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Honest Productive Americans,
That is a link to a cartoon called The American Dream. It is false. It is written in victim's language. It does not express a principled viewpoint, as far as I have seen so far, and I have yet to get past the false claim that Debt = Money.
Debt is a concept, alone, one thing. What is debt, all by itself?
Know what you are talking about before you answer definitively. I can offer my definitive answer while you get your answer all lined up and ready for competitive challenge.
Debt is a synonym for crime.
Debt is a one way transfer of power from the person who is owned to the person who owns the person who is owned.
That is the concept of debt, when debt is seen as one thing, all alone, just Debt, only Debt, without any other thing sharing, or confusing, the concept of Debt.
If you add the concept of Credit to the concept of Debt, you have confusion, why would you confuse one thing with two things?
Confusing one thing that isn't confusing with another thing that makes the one thing that isn't confusing into something that is now confusing, has the added consequence of making the second thing confused too.
What is Credit?
Get your answer all lined up definitively before offering your answer up for competitive challenge.
Do you have a single, unconfused, rational, reasonable, understandable, conceptualized, definition for Debt?
Do you have a single, unconfused, rational, reasonable, understandable, conceptualized, definition for Credit?
Is one concept part of the other concept, and if so, why do you need two words, or what is the one word that accurately conveys exactly what Debt and Credit form when they are combined?
Debt = Crime
That is a competitive understanding of the concept of Debt, as Debt is accurately discriminated from the opposite concept, which is Credit, and I do not combine Debt with Credit, unless I have to employ victim's language in the work required to speak to victims, in their own distorted, confused, and duplicitous language.
Credit is the process of earning transfers of power to a credit worthy individual because a credit worthy individual has proven to be innocent of crime, someone who produces more than that someone consumes, someone who does not resort to deceit, as a means of gaining power from targeted innocent victims, someone who does not resort to threats of violence as a means of gaining power from targeted innocent victims, and someone who does not resort to injury causing violence upon targeted innocent victims as a means of survival.
Credit = Liberty
Debt = Crime
Why would anyone, ever, desire to confuse Crime with Liberty?
I can offer an answer:
A criminal, especially a Legal Criminal, can perpetuate crime if the innocent victims are led to believe that Liberty is the same thing as Crime, and to cause the targeted innocent victims to believe that lie, Legal Criminals produce false propaganda that expresses that lie, in various forms, repeated enough times, over time, to alter the actual language used by the innocent victims, to a point whereby the innocent victims are rendered weak, impotent, and powerless within their duplicity, having lost the capacity to accurately discriminated between simple opposites such as Good and Bad, Right and Wrong, Productive and Destructive, Lies and Truth, Debt and Credit, Crime and Liberty.
If you want to employ your power to know better, then answer the question yourself, and if your answer is of higher quality, and lower cost, please consider offering that challenge right here, and right now.
Why would anyone, ever, desire to confuse Debt with Credit?
How about simple physical measures of Debt compared to simple physical measures of Credit?
How much of anything flows from the person who owes something to the person who is owed something when such transfers involve only the concept of Debt, without any combination of the concept of Debt with the concept of Credit?
How much of anything flows between anyone and anyone else when dealing with the concept of Credit, without any combination of the concept of Credit with the concept of Debt?
How much of anything flows between the debtor and the creditor, when the concept of Debt is confused with the concept of Credit?
Harkening back to the video where a line of people with money are depositing bags of money in the bank and a second line of people are shown in the video whereby the second line of people are given money, as a visual illustration offered to the viewer of that propaganda, one line deposits, another line withdraws. Be sure, please, that I do know that my words are forms of propaganda, and if you have no power to accurately discriminate the difference between false propaganda, which is false on purpose, false by design, and honest propaganda, which is true by design, then you are powerless in the extreme.
Ask, please, as to how those people who are in the line with bags of money, depositing money in the bank, ask how they got their bags of money, ask that question, and then see the relevance of my laundry list of questions:
1.
Why would anyone, ever, desire to confuse Debt with Credit?
Competitive answers:
A.
