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What I don't understand is how to bring them into the physical realm?
HCKaos,
As I've said, they already exist, they are already in the physical realm, so your question applied to reality has to be rephrased. If I were to rephrase your question I would ask:
How can competitive legal monetary product production, and use, be increased?
If that is the question, then I have to point out that there must be a demand for increased production and use of competitive legal monetary products such as the illustrated examples I offer in Product 1, and Product 2.
The demand has to come from the honest productive people, since the dishonest legal criminals will loose their gravy train when competitive legal monetary product production and use increases, so they are not going to demand that increase in those products.
Example:
Many legal monetary products have been produced and used in the form that has since become known as Liar Loans, or Stated Income Loans, and many of these loans were produced, sold, resold, sold again, sold in bundles, and there is much evidence showing how legal "Chain of Title" has been lost, enough evidence has become known to alert "The Public" by some measure.
I mean "The Public" to mean the honest productive Americans, or the source of purchasing power behind Taxes, the source of surplus wealth is The Public.
Liar loans, bundled up, sold many times, and sold fraudulently, include, possibly, loans where the current "benefactor" (payee of principle and interest), has lost legal claim to the property since the lawful requirements of recording possession have not been met, bypassed in the rush to sell the loans fraudulently.
There is no question concerning the fraudulent production and sale of the loans, and there is a legal question concerning the chain of title, and the number of the loans falling into this possible description is an estimate, and your estimate is as good as anyone's, and I'll estimate at 10 million.
10,000,000
If it is true, and if 10 million people are in homes, legally, whereby they can stop paying mortgage payments, stop paying mortgage interest payments, and no one can legally remove them from those homes, because the holders of the loans have no legal claim on the loan, the holders of the loans have been victims of fraud, or are conspirators in fraud, then legally, that amounts to 10,000,000 new loan products produced and ready for action.
Is there a demand for it?
If I sent letters to all 10,000,000 people, once I found out the facts, and told them, all 10 million, that they can stop paying, and keep their homes, because the fact is, that the holders of their loans are either the victims of fraud, or are conspirators in fraud, how many of those people would demand new loans, or how many of those people would stop paying?
I have personal experience with this, so your answer has to be weighed, or measured, relative to what I already know to be true in the few cased I know about at this time.
What can cause an increase in the demand for competitive legal monetary products, so as to force the legal monetary product producers to increase their quality, lower their costs, or go out of business?
What has to happen?
Here is another possible answer to your question:
Legal Monetary Competition
If you read that link, and you don't see an answer to your question, then I can try to figure out how the question is not understood by me, since I see that link as a very good answer to your question.
I've tried to express that notion in past posts, but was met with a bit of resistance by you. I have no better solution to offer in this specific category of legal credits, and certainly am not defaulting through ignorance as I've read the description numerous times.
Honest productive people complain about taxes. That is a common demand made by honest productive people. Honest productive people are the source of power that is taxed, they are the source of the surplus wealth that is then measured by legal money, and taxes denominate, or measure, that surplus wealth, produced by honest productive people, as that power flows to the tax collection points, and then whomever gains control of that power, spends that power, invests that power, or saves that power.
Honest productive people demand lower taxes, by their complaints.
Honest productive people demand hospitals, firefighters, ambulances, city governments, county governments, state governments, and National governments, for all sorts of reason, not limited to protective expenses in defense against crime.
Honest productive people are confused by increased taxes, and lower returns on those investments, more taxes, less quality in hospitals, more taxes, less quality in firefighters, more taxes, less quality in police forces, lower quality, less quality in military employment (6 wars now, and who is "winning"?).
How many honest productive people know that a legal monopoly extortion racket is a method by which honest productive people are taxed?
Where does the total sum of all surplus wealth (profits) flowing from mortgage buyers go?
Add up all the mortgages, pay all expenses to everyone in the honest mortgage business, follow all the dollar denominated interest payments, minus those costs, and where do all the profits end up flow to?
How much is that total sum of all profits on legal mortgage interest in American in 30 years time?
Do you have any idea?
How much tax money flows from all the tax payers to all the tax spenders who profit from those expenses, minus the costs, in the same 30 years time?
Do you have any idea?
Which is the higher tax?
A.
Legal monopoly mortgage extortion racket profits.
B.
Legal tax expenditure profits?
Try 30 years time, give me your best guess.
When honest productive Americans know the facts, they may then stop complaining and they may then demand higher quality, and lower cost, and then your question is answered as increased production and use of competitive legal products like Product 1, and Product 2, as those products intend to illustrate legal competitive financial products.
A loan of 0-1% is a "dream come true" for many people, hell for all people.
After all the text we have exchanged so far, that single sentence tells me the most accurate information I need to zero right in on one of our shared beliefs in falsehood. Either you are ignorant or I am ignorant concerning the facts.
Why do you believe that low interest is "hell for all people"? Where do you come up with that belief?
How do you propose to bring this idea to life?
The problem is ignorance, and then there is an even more serious problem in the fact that many honest productive American's prefer to remain ignorant, and we are at a proving ground, right here, right now. One of us will walk away from this point with a dogged determination to remain ignorant, despite obvious evidence providing a way out of that state of ignorance. Who will it be, you or me?
What makes you believe that low interest rates will be "hell for all people"?
If that is what you believe, what makes you believe that, since from my understanding of much information gathering, working, thinking, reading, experimenting, the claim you make is false, and demonstrably false, so how do you come up with that belief?
If I can see the reasons for that belief, I may believe that belief too.
I will not accept blind belief, and certainly not blind belief in something that I've personally disproven. I am very receptive to evidence that supports your claim, so as to make sure that my understanding is either accurate or inaccurate.
How is a low interest rate "hell for all people"?
Why are your thoughts based upon such a false notion? What other false notions do you harbor as a direct result of harboring that one false notion?
Or is it me, on the other hand, that have made a principled false step, from which many additional false steps accrue?
How do you propose to bring this idea to life?
People, when they know better, demand better, including me, and you, and anyone else. When people know better, they demand better, and that is how better is brought to life.
No short cuts.
I offer you do so sooner the better, as more and more are incrementally losing the standard by which they would be elligible.
20 million people is one persons account of the murdered in Stalin's regime, where people were led to slaughter by accepting lies instead of truth, but I ask you: Why so many murdered? Why didn't everyone join in on all the fun?
The question is a direct measure of how many people refuse to join the liars club, how many, at risk of death, remain stoically honest and productive to the core (at least honest among friends if not honest in the face of criminals - legal or otherwise)?
How bad will it get in America, before the honest productive people demand better?
What form will better take?
Will those who have had enough lying, fraud, legal crime, still use The Federal Reserve System of Extortion, after they have had enough?
I don't think so.
When the honest productive people in American have had enough, there will be a low point, where the cost of living is highest, and the standard of living is lowest, in America, and after that low point, honest productive people in America will not settle for lower standards of living, will not settle for higher costs of living, and honest productive Americans will demand higher standards of living, and lower costs of living, and what do you think they will find when the start looking for remedy?
I think they will find the legal criminals who have been documenting their crimes on their money trail, the honest productive people in America will follow the money to the source, and God help those criminals left holding that empty bag, once their employers have moved on to greener pastures.
Regime change is afoot.
Will the new regime be more powerful criminals, or will this be the low point that honest productive Americans will refuse to stoop below?
Please don't dodge the question concerning why you think that low interest rates will be "hell for all people"; I am planning on attending a conference in Reno Nevada where many Gold Bugs will be speaking about this same topic, and if it is anything like the last conference I went to, all my questions will be dodged, and dodging specific questions are answers.
If you dodge the question, I'll have my answer.