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 Posted: Mon Jun 10th, 2013 10:32 am
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You know that word - anguish? That is what my mind feels after another dose of "your words stating my thoughts as far as I can tell". I've already said all I'm going to say about that. So there is a favor I have to ask from you as my friend. If you from this point forth in any reply directed at me while composing it will have an incentive in any way to write these or similar words - please do not. Words are always secondary to the meaning the are supposed to convey. Thus I give you my word that in no circumstance did I or will I mean to state/suggest/indicate/project/whatever your actual thoughts. Consider that my native laguage is context-free. Maybe that will help to get over this. In any case - I am not going to reflect upon these "your words stating my thoughts as far as I can tell" and alikes any longer.

>>> Kazarian Parasites?

What is the nature of the question?

>>> "binary logic assumption"

That is pretty much how it sounds like when we get rid of irrelevant surrounding upholstery such alleged words that supposedly appear to claim something. Binary logic assumption = conditioning of an individual or a group of individuals as result of binary logic implementation. Do you recal and old rule? - People are stupid - they will believe any lie if they want to believe it or if they are afraid that might be true. The typical problem with this that there is no reverse rule to easily detect this being applied in any given case. Rings true? And it also contains a safety measure from being broken. Yet as long we stop viewing the situation from a binary logic perspective - the whole thing immediately falls apart. But you try that trula on any of your acquintances - you'll see aforementioned conditioning with your naked eye. That is a binary logic assumption at it's most obvious. I think this information should be enough for you to pick up what I meant initially.

>>> The statement in question was an actual message told to me by someone who was lying at the time, as far as I could tell, but the point here was to point out that the person doing the speaking, to me, at that time, in that place, was someone who may have reached the point at which he convinced himself that he was telling the truth, despite the obvious measure that what he was saying was a lie. He was not, in fact, intending to do anyone any favors, as he was, in fact, intending to steal things from the targeted victim.

I didn't doubt it, did I? Yet my words stand tall and true - typical example of confusion of virtues and vices. Lack of knowledge or false knowledge if you prefer is one way to name the cause.

>>> I find agreement in those words, but those words are difficult for me to connect to the words quoted before those words, as if those words and the words before it are unrelated.

Relation is indirect.

>>> The concept of biting the hand that feeds it was a reference to someone asking for help, which is something I am doing in this case, and then the source of the help is punished for the apparent crime of helping, and again there is an old (or not so old) saying that applies in this case as the saying goes: no good deed goes unpunished.

This last saying is stupid in terms of general meaning. Because it confuses. Actuality goes as following:

No good deed goes unrewarded.
No bad deed goes unpunished.

>>> I don't know if your words of what a person should do is connected, or relevant to, the concept of my too often asking for help, and then my too often response that can be seen as punishment for the deed of helping me.

There is nothing wrong in asking for help when one feels that his own power is not enough to get through some problem in a relatively appropriate time. 'Helping' is a relative term I think as well. As noted by you above - person can convince himself that doing what he does 'helps' while actually it isn't. Same goes for any approach relevant to this relative term.

>>> The case in point, again, is the case where your words indicate that I feel as if I can read your mind, and as far as I know my own thoughts and my own feelings, that is simply not true.

No case present. I'm sure that you are not able to read my mind. And never stated anything like that. I did use 'read mind' in relation to your constant remarks upon my words indicating that apparently I (or my words or whatever) claim to know what you think and blah-blah-blah as if I was able to read your mind. Not the other way around. Just a little clarification. Not diving into that cesspool of a topic.

>>> I could, at this point, self-censure, and delete the words I've already arranged before that last quote, for reasons that may be understood I won't.

Well, there's one difference between us. I would self-censure in such a matter. But anyway.

>>> feelings (vibrations?)

Elaborate.

>>> Now I think and feel that you may find use in my feelings and thoughts that concern my inventions of music, whereby I play music, and English words appear to be spoken from those inventions of music.

From I gather - this is not what I need. But it was interesting to find out about your attitude towards music. This song you speak of would not of much use to me right now, as I'm still far from enough knowledgeable on the subject to be able to analyze it's effect. What I would 'feel' about it is of miniscule importance in this case if I'm unable to narrow the specifics, and I yet lack that ability. I understand that this reply is vague, but it's all I've got cooked up at the moment. Thank you for your generous offer regardless.

As for the question of conveying information. Here's a little abstract. Tow people working/doing something together. It's a hobby or it's a job or whatever is not important. They do the something (as part of something bigger or not) one together. They absolutely require communication seeing as both are convinced perfectionists. Thus they speak. Nothing is perfect and it frustrates them, but they both are convinced perfectionists and there is non other to help them in what they do, and neither they would ask for someone else. Their communication develop into some sort of slang. Words are shortened, cause they are used to hearing them or those are the common words both of them use in a similar fashion. In time they only need to indicate a word - and a partner already understands what need to be done. What they are doing is dynamic, it's not the same repetition the same way over and over. Their skills increase. Soon there is not longer a need for verbal language - body language is enough, even though it may seem dull in comparison. They may not consciously understand it, but now information they communicate is no longer limited to their hearing and visual sensory input. Every bit of information has intended taste and smell and feel. No longer conditioned, tied down by the context of a verbal language information runs much more efficiently. One parthner needs only to look into the eyes of another and he/she already understands what had just been communicated. And that is the end of this abstract.

>>> what can the host do if the idea is to gain productive power?

What the host should do anyway - learn about this. Knowledge is the power in a sense that awareness provides both shelter and control. If one is aware of conditioning, mental blocks placed on him - he's likely to eventually get rid of them, even if for non-conformity's sake. Somewhat other way would be to change one's thinking into a more consistent language. Meaning changing the language you think on. At least in terms of thoughts that quickly formulate into words.

>>> How can language be improved in such a way to move closer toward telepathy?

Telepathy requires potential (which is essentially one's entity's bodies). Higher the level of convergence of matter types in one's entity - higher the potential. And of course progressing to said levels of converged matter types grants awareness related to them. And subsequently - the transfer of information this way - telepathy. So any cange in language should first get rid of flaws created for the language control. And then improvement should come naturally, as long as other areas related to psyche affection are not under social parasites' control. That is as general answer (containing something of substance) as I can manage I think.