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Oh how I crave for a blank slate.
Freeski,
Why not buy one?
I can offer a few comments other than the quick sound bite reply. One comment is to support your point with a study, an invention, and an experiment along the lines of your point, and the experiment was a success, and there are people today still using the idea by some measure.
The invention became known as Equitable Commerce and the inventor recorded the work that, again, still manages to work in some places.
http://tmh.floonet.net/pdf/jwarren.pdf
If you have not yet inherited a fortune, and if you are not yet in command of enough things of value stored up in places where you can readily use that stored power, and if you are fully capable of producing much more out of much less, but you don't yet have legal monetary credit, and you don't even want to borrow things to get started since the lenders charge too much for borrowing, or no one is yet loaning you things to get started at any price, then the invention is such that the inventor becomes his own source of good faith and credit, and if the inventor can't make ends meet, all the costs of failure are charged to the person who fails, in a reasonable way, leaving no room for ambiguity, or misguided defense against injury which turns out to be punishment for the sake of punishment.
In other words: anyone can print their own money, sell it, and that invention is as good, or as bad, as the person doing the printing, in keeping a promise to pay the holder of the money.
Example:
Someone moves into town, broke, penniless, and instead of begging on the corner the person begins to sell his own good faith and credit, by promising to pay people in the future for things purchased today, such as wood, and glue, and a hammer, and nails, as the inventor of competitive money sells coupons that are redeemable in chairs, or tables and chairs, and later in book shelves, and dressers, bed frames, and other things of value.
Someone else moves into town selling promises to pay in the future for things purchased today as the person doing the promising, selling his good faith and credit, buys seeds, and well drilling, a well pump, shovels, and other things needed for farming, and the promise to pay is worth an amount of food.
Someone else moves into town, someone who needs a place to stay, not wanting to beg, and willing to provide medical services, having no money, since money was taken out of circulation by the law power, the doctor prints up promises to pay treatments, based upon some finite measure of cost to the doctor. One hour of treatment, or a promise to stitch 10 stitches.
Someone else moves into town less skilled but certainly capable of supplying whatever the people in the town need since everyone in the town, so far, still needs something, or wants something, since everyone isn't quite yet absolutely satisfied to a point of needing, or wanting, nothing more, ever.
Where does someone go to find out what other people may want, so as to find out what someone can do, so as to be gainfully employed?
For lack of accurate forms of currency, an individual is powerless in the work that is necessary to communicate productively with other people, and the more people that are connected to each other accurately, the less time and energy is wasted as people work toward producing things no one wants.
Call all the forms of accurate currency by one word, call it money.
Then explain to me why there is only one legal money.
I think that the reason why there is only one legal money is as obvious as the reason why a person does not stick their hand in a fire, or stare at the sun.
There is only one legal money because that is how honest productive people are made to provide the means by which we suffer.
There is only one legal money because that is how criminals connect to victims so as to transfer the power produced by the victims as that power flows to the criminals.
A visual illustration helps convey the point:
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
Those are my comments that intend to agree with your point.
It really is that simple but we have developed this supposed "civil society" and brainwashed the people to believe it's a good thing, that "someone" needs to organize it... rather than just letting it be and seeing what happens. Who says our lives should be structured?
I do not agree with that viewpoint.
Voluntary structures can be understood as forms of life.
A human body for example.
Cells within the human body are structured within the human body. The structure is such that all the cells function harmoniously so long as the human body lives.
Involuntary structures can be understood as structures that destroy life.
Cancer is a structure, for example, that destroys a human body.
Each cancer cell is structured to reproduce another cancer cell, feeding from the living cells, and reaching a point where the cancer cells kill the living being, and its own source of power.
Which structures work to sustain life?
Which structures work to destroy life?
Why confuse the structures that work to sustain life with the structures that destroy life?
When structures that work to sustain life are confused with structures that destroy life there are two obvious consequences that can result from that confusion.
A.
Structures that work to sustain life can be misunderstood as they are confused with structures that work to destroy life, and the confusion may then weaken the power of those structures that work to sustain life.
B.
Structures that work to destroy life can be misunderstood as they are confused with structures that work to sustain life, and the confusion may then strengthen the power of those structures that work to destroy life.
Accurate perception can be understood as structure that can empower someone with the power to sustain life.
That same power of accurate perception can be used by a cancerous type of person as a cancerous type of person uses that power to accurately target potential victims, to attack a potential victim, and consume a potential victim, even to a point where the victim is destroyed, and therefore the source of power flowing to the cancerous type of person is gone.
Inaccurate perception can be understood as a structure that can weaken someone infected by that condition of inaccurate perception especially when that type of structure is produced by someone who knows better, as the deceptive structure is invented, produced, and forced upon the targeted victims, causing inaccurate perception upon the targeted, exploited, people within that involuntary structure that has been made involuntary by that use of deceit.
So, that leads back to my comment that does not agree with that point, and the question of why would anyone confuse a voluntary structure with an involuntary structure, or why would anyone confuse a life sustaining structure with a life destroying structure, as if all structures are guilty of doing bad things because of the things done by the bad ones?
Or
If some money, such as Legal Monopoly Extortion and Fraud Money, are bad, are all forms of money bad, even the accurate, powerful, and low cost, productive, and non-criminal, non-deceptive, non-threatening, and non-violent money forms?
Why throw out the baby with the bath water?
And
If some structures, such as involuntary associations, are bad, on purpose, for profit, as those involuntary structures are designed to make the victims provide the means by which they suffer, are all structures bad, including voluntary structures such as reproductive mating (the opposite of rape), families, companies, cities, counties, even States, and even Democratic Federated Republics, so long as they are, in fact, structured as voluntary associations?
Why throw out the baby with the bath water?
And
Why torture and murder the babies, and nurture the bath water instead?
Or
Isn't it time for good people to unite and work together to use the power we have to make life quality higher, and make the cost of life lower, instead of sending all the surplus power we can ever make to people who then use that power to make us suffer?
Or
How can the cart pull the horse? We can't overpower our oppressors until we gain the power to do so, and that can't happen while all our surplus power flows to the people who oppress us.
Or
Meet the enemy, it is US.