To weaken the victims so as to perpetuate crime.
B.
To go with the flow, to do as told, to fit in, to socialize, to be one of the crowd, to follow the herd, to avoid standing out, to obey unconditionally, to be fashionable, to be like everyone else in that line, on that road.
2.
How about simple physical measures of Debt compared to simple physical measures of Credit?
Competitive answers:
A.
Money flows one way in debt, inequitably, measurably, and money flows two ways in credit, equitably.
B.
Power is lost by the producer of power in debt, and power is retained by the producer of power in credit.
3.
How much of anything flows from the person who owes something to the person who is owed something when such transfers involve only the concept of Debt, without any combination of the concept of Debt with the concept of Credit?
Competitive answers:
A.
Money flows from the person who owes (the person who is owned) to the person who is owed, who is the person who own the person who is owned.
B.
Power flows from the person who creates power to the person who receives that power; in a moral sense: power flows from the slave to the master, or in a legal sense: power flows from the victim to the criminal, or from a Legal Crime, duplicitous, employment of terms: power flows from the debtor to the creditor (while there is no employment of a concept of credit in this case, rather the concept of credit is a false front for the enforcement of abject slavery)
4.
How much of anything will flow between anyone and anyone else, when dealing with the concept of Credit and without any combination of the concept of Credit with the concept of Debt?
Competitive answer:
A.
Power flows from a creditor or creditors to a person who earns credit and then power flows back to the creditor or creditors from the person who earns credit, and the flow is equitable, and the producer of power retains the power the producer produces.
5.
How much of anything flows between the debtor and the creditor, when the concept of Debt is confused with the concept of Credit?
Competitive answer:
An idea can be shared, by the person who earns credit, and by the person, or persons, who realize that the person does earn credit, that the time period in between the point at which the power flows to the person who earns credit, and the time period when that power flows back to the persons who sent that power, as a time when the person who earns credit is "in debt". Why?
Why is the person who earns credit considered to be "in debt"?
You tell me.
A. Person earns credit.
B. Person receives credit.
C. Person pays back all the power received.
Where is there any time when the person who earns credit is a person who is in debt? Why add the concept of debt at all?
I'm going to watch more of The American Dream, and if something appears to be worth challenging, I will do so, here, soon.
I got to the part where the video exposes another duplicitous butchering of accurate language, and again one thing is one thing, and another thing is another thing, and when those two things are confused, what happens, and why would anyone, ever, want to confuse two things, as if two things are not two things, as if two things are one thing?
1. Public (as in the Federal Reserve System of Extortion is a public entity, or legal fiction)
2. Private (as in the Federal Reserve System of Extortion is a private thing)
In order to be clear on why this is now a concern worthy of careful discrimination, between false (on purpose) propaganda, and honest true propaganda (or news), I will try to quote the actual words used in The American Dream:
Average Joe:
"Where does The Federal Reserve get their money?"
Later:
Average Joe:
"How come the government isn't allowed inside it's own building?"
Voice of Authority:
"Government? The Fed is a private bank, owned by private stockholders. Do not let the name Federal fool you; this place is about as Federal as Federal Express."
What is meant by the word private, in context? You have to stop thinking in terms of being a victim. You have to stop censoring your own power of moral conscience, and you have to adapt, and invent, your own definitions for specific things that you apply your power of thinking upon, in the work of understanding specific things, and you can no longer just settle for answers given to you, where you merely parrot the answer given to you.
What is meant by the word private?
What is meant by the word private, in context?
1.
What is meant by the word private?
Competitive answer:
The word private is a concept by which a person is known, and measurably known, to be disconnected from the Legal Criminals, and is therefore not subject to involuntary injury caused by Legal Criminals, resulting from that undesirable connection to Legal Criminals, and such a person, not connected to Legal Criminals, is a person who is not subjected to injuries by Legal Criminals, and is therefore a private person, or a free man, or a free woman, free to act without being connected to Legal Criminals in any way, and as such the free, private, person is free to expend privately earned power in defense against criminals if that private person decides to spend power in that manner, even if the private person does so by voluntarily sending power to a central location, such as, for example, an insurance fund, such as an insurance fund that insures against injury by Legal Criminals, for an example of a private person acting privately with other private people, agreeably, voluntarily, for mutual interest, for mutual protection, and for mutual support.
