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So, we understand that corporations are global now.
Electrellect,
Please understand that my response is in no way designed by me to win anything, or to be argumentative for the sake of argumentation. I have been searching for honest discussion for many years, finding very few examples, and that short story brings me right here, right now, looking at that sentence, stopping at that sentence, and offering a competitive response to that sentence, before moving on to reading the rest of your original offering for discussion on this forum.
I realized, and I understand, that the legal criminals (criminals who happen to be elected into positions of law enforcement) gain by the fact that their victims believe in legal fictions, and the belief is such that the legal fiction is, itself, a responsible entity, a being, and therefore an entity that can be held to account, and presumably, an entity that can be punished - while the actual legal criminals are not held to account, and are therefore left with all the power they need to perpetuate their legal crimes.
If my version of your sentence amounts to the same message, the same realization, and the same understanding, then from my view I'd have to assume a whole lot of message that does not show up in your sentence, unless I read between the lines.
Corporations are legal fictions, and they are incapable of thought, and they are incapable of action, and therefore they are incapable of responsibility, and they are incapable of accountability, and the legal criminals realize these facts, and their victims, as a rule, do not realize these facts, or understand these facts, with few exceptions to that rule.
They are not bound to the country they originated in.
Which is more important: people bound by moral consciousness, the realization, and the understanding that moral consciousness is necessary for survival as living beings, or people being bound by some legal fiction, or nation, or country, or geographical area?
What is meant by the words "the country"?
If you do not realize, or understand, the significance of the question being asked, then consider reading the following link, or at least the quote taken from it:
http://www.lysanderspooner.org/node/35
“The trial by jury,” then, is a “trial by the country” ---that is by the people as distinguished from a trial the government.
Do you use the term "The Country" to be a synonym for "The People", as being all the people, without exception, and specifically not a reference to the few people who constitute "The Government"?
Having no clue as to what you mean by they words "The Country", I am able to assume that you mean "The United States of America", or "The Nation State", or anything imaginable since the term has been used often to mean, specifically, the few people who wield the power of the government, or the law enforcement power, criminal or otherwise.
If you use the term to mean all the people within the geographical area that has been designated as the legal boundaries of The United States of America, generally, if not specifically ever single legal "possession' of that legal fiction, then I can go on to realize, and understand, whatever else you communicate about that all inclusive group of all of those people, without exception.
They are not bound to the country they originated in.
It seems to me that the legal criminals are bound very intimately to every single one of their victims, and they are connected, or bound, by the one single lawful currency, among other things - including a common language, and a language that has been renders as false as the fraudulent legal currency.
You can accuse me of resorting to arguments over semantics, and I can then be accused of resorting to deceit, to accomplish some nefarious goal, but I am innocent of that accusation, I just happen to have realized, and I now understand, a fuller measure of the power of falsehood, including how that power manages to pervade our common language. It is a good idea to return to principles, before taking false steps of interest. That is the true, and honest, explanation for my decision to focus attention on specific definitions for specific word choices.
Yet individual countries bail them out?
There it is, a use of a word that can cover up the crimes committed by specific people and blame those criminal acts on all the people, as if all the people in a "country" collectively perpetrate the crime, or the entire population of the country, as one unit, bailed them out.
Legal criminals form crime organizations. One legal criminal group has exclusive rights to exploit the victims in area X, while another legal criminal group has exclusive rights to exploit the victims in area Y, and at times one legal criminal group bails out another one. Is that the concern being voiced?
Yet individual countries bail them out?
Do I realize the true measure of the actual situation in question?
Example:
The legal criminals running The Dollar Hegemony, also known as The Federal Reserve System of extortion, also known as U.S.A. Inc. (LLC), have doubled the total number of legal dollar units in 2008, and the purchases made with that huge measure of purchasing power is a tightly held secret, but some evidence suggests that portions of that huge measure of purchasing power has been sent to finance the following laundry list:
1. Suppression of defense against legal crime in Libya, Palestine, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, Egypt, Columbia, Venezuela, and places not as well documented
2. Offensive aggressive violent attacks upon innocent victims in the same areas mentioned above
3. Asset purchases of productive natural resources in some of the same areas mentioned above
4. Construction of productive facilities in the some of the same areas mentioned above and other areas such as China
5. The production and publication of deceptive communications designed to cover up the legal crimes being accounted for here
6. The purchase and consumption of weapons and ammunition used in the legal crimes being accounted for here
7. The purchase and consumption of personnel used in the perpetration of the legal crimes being accounted for here
8. The planning and executing of the plan to cause World War Three as a means by which the legal monopoly power transfers from U.S.A. Inc. (LLC) to Asia (or wherever the new base of operations will be)
Why should the American tax payer bail out a bank that is global?
