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Also, are these examples within the current economic situation and laws, or your ideal version?

freedom_commonsense,

I offer an example of what can illustrate the power of competition as competition forces the solution (peacefully forces, and is a welcome force, and is a voluntary force), and competition forces the quality of things produced up, including money, and competition forces the cost of things produced down, including money.

Without an example the point is difficult to illustrate. I want to get that clear. I offer an illustrative example of competition while fully acknowledging the power, or the force, to answer the topic question is competition, not criminal competition, but voluntary competition, in money markets specifically, and in everything produced generally.

If the problem in view is the problem stated in the topic question, then the solution will have to address the problem, not a symptom of the problem, as prevention of the problem fixes the problem; while treatment of the symptoms does not fix the problem.

The problem, in a word, is crime.

The problem, in another word, is monopoly.

The problem is more complicated as the problem is also legalize monopoly, or legal crime. Now there are two words that accurately identify the problem generally.

Which words are competitively higher quality (more accurate) words, and which words are less costly (less prone to send defensive effort treating symptoms) words?

How do we eliminate the paradox of poverty & privation amid plenty & abundance?

That is a fine question once the reader understands the meaning of the question; but the question alone, out of contextual meaning, describes symptoms. The problem is crime. The problem is a legalized criminal fraud that has perpetuated since well before The Constitution; and solutions to the problem of legalized criminal monetary monopoly fraud include short periods of prosperity whereby competition in money markets (ending legalized money monopoly fraud power) have been experimented on, improved, and have worked.

An example of such a time is the time before The Constitution paved the way for the current legal money monopoly fraud; and Benjamin Franklin has be quoted on that experiment, how it worked, why it worked, and what force ended it.

Other examples of such illustrative examples of how competition in money markets work to peacefully force out the legal money monopoly fraud power is the following links:

http://www.umungu.com/scrip.htm

http://utopianist.com/2011/01/stimulus-writ-small-tiny-california-town-prints-its-own-currency/

http://utopianist.com/2011/01/stimulus-writ-small-tiny-california-town-prints-its-own-currency/

That is a lot of reading material; and so my illustrative offering intends to cut by a whole lot of words and begin working personally with anyone wanting to know how the force of competition can solve the problem whereby the symptoms to the problem include the topic question.

The problem is legal, or organized, and legalized, crime. Symptoms of the problem include many people having no power while few people have enormous power.

Product 1 is simple to grasp.

You, or anyone, wanting to buy a home, or buy a business property, represents a measure of the demand for said Product 1.

You, or anyone, wanting to refinance an existing home mortgage, or business mortgage, whereby the interest rate amounts to an entire second home price paid by you to the producer of the legal monetary product known as a mortgage - you pay the price of your home, to get your home, and then you pay an entire extra home price, or more, to the seller of the loan, and the money for the loan is given to the original seller of the money: The FED.

I could spend pages in an effort to explain The FED, and get no where. How does the idea of a way out of exorbitant mortgage usury work to interest someone into gaining knowledge of the actual problem?

You can know more by expanding the self-interest angle of view into an amalgamated or "collective" view using numbers.

Numbers help in grasping the scale of the problem, and numbers help to grasp the scale of the illustrated solution.

Product 1 intends to solve the following measure of the problem:

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

An individual can look at that measure of the problem and an individual can know the measure of their own self interest in solving that problem, and an individual can also see the wider viewpoint of the problem as the problem is measured as a "collective'' problem - with numbers.

Now use numbers to help see the power of the proposed solution, individually, and collectively.

If you are young and not yet set-for-life with an abundance of surplus wealth, that you inherit, or that you produce in time, and you want a new home, you have the business-as-usual option, a monopoly legal money power fraud, or you have the proposed solution in front of you.

Make it easy and assume that the average cost per person, per home, is One Hundred Thousand Dollars (or not dollars, instead, the choice is a competitive money unit that competes with dollars for market share).

A.
Business as usual (legal money monopoly power fraud):
200,000 dollars cost per person as one entire expense of one home produced by the buyer and paid to the home builder/owner and a second entire expense of one home is produced by the buyer and paid to the legal money monopoly power fraud.

B.
A competitive example:
100,000 dollars cost per person as one entire expense of one home produced by the buyer and paid to the home builder/owner.

Which is better for the individual? Which will any individual choose on a planet where people have brains and on a planet where people use their brains?

A.
200,000 dollars for a home

B.
100,000 dollars for the same home

Readers may be thinking about this, imagining "inflation", or some other knee jerk reaction, without using their own brains first. Consider hearing me out.

The idea right now is to quantify the problem, already done with the National Debt Clock, and quantify the problem with an individual home mortgage flow of power from the home buyer to the banking cartel. The idea then is to expand the measure of the solution to the problem by adding a factor of numbers of people who will choose the higher quality and lower cost competitor - then questions concerning inflation or other questions such as: how do the producers  of the money make money, or make a profit, or cover expenses, etc.?

