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| Posted: Mon Jun 2nd, 2014 03:15 pm |
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Joe Kelley
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Here again is a video concerning the wrong answer to the wrong answer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HkSAewoESg In that video there are concepts that offer extreme value and utility in our common law common defense. 1. Misidentifying the criminals as criminals leads to the criminals getting away with their crimes PERPETUALLY. 2. Accurate identification of the absolute necessity to accurately identify HOW TO accurately identify the criminals as criminals is a FUNDAMENTAL necessity. Know the facts, do NOT believe LIES. Failing to realize the effective process is an initial miss step, leading to PERPETUAL WAR among people who would otherwise be effectively defending the innocent from harm by those criminals who are never accurately identified as criminals. 3. The criminals took over what was once a working Federation of Constitutional Republics, and those criminals did so in 1787, and those criminals have been behind all things done at the False Federal Level since 1787, so the use of the word Federal Government, for all practical purposes, in this country, is at best wishful thinking. Example: I will find the time, again, in that video, whereby MISS-IDENTIFICATION occurs as a potentially fatal mistake, whereby true patriots, who could be people working effectively at our common defense, who may be arresting criminals instead of MISS-IDENTIFYING criminals, whereby the accurately identified criminals are then offered common law due process, so as to DEFEND THOSE CRIMINALS along with DEFENDING EVERYONE, instead of accurately identifying the criminals, the MISS-IDENTIFYING of the criminals will lead to further error, further compounding confusion, further webs of deception, further misplaced defensive posturing, further misplaced command of defensive, deterrence, as defensive capability of meeting aggressive violence with defensive violence, all due to the same obvious, measurable, provable, reasonable beyond a reasonable doubt, for any 25 people picked out of any number of people in a jury pool (a pool constructed for that purpose according to our common law common defense due process), or any 12 people representing the whole country, in a court of record, according to our common law, according to our common law as confirmed in the Bill of Rights (NOT the so called Constitution), so as to avoid MISS-IDENTIFYING the criminals among us, who WILL perpetually perpetrate crimes upon us, if we fail again, and again, and again, and again, to actually identify the criminals as criminals, as those criminals are NOT members of a Federal Government agency. This video was taken down, but it is now back up, so I am going to relink this video, and I am going to find the specific words spoken at the specific time when the most basic, the most fundamental, the most dangerous error is made in time and place, where boots are potentially on the ground shooting and killing each other over ONE BASIC SHARED LIE. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HkSAewoESg Time 27:20 "Our big goal here is about the Federal Government..." Anyone contemplating any volunteer work (with or without compensation to offset your day job income, or your capacity to make a living and stay alive at making an honest living, so you need compensation for your time as you take time-off of your normal productive schedule) in our common defense, which is our common law, which is ANYTHING that does work to actually defend the people from the criminals, including Militia duty, including Jury Duty, including anything, anywhere, anytime, where our common defense is effectively made real, WITHOUT violence, because or efforts DETER violence effectively, if anyone is interested in our common defense, and you think that video is of no importance to you, and you think that there are more productive things to do than to understand what is going on in that video, then we, you and I, are on two sides of a line YOU draw in the sand. I do not want to step over into the line in the sand drawn by anyone who claims that our common defense can be based upon our common refusal to know the pertinent facts required to be known, and understood, concerning the absolute necessities required for our mutual defense. I do not want to step over the line in the sand drawn by anyone who refuses to do anything productive by which ignorance can be defeated through careful, deliberate, inspection of the vital facts in any case whereby innocent people WILL be harmed by criminals unless enough people care enough to defend those people who WILL be harmed without such careful employment of time and energy (time and energy is power), careful deployment of defensive power, is in fact our path to our common defense, and it starts as people step over their line in the sand where they refuse to recognize their own ignorance, apathy, as their line they draw in their sand box. In that line in that sand, inside that sand box, where that line goes around each one in that line, in that sand, are the people inside of their willful legal fictions. I will not go