1.
What is meant by the word private, in context?
Competitive answer:
In context, the word private is used as a Legal Crime designation, whereupon the victims are designated as private people, and the Legal Criminals are exceptional, and the Legal Criminals exempt themselves from the victim group, the Legal Criminals employ the term private as a means of discovering who is to be targeted for exploitation, and therefore the word private can be synonymous with the word Tax Payer, or Slave, or Victim, so long as the word accurately discriminates between those who are exploited from those who exploit. The group of people who exploit are called the public.
Private = victim (those who are involuntarily associated with the Legal Criminals or else)
Public = Legal Criminals (those who invent, produce, and maintain the involuntary connection, or parasitic connection to the targeted, productive, victims)
The reason why that is the meaning of that word, in that context, is a direct result of the nature of the connection between The Honest Productive People, in America, and the separate, and sovereign, group of people who control U.S.A. Inc. (LLC), or The Dollar Hegemony, or The Establishment, or The Federal Government (which is actually a Nation State, and it is categorically not a Democratic Federated Republican experimental form of government), and therefore, the relationship between The Honest Productive People, The Tax Payers (the people who actually produce that which constitutes "TAX"), and, The Legal Criminals, is in one word, Crime.
The name used to designate one group, victims, from the other group, criminals, is whatever word perpetually renders the victims powerless.
Call the victims by the name "private" and so long as that word continues to render the victims powerless, so long will that word work to deceive the victims.
Call the criminals by the name "public" and so long as that word continues to render the victims powerless, so long with that word work to deceive the victims.
Try it on for size, see how it works, as you remove the words you are taught to use, and in place of those duplicitous, deceptive, words, you place meaningful words, accurate words, in place.
You may say that in context the producers of that news feed, The American Dream, are not using the words as you say they are using them, you may claim that the people running The Federal Reserve are "private" individuals, as the cartoon claims, and the people running The Federal Reserve are not "public" people, they are not Federal Employees, or "representatives", or anything having to do with "government", as the video intends to point out.
Here you may be duped, while my principled approach allows me to avoid all the duplicity, so as to arrive closer to the truth.
If someone has the legal license, or some group has that license, to double the total number of legal units of legal tender, as was done in 2008, then how can you claim, as the video appears to be claiming, that that power is not definitively a power of government, in any way that you may claim that the word government can be defined accurately, how can you support the claim that that group is not a government group, and to be even more specific, and to avoid confusion, and to avoid ambiguity, why not call that group a Legal Crime group, since that is what they are, categorically.
There are 12 people on a legally licensed group who have the legal power to govern the thoughts and behaviors of all the people that are connected to the legal fiction known as U.S.A., or The United States of America, and that group is called The FOMC, or the Federal Open Market Committee, and to say that those people are "Private" is akin to saying that I am Santa Clause.
Within a criminal connection, or involuntary association, by any name you want to hang on the door, or paint in the sign, or print on the stationary, the facts concerning how power flows, within such a connection, remain the same way; and it is the same way that power flows during crime.
Victims (producers of power) ->->->->->-> Criminals (those who resort to deceit, threats of violence, and violence upon the innocent as a means of gaining power, those who cause power to flow that way)
Why confuse the term Public with the word Private?
If the form of government is strictly voluntary, then there is no one who rises to a position of being a "public" employee. Do you call the person waiting on your table a "public" employee at the restaurant, and does the same person become "public" when they do the same thing at the defense contractor cafeteria?
Why?
A person working at The DMV, or the Post Office, or City Hall, or The National Guard, or in the cafeteria at the defense contractor's rented building, are working in places where your failure to pay involuntary taxes will result in you being punished by the people you supposedly hire to protect you, punishing you for failure to send then the power you earn, and that makes them "public" employees, in that specific, accountable, measurable, context.
