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| Posted: Thu Mar 13th, 2014 02:55 pm |
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Joe Kelley
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Rick, The date of Sun Nov 20th, 2005 is the date I started this Forum. The date of this specific idea of seeing present me relevant to past and future me, which is a competitive (relative) viewpoint, and applying that to The Golden Rule, was the Posted date of Sun Oct 6th, 2013 10:06 am. The reason why this qualifies as an epiphany (as far as my viewpoint is concerned) is the use of this idea to remove causes for argumentation as one viewpoint may content with another viewpoint as so often happens between one individual and another individual in time and place. In other words, if two people are going to argue, then all the reasons in the world can be found independently to do so, because two people are not the same - ever. Why argue with yourself? What would be the point? That whole process, the dynamics of it, the realization of that idea, would not have been possible, or at least much less likely, had I not found and read Equitable Commerce by Josiah Warren. http://www.anarchiwum.bzzz.net/yak/equitable%20commerce.pdf Individuality is accurately measurable as an unbreakable principle? So your question: So, I have to ask, as much as I take your clarity as a view I will move on going forward, do you still feel as strongly as you did that day almost 9 years ago? More so, by a wide margin. Now my life is a constant engine of perceiving the problem as it exists and looking at it from a new perspective, and then finding the words to describe that dynamic process. Persistent work forms patterns of behavior? The reason I produce this web page has to do with my work having been willfully removed from other web pages on a long list of web pages whereby my viewpoint was worthy of censorship for reasons that were stated in the form of lies, or for reasons that were otherwise kept secret. Some of those experiences are recorded here on this web page. No one stands toe to toe with me in any discussion of principles, for long, with very few exceptions. One person has, and from that experience a book was written, and printed. I have 100 copies minus the few I've already sold or given away (investments). You are welcome, encouraged, please, test my viewpoint. We can write a book. I know I can; with generous help, because an example book now exists. There is no way one of us, any one of us, can credit ourselves for anything, let alone everything, so who deserves the credit? How about this: http://oll.libertyfund.org/index.php?option=com_staticxt&staticfile=show.php%3Ftitle=2182&layout=html#chapter_202933 The ancient maxim makes the sum of a man’s legal duty to his fellow men to be simply this: “To live honestly, to hurt no one, to give to every one his due.” This entire maxim is really expressed in the single words, to live honestly; since to live honestly is to hurt no one, and give to every one his due. This is not unrelated information. What do Central Bankers do? The term "Central Banker" clouds the true, accurate, measure of the actual criminals. They, the criminals, convince their targeted victims in believing that they, the criminals, deserve to command the power to spend every accurate measure of surplus wealth produced by anyone who actually creates that POWER TO PURCHASE. How much does it cost to anyone if anyone is led to believe that Credit is not Credit, whereby instead of Credit being Credit, the opposite is true, whereby Credit is Debt? Good is Bad? I can sympathize with my past self, having once held a belief in such lies, and I can see me arguing with my present self, claiming that my present self is fabricating lies, or that my present self is misinformed, or that my present self is misled. Is it a good idea to consider the real possibility that my future self can say the same things to my present self? Should I look for someone else who is far ahead of me at this time, in this place? Might it be a good idea for me to not only listen to you but to do so with a focused intent upon realizing your point of view as you intend for me to know your point of view without me creating false versions of your point of view in the dynamic process that can be called discussion? Will I be able to point out where your point of view, as I see it, is in some measurable way a false viewpoint? Will you be able to correct me if I offer critical analysis of what appears to me as a false viewpoint you share with me - and I am wrong, demonstrably wrong? Persistence in seeking my own error works toward reaching a goal? The dynamic process is due everyone without exception, and the goal is Liberating for those who share it? How about a saying that might serve to illustrate the point offered? Pearls to swine? I'm a pig, but at least I know it? Finding the giants worthy of credit, those who offer pearls to swine, are not what they may appear to be, they are merely helpers who pass on the pearls of wisdom, not taking credit, merely transferring the data from the source, which may or may not be the same Creator seen by each individual in each place at each time? You want help, like me, then we can compare notes, and I do not demand any credit, far from it, I'm just another piggish messenger boy. Thanks for the opportunity to borrow your viewpoint, it is reinforcing, it helps, and it is not an obvious demonstration of more of the same criminal intent offered by so many other people as they either mimic, parrot, obey, and preserve falsehoods, jealously, or they are in fact the evil minded liars that invent new and improved lies, earning the credit they deserve as dangers to happy life for us and our posterity. Eventually my ability to offer words will reach a point of diminishing returns, I'll grow feeble minded, who knows, perhaps Al's Hammer sets in. Meanwhile I appreciate the help reaching for Liberty. Who doesn't?
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