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 Posted: Tue Oct 22nd, 2013 12:41 pm
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Joe Kelley

 

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To mark my spot where I intend to offer a concern of a possible serious misstep, the following link is bookmarked here (for later use).

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The problem is routine recurrences of people who resort to involuntary associations.

Two or more people connect to each other in time and place.

What is the nature of the connection?

It may help to offer a realization that there are times and places where people exist without involuntary association and from that time and place called Liberty there is then a willful thought and a willful action by someone, or by some group, whereby an involuntary association occurs.

So the idea, offered now, is to contemplate the time and place where Liberty exists, and to know that such a time and place is strictly voluntary, as it stand to reason that the introduction of involuntary association ends the quality of Liberty.

So there it is, in spirit, in mind, if not in fact, a condition of life known as Liberty, whereby those in Liberty are volunteers, volunteering to co-exist, without resort to the unwelcome creation of any involuntary association.

Having that place and time in mind, it can be understood by those having that place and time in mind, and in spirit, that people in Liberty do not resort to specific actions that can be accurately measured as actions that destroy Liberty.

Those actions that destroy Liberty can be accurately measured and entered into a Record of accurately measured actions that destroy Liberty.

Now, having a concept of what is Liberty, and then having a concept of what is not Liberty, the stark contrast of comparison of Liberty can be seen, starkly, as Liberty is compared, in a relative, competitive, accurate, measure, to the opposite of Liberty.

Here is Liberty, people do these things here, and this, here, is NOT Liberty.

Here is the first instance, Recorded on the Record, of a case where someone, in time, and in place, destroys Liberty, here is what happened, and it can be easily understood, easily measured, accurately measured, in FACT, that this is what happened when Liberty was destroyed in this way, right here, at this time.

Call that accurately measured instance of the destruction of Liberty recorded into a record a Legal Precedent, if that is what word works best to convey that message, and call the place whereby the Recording is done a Court of Record, if that is what works best to convey that place where that process of Recording a Record of what happened when Liberty was Destroyed in Time and Place.

Here is Liberty.

Here is the time and place where Liberty was destroyed.

Here is the place where the Record of where and when Liberty was Destroyed was recorded, is now being recorded, and will be recorded, and the name of the place where the process proceeded to Record where and when Liberty was Destroyed is, for now, until some better name comes along, the name of this place, right here, or right there, is a Court of Record.

Who goes to the Court of Record to Record where, and when, Liberty was Destroyed, whereby the State of Liberty, a strictly voluntary association, suddenly became an involuntary association, and no longer was Liberty in FORCE, at that time, in that place, when Liberty was Destroyed, who, who, who, goes to a Court of Record so as to accurately Record, for the Record, when, and where Liberty was Destroyed?

Who finds it necessary, or who finds cause, or who finds reason, or who finds it to be a good idea, or who finds it to be a competitive idea, to stop earning their way through life, to stop earning their way through life, in Liberty, to stop being productive, to stop living the dream, to stop their pursuit of happiness, or to stop their pursuit of property (gained at the expense of no one involuntarily), who stops what they are currently doing to then travel to a Court of Record so as to Record the END OF LIBERTY in that time and place where Liberty was Destroyed, where strictly voluntary association became involuntary association?

Who goes to the Court of Record to accomplish the job of accurately recording the events that occurred in time and place whereby Liberty was Destroyed?

If the victim is dead, then the victim can't go anywhere in the victims former human form. Dead men tell no tales.

If the victim is alive, but so broken, so injured, as to be unable to afford to go anywhere, let alone go to work, then the victim is as good as dead in reference to the work required to accurately Record the events whereby Liberty was Destroyed. The victim was rendered powerless by the criminal, and the victim cannot afford to go to the Court of Record to Record how, when, and where Liberty was Destroyed.

For the Record.

Here is Liberty.

Here is where it was Destroyed.

Who goes to the Court of Record?

The person who willfully decided to Destroy Liberty, to turn all voluntary associations into an involuntary association, in that specific time, in that specific place, defining the meaning of crime, may, or may not, desire, want, have an interest in, going to The Court of Record to Accurately Record the Destruction of Liberty.

Why would the criminal want, or not want, to make sure that the Accurate Record was Accurate, and therefore attend the Court of Record whereby the process of Recording the Destruction of Liberty is Accurately Recorded?

