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John,
I appreciate the effort in defense of Liberty, however you have set up many roadblocks that signal to me a measure of resistance that weakens my power to participate.
I can explain in great detail.
The following link is just a start:
http://www.power-independence.com/forum/view_topic.php?id=961&forum_id=10
To condense that information down into one statement I can say that there is no way I can make an oath to a known fraud in progress.
Setting that obstacle aside, or rewording the oath, still leaves much in the way of contention concerning the meaning of words and the accurate identification of true principles.
I have stopped the Jurist Orientation Presentation at the point where capitalist propaganda (false from my view) was being claimed as fact, another obstacle. Why can't there be a truce concerning which side of the fictional fence a person agrees to belong?
Setting that aside, so long as the actual association is able to get past ideas concerning property, and the association can be mutually understandable as a voluntary association, there remains to be room, at least it seems to me, for my participation.
It is unfortunate that the divisions among the targets (involuntary capitalist versus involuntary socialist) infects even those who are averse to any involuntary associations whatsoever, no matter by which ideas of property or ownership the individual happens to favor in Liberty.
I will try to join, and listen, and avoid disruption of proceedings on Monday Aug 16, 2013.
I can't agree to that oath to obey a crime in progress, that would be dishonorable on my part.
Joe