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The currency debate is one in which I am not versed well enough to yet form a rigid decision. One thing for sure, the dollar doesn't go nearly as far as it used to. My best stance on the issue would be in relating it to my daily life.
HCKaos,
The employment of a legal monopoly currency extortion racket is insidious and well covered up with falsehoods that flow as readily from the same source as the units of legal money does, from well before the usurpation occurs and constantly from then on; which is the nature of falsehood - one lie causes a demand for two lies, and then two lies cause a demand for four.
While the victims focus on the lies produced, including the actual money units, the real force of the deception causes both psychological (political) and physical (economic) power to flow from the honest productive people to whomever the legal criminals target, exploit, and then charge, or tax, or demand eventual transfer of power to those in control of the legal money supply.
People are led to believe that money is power itself, and focus is then trained on money, not the fact that it is currency, and not the fact that the power of money is the power to purchase, and not the fact that ultimately the goal of the legal criminals is a power to purchase destruction.
What do you think is done by anyone seeking more power, once their power to produce has reached a limit? The same question can include a vital word, or two, or three, that adds to the measure of the question in such a way as to clue the person asking the question in on the accurate answer.
What do you think is done by anyone seeking more power, once their power to honestly produce has reached a limit?
What do you think is done by anyone seeking more power, once their power to produce, without resort to deception, and without resort to threats of violence, and without resort to acts of violence, has reached a limit?
The answer is not as easy as it may first appear.
People reaching that limit of power that can be gained honestly, and without threats of violence, and without resort to gaining more power by destroying with aggressive violence, are in competition with other people seeking power within those same limitations; therefore what must be done by those seeking power without those limitations, is to make what they do against the law for everyone except them.
What must be done, rationally, reasonably, logically, and effectively, is to award a select group, license, or for a select group to seize exclusive license, to use deceit, to use threats of violence, and to use acts of terrible, and massive, violence, while no one else is legally allowed to do so, and once that power is transferred to that select group, what do you think will be produced by said group?
1. Deceit
2. Threats of violence
3. Massive amounts of aggressive violence, for the profits of a select few, paid for by the many, directly as targets, or indirectly as the producers of the surplus wealth required in the work of destruction.
While the targeted victims are focused on gaining their own power, with the money that is "loaned" to them, at interest, and while those same honest productive people are shackled within the limits of power that can be accumulated honestly, and without ever resorting to threats of violence, and without ever resorting to actual violence, there is no limit on the amount of power that is flowing to the legal criminals who are excepted from those limits lawfully.
That is my long winded way of saying this:
Common Sense
Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one: for when we suffer, or are exposed to the same miseries BY A GOVERNMENT, which we might expect in a country WITHOUT GOVERNMENT, our calamity is heightened by reflecting that we furnish the means by which we suffer.
I have a shorter version too.
Power produced into oversupply reduces the price of power while single legal monetary units appreciate, because power reduces the cost of production.
Destruction reduces production, raises the cost of production, consumes power, and causes the legal monopoly monetary unit to depreceate.
So why choose to deceive - which destroys, as a rule, as a purpose?
So why choose to threaten violence - which destroys, as a rule, as an intended purpose?
So why choose to injure innocent victims with violence - which destroys, as a rule, as a willful, premeditated, intended act, for exclusive profit?
While the victims are focused on one single legal monopoly unit, because it is a requirement of social life, by law, what do you think is going on behind the scenes in a big, big, big, way?
How big?
Here are past measures:
News report A
News report B
Those deceptions, those threats of violence, and those acts of violence were orchestrated in that way, for a specific purpose, and a purpose that is not for public consumption.
A new arrangement is in the execution stage today, and that new arrangement appears to be the move of The World Reserve Currency, currently The Dollar Hegemony (The Federal Reserve System of legal fraud), to another base of operations, with another name, most likely to Asia, and the events that cause that move may include events that will be recorded in the history books posthumously, and that will be a book that is published for public consumption, and the tile on that history book will be: World War III.
Currently the vast supplies of surplus wealth that have been produced, and have been stolen, are flowing to places that are setting in place the powers that need to be powerful so as to cause these new planned events.
The stories that are for public consumption include stories that claim that these pending events are random and inevitable, and the legal criminals are doing everything possible to avoid them, and they are merely unable to stop the inevitable forces that are randomly occurring.
And that may all be too much for someone who is focused on making a living within the boundaries of moral being. Seeking work in exchange for dollars sufficient for survival.
If I use credit to finance a lifestyle I can no longer pay for, at what point does it make sense to stop purchasing?
Once in the business cycle the power of credit includes investment decisions that are long term, seeking a steady flow of return on investment, and therefore the simple calculation is obviously more complicated. Harboring an incomplete or confused perception of the concept of credit, often confusing that concept with the concept of debt, is bound to render the confused, or the bewildered, stupefied, and powerless, and if that sounds insulting, it is only meant to be accurate, and if the shoe fits, it is beyond my power to unfit it, it merely fits.
Often such reports by me insight in the reader a knee jerk reaction to shoot the messenger. That is also not within my power to control, absent self-censorship, which is within my power, and I choose not to censor the honest truth as I see it.
That answer is obvious to me, but at the government level that simple fact is not considered.
Have you investigated Comprehensive Annual Financial Reports yet? Why would anyone ever assume that "they" are such and such, while "we", are by some measure smarter, or more powerful, as they drive their limousines to one of their summer homes claiming that "we" are broke?
Actual people make willful decisions for specific reasons and the consequences of those willful acts are accurately recorded on ledgers; leaving a trail that identifies who is profiting at whose expense. It is not a mystery.
