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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U94A5SmTUOo
I stopped that Educational Video at the point when the Rancher spoke the term Equal Footing. I stopped to link this:
http://freedom-school.com/private-property-rights.html
That is not wild goose chase stuff sending defenders of our Liberty down a rabbit hole. That is common sense, common law, natural law, God's Law stuff. From the concept of authority NOT being a Tyrant, to the concept of authority being God's Law or Natural Law, from true authority, real authority, NOT Tyranny, in so many words, common sense authority, from that are claims of ownership of land, claims made by various people, including regular Joes and including Tyrants. Who settles any case of conflict concerning any claim of land anywhere across this land of the free where we defend each other from Tyrants?
How do we the people communicate our common sense claims to our common law land ownership or our stewardship (we can't abuse each other with land, or with pointed sticks, or with rocks thrown by tyrants, or lies told by liars) in cases of disputes? How do we defend ourselves from false claims?
Terms like equal footing doctrine have worked, are working, and will work so long as English words carry accurate meaning in time and place, and so long as the people are not fooled by Tyrants, and their lies, when Tyrants change the meanings of words at their pleasure and at the cost of those who fail to realize the deception.
Equal Footing Doctrine and Title Abstract and Allodial Title are terms that mean specific things concerning any conflict arsing whereby a cloud is placed on a claim of title. The one who can prove a constant chain of title back to the original owner (God or Nature) wins in a common law grand jury case BEFORE it goes to a trial jury case, and if someone does not listen to reason, then 12 people are randomly selected (by lot) from the local area where the dispute occurs, and then those 12 people solve that problem. If those 12 people are stupid, those 12 people may then be criminals themselves, for failing to know Natural Law concerning claims of ownership of land, or failing to trace back authority to real authority, failing to trace back authority beyond the Tyrants, failing to avoid BEING tyrants.
Why is that idea offered to you now? That idea is offered to you now because common law grand jury POWER during the grand jury negotiation stage ASSUMES that 25 people include at least one person who knows such things as Equal Footing Doctrine, so as not to then rely on only 12 people to represent the whole country of people, as is the concept of trial by jury, which is trial by the whole country, NOT trial by tyrants.
If 25 people representing the whole country cannot offer a reasonable deal to those in conflict over a land dispute, what does the accuser and the accused think will be their chances when only 12 people are working on Justice, Honor, and Mercy in that case of that dispute over land ownership claims of authority?
Quote from the link that links the people to the information on LAND TITLES:
Quote time:
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When property is held in allodium, all police powers are removed from the property. There are no building permits required and there are no property taxes (feudal duties) due. When property is held in allodium, the title is called a Land Patent.
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That is the stuff of our common sense, common law, which we the people ought to know, so we the people can effectively defend each other in our common law grand juries and our common law courts and our common law trials by our common law jurists who are assembled by lot to accomplish any conflict resolution in time and place, and do so honorably, justly, and mercifully.
Man has been on land for how many years? Millions of years, and just now the idea of conflicts over claims of land ownership have to be settled by ordeal? Employees of a foreign corporation show up with guns drawn ready to shoot innocent people over a cloud on the title?
That is barbarity. If you were not watching as intently as I was watching when the barbarians tortured children for weeks on end in Waco before burning them alive, then you may not understand why so many people across this country started forming effective Militia Units. You may not see the significance of the foreign corporation employees backing down in this case. You may not see how the attack DOGS had more common sense than the foreign corporate employees who were ordering the well trained attack dogs to attack innocent people who were involved in a dispute, or cloud, on a title of land.
A Chinese based corporation hires goons to do whatever it takes to remove the cloud on the title of land that those people are interested in, and those people in that Chinese based corporation think they are protected under a false claim of limited liability (from Nature and/or God), and they care not that their employees are fond of torturing and burning alive innocent children, for fun and profit, and in this case someone, somewhere, some people defended our common Liberty, and the goons backed off, the goons had enough sense to back off, or the goons were given more orders to follow without question, so the goons backed off under moral orders instead of the goons going ahead and obeying criminal orders without question.
So I rant, rant, rant, with word based upon what I see as conflict resolution in time and place in our time in our places; because I've seen, witnessed, the methods used by the employees of the foreign corporations as they LOVE to burn babies alive for fun and profit and I do not stand for such things. So yes, I rant.
Update 05/04/2014
Update 05/07/2014 Note: I go off on what may seem like a rant, the bottom line here is that we can command our common defense with our common law so why invest so heavily in ONE BIG LIE when that truth is in our power to command?
http://www.dailypaul.com/318226/notice-constitutional-militias-are-withd...
