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 Posted: Thu Aug 4th, 2011 04:29 pm
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Joe Kelley

 

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http://lewrockwell.com/celente/celente75.1.html

Honest Productive Americans,

Returning from a job I have time to invest in unraveling the mired web of deception and from that point of exposure a clear path can be realized, and then traveled, keeping in mind a serious need to remain adaptable, and be inventive, as new realizations present themselves along the way.

Above is a link to another one of the few people who are now gaining currency as the word is being spread concerning dire warnings, grave threats, and impending doom, which may, or may not, be suffered by those who are targeted, as the power struggle plays out.

This is not news.

The reason I picked the above text, that source of data, for this effort to keep the warning alive, is due to the fact that the inventor, and distributor, of that text, has offered a solution, and I will read that solution, and I will comment on that solution, and I will measure that solution in direct competition with my own proposed solution, and therefore solutions, more than one, comprise a scale of solutions, building a graduated yard stick of solutions, in the absence of solutions, within the sounds of silence.

A quote is needed, from the linked text, so as to get an idea, an understanding, a knowing, of what is a solution, according to that voice.

“It’s not just Model T economics that’s outmoded, so are our approaches to education, healthcare, politics and, yes, the military,” says Celente. “The old adage ‘Generals fight the last war’ is as valid as ever. While the technology may have changed, the mindset hasn’t. The conviction that brute force can prevail in an occupied country defended by guerilla combatants has proven a multi-trillion dollar, decade-long failure. Yet even as old wars drag on with no victory in sight, new wars are started such as ‘Operation Odyssey Dawn’ launched against Libya five months ago, a ‘kinetic military action’ that was supposed to end in ‘day’s, not weeks.’”

That is not the solution. That is a wording of the problem, and it is false. I an give Gerald Celente a measure of credit in that he may know better, and his message may be written in the language of victims.

What do I mean by saying "in the language of victims"?

Victims are told that the problems borne by the victims are being fixed by someone, so that the victims do not realize the need to fix the problems themselves, and this works as a method, or tactic, by which the legal criminals perpetuate victimization, since the legal criminals are the people who are supposedly fixing the problem, and the language that the victims are made to use, the words the victims are made to say, include these words that are repeated by Gerald Celente; whereby the people who are hired to fix the problem fail to fix the problem due to ineptitude, ignorance, or mistake, error, failure, but not for lack of willpower, not for lack of desire, not for lack of interest, the people hired to fix the problems try to fix the problems.

Victims are made to repeat that language.

"Our" leaders are trying to fix the problem, again.

Repeat that victim language many times.

Repeat that victim language may more times.

Make that victim language true in your mind.

Repeat that victim language until that victim language is true in your mind.

I don't.

I don't do this:

“It’s not just Model T economics that’s outmoded, so are our approaches to education, healthcare, politics and, yes, the military,” says Celente. “The old adage ‘Generals fight the last war’ is as valid as ever. While the technology may have changed, the mindset hasn’t. The conviction that brute force can prevail in an occupied country defended by guerilla combatants has proven a multi-trillion dollar, decade-long failure. Yet even as old wars drag on with no victory in sight, new wars are started such as ‘Operation Odyssey Dawn’ launched against Libya five months ago, a ‘kinetic military action’ that was supposed to end in ‘day’s, not weeks.’”

Gerald Celente may reach the victims, while I fail to reach the victims, since Gerald Celente speaks the victims langauge, and I don't.

I give Gerald Celente credit, if credit is due, if Gerald Celente earns credit for speaking victim langauge, when Gerald Celente uses words to convey the full measure of the problem.

What about the solution?

Celente Solution: Direct Democracy

Before I read details on that proposed solution I have to say two things.

1.
The solution to a false problem (speaking in victim language) is not likely to be an effective solution to the real problem. Solving the real problem requires an accurate identification of the real problem. The real problem is not such that "they" are failing to fix the problem despite every effort by the authorities, as those experts try desperately to fix the problem, but they fail to fix the problem. The real problem is simpler. Those specific people, who I call Legal Criminals, cause the problem, they may have been hired to fix the problem, in the minds of the victims, but the full measure of the problem is such that those specific people who are said to be hired to fix the problems, are causing the problems. Fix the problem, not the false problem. Fix the cause, not the symptoms.

2.
Direct Democracy can be illustrated very well by an essay done by a person who, as far as I know, is still in prison, and he is being punished by someone for something, and if you read the essay you may learn something about Direct Democracy and punishment.

http://www.outpost-of-freedom.com/jimbellap.htm

Now, having those two things offered to The Honest Productive People, the solution offered by Gerald Celente can be understood as a specific proposed solution, on the scale of proposed solutions.

In random order:

1. Gerald Celente (Direct Democracy) solution
2. Assassination Politics (Direct Democracy) solution offered by Jim Bell
3. A Nation State (such as the thing created by The U.S. Constitution) also knowable as Legal Crime
4. A Democratic Federated Republic (such as the thing that worked just before The Constitution was a product of a specific fraud)
5. Product 1 and Product 2 offered as two voluntary financial products offered by Joe Kelley as an illustration of how legal financial competition works to improve quality and lower cost

Being specific about item 1 on the list above there are words that intend to convey specifics and I can read those words, and I can quote words from the source, and I can comment on those word after I quote those words.

Can Direct Democracy really work? It does in Switzerland! But is it a viable, realistic substitute for the many representative democracies, which, in practice, are not democratic at all?

Switzerland, as far as I know, is a Democratic Federated Republic, as it was the Swiss model chosen by the so called Founding Fathers, as they invented, and then maintained The Articles of Confederation, so as to employ that specific from of government, which was not Direct Democracy.

What language works best to accomplish which goal?

Victim language perpetuates victimization.

What works to avoid victimization?

You tell me.