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 Posted: Fri Apr 12th, 2013 04:57 pm
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I am busy today and am making this reply to Joe and Sergy:

I cannot understand you Sergey. These words to Joe:

Joe,

I know it's hardly my business, but I wish you luck beating your head against the wall, because I already said that I won't.

But I know that every person's wrong choice is punished the very moment of committing it. And it's not some arcane force being applied by some supernatural being. I know the ropes of said mathematics, so we can discuss that in some other thread if you find this prospect to your interest. As is with any development, certain early stage axioms become obsolete and no longer accommodate reality. Seeing the vast amount of data you have produced on the subject of political economy I imagine you think that too. So the problem occurs when people professing those axiom are unable to evolve past them. Kinda like with modern scientific dogmas - just ways to not admit that mistakes were made and deal with those appropriately. You and I touched the subject of gravity once. I think that one alone is enough to prove the point.

Now all this is kinda off topic so feel free to get rid of this comment.


Sergey, Joe and I were discussing something and then you pop in and say those words. Which words? The words to the effect:

Joe, if you get tired of beating your head against the wall...and if you want to talk about what I KNOW which is different than what bear knows because bear has not yet evolved. I KNOW that people pay for the wrongs immediately. bear is stuck in an archaic frame of reference. She has not evolved. But, Joe, I have evolved and I KNOW things...so Joe, quit beating your head against the wall, if you are interested I have a pillow you can lay your head on while I tell you what I KNOW.

Now, those are not the exact words, but Sergey that is how those words sound to me. And then you have the nerve to tell me, no, that is not what I meant at all in so many words

Then you say this:

Does it really matter? I wasn't talking to you then. Ah, what the heck... Here we have a certain saying that refers to a seemingly completely pointless task, like beating one's head against the wall. It goes as following: "Argue with a priest". No priest can ever be outargued on the subject of his religion, nor will that priest ever admit that he was, always having the last word in any such arguing. So I was referring to that - doing something that I find pointless. Though I must admit - it can be a funny show from a third person perspective. Anyway - enough about that, seriously now.

Talking to me is like arguing with a priest?...it is a pointless effort?...Joe, if you get tired of pursuing a pointless effort, that of talking with bear about certain things, then talk to me. I have evolved. I have the TRUTH speaking to me is not beating your head against the wall.

And then you say

I having a hard time finding instances of me claiming to know THE TRUTH

Well, here: you have evolved. Let me get the words that you KNOW:

>>> Number 3) Who says that someone who doesn't accept YOUR truth has not yet "evolved" to YOUR state of being?

I just learned that I apparently have personal truth. That throws my mind in a loop. Don't have anything to say about that at the moment.


So...you APPARENTLY have PERSONAL TRUTH? Fine and that PERSONAL TRUTH is what?

Is it this thing that YOU KNOW:

But I know that every person's wrong choice is punished the very moment of committing it. And it's not some arcane force being applied by some supernatural being. I know the ropes of said mathematics...

You say I KNOW 2 times in 3 sentences and the sentence in the middle is also something that you know “And it’s not some arcane force being applied by some supernatural being.” You KNOW?
And then according to you TRUTH is SINGULAR? So, only what YOU KNOW is TRUTH because you are going to prove it by mathematics. OK Sergegy.

And then you say this:

1st was the reaction I had on over-assuming done by bear, and even though I expressly answered what I meant and what I didn't mean - this same over-assuming about the same words said by me and explained persisted. What does that make me feel? Ignored? Or maybe bear thinks I'm lying to her when I make short answers?

So now I get to read “bear OVER ASSUMES. My words do not mean what bear THINKS they mean because I EXPRESSLY ANSWERED WHAT I MEANT AND WHAT I DIDN”T MEAN….and that bear PERSISTS IN OVER ASSUMING no matter how much I explain that she is not archaic, she is not a wall, and she is not a pointless effort…that of arguing to a priest who cannot be out argued and who is never wrong…

No, Sergegy, I don’t think you are lying. I think you are being duplicitous. Or perhaps bear cannot read English and Joe knows that bear has a hard time reading English and also says false things about people.

Now, you could be like Joe and tell me if the shoe doesn’t fit, don’t wear it. Or you could say you are on a soapbox talking to anyone but me with your words.

So of course you are not speaking about my belief here:

As is with any development, certain early stage axioms become obsolete and no longer accommodate reality. Seeing the vast amount of data you have produced on the subject of political economy I imagine you think that too. So the problem occurs when people professing those axiom are unable to evolve past them.

And then one also has to take into account the words in the “Not to clutter” PM in which I was also treated to the fact that it was quite possible that I have not had the opportunity to evolve. So Sergey, you KNOW that you HAVE evolved and that is how you KNOW the PERSONAL TRUTHS that you have. But it is quite possible that I have not had the opportunity. So, even though you mean nothing by your words, they still place you as more evolved than me. I guess I am not a bear, but still part monkey, but you Sergey, you, are more human than me.

Now, tell me that is not what you mean so that my unevolved monkey mind can ignore your words, because actually they are so evolved that only an evolved person can understand them, so why wouldn't a mere monkey ignore them?

And because I can understand some of Sergey's words, I can now do this, thanks to Sergey, so I have evolved in my ability to post pictures:

but why is my monkey picture so small?:shock: