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09-06-2011
Liberty Day 2012 can be:
07-04-2012
rollins,
Security of person and property.
The bottom line message from Equitable Commerce is, from my reading, that the power to produce is commanded by each individual, and when that happens the individual has the power to stop the flow of power to the people who threaten person and property.
That is the basic message, and Josiah Warren wasn't happy with just saying so, he tested the idea, with a specific step by step process, and his experiments worked, and remnants of his experiment still exist today. The fact that the idea has not gained enough currency to cause a world wide shift of power is explainable in an accurate manner. Much can be known about what happened since the publication of Equitable Commerce, including the thing known as The Civil War.
In Equitable Commerce the subject of expedience is covered, as to how to get from here to the goal, and the information offered addresses the grey area between absolute voluntary association, which is the goal, and what are involuntary associations.
How can a lot of people who hold themselves together within an involuntary association cooperate to reach the goal of moving toward voluntary associations?
The obvious first step is to get off the path toward greater enforcement of involuntary associations and begin thinking and acting in ways that actually do work, expediently, in the direction of voluntary associations.
Example:
A person recognizes a problem and then they have the bright idea to employ the cause of the problem so as to supposedly fix the problem
That has to be known to be a false solution to the actual problem, if the idea is to stop doing that, and if the idea is to perpetuate that, than that bright idea works great.
That is a first step.
Choose:
1.
Involuntary association
2.
Voluntary association
There are other options, but those options are not associations, they are options that work for one person who remains disconnected from every other person, if there will be a connection the connection will be 1 or 2.
The next step is to see the goal, which is to see the need to reach something that has nothing to do with the false solution, where the false solution is the actual problem, and to someone who has not arrived past the first step this type of thinking is out of that box, completely foreign to someone who has not taken the first step. Scary stuff.
Once out of the box, the next step can be seen from a general, or principled, or rough, or wide angle, or macro, or objective, unspecific, viewpoint, and then the viewpoint can move to specifics.
Control power, individually, so as to make more power out of less power.
That is my version of what Equitable Commerce teaches, and that is the basic, base, foundation, or general viewpoint.
When Josiah Warren goes right into specifics he addresses the problems association with a scarcity of power controlled by the individual, and using the scarce power available to make more power, to make power abundant, and he invents a competitive method of going step by step in that direction, he invents a labor note. and the labor note is nothing more, and nothing less than, a promise to transfer something of value to the person who gains control over a labor note that is produced by the person who has scarce power, but the person who has a means by which his scarce power can be used to make more power, so the note, the promise to pay, is valuable, it has the power to purchase, and it's value is determined by the producer of the note, who produces, or earns, good faith and credit, earns trust, earns by way of individual responsibility, the power to purchase, and detractors, dis-creditors, and people who argue, may claim that the value is determined by the buyer, which is an argument that leads nowhere, on purpose.
If the person who produces the promise to pay cannot convince the potential owner of the promise that the value of the promise is as the producer says, then the producer fails to produce the value of it, not the potential owner. How many potential owners are there? If one does not measure the value of the promise to pay, will someone else? These vital questions have to do with something called the cost principle, and these vital questions have nothing to do with the Straw Man argument called: The Labor Theory of Value.
It is only as complicated as needed, and it can be as simple as someone who knows how to make high quality, and low cost chairs, and this person prints up a promise to pay the holder of the promise to pay, to pay that person one chair, once the promise to pay returns back to the chair maker, and this is simple advertising, or simple marketing, and it is not brain surgery, and it is not "The labor theory of value", it is simple stuff.
You have a capacity to produce valuable things, you don't have the start up capital, you invent your own start up capital, and if you want you can pay yourself interest for borrowing from yourself, the people who you find who will accept your promises to pay either accept the value you place on your chair, or your hair cut, or your bushel of corn, or your bottle of beer, or your car, new or used, and that promise to pay will either compete, as currency, or it won't, once a Nation wide, or even World Wide, belief in a single legal currency is no longer such a powerfully false belief.