The solution is to raise their own credit limit?
Do you have a working concept of credit?
Do you have a working concept of debt?
Are your working concepts of credit and debt the same concept, indistinguishable from one to the other, but for some reason the two exact same concepts have two names, for some strange reason?
Who is "their" in your question? Who are those people, exactly?
What do you mean when you use the word "own" in that sentence?
Credit is a social connection between individuals who agree to credit an individual with the power to purchase. Many people voluntarily agree to allow an individual to purchase, because that individual has been afforded the power according to everyone else who affords that individual that power to purchase. In that sense, it can be understood, that everyone else is in debt to that one individual who has been afforded, by some means, the power to purchase, or, in other words, everyone is in debt to the one who has been given credit, and given that credit, in that measure, by everyone else who has voluntarily done so - not having anything to do with anyone else who is not connected in that specific way.
Is that something worth seeing, or is it better to confuse credit with debt, as if credit and debt were the same thing?
Here is your question again:
The solution is to raise their own credit limit?
Here is some news for anyone, you, anyone:
The Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC) consists of twelve members--the seven members of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System; the president of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York; and four of the remaining eleven Reserve Bank presidents, who serve one-year terms on a rotating basis.
Here:
Federal Reserve
Those are people. They live, they breath, and they eat. They have the power to double or cut in half the entire number of legal dollar units.
You don't.
If you fail to understand the full measure of that power, you are ignorant. If you are ignorant, that isn't so bad, compared to someone who believes that they know the full measure of the power held by those few people, while being ignorant.
In the case of mere ignorance, the individual is in a position to know better.
In the case of a belief in falsehood, the individual is powerless to know better.
Which is it?
We're proving we cannot make the interest payments, yet will spend millions debating that fact and work to secure more credit cards? WTF?!?
Those words above prove to me the level of your brainwashing as being severe. I can't help you out of that mire. You have to pull yourself out, and all I can do is offer competitive choices to you.
Which choice will you take?
All the information I have been gathering for over 25 years indicates that the most powerful few are Busting U.S.A. Inc. (LLC) and those powerful few are moving central command to Asia, under a different name, and to get to that goal those powerful few are willing, able, and ready, to cause World War III.
These facts measure up as a very good opportunity for all the honest productive American people, to regain control over the law power, and the money power, since those powers are being destroyed by those few most powerful legal criminals.
In the absence of a moral law power, and in the absence of a credit worthy lawful money power, because those powers are being destroyed, there will be something filling that void, what will fill that void, what will be supplied to meet that demand?
If the legal criminals have their way, according to their plans, that void will be filled with whatever works best for them, at the expense of all the honest productive American people - which is not too difficult to understand.
That measures up as this:
Power Flow Chart
The plan being carried out by the legal criminals will measure up as that same thing above, or better, for them, which is worse for the honest productive American people.
While The Dollar Hegemony is willfully destroyed, so as to usher in something better for the legal criminals, the honest productive American people have an opportunity to fill the void during that Bust part of that cycle.
While the same legal criminals are willfully destroying the moral law power, which is a continuous Bust cycle, the honest productive American people have two choices:
A. Regain moral law power
B. If you can't beat em': join em'
Either the moral law power will be commanded into greater power or the criminal power will gain more power during that low point on our horizon.
Which is it going to be? It won't be stumbled upon by the ignorant. It certainly won't be willfully gained by the misdirected, the misled, and those who willfully choose a false path.
Honest productive people will either win or they will suffer even more at the hands of those who target them, exploit them, and steal their power, and then use that stolen power to keep that power flowing, and then accelerate the flow of that stolen power, and then accelerate the rate of acceleration of that flow of power.
Here in the last true bastion of freedom (for now) the web, how best can WE pool OUR resources to organize, in such a way as people will give a shit, and mobilize to have our voices heard?
You are one of a very few people I've come across in more than 25 years, as someone willing to stick your neck out, and have the false parts chopped off, or as a direct result of your risk, you manage to help someone else, by exposing their delusions, which, in essence, is the power of discussion.
Not debate.
Not argumentation for the sake of argumentation.
Competitive viewpoints honestly shared in the effort to improve the accuracy of the shared viewpoint, and therefore lower the costs of life directed on false headings.
What is the purpose of discussion, and why is discussion absent in modern times?
You are the exception. What else is in your power to do, as you seek to solve the problems that you have accurately identified?
I have been on this path for over 25 years, and I have answers, and you can read the answers I offer, including the Product 1 and Product 2 answers, to test them for validity, or you can ignore those answers and invent your own.
Whichever works for you.
Here in the last true bastion of freedom (for now) the web, how best can WE pool OUR resources to organize, in such a way as people will give a shit, and mobilize to have our voices heard?
Product 1:
A legal credit afforded to honest productive people who have earned a no interest mortgage loan for their principle residence and their business property.
Product 2:
A legal credit afforded to honest productive people who have earned a 1% interest loan on any purchase whereby it is proven that the power consumed is less than the power gained by that purchase in excess of a 1% gain in power.
If the goal is ambiguous, how can there be a specific path to that goal?
If you don't like the goal I offer, or the specific path to that goal, but you have no competitive goal, and you have no competitive path to no goal, how can my goal offered, and the path to my offered goal, be considered inferior by you?
What ever happened to Common Sense in America?
I have an obvious answer.
Common Sense is an exclusive license held by the very few legal criminals, the ones who have awarded themselves all the credit in the world, and Common Sense has been outlawed, and is enforced as being against the law, for any of the many debtors who have been made debtors by law, by those powerful few.
If that has gone beyond the word limit, so be it. My power is severely limited. I am not a member of the FOMC.