I use too much capitalization?

If those people running the so called Court of Record are Criminals themselves, for example, the lesser criminal (lesser evil) would have no interest in fighting the greater criminal (greater of two evils) since the obvious result of a Criminal version of a Court of Record would be a False Accounting (counterfeit) whereby the more powerful criminal falsifies the Record in the Court of Record, so as to favor the greater evil over the lesser evil.

If those people running the so called Court of Record have a monetary interest in profiting from the crimes perpetrated by the lesser criminals, then the greater criminals will falsify the Record so as to increase their profits at the expense of the victims.

How does anyone know if the operators of the Court of Record are there to make sure that the record is accurate, not false, and in that way there is an incentive for everyone OTHER THAN criminals to attend to their duty, which is to ensure that Liberty remains in FORCE?

The victims may not want to go to the Court of Record for fear, and the victims may not be able to go to The Court of Record for economic reasons (not able to afford the additional expense that is over and above the expense of being victimized), and the victims may actually be murder victims.

The criminals may want to go the the Court of Record for fear, and the criminals may be inspired to go to the Court of Record to ensure that the Court of Record is not falsified by anyone, and here is where there must be TRUST in the POWER of accurate accounting. If a criminal realizes their error, seeking a means by which Liberty can be reinstated, so as to get past the point where Liberty was Destroyed, then where would a criminal go to make sure that the Record shows that the criminal is no longer a criminal?

The criminal goes into hiding?

The criminal has stepped through a time and place whereby the criminal can never return to Liberty?

Liberty, once it is Destroyed, is forever gone for the criminal once the criminal willfully Destroys Liberty?

If a Court of Record is Accurate, nothing more, merely Accurate, then Mutual Interest is at play whereby the victim, the criminal, and any other disconnected, disinterested, objective, witnesses, all, everyone, except those who remain convinced in the need to willfully Destroy Liberty, want, need, desire, and can profit from, an Accurate Record.

Liberty is here.

Liberty was destroyed at this time and this place.

Those who desire Liberty meet and Accurately Record the events whereby Liberty was Destroyed.

How?

Discover the evidence that can be entered into the Court of Record.

Go to the victim, the witnesses, and if possible go to the accused (presumed to be innocent of willful intent, and presumed to be innocent of any wrongdoing whatsoever) and CONNECT by connection, a voluntary association between the person claiming to be a victim, the person claimed to be the criminal, and the people working (their specialized job) to maintain an Accurate Record in a Court of Record.

If the Victim (claimed to be a Victim or Victim in Fact) does not TRUST that the people hired to maintain an Accurate Record, then the effort to create a voluntary connection between the Victim and the people hired to maintain an Accurate Record will be impossible unless TRUST can be restored. In other words the Victim will either resist or not resist based upon reasons that can be Accurate Recorded and Maintained, or there may be a Interest in creating an Involuntary Association based upon falsehood.

How about an example?

Person A is an employee hired by people in Liberty to specialize in the keeping of Records in The Court of Record whereby cases where Liberty has been Destroyed are Recorded for the Record, in case anyone has an interest in knowing, accurately, what happens in time and place, whereby criminals create victims?

Person A realizes the need to contact the Victim and gain accurate information from the Victim, if possible, so Person A invents a method by which the Victim is contacted by Person A.

Is the method by which Person A contacts the Victim an Involuntary Association or is there a request made by Person A, for the Victim to attend a session of fact finding, discovery, if it pleases the Victim?

That is a long STORY I am telling to get to the point.

The point, right here, is to point out a possible need to avoid losing TRUST as potential employees who specialize in maintaining an Accurate Record speak to potential employers.

Person A asks the Victim if Person A can be of service to the Victim.

I am here to help, Person A says, in the capacity of someone specializing in maintaining an Accurate Record in a Court of Record, so as to preserve for future employment a Record of exactly what happens when Liberty is Destroyed by Criminals as Criminals create Victims.

If Person A goes to the Library and Person A claims to be the Master of said Library, and the person hired to keep the Library operating as a Library is said to be the Servant of the Master, then, if that happens, in my view there is a possible reduction in TRUST due to the choice of words used in the effort to make a connection that is strictly Voluntary, a connection that does not intend to Destroy Liberty.

I suppose that my word choices (and the number of words) could be improved so as to convey the intended message more effectively.

I cannot improve without feedback.