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Please consider reading the article above, and then consider reading my response following:
Do you understand the problem?
Will you understand the problem better if the problem is presented in a simple and reasonable manner?
1. Living organisms must produce more power than the power the living organism consume.
2. The Sun powers all life on Earth, without which, no Sun, no life on Earth.
3. The power from the Sun exceeds all possible power requirements by all living organisms, including mankind, on Earth by a very, very, very wide margin, so long as the Sun continues to burn.
4. Human beings can now convert sunlight into electric power cheaply.
5. The cost of 1 watt of electric power, on average, from Solar Power Products is less to the average consumer, by about 10%, than the price, on average, charged by the average Electric Company.
If anyone, anywhere, has any evidence contrary to the above listed facts, then please consider posting the correction, and the source of the information that proves the correction - otherwise I will proceed, after offering a few observations supporting the above facts, and I will proceed to explain the problem in a common sense manner based upon those 5 facts listed above.
1. Oxygen power is one of the sources of power required by human beings as human beings struggle to survive, cut off that supply and human beings no longer survive. Food power is another, and food power requires more expense, more work, more investment of time and energy, and more cost for human beings compared to oxygen power, so food power helps support the first fact on my list of facts that help the reader understand the problem. I can also use math:
Power produced > Power consumed = Life
Power produced < Power consumed = Death
That is a fact, and important one, and one that helps the reader understand the problem.
2. The Sun is already the source of power that is consumed in the work of creating oxygen on Earth, take away the Sun power, plants die, where do you think oxygen comes from on earth? Take away the oxygen supply, where do you think human beings are going to get the needed supply of oxygen, or the needed supply of plant food, or the needed supply of oxygen consuming animal foods. No Sun and human beings will spend a whole lot of effort replacing that power source, for a short time, all life on Earth ends quickly.
3. If every extra source of power that human beings have at their command was spent today and every day from this day forward only toward the work of increasing the power human beings store, for later use, just in case the sun goes out, the amount of power stored can never equal a small portion of the power already raining down on Earth from the Sun, but, and this is important: the power human beings could store, if that is what human beings decide to do, would be a very, very, very, large amount of power. The Sun power could move all the water in the oceans up to the highest mountains on Earth, Damned up, and then allowed to flow back, by gravity, through electric generators. That is an absurd example used to illustrate the actual power supply that exists, what could be done with the actually power supply that exists, if the idea is to use the available power supply in such a way as to store as much power as possible in the event that no more power would be available - from the Sun.
People may have a very hard time understanding this fact, but people will have an even harder time refuting it, unless the introduction of deliberate falsehood is chosen as a means of "refuting" the facts.
4. One of the cheapest forms of converting solar energy into electric power is by way of using mirrors to reflect sunlight onto a liquid and then storing the hot liquid, and then using the hot liquid to boil water, and then using the pressure of steam to run electric turbines. It is expensive to move the electricity from that cheap power station to the many people who use power from that station. Solar Panels make power at the point of consumption, cutting out the middle man, cutting out all the wires needed to move electric power from the Electric Company to the customers.
5. If one human being can now call up a phone number where the person answering the phone guarantees a lower electric bill to the person calling, if they go solar, then it is an established fact that Solar Panel Electric Power is now cheaper than Electric Company Electric Power, in that place, right now. The average cost per watt world wide is not known by me, the facts are the facts, and the facts show up on each bill payed by each consumer who now sends a sum of money to an Electric Company each month, where going solar will, in fact, reduce that cost per month. If it is guaranteed that that bill will be less, by going solar, then the cat is out of the bag, the fact is now known, and knowable. Go solar, the bill is less per month, the facts are what they are, in each place where that fact is a fact, in fact.
Unless someone can refute those facts, the following words are presented as valid additions - unraveling the problem:
Currently the laws made by man against man are such that a person making electric power at home cannot sell electric power when they generate too much electric power at home. Try it, see what happens, and consider reporting back here.
If those laws change and if any person anywhere can begin producing more and more power at home, more than the power consumed at home, then what happens to that extra power, if the laws are changed to allow that person to sell power back to the Electric Company for a profit, what happens, and what happens next?
Things become more complicated at this point, involving such things as the legal title, and therefore the legal control over, The Grid.
The facts that can be understood, the simple facts, include these:
1. More, and then more, people will produce more power at home, sell the excess, and by that method more people will convert electric power into money (purchasing power) at home - when doing so is no longer against the law.
2. More people producing power, more power will be produced.
3. If more power is produced, power price will reduce.
4. If more power is produced, and the price of power reduces, there will be an increase, by that fact, in the value of each unit of money.
5. Fact 4 above is true because power (such as electric power) reduces the cost of production.
Here is where the reader may have lost the trail, and here is where I can gather that person back up and point that person back on the trail, right on the trail, looking exactly where the solution to the problem becomes very, very, obvious.
