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I don't know about the angry stuff. I think that word needs some work to find the agreeable meaning between us, and it sounds like productive work to me, since we two may share the same meaning, and our meaning shared may not transfer well to anyone else.
A Mad Dog is angry, for example, and I don't think you mean that, and if I can start the process then I can say that I am angry, in the sense that I sometimes look in the mirror and see a very sad person who wasted life failing to do what must be done.
Your link to my discussion with bear, which includes the offered viewpoint about the laws of diminishing returns, is part of the book that bear has assembled. You picked out a particularly concise general outline of my thinking, as did bear.
I do not agree with the words you wrote about Marx, and the link to Stalin, there is no link, as far as I can tell, since Marx was an idea person, and his ideas were counterfeited, twisted, by Legal Criminals, Bankers, The Most Powerful Humans among us, and then those few powerful people created both Hitler and Stalin, FDR, all the Legal Crime Regimes, so as to destroy competition.
Destroy
Destroy what?
Competition.
It is the playing out of the phrase "killing the goose that lays the golden eggs".
It is Evil in thought and action, manifested in individual mutated brains, and like a cancer it spreads, taking infants at birth, destroying their goodness, their innocence, and grinding their lives up into a mutated man made hell on earth.
But despite that, there still exists smiles, laughter, honestly, productivity, and even love of the genuine nature.
So where is your head on this one thing, since I am now not sure.
Men are bad.
Men are good.
I get mixed messages.
I actually had a nervous breakdown.
To me there is peace of mind in knowing more than anyone else I meet on the subject of political economy. I have this chip now, on my shoulder, and I go around daring anyone to knock it off, and so far, no one even comes close.
I went through a desperate stage of confusion, like being stuck on rail road tracks in neutral, with a train horn blaring as the train accelerated at an accelerating rate toward my helplessness stuck in that vehicle.
Had I known of your condition, at that point, I don't know the time period, but at that point you may have been ahead of me, while I was heading to that point, stuck on the tracks, and we could have, perhaps, helped each other out of those jams.
We did not, and that is the past. Now we are here, so now what?
I have this chip, if you can knock it off, please do.
"Allison can tell of the time I tried to call her the day after the bar fight when I was crying so hard I had to call three or four times before i could get an actual word out of my mouth instead of sobs."
That time period puts me in my work almost all the time days, which were also my run for congress days, and those days included some of the worst days for Vicki and her depression. I don't know what a nervous break down is, exactly, not having ever had one, but I've seen Vicki managing, somehow, things that were called panic attacks.
And these things are not natural, these things are the results of road blocks willfully put in place between natural human beings who would, without the road blocks, be more helpful, more powerfully helpful, to one another.
Why did I have to work 70 hour weeks, hard labor, for years?
Why don't we as a family have a spread, our own town, a base of operations, as the idea is not novel, it is natural, in a human way, so what causes the divisions, the dividing, the separating, the diluting, the watering down of those powers that work in between human beings where one human being is helped by other human beings?
My curse is to be the one sticking 8 x 10 glossy photos of the torture and mass murder victims snuffed out, live on reality T.V., a snuff film for all the "tax payers", in everyone's faces whenever anyone pretends to get serious about our human condition.
That, I could say, is in the way of my vacation on Mars this summer for 6 months.
So, how do we, as in the human species, get from here, less good, to there, more good?
Choosing the lesser of two evils on command without question?
Am I a broken record?
Then some things happened, and since I was also pursuing a spiritual philosophy and practice i eventually lost the anger and the ego. I feel I can now help to do what I wanted to back in 1986. Also you are now involved. I sure wish I knew back then about that Lusitania book you read and how you felt about it.
We did not do this and that, but what we did do together is precious, so forward we go?
Anyway, I have some alternative, not necessarily repudiating, ideas, but ones that differ slightly from yours. I wrote a bunch down one night about 1 in the morning I should just type it out and fuck taking the time to revise it.
For a very long time I've been working World Wide Web Forums, and you can help me understand this from a viewpoint that is fresh to me, since my viewpoint is stuck to me like a monkey on my back, everywhere I go, I am there still, but this effort, this drive, I have, has been offered to the entire world for a long time now.
The entire world can challenge me at any time on political economy.
Do you know how often someone will be eaten up and spit out by the experts, in any venue, once the weak ones are daring to challenge those experts?
Why do I find no challengers?
The entire world is being asked, and I've tried places other than forums, places where the Web Page says "Ask the Experts", and I have even managed to get the ear of Howard Bloom for a time. I offered Howard Bloom my Joe's Law Political Economy Sentence.
He said something to the effect that that looks right.
Bloom has this idea that racial genetics are battling for supremacy, or some such ideas, that do not make sense to me, and to me, the same missing elements are missing in Bloom's thinking that are so often missing in most of the people I engage in discussion. Most people fail to accurately account for the Legal Money power, as if that POWER is of no consequence.
Not all people. Some people are similarly stuck in my spot, offering the challenge, and having no one reasonably take up the challenge, to improve the viewpoint offered.
To make the viewpoint more accurate at the end of the discussion compared to the beginning of the discussion on political economy.
So, what I am saying, in so many words, is to engage in discussion too, I mean, sure, offer the words you have so far, written in the past, get them down, get them to me, please, but consider the angle of discussion, in real time, as a tool worth sharpening.
I tell bear, and now I have this Russian named Sergey hooked up on e-mail, not yet finding his way to this forum, registration trouble of some sort, where the surface of a snow ball on an iceberg of challenging viewpoints, intending to move away from bad and move closer to good exists in real time, as never before.
That is the missing element, to me.