The cart won't pull the horse, and people won't start competing so long as they cherish the belief that competition is against the law.
When monopoly is the problem, monopoly wont' fix the problem.
When monopoly is the problem, competition ends the problem peacefully. That is me using English to convey an accurate message. English can be used to convey a false message too.
The chair maker has to go to the hardware store and get wood, so he pays in chair dollars, or labor dollars, or whatever promise to pay can work, expediently, in that situation, invented by that person, so that individual person can make ends meet, be productive, be honest, and be a cog in the wheel, and it is all done without a police force.
The question fielded by rollins involves what can be done when bad people do bad things, if I read the question right.
The idea is to stop sending money to bad people, as a solution to the problem of there being bad people, getting away with doing bad things.
The way out is to have this Equitable Commerce invention working so as to be in a position to not be forced to pay the insurance money, the offer that can't be refused, the lesser of two evils. The idea is the opposite of that idea, instead of providing the means by which we suffer, the idea is to use the power available to produce the power needed, in the first place, to then have enough power to turn down the option that isn't an option, the blind obedience non-option, the thing I call legal crime.
Again the cart cannot pull the horse.
From a position of power, having invented, produced, and maintained our own currency, whatever form those competitive examples may be, and it will be competitive, and therefore it will be higher, and higher, in quality, over time, and it will be lower, and lower in cost, over time, because that is what the force of competition does, and from that position of power, we can then address the bad people, we stopped rewarding them for being bad, a good first step, and now we can figure out how to deal with them, and that question can be answered, concerning threats to person and property.
In the experiments done by Josiah Warren, with Equitable Commerce, the common criminal threats were lowered much in the same way that armed honest productive people, armed with guns, tend to lower the incidence of common crimes, like robbery. When each person has the power to make their own money, and make or break their own business based upon their own good faith and credit, they are armed in that way, and they are secure in person and property against fraud, more so than a gun arms someone against the other common crimes, such as robbery.
Those are parts of the general, principled, look.
The specifics, relative to today, are handled along these lines of principle too. To arm the honest productive people with the power they need to prosper, and defend themselves against fraud, which is to get out of their way, that is how to arm them, stop stealing from them, they will arm themselves. Stop enforcing a National level money monopoly, that is very high on the list of things to do, somewhere lower than working to get the idea to gain currency, so that more people stop using the false idea, the false idea is the idea that the cause of the problem can be employed to solve the problem
Once the people who finance their own security of person and property regain control of their finances, they then can regain control over what is purchased so as to secure their own person and property, rather than providing the means by which they suffer, not before. Do I repeat the same thing, in other words, too much?
How about a return to Trial buy Jury as it was originally designed, which can move incrementally, from the bottom up and the top down? So long as so many people are cherishing this false belief in a top down social structure, rather than a bottom up social structure, so long as that remains a power to deal with, so long will there be a need to work from the top down, unfortunately. Stop sending your power to the top, if you can't get the top to return to Trial by Jury, stop convicting tax evaders, if you happen to be on a jury that tries someone accused of evading an involuntary tax, whereby the accused tries desperately not to send his scarce power to those who take his person and property.
That is one avenue, which cannot occur while we provide the means by which we suffer, at the present rate of transfer, and as we do so on command, as if there were no other option.
How about a return to a Democratic Federated Republican form of government, working from bottom up and top down, whereby the power having been retained by the people is used from the bottom to spend their regained control over their own security of person and property is reinvested and expended more locally, and less Nationally, if we so decide to do so, once we are more powerful at the bottom. At the top, looking down, there is a need for the Federal (formerly National) governors to petition, please, asking the State Governors, this is the Federal government asking nicely, please let me know exactly what the separate and sovereign States wish, or failing to ask and then failing to provide, ends the connection between Federal and State governors, that cash flow end, since The Federal System no longer taxes The People directly, and the Federal employees, those who are hired to run the Federal government, hired by the State governors, are taxed with the need to provide what the State governors demand, and pay for, what the State governors want, and not visa versa.