From that link is this quote:
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There are now people at the ranch who are best described as militant. These people want to force an armed confrontation. Some are with Operation Mutual Aid and the Mountain Men Militia which are not as their actions have proven Constitutional Militias. Ryan Payne of Operation Mutual Aid has released a stream of videos making accusations of Militias and Oath Keepers being cowards because they fell back and scattered out when the possibility of a drone strike was obtained through intelligence channels. It appears that Mr. Payne’s intent is to discredit other groups so he can remain in control, and that he wants a war. The Militias want a solution. Many militia members have been to war, and will fight if that time comes, but are in absolutely no hurry to speed up the process and kill other Americans if it can be stopped without violence.
The common law rancher, who was born naturally with a name, a good name, was not going to wait for the cows to come home, he went out and saved those cows from the evil bandits before those criminals could slaughter and bury the evidence, covering up their heinous crimes.
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Note: Those who use the term Federal Government to be a synonym for Organized Crime as speaking double speak and most people fail to see the significance of that very destructive error.
Speaking of errors:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZByJ5z0LaLs
1.
Failure to identify friend from foe has many possible costs paid for by those who fail.
a.
Friends of Liberty fail to connect to friends for their common defense.
b.
Friends of Liberty fail to identify those who destroy friends of Liberty and Liberty.
c.
Criminals (friends of falsehood, threats against innocent people, and violence upon innocent people for fun and profit of criminals at the expense of victims) fail to connect to friends of crime for their common profits taken from victims
d.
Criminals fail to identify those who effectively defend innocent people and Liberty
2.
A government by the people, of the people, and for the people once was called a democratic form of government and the best of the best democratic form of government has been accurately identified as a Federation of Constitutional Republics such as the examples provided by:
a. Holland (at the time of the American Declaration of Independence)
b. Switzerland (at the time of the American Declaration and possibly today)
c. The Federation under The Articles of Confederation consisting of 13 Constitutional Republics between 1776 and 1787
3.
The current Consolidated (Monopoly) Government in America is not even a government, it is not a Constitutional Republic, it is not a Federation, it became a crime in progress, or organized crime, or Fraud and Extortion under the color of law, or Central Banking Monopoly Power, or False Federal Government, or Nation State, or Corporation (Limited Liability), or Legal Fiction, or The Fiction, and that USURPATION occurred in 1787.
Three sources PROVE, beyond a reasonable doubt the facts on the ground in 1787:
1.
http://deuceofclubs.com/books/274secret.htm
http://archive.org/stream/secretproceedin00convgoog#page/n12/mode/2up
Secret Proceedings and Debates of the Constitutional Convention
Robert Yates, Luther Martin (1787; kept secret until 1838)
2.
http://www.nationallibertyalliance.org/files/docs/foundingdocs/Antifeder...
Federalist Papers (The real versions not the false versions)
3.
http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_transcript.html
The False Constitution of 1787 itself
Slavery was made legal (supposedly the law of our land)
Piracy was made legal (supposedly the law of our land)
Fraud was made legal (the constitutional convention was a proven fraud)
Extortion was made legal (the actual federalists warned specifically about this "tax" power)
Money Monopoly Power was made legal (This is the actual reason for the fraudulent "Constitutional Convention"
a.
Slavery: Three fifths clause at the start and then the 16th amendment enslaving everyone equally, plus enforcement of so called "fugitive slave laws" (color of law if any existed ever in the dark history of our kind)
b.
Piracy: What do you think Letters of Marque and Reprisals are?
c.
Extortion:
"Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons."
Again, slaves became legally slaves in 1787 disproportionately, and the so called 16th Amendment made slaves of everyone
d.
Fraud:
"One party, whose object and wish it was to abolish and annihilate all State governments, and to bring forward one general government, over this extensive continent, of monarchical nature, under certain restrictions and limitations. Those who openly avowed this sentiment were, it is true, but few; yet it is equally true, Sir, that there were a considerable number, who did not openly avow it, who were by myself, and many others of the convention, considered as being in reality favorers of that sentiment; and, acting upon those principles, covertly endeavoring to carry into effect what they well knew openly and avowedly could not be accomplished. " That is a quote from those who attended the Usurpation and took notes (against dictatorial "gag" orders) during the fraudulent creation of a false government power.
e.
Money Monopoly Power:
"But Hamilton wanted to go farther than debt assumption. He believed a funded national debt would assist in establishing public credit. By funding national debt, Hamilton envisioned the Congress setting aside a portion of tax revenues to pay each year's interest without an annual appropriation. Redemption of the principal would be left to the government's discretion. At the time Hamilton gave his Report on Public Credit, the national debt was $80 million. Though such a large figure shocked many Republicans who saw debt as a menace to be avoided, Hamilton perceived debt's benefits. "In countries in which the national debt is properly funded, and the object of established confidence," explained Hamilton, "it assumes most of the purposes of money." Federal stock would be issued in exchange for state and national debt certificates, with interest on the stock running about 4.5 percent. To Republicans the debt proposals were heresy. The farmers and planters of the South, who were predominantly Republican, owed enormous sums to British creditors and thus had firsthand knowledge of the misery wrought by debt. Debt, as Hamilton himself noted, must be paid or credit is ruined. High levels of taxation, Republicans prognosticated, would be necessary just to pay the interest on the perpetual debt. Believing that this tax burden would fall on the yeoman farmers and eventually rise to European levels, Republicans opposed Hamilton's debt program.