If one third of the population of America, roughly 100 million people, choose Product 1, then the measure is a simple addition of zeros.

Each person no longer sends 100,000 dollars to pay for their own well earned good faith and credit to the legal money cabal, and 100 million people add to that reduction of power flowing to that exclusive group of criminals.

100,000
100,000,000

That is 13 zeros, and it is known that a loan typically lasts 30 years, but in our legal system of fraud: mortgages perpetuate; therefore the flow of power keeps flowing in that interesting direction from the honest working people (who produce surplus wealth) to the legal criminals who steal it with their perpetuating fraud.

10,000,000,000,000 is the collective measure of the flow of power going from those who create surplus wealth to those who steal with their exclusive license to profit from a legal money fraud.

Now you can clearly see the measure of the problem: The Debt Clock, and half of the solution: Product 1.

That debt clock does not exist for anyone who is severed from the legal money unit known as The Dollar. That Debt Clock measures the connection between the honest productive people who create surplus wealth and the criminals who gave themselves the license to steal that surplus wealth with that Dollar system of extortion.

10,000,000,000,000 is a measure of power no longer produced by honest productive people and then sent to the legal criminals because they peacefully, and voluntarily, chose the better legal money product, once the competitive example was for sale.

The illustrated solution to the problem has two parts, not one, and the second part can be seen as razor blades, and the first part can be seen as a razor; and the idea is to give away the razor (no interest loans) so as to sell the razor blades, and the cost for a product 2 loan is 1% interest.

People with usable brains would choose a no interest home or business mortgage loan over the same measure of purchasing power that costs the buyer twice the cost of the home or business property.

People do not choose, voluntarily, to work so that someone else can get a new home, this is not subject to rational argument. The choice, as presented, will be made as suggested. Product 1 when produced will sell, and it will force out the competition.

Old loans would retire, interest unpaid, and new loans would take over the market share, at 0% interest.

Product 2 is another matter entirely. Product 2 is borrowed by a person who desires to use their own good faith and credit toward industrious investment; such as conversions from oil based transportation to electric based transportation, which is already occurring measurably, and to accomplish this conversion a person can have that opportunity with Product 2.

A person can begin converting by purchasing Solar Panels with the new Product 2 loan, and in so doing the person reduces their monthly costs for electricity even when accounting for the additional cost of sending 1% interest to the producer of the money used in the loan.

People may not do so, while electric prices remain marginally more expensive compared to electricity prices made at home with Solar Panels. What happens when electricity prices rise?

Why do electricity prices rise?

Here is where I use a political and economic law that I have recognized and that may help you understand how Product 1 and Product 2 will solve the problem as the problem has been stated.

Power produced to oversupply reduces the price of power while purchasing power increases, because power reduces the cost of production.

The price of electricity goes up when economic power reduces, when fewer people increase surplus wealth, and when more people consume surplus wealth, or, in other words: prices rise when people fail to invest wisely, or, when power is not used to create more power.

When the problem is understood as a power struggle, the solution becomes obvious.

From an individual perspective it is one thing, and from a sum-of-all-the-individuals perspective it is another thing.

Problem 1 and Problem 2 intends to fix the problem by fixing the individual problems, and the sum-of-all-the-individual's problems happens to also be fixed by the same solutions.

If you can't afford food prices, borrow money to get a Modular Vertical Farming Unit, grow your own food for less money, higher quality food, lower cost food, and if you are industrious, buy two units, and use the second unit to make algae based gasoline to sell to those people who can still afford gasoline powered transportation, and sell that higher quality fuel for less cost (price) than gasoline.

The expense of food is a necessary expense, you will work to produce an exchange of something for food, this is a fact, or you will make your own food, or you will resort to crime to get food, you will still work, criminals may think they are getting something for nothing, while they still have to work, and even criminal bosses may think that they are getting something for nothing, ordering other people to steal for them, but managing a cabal of fellow criminals has to be a huge work load, keeping your back free of stabs, while you stab everyone else in the back.

Product 2 can be a loan for a food producing product, proven to be capable of producing more food costs than the costs of gaining the food producing product. If you cannot grasp the measure of that, I can offer answers to specific questions. I can try other words to convey the same meaning, so as to improve the effort to communicate the measure of Product 2.

I can answer questions concerning inflation. I can answer questions concerning the license to produce, sell, and maintain the accounts of Product 1 and Product 2, and I can restate the fact that the solution to the stated problem is competition, generally, and not my illustrated competitive example specifically.

I tried to keep things down to a sound bite. There is much to the problem, the solution can't be a sound bite.