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 Posted: Wed Nov 13th, 2013 09:10 am
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Joe Kelley

 

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Here are relevant links:

San Bernardino County Charter

Note: Moving the goal post is common for those who willfully break their own claims of authority as the saying goes "Do as I say, not as I do." The rule today might be that it is perfectly fine to enslave someone. The rule tomorrow might be it is not perfectly fine to enslave someone. Who enslaves who, why, when, and where?

Who invents, produces, and maintains victims?

Who deliberately finds effective ways to defend victims?

When, where, and how are victims defended effectively in the past, now, and in the future?

If the enforcers are enforcing something other than defense of the innocent, then what are they enforcing?

Statutes? Voluntary agreements? If it is a voluntary agreement then volunteers can voluntarily disagree in time and place. If it is not voluntary agreements then how is it anything other than crime, or enslavement, or involuntary association in time and place?

The obvious grey area exists in falsehood, ignorance, apathy, as manufactured consent, false advertizement, response conditioning, behavioral modification, also known as brainwashing.

Statutes

Statutes can be understood as offers made by any number of people seeking voluntary agreement, and voluntary association, to be offered to any number of other people. Statutes can be understood as tools, like a hammer is a tool, and a hammer can be used to drive in a nail, and a hammer can be used to crush the skulls of anyone who does not obey every order without question. As soon as someone questions the people who enforce the order to obey without question the Dictator (false authority) picks up the hammer and crushes the skull of anyone who dares to question the authority of the order.

Now is where the reader should reconsider the concept of agreement in finding like minded, free, Liberated, people, who are not suffering from abject belief in falsehood without question, whereby each of these free people share the need to challenge authority, to trace authority back to the source of authority, so as not to fall victim to false authority ever again.

If the authority claiming to be an authority in any place and at any time does not know how to trace their authority back to the source then that is a confession of fact, or that could be a lie, and who would know?

Who has the power to know if someone is lying?

If Magna Carte acknowledges where the source of authority exists, tracing authority from the lowest level up to the highest level, then that ought to be understood.

Magna Carte is Statute or the invention of man for man. In that place and time it was Barons defending all the free people in England from a Despotic King named John, and in that document are references to common law (not the English words because English was not yet a language) and trial by jury.

Clearly Magna Carte was inferior authority under the people who created it.

People who create Statutes are above the things, the tools, they create, to be used, or abused, by people.

Trial by Jury was a process, created by people, and it was considered to be a process due to everyone, a process based upon the golden rule, a process based upon the concept of Rule of Law, and these are all English words describing events that existed before English was a language.

The common law, in many forms, appears to involve Natural Law, or God's Law, or any concept of an authority that is above individual people. A creator of all things creates all things including stars, planets, lower life forms, and higher life forms such as people.

A rock on a planet has no authority over the planet that created the rock. Life on a planet has no authority over the sun that supplies the power to maintain the life on the planet, at least not yet, which life form will crate stars, or destroy them?

The life on the planet could, conceivably, gain the authority to move to other planets where other solar systems support life.

Intelligent life of that level of authority would have to work effectively toward that goal or fail to reach that goal as a point of demonstrable fact in time and place.

The idea of life surviving is an idea the includes the recognition of an authority that exists above the individual life where the idea is currently working in that life form.

Life must accept the fact that natural law, not man-made law, is the higher authority, or failure to do so leads, inevitably, to obvious cases of extreme human error, including the obvious examples falling under the English term Dictatorship.

If dictatorship is deemed to be unfavorable to survival of life, what then exists instead, as if the idea is to fill the vacuum that will exist once all the Dictators have killed each of their number down to the last one.

Here are all the survivors of Dictatorship, and here, on the other part of the planet Earth is the last Dictator.

How do the rest of human kind proceed with a process that is due to every survivor of Dictatorship so as to live and let live without Dictatorship?

Is it a good idea to send every last accurate measure of earnings to the one remaining Dictator and expect that the one remaining Dictator will not use those accurate measures of earnings, that POWER, to buy fellow dictators and recreate Dictatorship on Earth?

With that idea in mind, I will begin looking for things in the San Bernardino County Statutes; which are under the California Constitution in Authority, under The Constitution for the United States in authority, under The Articles of Confederation, under The Declaration of Independence, under Magna Carte, under common law with trial by jury, and under the people, and under natural laws, and under the creator of everything if anyone ever climbs that ladder of authority that far back to the source of authority anywhere on this planet.

 

According to the Creator,

Ancient Custom,

Ancient common law,

The Declaration of Independence,

The Constitution uniting States of America into voluntary union,

The Bill of Rights,

and

According to the California Constitution


San Bernardino Count Coordinator (one of many)
California State Coordinator (temporary until unseated voluntarily)
Joe Kelley 760-447-7139760-447-7139760-447-7139760-447-7139
josf.kelley@power-independence.com
josf.kelley@hotmail.com


My contribution to the concept of leadership in San Bernardino County California so far:

1.
Attend the National Monday Meetups and begin to assemble the necessary mindset that can then be utilized to complete each step along the way that ends up with a number of elected jurists commanding a common law grand jury in San Bernardino County California.

I am not an Attorney.

So far my experience here at National Liberty Alliance has been a mixed bag of typical encouragement, enlightenment, discouraging vituperation, and down right libel. The net result, or score card, is decidedly positive whereby the standard of measure is relative to reaching the desired goal: defend the innocent from injury by criminals perpetrating crimes under the color of law, do so peacefully, as is the shared, voluntary, intention of government by consent of the governed, which had been a cultural heritage handed down for centuries in the form of trial by jury.

There is no way that I can sanction, or honor, or lend moral and material support to another criminal hiding behind a false badge of authority in any way, shape, or form, including me "leading" others who do not have their mindset in order on this path leading toward the reestablishment of common law grand juries in every county in California.

There is no way that this can work in any county, in any state, anywhere, if the old criminals who are perpetrating crimes under the color of law are being replaced with new criminals who are perpetrating crimes under the color of law.

No way.

There must be a way of knowing who is on the right side and who is on the wrong side if there is going to be any chance of this present effort of establishing common law grand juries so as to defend the innocent from injury by criminals who are perpetrating crimes under the color of law.

One possible offer of leadership in San Bernardino county, and in California, and in any state, as far as I am concerned, is the easy to know difference between someone firmly on my side, which I can safely say is the side of Liberty, and I can offer that this side is our side, is this:

1.
A mindset that understands the absolute necessity to be an individual human being that is in no way connected to the existing order of government as it currently exists in the form that it exists; because it is a foreign government operating on American soil.

2.
A mindset that fails to understand the above, and therefore the individual human being will take false steps that end up with the individual himself, or herself, being led falsely into a trap whereby the criminals running their foreign government apparatus on American soil entrap that individual into their spider web of lies, threats, and horrible, terrifying, violence.

If you are with me, not against me, in San Bernardino county California, then please help me confirm what needs to be confirmed before we combine our collective efforts toward the necessary work required to make the next step that moves us from our current place as we then occupy a common law grand jury in San Bernardino County California.

I will cut and paste this unto my own forum.
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