are clear and present dangers to peace in a perishable liberty.

Deception is a very powerful force.

"It was a principle of the Common Law, as it is of the law of nature, and of common sense, that no man can be taxed without his personal consent. The Common Law knew nothing of that system, which now prevails in England, of assuming a man’s own consent to be taxed, because some pretended representative, whom he never authorized to act for him, has taken it upon himself to consent that he may be taxed. That is one of the many frauds on the Common Law, and the English constitution, which have been introduced since Magna Carta. Having finally established itself in England, it has been stupidly and servilely copied and submitted to in the United States."

"Trial by the country, and no taxation without consent, were the two pillars of English liberty, (when England had any liberty,) and the first principles of the Common Law. They mutually sustain each other; and neither can stand without the other. Without both, no people have any guaranty for their freedom; with both, no people can be otherwise than free."
Lysander Spooner, Essay on The Trial by Jury

"Among the enumerated powers, Congress are to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts, and excises, and to pay the debts, and to provide for the general welfare and common defence; and by that clause (so often called the sweeping clause) they are to make all laws necessary to execute those laws. Now, suppose oppressions should arise under this government, and any writer should dare to stand forth, and expose to the community at large the abuses of those powers; could not Congress, under the idea of providing for the general welfare, and under their own construction, say that this was destroying the general peace, encouraging sedition, and poisoning the minds of the people? And could they not, in order to provide against this, lay a dangerous restriction On the press? Might they not even bring the trial of this restriction within the ten miles square, when there is no prohibition against it? Might they not thus destroy the trial by jury?"
George Mason against the Constitution of 1787

Page 40
Private Prosecutors
Roger Roots book The Conviction Factory:

"For decades before and after the Revolution, the adjudication of criminals in America was governed primarily by the rule of private prosecution: (1) victims of serious crimes approached a community grand jury, (2) the grand jury investigated the matter and issued an indictment only if it concluded that a crime should be charged, and (3) the victim himself or his representative (generally an attorney but sometimes a state attorney general) prosecuted the defendant before a petit jury of twelve men. Criminal actions were only a step away from civil actions - the only material difference being that criminal claims ostensibly involved an interest of the public at large as well as the victim. Private prosecutors acted under authority of the people and in the name of the state - but for their own vindication. The very term "prosecutor" meant criminal plaintiff and implied a private person. A government prosecutor was referred to as an attorney general and was a rare phenomenon in criminal cases at the time of the nation's founding. When a private individual prosecuted an action in the name of the state, the attorney general was required to allow the prosecutor to use his name - even if the attorney general himself did not approve of the action.

"Private prosecution meant that criminal cases were for the most part limited by the need of crime victims for vindication. Crime victims held the keys to a potential defendant's fate and often negotiated the settlement of criminal cases. After a case was initiated in the name of the people, however, private prosecutors were prohibited from withdrawing the action pursuant to private agreement with the defendant. Court intervention was occasionally required to compel injured crime victims to appear against offenders in court and "not to make bargains to allow [defendants] to escape conviction, if they ...repair the injury."

How much brainwashing was done in order to convince (con) the people into believing their costly defense of rule of law (common law with trial by jury) during the Revolutionary war was instead a war to copy the British model of Empire Building through subsidized slavery, enforced and funded with central banking fraud, and extortion claimed to be a tax in the National Interest? Even a modern-day patriot, like Roger Roots, is apparently unaware of the fact that the Consolidated Nation State was the beginning of the end of American free market government: freedom defended by volunteers, using common laws of free people, in a perishable, but effectively defended liberty.