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#1...LEO=Law Enforcement Officer.
Persona Non Grata,
I can get back to that later, now that I know what you mean, I have to go back and read the context of the acronym. For now I see our discussion taking a bad turn in the following:
#2...Whether I do or do not see any significance in a link you posted does not bear on my or anyone else's decision-making process, so try not to make weakly formulated presumptions, if you would please...
Having no reference as to what you mean with the above, and polite, request, I can't honor the request, since it makes no sense to me. If you have no comment on the references I offer, then you don't have any comment on the references I offer, and to me that is exactly what is its, you have no comment concerning the references I offer.
#3...The PEOPLE have the power to "target" tyrants, if they would just band together with singular purpose, be it either in armed rebellion or unarmed revolt. If an intelligent person cannot perceive which are tyrants when their actions boldly proclaim their tyranny, then such person deserves their oppression, in my opinion...
My point on that has to do with getting from point A to point B, whereupon there isn't enough power, therefore point A become powerlessness, and point B, obviously, becomes a willful effort to gain power.
That was my point.
If you say that The People have the power, that is a statement that can be proven, or that is a statement that can be dis-proven, in a measurable way, and if I can offer another link that may or may not help with the measure of the power of The People, I can only hope that you will consider the measure of this power that The People have, so as to help measure the claim for accuracy. Offer me a measure of the power of The People as you know it to be - please.
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
If the link doesn't measure what you claim, then I have no idea what it is that you are claiming to be this power that The People have, so our viewpoints are, apparently, measurably, not on the same page.
#4...I have read Mr. Bell, and am one who believes that his system, while a bit extreme, is preferable to the con-artistry which is so prevalent among our governors today...The likelyhood that Mr. Bell was persecuted for thought - of any kind - is only further testament to the absolute tyranny of the powers-that-be.
The powers-that-be know who to snuff out and who not to waste time on, such is a measure of their power. Other people are less inclined to resort to the stuffing out solution to problems. The ratio of those who resort to snuffing out, and those who avoid resorting to snuffing out, if I can offer a wild guess, is somewhere along the lines of 1 to 99, on average, but a wild guess, there must be fewer of the killers, and there must be more of the cannon fodder, otherwise there wouldn't be anyone left, and I think that the average is being pushed to an unacceptable high average for the snuffing out group, and those on the top of that group are set to do some spring cleaning, if that makes any sense. I have no references for that perspective, since it is just my own - all alone. I think they know that their own numbers are bloated.
#5...I'm sure you're a very well read person, as am I. And you seem to have an abundance of faith in the knowledge of books and the act of evangelizing others with the knowledge gleaned from them. I also value the advice and wisdom of those more learned than myself...but I am not the guy who, when faced with a severe personal threat, will quickly assess the situation and try to determine which previously read tome possesses the knowledge to talk my self out of harm's way...
Is that a clue for me to shut up, or just a clue for me to stop wasting my time linking sources? I can't tell. Are you just speaking your mind, or am I specifically well suited to be receiving this news from you? I don't know what faith has to do with me, I'm not one to be consumed by faith, to my knowledge, I don't understand faith, much.
Harm is on the horizon, and being powerless to avoid it, to me, indicates a need to gain more power.
Some are men of words...some are men of action. I don't believe quietly pondering the next philosophical edition is going to stop the American Gestapo, do you?
I have no idea as to why you would even ask me such a question. I'm the guy who knows that the only way to avoid harm is to gain more power than those who will harm. Why would you ask me such a question? What brings you to the point of asking me that question, as if I wrote something that could indicate something about me that would inspire you to ask me that question?
When the legal criminals slaughtered the people in Waco, I can still remember the phone call, Linda Thomson started an armed march on Washington. I have an M1 Garand, I got it cheap from "the government" through the DCM program, I was set to take it. I was set to go show a force of deterrence, not start a war, I have no idea why protestors protest unarmed, it makes no sense to me.
When that armed march of deterrence didn't materialize, I ran for congress in my distract, on the "It isn't good to torture and mass murder for profit" ticket, and the NRA backed the Assault Weapons Banning Republican candidate instead.
I have been running an on-line presidential campaign, last election cycle, and again for this cycle. When The People, with all their power, have enough power, they will end the current reign of terror, or they will perish. I'm not sitting on the sidelines, but I too have to eat, my time, my power, is limited.
I believe only a MASSIVE movement (action, not words) will dispel this particular parasite. Please understand, I don't want blood, but I fear it will be inevitable if people don't stop yapping and start DOING.
