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I found a report written by someone whereby the subject has to do with exponential economic growth rates. I find this subject very interesting because of the consequences associated with failing to know better.
Failing to know better than to believe in a lie is inevitably very destructive to whomever is failing to know better.
An example:
Person A in charge of Group A starts World War III, failing to know better, and the result is World War III and human extinction.
Suppose that the above does happen, and suppose it is then known by the last of the people who are slowly dying, as the human species dies a miserable death, and looking back, during those days when the human experiment breaths it's last breaths, if only we could have known better, we would not have allowed that to happen the way it did happen, too bad for us.
In that context I offer one link first, then three more links to have before us as we work on these competitive viewpoints.
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=215521.0
That first link includes an offering on exponential growth rates, and I can sum up the significant points.
A. The number of people stupefied by the lies can grow exponentially.
B. The number of people knowing better can grow exponentially.
C. The number of power sources can be used to make the number of power sources grow exponentially, and that can be exemplified with Solar Panels.
D. The number of people stupefied by lies can grow exponentially while the number of people knowing better die off exponentially while the number of people reach a number that is no longer able to support life on earth as a result of both stupidity and scarce power sources.
Of those 4 scenarios above I like B since B offers the Human Species the best odds of surviving past the life span of this Solar System, which can be a very long time, many centuries into the foreseeable human future. Let me put that in context, please, for your careful judgement.
A. The length of time that human beings exist if human beings cannot travel to another Solar System.
B. The length of time that human begins exist past the life span of this Solar System because human begins gain the power to travel to other Solar Systems.
The above laundry list of two time frames are significant because one, or A, is very small, finite, compared to the later, or B, which is incalculable at this time. Some of us, some of our species may, report facts that prove that our species will not, ever, reach out to other Solar Systems. I won't do that, since my power to see into the future is very limited, and I know better than to claim facts about things that I cannot know.
Moving onto the next link, please, consider reading it, and I'm going to take out one quote, because one quote concerns me much more than all the other messages in this link:
http://gigaom.com/cleantech/an-exercise-in-galactic-scale-energy/
Growth is then the basis for interest rates, loans and the finance industry.
For your consideration:
Legal crime is the basis for interest rates, loans, and the finance industry.
To claim otherwise is to be stupefied like so many of the current examples of human beings roaming the planet earth. Were it not for the stupefied people sending their hard earned power to the few people who make everyone suffer, through "interest", "loans", and "the finance industry", plus involuntary taxes that are not as covert, if not for them, what would the subject of "growth" be, if not for that steady misuse of power?
Please compare:
1A.
Growth is then the basis for interest rates, loans and the finance industry.
2B.
Legal crime is the basis for interest rates, loans, and the finance industry.
2A.
War is good for the economy.
2B.
Legal Crime (aggressive wars for profit) transfers power from the stupefied people to the Legal Criminals faster than any other covert tax.
See, please see, how language can work against us, and language can work for us, as we either continue to provide the means by which we suffer or we employ a better idea, since we know better.
The link that reported the lie that "growth is then the basis for interest rates..." etc. also reports an angle of view concerning the relationship between the number of human beings and the requirements of power needed to sustain human life as the number of human beings increases.
The story is an old one; in modern times the story changed a little, but it is essentially the same old story.
Fear.
Fear so as to be weak from that fear.
Fear to a point of weakness by which the victims of fear will transfer the power they need to defend themselves to people who will make the fearful victims suffer.
A.
Overpopulation
B.
Global Warming
C.
Terrorism
D.
Savages
E.
Evil Dictators
The story is always told in such a way as to accomplish the goal intended to be accomplished by the story.
Fear
Obey
There is no choice.
There is no other way.
I'm here to help. You may prefer to be helped by those who make you suffer. Send them more of the power you need to defend yourself, to reproduce, and to keep the human species alive another day, or week, or year, or century. Sign onto the lies. Read from the scripted story line that is offered to you in so many forms.
You can think your way out of this paper bag, and perhaps all you need to get on that path is someone offering you a badge, a license, and the authority to do so, and I'm going to help you find that authority. Get up, go to the mirror, look in the mirror, and see your boss. Ask your boss in the mirror if you can go ahead and think your own way out of this paper bag where we are being told that there is no other choice but the choices dictated to us by these many stupefied victims.
Let me know if you can see a way out of this paper bag; while I offer my version.