"To help pay the interest on the debt, Hamilton convinced the Congress to pass an excise on whiskey. In Federalist N. 12, Hamilton noted that because "[t]he genius of the people will ill brook the inquisitive and peremptory spirit of excise law," such taxes would be little used by the national government. In power, the Secretary of the Treasury soon changed his mind and the tax on the production of whiskey rankled Americans living on the frontier. Cash was scarce in the West and the Frontiersmen used whiskey as an item of barter."
Source: http://www.amazon.com/Reclaiming-American-Revolution-Kentucky-Resolution...
4.
A working Federal Government works like this:
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Second, federalism permits the states to operate as laboratories of democracy-to experiment with various policies and Programs. For example, if Tennessee wanted to provide a state-run health system for its citizens, the other 49 states could observe the effects of this venture on Tennessee's economy, the quality of care provided, and the overall cost of health care. If the plan proved to be efficacious other states might choose to emulate it, or adopt a plan taking into account any problems surfacing in Tennessee. If the plan proved to be a disastrous intervention, the other 49 could decide to leave the provision of medical care to the private sector. With national plans and programs, the national officials simply roll the dice for all 284 million people of the United States and hope they get things right.
Experimentation in policymaking also encourages a healthy competition among units of government and allows the people to vote with their feet should they find a law of policy detrimental to their interests. Using again the state-run health system as an example, if a citizen of Tennessee was unhappy with Tennessee's meddling with the provisions of health care, the citizen could move to a neighboring state. Reallocation to a state like North Carolina, with a similar culture and climate, would not be a dramatic shift and would be a viable option. Moreover, if enough citizens exercised this option, Tennessee would be pressured to abandon its foray into socialized medicine, or else lose much of its tax base. To escape a national health system, a citizen would have to emigrate to a foreign country, an option far less appealing and less likely to be exercised than moving to a neighboring state. Without competition from other units of government,the national government would have much less incentive than Tennessee would to modify the objectionable policy. Clearly, the absence of experimentation and competition hampers the creation of effective programs and makes the modification of failed national programs less likely.
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A false federal government works like this:
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
The solution was offered by the real Federalists with the Bill of Rights during the RAT-ification process.
The Constitution itself is a fraud, but that does not discredit the utility of forming an actual Federal Government power, such as that example provided as The Articles of Confederation as those people in those 13 Constitutional Republics were able to defend against all enemies to Liberty foreign and domestic up until Shays's Rebellion and then the Usurpation of 1787.
So yes, a constitutional form of government is a voluntary government whereby the people are the government and the people create a government for their common defense against all enemies foreign and domestic, such as the constitutions in each Republic and such as The Articles of Confederation which formed that example of a
Federal Government Power.
Those who did, do, and will claim that The Articles of Confederation were a failure could have, can now, or can in the future explain precisely what they think failure means.
Hamilton and the Central Banking Criminals took over our country in 1787, if you call that success, then you ought to confess that you too are a criminal.
Do you advocate the slavery before and after The Civil War?
Do you advocate legalized piracy under the color of law?
Do you advocate criminal fraud under the color of law?
Do you advocate criminal extortion under the color of law?
Do you advocate having everything than can be stolen from people in Liberty so as to then move all that stolen power into one FUND whereby the criminals use that stolen power to make slaves of us all including the slavery that is demonstrated during
World Wars that are bought by your Masters so as to keep the Slaves enslaved?
If that is all the stuff you want, for your fun, and for your profits, then of course you will LOVE that specific fraudulent record of that crime that remains in POWER despite such things as The Declaration of Independence, The Articles of Confederation, each Constitution in each Republic, The Bill of Rights offered by the true founding fathers, our common law grand jury due process, and plain old moral conscience working to help us preserve our souls.
Good luck with that lie, how is to working for you so far?
Original post follows:
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A steward of all that is good, nurturing, providing, helping, earning good life on earth had his, and his loving families sustenance stolen from him.
And then a modern standoff at a modern OK Corral ended as the good guys dodged that bullet.
It was a close call.
It was broadcast live to the whole world.
It was another Ruby Ridge, another Waco, set into play by the criminals running that show.
This time the history is written by the winners of that battle too, but this time the criminals did not get away with their crimes.
This time history is written by the good guys.
The battle is not over.