If the States want, unanimous, more aggressive wars for profit hidden behind any false front that works, then our goose is still as cooked as it is now, but that unanimity only works on the State Governors, not The People directly, in a working Federation, and if The People, and their hired State employees don't buy into the ongoing, or next, aggressive war for profit, then that revenue stream dries up, as that State, with all those people in it, head for greener pastures, and they opt out of the voluntary Union, and then: which of The People in the remaining belligerent states are going to walk to the higher quality, and lower cost State; whereby the tax burden no longer includes State governors lying to The People so as to keep the power flowing to the liars at the Federal level, so as to perpetuate very costly aggressive wars for profit that only manage to bring profits to about 2% of the population, while everyone else provides the means by which all of us suffer?
The key, which unlocks the door, remains to be a massive awakening, and then once awake the power is no longer spent in providing the means by which we all suffer, and then there are many competitive ways to move closer to liberty, once on that path, which is not, by definition, being on the other path heading toward absolute despotism.
Talk, talk, talk, what about action?
Don't vote. If you must vote, vote for Ron Paul, and write that vote in, don't rely upon the computerized system of voter fraud.
If Ron Paul isn't crowed head contender of the fascist party, then write him in anyway, during the election, don't fall for the often repeated lie about the lesser of two evils, and the wasted vote scam.
Invent your own currency, and produce it, and maintain it, having that in your back pocket fixes everything sooner or later, and this, me doing this, to me, is like me being a passenger on the Titanic, and I know what I'm going to do, I'm going to get off the ship at the right time and I'm going to swim to the life boats that will be nearly empty, because this has happened before, and I have read the script, and I'm telling people to go screaming in unison to the Ship Captain, and tell him to slow down and change course, since I'm doing that, and I am being singled out as conspiracy theorist, and my warnings, alone, reach no one, but meanwhile, consider, having the back up plan up and running. There is a fail safe, which can still fail, if you can't swim, the water is cold, and if you know someone who can't swim too, try getting them on a life boat sooner, save one person, even if you die, or crush one person under your foot to get a spot on the life boat, see how well that works for you over time.
If the question asks how I will handle security of person and property if elected to a powerful office, and if I become that benevolent dictator, then I start at the root of the problem and I invent, and I produce, and I maintain a competitive legal currency, because I have the power to do so, once becoming the dictator in chief, and you can call that The President, if that makes you feel better than calling it what it is.
My invented, and to be produced, solution to the security of person and property, is two specific legal financial products that I call Product 1 and Product 2, and those inventions, once produced, would be available to anyone who wants one, so long as there are specific things done to arrange for the legal transfer of such power.
A person is credited with the credit to receive Product 1 and Product 2 based upon a known measure of their own honor and good faith, and having that earned, they earn a no interest home and business mortgage loan, and they can then get out from under the current dollar denominated extortion racket with that one product alone, and they pay themselves back, because they earned that credit.
That is product 1 in a nutshell.
The skeptics may then ask: who pays for all the work required in processing those Product 1 loans?
The answer is Product 2.
Product 2 is limited at 1 percent interest charged to the borrowers, who borrow from their own well earned good faith and credit, so as to buy specific things, things that are currently measured to be power producers, whereby the purchasing power borrowed is less than the purchasing power produced as a direct result of purchasing the thing purchased, such as, for example, a solar panel.
A solar panel will produce more than double the cost of the solar panel in any measure you wish to calculate, and the calculation is important, so it must be accurate, do the math, see what you come up with, and challenge my word, challenge my supposed good faith and credit.
A Federal, or State, or County, or City, or even a family, or even an individual, license can be lawfully awarded to any bidder bidding on gaining that legal power to begin profiting from this competitive legal money processing business, and as such each license holder, owner, stands to gain 1% interest for each loan amount loaned out and processed for Product 2 loans, to cover all the costs of processing both Product 1 and Product 2.
If that does not answer the question asked, note how the effort continues to be general rather than diving too deep into specifics, to the point of explaining every minute detail contained within a usable answer, which I am capable of doing, if the demand exists, but why should I waste anyone's time?