Another link:
http://www.susps.org/overview/birthrates.html
U.S. fertility first dropped to less than replacement level fertility in 1972, and by 2002 had dropped to a record low. (Replacement level fertility is 2.1 children per woman because of infant mortality - see terms). During most of the 1970s and 1980s women gave birth to fewer than 2 children on average, a rate insufficient to replace the population. Because of population momentum, U.S. population would have increased to 255 million by 2020 and then gradually declined.
My wife and I reproduced, she reproduced, being the woman, and now there is one to replace me, and one to replace my wife. That is a personal census offered as a real life measure of things, not just numbers.
If it is true that there is such a thing as overpopulation, even while replacement levels of reproduction is not being met, then there can be ways of measuring exactly what is meant by the term "overpopulation".
Use your own brain, please. What does the term mean? What does it mean to you when you hear the word "overpopulation"?
Is it possible that the term "overpopulation" is just another story offered to the victims by the Legal Criminals so as to trick the victims into being fearful enough to then be weak, and to then volunteer to be even weaker, as the victims are ordered to send even more power to the Legal Criminals?
I've read a few books with titles like: "You are being lied to."
I didn't have to read such a book to know that fact. What lies are the most important lies?
A.
Lies that result in the extinction of the human species.
B.
Lies that result in a momentary embarrassment for the victims of the lie, the one who was led to believe that the lie was true, when the lie is demonstrably false.
When the communication you read leads you to believe that there is something to fear, and therefore there is a need to send someone more money, then it may be a good idea to question the validity of that communication. When the communication speaks about overpopulation while the same communication offers information that claims that the birth rate is below a sustainable level, then you have before you a demonstrable contradiction.
What is overpopulation?
I can offer an explanation.
When the Legal Criminals reach a point where their numbers are too many, and their victims numbers are too few, take a guess as to the methods used by the Legal Criminals to fix that problem?
How about an illustration?
You are on a boat in open water like the historical example provided by a book titled Men against the Sea, where the actual event involved a Ship Captain named William Bligh whose ship was seized by some of the crew and his group of loyal followers were cast into open water in a row boat.
Now suppose that there is in that boat 2 separate groups, not one, not one group where each member of the group cooperates with each other so as to survive under horrible circumstances. Suppose, instead of harmonious co-existence, there are two groups fighting each other, in that one boat, in open water.
One group takes all the power while the other group is forced to work to death, and suppose that there are a total of 10 people in the boat, and suppose that half of the number of people in the boat are dictators and the other half are subjects, or half are slave masters, and the other half are slaves, or half are Legal Criminals (because they elected themselves to be legal authorities), and the other half are stupefied believers in the lie of Legal Crime.
10 total people
1 boat
Open water in the middle of a huge ocean far from any land.
5 people take everything
5 people work to death so as to give everything to the 5 people who take everything (because they are stupefied)
Time goes by in this illustration and suppose one of the stupefied people die from too much work and not enough, or no, food, or water, and suppose one of the elite dies too, from lack of exercise and gout, and now there are 8 total, and the ratio is still 1 to 1.
Suppose, over night, two more of the hard working stupefied tax payers croak, and the remaining 4 elite tax collectors wake up to find only 2 workers left in the boat, and both of them are working very hard to keep the boat afloat, and one is preparing a fish caught in the night, and it is a small fish, and the small fish will only feed one person well, only enough to make one person full of good food.
There you have, now, an illustration of the problem.
Place yourself in the shoes of each of those remaining 6 people and figure it out for yourself.
The liars running the show will have to invent really, really, really, good lies to remain elite, full of good food, and very happy, at the expense of their stupefied victims, including some of their fellow elitists who may be a little more gullible than the other fellow elitists.
How does that make sense?
Please return to this:
Growth is then the basis for interest rates, loans and the finance industry.
Really?
Consider reading something called "The Parasite City" written by a person who walked the earth during a very pivotal time period in human history during the time when ideas like voluntary socialism was in direct competition with voluntary capitalism, before both socialism and capitalism became lies covering up Legal Crimes.
Here is that link (look for The Parasite City if you can't afford to read the whole work):
http://www.the-portal.org/mutual_banking.htm#4
Ask yourself why, please, why, why, why, are people stuck on using The Dollar as currency, as if there is no other, better, option?
In context, with the scientific studies on "energy" consumption rates, I offer a closing statement.
When power is used to make more power then power supplies will grow at an exponential rate; and power can be stored moving sea water onto mountain tops. If the Egyptians can make pyramids, why can't we make it to another Solar System before our species ends?