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 Posted: Sat May 28th, 2011 11:37 am
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Joe Kelley

 

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I am interested in knowing the truth; or, if you prefer, a different wording, intending to mean the same thing: I am interested in improving the accuracy of my viewpoint.

I can also report a progression of my viewpoint from what it was to what it is now, along a path that included much interest in Austrian Economics, since that group includes the work of Ludwig Von Mises, which helped me greatly in forming my current understanding of political economy.

Within the Austrian group there are two factions. If I speak to someone who claims to be an Austrian Economist, proponent, or professional, whatever, I can begin to qualify, and quantify that divide between that group.

Let me back up some.

Most of the information that appears to me to be of any value, on political economy, is information written by dead people, or people who are not accessible to me. Some of the best stuff I've found so far was written in the 19th century. Very few living people are working on political economy, that I can find, to explain, better, how political economy works. I found out about the Austrian Economists and then I began to seek them out to ask them questions and, as it turned out, as far as I can tell, they are not answering questions, unless the questions are filtered.

In the words attributed to Patrick Henry, I smell a rat.

I think that the Austrian group has been infiltrated, and to say as much, to confess my thoughts, brings down upon me the force of fashionable knee jerk reactions known as "kill the messenger" as my confession inspires thoughts of "conspiracy theory".

Just as the Federalists, back in the days after the American Revolutionary War, were infiltrated by the Nationalist, so have, apparently, the Austrian Economists, today, are infiltrated by their legal crime loving imposters.

And you may have already stopped reading. It isn't as simple as my words may have the power to expose - accurately.

Case in point:

A person named James Madison, according to the source I have so far, appears to have been one of the people who were duped into a false belief that was generated by an imposter group; so if he, James Madison, an intelligent person, could be duped, then who else can be duped?

You?

Me?

Who else?

Pick anyone, anywhere, where the person is harboring a belief in something, and then ask questions, and find out if there are unresolvable contradictions in their beliefs? What does that indicate?

Are you curious?

What do you ask the Mormons or other religious people when they knock on the door?

I've found out some very interesting, and unresolvable contradictions.

Examples:

Mormons think that their leadership have direct connections to God, and are infallible, while they claim that other religions have been influenced by evil forces, the Devil, and they are doing bad things while the Devil makes them think they are doing good things, and I'm paraphrasing, so I ask the Mormons, good young lads, my questions.

Such as:

If your Mormon leadership tells you to go to Iraq and fight the native population, will you do so?

The answer was a surprise to me, considering all the information I know about why American military people are conducting these aggressive wars for the very few people who profit from them, since, the answer from the Mormon I asked, was an enthusiastic yes.

So, to me, the Mormons are measurably infiltrated, as their leadership is, in a measurably way, convincing their followers to do evil things, based upon obvious lies. I can't conclude such a viewpoint, I'm reported my progress to date.

Other religious people stop by, give me books, pamphlets, for free, and I ask things about war, and I get answers that indicate the same thing, someone at the top is filling these, otherwise good people, with lies. Lies that purport to excuse torture, mass murder, and all the things done with aggressive wars for profit, such as "giving" the land in Israel back to those who God says belong on that place on this planet.

I can ask where God says that, and the answer is "The Bible" and I can then ask: What if the Devil wrote the Bible. They say: "God wrote the Bible". I ask: How do you know? They say: "It says so in the Bible."

Mormons don't make that mistake, at least.

So, I see all these people harboring all these obvious, measurable, inconsistencies, and unresolvable contradictions, and I want to know which lies I harbor still.

Does that make any sense to you?

It is clear to me.

Are you friend, or are you foe?

If you harbor lies, you may be your own worst enemy - or so I think about me.

I'm curious about that, and I need help figuring out that, since if I were my own worst enemy, who could help me know that fact?