inside that sand box. At time 27:20 are confessions of someone trapped inside that sand box of legal fiction. If that Oath Keeper, that defender of Liberty, can, will, set outside of that sand box of legal fiction, then those people he is calling The Federal Government become, in his eyes, and in his speech, and therefore in our eyes, and in our speech, criminals, nothing but criminals, and only exceptional criminals in the sense that their counterfeit Federal Uniforms are used by those criminals while they perpetrate the crimes they perpetrate. Time 27:20 "Our big goal here is about the Federal Government..." To drive this point home, if at all possible in one mind, just one more member of our jury pool, stepping firmly past the line that defines the LIE, the fiction, whereby one, please, one more member of the people, stepping outside (and never going back inside) that LIE, please, I will quote the context of the message offered by the Oath Keeper (honorable member of our common defense = misdirected by the lie): “Keep focus, this is not about Oath Keepers, this is not about the minute men, this is not about the three percent-ers myself, Robert, this is about the Bundys, and so, everybody out there that’s been donating, continue to support the Bundys, continue to work on this, and what our big goal here is, is about, what the Federal Government…pushing themselves on American people, and…a lot of patriots out here, and all of us have to make sure we make this all work.” What is the goal? The goal is deter. The goal is defend. The goal is to inspire the criminals to abandon their interests in perpetrating crimes upon the innocent because the effective defense, well communicated, will afford the criminals their own defense BEFORE they follow through with any crime upon any victim anywhere. The goal is to show how American people will defend American people from all enemies foreign and domestic, and that any enemy foreign or domestic who dreams of perpetrating crimes upon American people, will find their dreams to be unprofitable for them to dream, let alone perpetrate, in our country. So...Joe...Mr. Know it All, safe in your home, writing so easily at your desk, big shot, where do you come off accusing these fine people of doing anything wrong? The Federal Government is not a Federal Government, it is a Foreign Corporation traceable back through time and place to Money Monopoly Fraud and Extortion Criminals perpetrating the crimes of Fraud and Extortion, while hiding their crimes behind a very, very, very THIN veil of falsehood, and that veil is lifting, but in those words, obviously, the LIE continues to divide us, and we will be conquered by that lie, if we do not figure out how to defeat that LIE sooner, before it is much, much, much, too late. The most obvious, recent, example of the type of situation occurring right now, not just at The Bundy Ranch, is the example that happened in Waco Texas in 1993. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hswcbvx2Z8c http://www.public-action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum/death/death.html You don't realize the CORE PROBLEM if you do not understand why the fundamental ERROR is expressed in the following words: Time 27:20 "Our big goal here is about the Federal Government..." The so called Federal Government is a false front, a collection of gate keepers hired to BAR the gate, with a lie, a line in the sand, a line in the sand around the sand box of Legal Fiction, whereby those who run the show will brutally murder anyone inside their sand box, who dares to blow the whistle as Sonny Bono was doing in that so called "hearing" in that so called "congress," in that time, in that place in our country. Our common defense cannot be founded upon a LIE, if anyone claims that our common defense can be founded upon a LIE, knowingly, or unknowingly, inside their ignorance, or outside of their ignorance, it matters not, the fact is that no defense other than defense of the LIE is possible when the foundation is a LIE. The LIE works so well, in fact, that the true, accurate, fully accountable, measure of how well a Federal government power works at effectively defending the people is LOST behind that LIE at the same time that that LIE defends the very well paid LIARS. That is the lesson offered. Keep calling the liars anything other than liars, and YOU give them false credit, YOU give their lies power, YOU work out of ignorance in defense of the LIE, and in defense of the LIARS, if YOU fail to realize those two very important facts enumerated below: 1. A Federal government existed between 1776 and 1787 for our common defense in this country, and it was proven to be effective enough to work for people who drove off the largest army of criminal invaders, and solve an internal battle occurring in Massachusetts whereby criminals who took over the Constitutional Republic of Massachusetts worked to enforce their crimes under the color law, and their victims ran like runaway slaved from that criminal State of Massachusetts, inside a Voluntary Federation, and they ran into the working Constitutional Republic of Vermont which is was also inside the same Federal Government Agency. There were no False Federal Slave Trade Enforcers hired to enforce Fugitive Slave "Laws" when our Federation was a true Federal Government. 