The reverse of this power solution is illustrated by an example of the power problem when the reader recalls what happens when the supply of oil power drains out and that source of power becomes scarce.
In reverse order:
1. Less power, in this case less oil power
2. Less oil power from sources in America or anywhere else, less oil power
3. Oil power price goes up (Who is going to argue this fact?)
4. The value of each unit of money plummets as a direct result of less power supplied to the people who use power to produce all the things that money buys
5. Fact 4 above is true because power reduces the cost of production and therefore less power increases the cost of production. Less power = higher power prices = higher costs = higher prices = lower money value per unit.
What happens in reality when our supplies of power are reduced? This is a known fact, the prices on everything go up, and therefore the amount that 1 dollar will buy is less, and therefore the value of each unit of money is less - and the reverse is true.
More power produced, money is worth more, because power reduces the cost of production.
That is a direct result of this:
Power produced > Power consumed = Life
Power produced < Power consumed = Death
The problem in the link is expressed as those people producing that News Item are able to express the problem. Those people do not identify the abuse of law as a means of eliminating competition.
Why not?
If each person were given the legal power to profit from The Grid, by selling power produced at home, and thereby convert Sunlight into Electric Power and then convert Electric Power into money, what would be the problem then?
Please consider these facts, or find errors in these facts, the supposed problem isn't a problem, there is an obvious solution, and it is a peaceful, powerful, economic, political, and environmental solution.
Easy as American Apple Pie.
End falsehood first.
Back to the News Item:
The issue of control mainly refers to controlling the load generated from solar energy assets, especially in situations of high PV (photovoltaic) deployment, a uniquely Californian problem in the U.S. For instance, San Diego Gas & Electric's programs to encourage small businesses and homeowners to adopt solar energy have been so successful that the utility has circuits with more than 40 percent PV penetration. There are certain instances in which so much solar is generated in the circuit that the voltages exceed acceptable ranges, which affects power quality. To address this issue, the utility can either upgrade the circuit system (a costly undertaking) or prevent circuits from over-penetration by: 1) limiting PV penetration on a circuit to 20 percent (PG&E automatically flags solar permits in circuits with more than 20 percent penetration); or 2) curtail or throw away excess energy.
The obvious missing element in that report right above is the thing called storage.
Here is where I can help put the reader back on the right track again, if that is at all possible. Storage can be understood from many angles of view including but not limited to The Electric Grid, a basic electric circuit in a radio, a hydraulic circuit such as the hydraulic circuits in Bull Dozers and Heavy Equipment, Money flowing in an economic circuit, and blood in the human body.
How about money?
If there is a number of dollars on Earth and that number is x and one person begins storing dollars in one bank and as time goes by that one person manages to store half of the total number of dollars on Earth in that one bank, then everyone else must work with the other half.
How about the human body?
If someone gives blood to the blood bank then someone obviously has extra, unless that someone dies from giving blood, and that extra blood is stored at the blood bank, and then when someone needs blood, there is stored blood in a blood storage unit, a blood storage unit that won't die if too much blood is taken out of storage.
How about The Grid?
If The Grid included 2 cars in each garage where each car was an electric car and most of the time one of those cars sat in the garage hooked up to The Grid, then there would be many, many, many little batteries storing a very large total amount of stored electricity.
How about more information on the problem and solution of The Grid?
If someone could sell electricity, by law, to The Grid, from home, something that is now against the law, then someone could invent and then use one of many ways by which their own home power generating system stores electricity at any time when they choose, such as a time when the price they can sell electricity is low, and they prefer to sell electricity when the price is high, so they store it right at that low demand moment, and then they sell it right at the high demand moment when prices go sky high.
Does that sound at all familiar - in reverse?
If there is no demand for storing electricity, someone might ask why, and the answer might turn out to be the abuse of the power of law toward the immoral, and unjustified elimination of competition.
Or not.
When laws are not abused in the work of eliminating competition, creating monopolies, there will be a natural demand for the production of power producing products, used at home, and power storing products, and both in one thing.
Case in point:
There are devices that use electric power to make Hydrogen gas out of water. Electricity is used to separate water into Oxygen and Hydrogen. H two O becomes Hydrogen and Oxygen, not water. Now a person can store electricity in the form of Oxygen and Hydrogen. Hydrogen can then be used to generate electricity, or heat the house, or some other use, when needed.
Data supporting the case in point
A home power producer, someone who decides to compete with the Electric Company, may want one of these types of devices, so as to store, and then sell, or then use excess power they create at home - if laws weren't abused so as to eliminate that competition.
Who would make all those power producing and storing products demanded by all those people who decide to make a living in the power producing business once competition was no longer against the law?
What would happen to the price of an hour of labor once the number of working people dwindled to a trickle, as everyone found ready employment in the power producing and power storing business once the laws were no longer abused and used toward the work of eliminating competition in the power producing and power storing business?