Person A becomes more powerful because of competitive improvement in direct contact with Person B, for better, without resort to crime.
A Congress of the type that creates The Declaration of Independence serves to illustrate the point.
The opposite is the Congress that creates The Constitution of The United States of America, making slavery legal, illustrates WHY the former has to be done in order to nullify, or render powerless, the later.
Failure is, in fact, the path to human extinction.
I worry for you Joe, because I have already learned that we can wind up with the wrong accomplices. Persons who twist our freeing ideas with their ego and use them to begin a new cycle of change that only ends up repeating.
Here is where you may bring your expertize in this area to good use, but we are not so different, in this area, as much of my experience has been a sound rejection from so many people who find no cause to associate with me, at all, because I do not fall for a whole lot of the many lies that infect so many people.
I joined the John Birch Society, and they rejected me, not me them, otherwise my efforts to contact them would have solidified instead of evaporating.
I joined the National Rifle Association, another example, and when I ran for Congress they would not connect to me, and I even went to one of their meetings to speak, while I was on the ballot, and none of them gave me a nod or a wink.
I joined many forums, run off by censure, deceit, rejection, including the Alex Jones Prison Planet Forum.
I've gone to Austrian Economics Conferences, and have been ignored, willfully ignored.
I guess you are probably referring to the Common Law angle of view, and how the wrong people in that group could be troublesome, but that misses the point, if that is the case.
The problem is not the Common Law people, the problem is the Legal Criminals who have stolen Free Market Law Power. I can explain in detail, for your welcome consideration, with, or without, ego.
I am not sure yet, and perhaps never will be as to what is the right solution to this whole debacle but I am now joined in your struggle. Or should I say, you are now joined in mine. Doesn't matter. It's good either way. We will agree on some things and differ on others but our earlier discussion has convinced me that your intent is pure love, kindness, honesty and compassion.
The Russian may help immensly, and I've already touched upon some of the solutions we face, including the Barter.
It boils down to the mediums of connection, whereby the productive people, who are honest, kind, loving, and compassionate, all things necessary for cooperation, division of labor, specialization, and making more power at the end of the day than the power available at the start of the day, whereby those mediums of exchange disconnect the connections created and maintained by Legal Criminals.
The Russian calls them parasites, but that is an English word, and the Russian is very keen on letting me know that much of the meaning intended is not transferable without the language, such as, for example, poetry.
I say Legal Criminals. The Russian offers "parasites", and we connect accurately, productively, in that way.
Disconnect the parasites, disconnect The Legal Criminals, and one way that works is Barter.
Not perfectly, but The Mother of Invention, being necessity, is the point, the point is to reinforce the point that some people are not honest, and connecting to them is a net loss, because that is why they are not honest, they intend to take from those who they target, and then they connect to those they target, and then they take from those they target, so don't let them.
The Russian writes:
>>> I know people, relatives, who have turned to Barter as a way of connecting the productive people and avoiding the connections to the parasites. I call the parasites Legal Criminals. <<<
Tell me about it. When 90's in general and 1998 in particular were ravaging my country Barter took very big proportions. Along the lines of "X train cars of fish for Y train cars of metal sheets". And I'm not even slightly joking.
We here in this Country, under the thumb of The FUND, or you can all The FUND, anything you want, but know that there are a few people running it, and know that it is denominated in Federal Reserve Notes, or dollars, and follow those notes to the source of those notes, and you will find the people ordering more of those notes, or less of those notes, and all that goes with those orders, here in this country we are heading fast to where Russia has already been - under the same thumb.
They, in Russia, were Thumbed down, now they are picking themselves back up, with less connection to The FUND.
Disconnecting and connecting is a POWER.
Know this, please.
When the few at the FUND want, or in their view they need, to disconnect more from us, and connect more to China, then they do that, and that is what they are doing now.
China will be the new big boy on the block, call them Eastasia, or call them anything that works, but they will be made to win World War III, and the World Reserve Currency POWER will then be collecting War Debts from all the targets, and that POWER will then flow to that new Central Location.
It is the same thing, is is The FUND, it is the few most powerful human beings and their power is purchased with crime made legal, deception, threats, and violence.
When they disconnect from the American targets, they destroy their own connecting medium, which is now The Dollar, or The Federal Reserve Note, or whatever products are invented by, produced by, and maintained by The Federal Reserve Group of Legal Criminals, which include people working at The Treasury, Goldman Sachs, CBS, NBC, The FBI, the NSA, Homeland Security, whatever.
They destroy "our" currency on purpose, so as to destroy the productive power of the targets that have grown too powerful during their time as Big Boy on the Block.
We, or "we the people" (targets), are being raided as in "corporate raiding", as "our" (the targets) currency is being destroyed.
So, how simple can the fix get, we move to Barter before we are forced to move to Barter, or better yet, we run a State by State, City by City, competition, to find the best money money can buy, which means, in a word, accurate, money.
Barter works, when it works, as designed, as intended, when no other, better, more accurate, TOOL works to reach the goal.
So what is the goal?
I am not so sure about Jack's intent. That boy worries me. (LOL as they say)
If Jack confesses, by action, that his intent is to harm people, then he volunteers to be in the "do not connect" category. So far as I know, Jack is on my "connect to" list.
There are three obvious, measurable, types of Connections as such:
1. Power transfers criminally (from a victim to a criminal)
2. Power transfers equitably (each gaining as much as giving)
3. Power transfers charitably (from giver to receiver agreeably, without deceit, threats, or violence)
Equity, not equality, is the Power Struggle winning game plan, because the day starts out with scarce power and the day ends with an accurately measurable increase in the power supply.
Charity can bring those not up to speed up to speed.
Crime is the road to human extinction.