Words are not powerful, but actions are either driven by reasoned thought, or actions are driving by something other than reasoned thought, which do you prefer? A person may be influenced by words to a point at which a person acts without independent, individual, reason. That is the essence of the info-war. Some people use words to cause people to act in certain ways that just happen to be destructive to may people while the actions done just so happen to be beneficial to the few who use words to cause people to act in certain ways. The words are not powerful, they are just harmless words, while the actions inspired by the words are powerful to a measurable tune - such as:
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
I link things, even if you don't appreciate the links, because that is what I do, those are my actions. You act the way you act, competitively, and I act the way I act, competitively, because our actions are not driven by external forces, commanding us to obey, and follow the one monopoly act permissible.
If suddenly, everyone woke up tomorrow, knowing the right thing to do, and then the right thing was done, by everyone, the event could be remarkable, and my question is to ask how did they come to know the right thing that night? A little bird told them to stop listening to the liars, and so they did?
I don't know.
What would you suggest that all The People do, next morning, as all The People, undergo this fit of conscience tonight, what is on the laundry list of things to do tomorrow, according to you, a man of action?
I can answer that question in great detail, in fact I already have, so I can just cut and paste, or I can rewrite if you don't like links - much.
Imagine how far the patriarchs would have gotten with a bunch of debate and no call for action...
I don't know who are the patriarchs, so I can imagine just about anything.
...and again, imagine a different outcome if a majority of the colonies' population had said to Britain, "We're done with you." It is quite possible that such a number of resounding "Nos" would have been sufficient to encourage King George to pay serious heed and perhaps even avoid such a potentially exhausting conflict (remember that a minority of the population supported the American Revolution, and still we won)...
If you are speaking about the American Revolution than I have a few contentions as to the official version of events, in particular, the cause of the war was a power struggle between those who wanted to run their own money monopoly and those who wanted to run the British based money monopoly power, and then there were those who just wanted to make an honest living. Therefore there were at least two major categories of people involved in the power struggle that became known as The Revolution, which wasn't over after the British troops were kicked out, The Revolution was finally defeated with the singing of The Constitution; paving the way for the new money monopoly power to gain the power they now have - The Dollar Hegemony. I'm not in the "we" group who won; as in "we still won", since I know that the legal criminals won, when they perpetrated the fraud known as The Constitution.
Category A:
Legal criminals
Category B:
Honest productive people
Category A won
You have your viewpoint. I have mine. I've done my homework. Perhaps my homework is in need of greater accuracy; but how will I ever know, when no one challenges what I report?
In conclusion - please take no offense - perhaps you are "barking up the wrong tree"...it seems that you and I are on two separate sides of the room. While you might be satisfied to continue in philosophy and evangelism, without a resolution for action...I prefer to combine all three facets, proceed with as much useful knowledge and common sense as possible, and resolve for action in whatever way seems most likely to achieve freedom for my family, myself and my fellows...
What ever caused you to think that I am satisfied to continue in philosophy and evangelism, at all? I am not the person your words appear to be constructing, and if something I wrote will cause someone to think such things, then I need to stop writing those words, which words I don't know, since your version of me is unrecognizable to me. What did I write, how did you come up with that view of me, and is there any way to avoid such a huge error in the future?
What is the plan? I have a simple one. Use power available to make more power, and then use some of the excess power earned in defense against having power stolen, whereby the stolen power is then used by the thieves to make me weaker - to put is simply.
Implementing the plan isn't simple.
Inaction has never once in history resulted in victory for liberty...rather, it has only served to perpetuate enslavement...
Who is inactive? Who is being painted up as someone who is inactive? I've been struggling with health problems for going on 10 years now, having worked in labor jobs for 25 years before that, I just managed to get a Real Estate license, here in California, to help pay off the bills - while more of my families power continues to be stolen from us through the money monopoly with it's involuntary tax sister of fraud. While I can still write, I write, and while I can still walk I walk.
Why do people resort to collective punishment? You think someone might be guilty of something, inaction, therefore everyone is guilty - except you?
Really?
Prove me wrong...in fact, not in philosophy.
When things get worse each person will face a decision, if such a decision has not already been made, whereby actions will either save the actor, at the expense of someone else, or actions will risk the life of the actor, in defense of someone else, or in defense of the actor alone - the act will slow down the aggressor.
Being prepared for that moment requires willful thoughts, so as to make the right choice, and then do the right thing.
What was the point of posting this topic?