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Jee-Host, Are you speaking to me and bringing up the topic of religion which you have asked me not to discuss? Or perhaps you are only speaking to Josf, which is what I was doing, and you have replied so that I can hear you speak these words:
It was post scriptum - afterthought. Right after words "delete at will". So until the quoting in the very end it was just thinking aloud.
Delete at will btw still stands for all my posts in this thread.
I hardly think it is fair for you to state your opinions, directed at me and my opinions, while placing duct tape over my mouth so that I cannot speak to the same topic.
I'm not placing duct tape. If you recall, I told that I only won't be responding to religious zealotry, nothing stops you from venting it if it's required for whatever purpose.
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Joe,
I do not like the fact that Sergey and bear are unable to reconcile differences that may be reconcilable, if I am at all able to demonstrate the possibility that such reconciliation can occur.
I'm willing to work out any differences as long as it involves working to do so. Not "God (supposedly) said this and that and therefore - this and that", but as per usual:
- What (Who)?
- How ?
- Why ?
I'd be the first to admit plausibility if there were at least some traction outside of binary logic. I can go on and on about appraising thoughts and ideas - ability - that everyone develops on their own. I find that if some "answer" was found then there is a better way to explain it than what I hear.
A difficult (somewhat) example:
I adore certain opera performers. Due to certain knowledge I have I can figure out with accuracy let's say vector of person's development. That is easier to do with artists, because any true artist put his soul into his art. My point is that I see some that are consciously work for self-development. And traces of that subtle work they do are noticeable. They WORK for self-development. They experiment for once.
And so did I with religion. Most sad thing about it are those who are true believers and good of heart. They manage to be good because of their souls, but this false pretense that was incrusted in their brains stops them from evolving, which is one of the goals of social parasites. these people are good not because of faith, but they are trapped in this vile circle and this enrages me. Many times it's not even their fault, but it's incredibly detrimental to their entities nonetheless.
But this is enough of me babbling and running around.
I can say, without resort to deception, that I think I understand the concept of becoming animal like, or animalistic, during the time when a blood clot was in my lung, and the pain of breathing caused me to breath faster, and I lost control of breathing, and therefore the pain was out of control, and the result was a panic attack, and then a sense of being animal like, while I paced around the hospital waiting room, waiting for a room.
Scratch that. I said:
"And if after I can also demote HIS SOUL to an animal STATE or even destroy HIS SOUL - I will."
My English is just that bad.
But anyway, I talked about execution as proper option because at this point there couldn't be other means. And this measure wouldn't really hamper things, but rather help in the long run. Because they didn't do it (at least not often enough) this whole social parasite problem we have today is as worse as it is. Soul (entity) develops along with body. If wrong choices are maid soul develops and 'distorts' accordingly. At some point there are too many wrong choices accumulated and from that point forth the only way for that soul to survive is to become a parasite. But naturally, being a soul of creature so complex as human this soul is more dangerous than soul of some random tiger. And there are means to demote or destroy any soul. Demoting to the point from where development can begin anew and on the right track is one thing. Destroying dissipates the entity, freeing the matter. Certain people describe this process as 'unmaking' to the zero point.
So let's say my ancestor made the right choice to spare parasites. Can you spin logical chain of events that can even remotely justify it? I suppose that they didn't the right choice and paid for it eventually, with their civilization being destroyed and purposefully buried into oblivion. There is a great deal of things one can learn from them and use in today's life to make it much much better. But ultimately they failed because they got destroyed. So I cannot be like them or I end up the same. I have to be better. And for that I shouldN'T make the same mistakes they did. Being overly humane in the stage where humanity is not yet ready. Take faith for example. A great early-stage tool of survival, brings people together by chaining yet undeveloped abilities of the mind. But, it is no longer needed, and so by the will of parasites it becomes an instrument of suppression. For them - no mean is unjustified if any profit is gained and any non-parasite is at least slowed down in his development in any way. Because parasites are as obsolete as faith. They work as natural niche only in animal world. But parasite with a mind - is something else. It doesn't belong anywhere - and that is why everywhere it goes it destroys everything around it. Early execution of those parasites would have given their souls another chance. But by not doing it my ancestors doomed these souls and with them many other souls on which parasites feed.
I don't know why am I even taking time to say all this. Surely you've researched certain things for yourself. You might not be aware of matter types and level model, but a man as smart as you can't not know all this stuff above already.
Just ignore me, I'm going on and babbling off-topic again. Let's pretend that I didn't say anything.
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