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Oath Keepers above.
"Marines have the right to refuse an unlawful order..."
Here is precisely where the people MUST help our specialists who specialize in effecting our mutual defense in ways that constitute that specific phrase offered in our common history.
Fools rush in where angles fear to tread.
Combine that with this:
Proverbs 8: To fear God is to hate evil.
I am not being extremely careful with my sources here, but that can be done after the general principles are offered to anyone caring to know general principles.
The reason why the criminals get away with so much wanton destruction, in our time, is that the criminals have figured out how to consume the best and brightest people born in America.
We the people have to get on the same page.
Which page?
We the people "...have the right to refuse an unlawful order..."
There is an example that ought to be employed by anyone who cares to understand, by example, the meaning of our natural right to behave morally on our own authority in time and place.
Here is such an example:
http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/mylai/myl_intro.html
Not too many of us know where things in our country turned from moral people in command of our common defense by our authority to know right from wrong, as our world turned bad, as our world was then commanded by very evil people commanding their POWER OF LIES upon us.
We ought to know the truth.
But, having an understanding of how the FUNDAMENTAL LIES work, and actually being on the ground in situations requiring sound moral judgment, is what it is, in time and place, and it is then no longer an idea, if the principle works, then it works in fact.
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Hugh Thompson, by now almost frantic, saw bodies in the ditch, including a few people who were still alive. He landed his helicopter and told Calley to hold his men there while he evacuated the civilians. (One account reports Thompson told his helicopter crew chief to "open up on the Americans" if they fired at the civilians, but Thompson later said he did not remember having done so.) He put himself between Calley's men and the Vietnamese. When a rescue helicopter landed, Thompson had the nine civilians, including five children, flown to the nearest army hospital. Later, Thompson was to land again and rescue a baby still clinging to her dead mother.
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Now, thinking of principles again, in time and place, either principles work, or principles do not work.
Starkness of NIGHT is contrasted against the starkness of DAY, as EVIL is starkly contrasted against clear examples of GOOD.
Facing misled fellow soldiers so as to defend an innocent baby, in time and place, is contrasted by the following:
http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/weaver/spenceletter.html
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Later that same day, Randy, Kevin, and Vicki Weaver, Randy's wife went down to where the boy lay and carried his body back to an outbuilding near the cabin. There they removed the child's clothing and bathed his wounds and prepared the body. The next evening Weaver's oldest daughter, Sarah, sixteen, Kevin, and Randy went back to the shed to have a last look at Sam. When they did, government snipers opened fire. Randy was hit in the shoulder. The three turned and ran for the house where Vicki, with her 10 month old baby in her arms stood holding the door open. As the 3 entered the house Vicki was shot and slowly fell to her knees, her head resting on the floor like one kneeling in prayer. Randy ran up and took the baby that she clutched, and then he lifted his wife's head. Half her face was blown away.
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LIES drive good people leading good people to become beasts.
This is not news.
LIES distort sound moral judgment.
It may be a good idea to discover the principle LIES that compound into special interests whereby the worst evil beasts imaginable are having so much fun at the expense of the innocent among us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY-F5JoHoho
This is not news.
Perhaps like me there are people among us, like me, who learn from past errors, and we find current solutions.
Take any victim anywhere. Afford them as much due process as anyone else, including the worst criminals imaginable, an effective defense against any harm at all.
Every one, without exception, every single one, including mothers holding babies, including babies, everyone is afforded as much common decency as anyone else INCLUDING the same due process afforded to the worst criminals imaginable in all of our common history.
What would that due process look like if that due process fell into your lap?
"When they did, government snipers opened fire."
That is a LIE. Criminals open fire on mothers holding babies. Affording them the credit they earn, not the False label of "government snipers"? Criminals issue criminal orders.
Claiming that the order is unlawful is giving too much credit to the criminals who issue criminal orders.
Giving credit to the criminals.
Giving credit to the criminals.
How?
Call them criminals. Stop calling them government agents.
Whose government are they working for, if you claim that they are government agents?
When a criminal perpetrates a crime without a false badge, do you rush to them to give them a badge, so as to help them cover up their crimes?
A run of the mill, average criminal, perpetrating horrible crimes as the victims witness first hand, is known as a criminal, NOT as a government agent.
Will you rush to the defense of an average criminal perpetrating horrible crimes as the victims witness first hand precisely what horror means in time and place, you rush in to pin a badge of innocence upon the criminal and thereby afford the criminal the opportunity to perpetuate their horrible crimes they continue, growing more and more beastly by the minute, as the bodes of the tortured innocent pile all the way up to heaven?
No, that is absurd, no one in their right mind would intentionally place a badge of innocence on people who burn babies alive in churches, or place a badge of innocence on people who shoot mothers holding their babies as teenage children watch their mother die a horrible death.
So why does anyone in their right mind call those murderers government agents?
Did you know that the government sniper who shot Vicky Weaver was still working as a "government sniper" during the pogrom in Waco Texas?
Sure, sure, everyone, including the worst criminals, every one, is afforded the same due process, for our common defense, for our Liberty, because principles either work or they do not work, and this principle of due process afforded to everyone without exception does work, when people use it, but when people ignore it, when those who order those specialists to obey orders to shoot innocent mother's holding babies, to torture children in churches, to burn babies alive, then it may be a good idea to hold one of those "leaders" running "our federal" government to an accurate accounting once.
Once is better than never.