Public = Criminal
Private = Liberty
If there has been, or ever will be, a public government that is not criminal, then it will be as voluntary an association as is humanly possible, such as, for example, a Democratic Federated Republican experimental, adaptive, competitive, form of government, such as the government that was operating when The Honest Productive Americans drove the invading British Legal Criminals out of the 13 Separate and Sovereign States, combined within that Voluntary, legal, Union. When the Nationalists took over that Voluntary Legal Union, under those Articles of Confederation, they did so by fraud, with their Dirty Compromise, their Constitution, which was, is, and continues to be an involuntary association, or Legal Crime, in progress.
Note how words change:
Pursuit of Happiness
Pursuit of Profit
Public = Not for Profit (Equity)
Private = Legally allowed to Profit
What power is at play to make the meanings of words duplicitous, having opposite meanings? What power is at play to make simple things too complicated for anyone other than the person causing simple things to be complicated?
Public versus Private terminology is within the ranges of victim's language, for public consumption, and the Legal Criminals are in on the gag, laughing all the way to your bank, the bank they stole, and the thing they use to keep the power flowing from you, the Honest Productive People of American, the source of power, to them, the Legal Criminals.
They even leave a very accurate and easy to follow paper trail, or trails, including, but not limited to, Comprehensive Annual Financial Reports. Victims can know exactly how much has been stolen, and by whom, whenever they care to look.
They tell you that "we" are broke, as they spend the power they steal from you, live lives of luxury, while you work harder, and harder, for less, and less, and for some very strange reason the victims believe the lies, the victims even hire known liars to represent them, as if the victims have been exposed to lies for so long that they can no longer conceive of the truth, even if the truth is spread out before them in no uncertain terms.
It isn't strange when you discover the truth, it actually makes sense, that the victims operate on an unconscious level, bypassing good moral sense, and avoiding the nagging intrusion of moral conscience, as the victims decide to buy a temporary stay of execution, a temporary lessening of impending torture, by paying liars, torturers, and serial killers to kill other people, to keep them busy working on torturing other people, murdering massive numbers of other people, and in that delay, as the hired liars, and hired torturers, and hired mass murderers, virtual cannibals, those horrible people are busy long enough to allow the voters, the employers, those who still voluntarily associate, within that connection, to those criminals, time; time before it is their turn in the meat grinder.
Time is running out, and the meat grinder is now targeting inward more so each day, as the headquarters of Legal Crime Inc., A.K.A. The New World Order, are gearing up for WWW III, the new Big One, as operations, as far as I can tell, will eventually be moved to Asia.
When Asia is being Boomed, American will continue to be busted, and the pretense of being "one of the gang", having made the choice: "If you can't beat'em, Join'em", will no longer be anything other than a complete and utter farce, a fantasy for the insane, a fabrication of complete and utter escape from reality, as the screws are turned as deeply as those same screws have been turned on other places, and other people, as in Iraq, and Afghanistan, and Africa, and all over the world, where the Legal Criminals have brought their low limits of bust on their business cycle schedule, no longer will the torture and murder be on "our" dime, since, we have none left to "contribute" in the effort to "Spread Democracy", or win any war, after being resolutely defeated in the next World War.
No longer will anyone be claiming that "we" are fighting terrorism, or "we" are the last free "Nation State", or "we" are going to save ourselves from global warming, or overpopulation, or we are this, or we are that, since we won't be required to say such lies anymore. We will be, unambiguous, victims.
Please sir, can I have some more.
I'm done with that video, it is too fueled up with lies for me. Perhaps it works to help other people get off the doom express sooner.
In terms of divorcing, totally, from any connection, or as many connections as is human possible, between The Honest Productive Americans, and any criminals, legal or otherwise, the power struggle is won first in the individual minds of each of The Honest Productive Americans, and once enough are clued in, the false credit card can be cut, and each of the remaining members of The Honest Productive Americans can invent, and adapt, and produce, and maintain, new, better, higher quality, and lower cost, methods of accurately accounting for each members capacity to earn the credit they are due.
Until then, until the new Liberty Day, doom will be the destination, on schedule.