2. When the criminals took over in 1787, not only did they remove our common defense with our Federal Government Power, they then set about enslaving everyone while they hid behind a false Federal Government; which then prevented anyone from working toward regaining effective control of our Federal Government. Additional fact: 3. The Criminals destroyed our common law defense through our common law grand jury due process, and that is an irrefutable fact, as the destruction of our common law grand jury due process was destroyed by the lie that our government existed at a Federal Level, and no such thing was true after 1787. What is the utility, the value, of knowing any of those reports of our common history in our country offered above? It is not too late to return to our common law grand jury defense of our Liberty in our Constitutional Republics as part of our Federal Government Power of Defense. Why? The reason why it is not too late has to do with our true founders managing to document our Bill of Rights. We the moral people, not we the criminals, but we the peaceful people, not we the violent aggressors, we the people share the founding principles found in our Bill of Rights, and that is an example of why it is not too late to realize, to make, to enforce, to judge, to try, anyone claiming that a LIE is good enough for our government work. From the moment you step outside of your line in the sand whereby you are captured into that Legal Fiction that was created in 1787, from that moment on, you are free of that LIE, and then we the people have your additional clearing of your conscience to help us in our common defense. After 1787 there was a battle of words, and after 1787 the battle of words ended up with our Bill of Rights as our law of our land. If you want to keep repeating words claiming claims of value and utility associated with the LIE that was formed in 1787, YOUR supposed Constitution, then know what you are claiming, please. You are claiming that slavery is legal in YOUR country, for that LIE was hatched in YOUR Constitution. NOT YOUR BILL OF RIGHTS. You can't seriously serve both Slave Master and our Bill of Rights, so to claim to do so, to serve two masters, is a false claim if you do not know any better, and a willful LIE if you know it is a LIE. In that so called Constitution was also the claim made by the criminals that Piracy is legal. There are other false claims of false authority done willfully by the liars in that so called Constitution, but that is not the point. The point is that our Bill of Rights, and our common law grand jury due process, was offered to us by our true founders, and we can command our effective defense despite the LIES infecting the so called Constitution; whereby our Federal Government was handed over to enemies foreign and domestic; and that was done, as a matter of record, in 1787. A true common law court of record can record that fact in one of our first cases. Any good man. Any good woman. Any member of the people, any one, can find the good in any Constitution, and anyone can find the good in our Bill of Rights at a true Federal level, or at a true Constitutional Republic level, or at a County level, or at a City level, or at the level of one case, in one common law grand jury court of record, in time and place, and that is the point at which our FOCUS can focus down into laser like POWER, to defend one, or many, victims, from one, or many criminals, even when common law due process is being used to defend one criminal from another criminal. How can that last sentence be hammered home in words? Our common defense is based upon our shared principles, and those principles are based upon the facts of our existence within Nature, or for those who are religious, our principles are based upon the facts of our existence within the Nature that is created, and afforded to us, by God, the common creator common to everything that is created. Our common defense is based upon the principle that everyone who is not afforded as much defense as anyone else WILL be injured by some damn criminal because the criminal is afforded the opportunity to destroy someone BECAUSE too few of us care to step outside of that BOX OF LIES that BAR our common understanding of our common principles such as our common law due process that is afforded to everyone INCLUDING the criminals. Our common defense includes the defense of criminals injured by criminals, despite the insistence demanded by criminals to be criminals in fact. Our common defense works when we the people insist upon recording into our courts of records the discovery of precisely who are the criminals because we the people will not allow the criminals to perpetrate crimes upon people. We the people will not allow the criminals to perpetrate crimes upon other criminals. So, in that, is offered enough information to afford someone locked up in the sand box of lies, locked up in the Legal Fiction of a False Federal Government POWER commanded by enemies of our Liberty, anywhere, from any foreign land, from any foreign cabal of liars, and that information ought to be sufficient for readers to realize that any Constitution, at a Federal Level, or at a