Realize, please, that the source of surplus wealth, which is the source of credit, is the honest productive people, here in America, or anywhere, and therefore the fraud that is in play, is such that the legal criminals have convinced their benefactors, their employers, are their benefactors, their employers, and their lenders of last resort.
Is that too complicated to understand, and to realize?
The source of surplus wealth, which is the source of purchasing power, is the honest productive people, also known as "The Tax Payers", and those same people are now convinced that they owe money to some other group.
How is that even remotely possible?
The producers of wealth, the powerful people, have been led to believe that they owe another group something - with interest.
Not only have the honest productive people been duped into the false belief that they owe another group money, they have even been duped into believing that they owe interest on the money they owe that group.
That fraud can be illustrated absurdly, because it is absurd.
You walk in to a bank in your town.
You hand the employee at the bank a legal notice that says: Give me all your money.
They obey that law and they give you all their money.
Now you return the next day after spending that money on the construction of a new bank across the street, and the new bank will now compete with the bank that you had just removed all the money, and upon your return you hand the employee at the bank another notice.
On the new notice you demand repayment of the entire amount of the money you took from the bank the previous day, and now the employee of the bank believes that his bank owes you the entire sum of the money you already took the previous day.
You then hand the same person at the bank another notice.
On the next notice you demand, legally, that on top of the entire principle, of the money that bank owes you, for you having taken that entire sum from that bank the previous day, that bank also owes you interest payments, over 30 years, which amounts to double the entire sum of money that you took the first day.
Day 1:
You demand and take X amount from that Bank.
Day 2:
You demand and take monthly payments for the entire amount you already took, and then demand payment for that entire sum.
30 years later:
You collect a total of 3 times the money you took from that bank on Day 1
Why should the American tax payer bail out a bank that is global?
Why are Americans stupefied to the point where they will obey every order unconditionally?
If the legal criminals can convince their victims that disobedience is not an option, they have absolute power over their victims, hell, they can cause their victims to send their beloved children off to torture and murder, and be tortured, and be murdered, at the exclusive pleasure of their masters.
Anything is believable once unconditional obedience is a measurable fact.
What should the moral, honest, productive American people do?
How about inventing and using an honest currency as a reasonable, and understandable, starting point, say, on July 4th 2012, or sooner?
I.e. Goldman Sachs got bailed out in the U.S., is getting bailed out in Greece, and other countries, etc.
Do you see the problem here?
Many people work at Goldman Sachs, and many of those people pay taxes, and many of those people are honest productive Americans, in every sense of the words, in measurable ways, as their actions help increase the total production of surplus wealth, and other people work at Goldman Sachs.
Which ones have planned on, and have executed those plans, to injure innocent people? Which people at Goldman Sachs are the people who are guilty of crimes? Is it a good idea, or a bad idea, to collectively punishes everyone for the crimes of a few people?
Do you realize the full measure of the problem?
Did bailing out a global corporation help the United States tax payers?
Does anything done with any dollars have anything to do with any honest productive person if all the honest productive people use a competitive, honest, accurate, and powerful legal currency instead of the dollar?
Entire countries owned.
Unconditional obedience is what: ownership?
Most Americans know that Iraq is about oil, etc.
Oil is a measure of actual, physical, power, convertible to watts, or BTUs. Etc. is a measure of actual power, convertible to dollars, without one power, the other power is without power. Without unconditional obedience, how can the legal criminals maintain their connection to their victims?
Do you get any benefit from our troops securing oil in the Gulf?
When the victims are unconditionally obedient to the point where they are ordered to use only dollars, then their fate will be directly connected to the fate of the dollar value. Those oil fields back the purchasing power of the dollar, and those powers combine to enforce what is known as World Reserve Currency Status.
When The Dollar Hegemony is no longer The World Reserve Currency, you will know the full measure of that loss of that power because the American people are unconditionally obedient enough to bet their farms on the fate of the dollar, and when the dollar falls and when a new World Reserve Currency is enforced, by the new power, the powerless fate of the dollar will drag down all the Americans who volunteer to be connected to that fate - failing to invent, produce, and maintain a higher quality, and lower cost, option.
When that happens, your question may be more comprehensively understood, as that realization becomes real, and you are unable to ignore the full measure of the actual answer.
Do you get any benefit from our troops securing oil in the Gulf?
They are enforcing The World Reserve Currency status of The Dollar Hegemony, as planned, and the plan is to expend those troops in the effort to transfer that power from The Dollar Hegemony to whatever the new power will be, which is a trade secret, not for public consumption. Your guess is as good as anyone's, unless you are an insider at the top, and my guess is that the new World Reserve Currency power will be based in Asia, because Asia is on the Boom cycle, and America is on the Bust cycle - in a big way - both ways.
I have to stop at this point and get some work done.