State Level, is only as good as the people employing it, and one Constitution or another one won't save, or harm, anyone, unless people understand precisely what people will do under the color of false authority, or under the sound direction of true authority as they see it in time and place. No number of people assembled in any numbers from 2 up to 8 Billion, sharing a common belief in a LIE, such as the LIE of making Slavery Legal, or making Piracy Legal, will ever be anything other than an Angry Mob, no matter how many of those people say otherwise. No number of people assembled in any numbers from 2 up to 8 Billion, sharing a common belief in the absolute need for Truth in Governing, such as those common law grand jury procedures AIMING to proceed according to discoverable facts, can injure anyone based upon a LIE, if they merely follow the procedures honorably, justly, and mercifully. If you discover, as so many have including me, that the Criminals took over in 1787, and that they are still occupying our government at our Federal level, they are still pretending to be our government at our Federal level, then you will no longer be driven by that LIE, and you will no longer be inspired to injure innocent people by that LIE, because you will then know better about that LIE. Those criminals themselves, at the False Federal level, may not even know that they are criminals, so it may be a good idea to begin informing them in no uncertain terms, that we the people will no longer tolerate the LIE. We will no longer add credibility to the LIE. Until such time as someone, anyone, working as an employee at the False Federal Level, confesses that their employers are enemies of our Liberty, there can be no return back to our Federal government; contained behind our Bill of Rights. If they say, as they did in their Constitution, that they are Federal Agents here to enforce slavery, to return the slaves back to their masters, then we, we the good people, we the moral people, say to those criminals that they are not our Federal Agents, no, by their actions they are criminals perpetrating crimes behind a False Federal Agency. We the people assemble as 4 people in each county, and we take each False Federal Agent through our due process, and we do so in defense of that criminal, so as to afford that criminal the opportunity to know better, to know, beyond a reasonable doubt, that that criminal is NOT a Federal Agent of our government at our Federal level. We the 4 (plus a secretary makes 5) are then commanded by our principles, by our need for accurate accounting, by our common need for our common defense that avoids LIES, we then assemble by LOT the number of 25 people to create, according to our common law procedures, the procedures handed down to us by our ancestors, not the procedures dictated to us by criminals, our true procedures based upon our true principles, not the false procedures based upon LIES, and those 25 people are then moving much closer to intimate contact between defenders of Liberty and criminal aggressors who may violently destroy life on earth, so those 25 people ought to be intimately familiar with our common law principles without ERROR of any kind, because lives are at stake, our lives are at stake at that point when someone will not listen to reason, and then those 25 can offer, again, reasonable remedy for the accused who may be accused of perpetrating crimes under a False Federal claim of Authority. Example: http://commonamericanjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/BLM-Claims-B... If the 4 people volunteering (with or without just compensation for their valuable time and energy = their power to survive well in Liberty) cannot reason with the man commanding the attack dog, then 25 people are assembled by LOT (sortition). You ought to know the history of "sortition" by the way. If the man proves to be more beastly than the dog, in that case, and the man refuses to listen to reason, to reason out how the man is misled by LIES, then the 25 are assembled to offer the man a more reasonable defense against further harm done to the man, due to those LIES. If the 25 cannot reason with the man, affording the man a reasonable defense against further injury resulting from false belief in the LIE, then 12 are assembled with more POWER, and now the rubber meets the road, and now those 12 command all the POWER anyone commands in our country to deal with beasts among us, beasts who WILL not listen to reason, beasts who WILL command dogs to attack innocent people, beasts who WILL NOT cease and desist, beasts who WILL burn children alive in churches if ordered to do so, by False Federal Agents, or by any criminal order ordered by any criminal anywhere, because we all know, beyond a reasonable doubt, that burning innocent children alive in churches is a crime. Deterrence of crime is not possible when the criminals take over the apparatus that is put in place to deter crime. If that is not understood, at that Federal Level, then how can anyone expect to understand how things went so wrong at the Constitutional Republic level, or the county level, or the city level, or the church level, or the family level, or the individual level?
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