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 Posted: Thu Jan 27th, 2011 10:14 am
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Joe Kelley

 

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Big Question is the State of the States

Anyone (no one),

I started and paused, to comment on, that report above.

Revenue sharing to state and local governments have prevented these kinds of severe cuts thus far, including from my own institution where I'm sitting right now, UMass Amherst, which got a $50 million stimulus check. We need another one

Before anyone anywhere has another bright idea as to what can be done with the huge pile of money (the power to purchase a whole lot of things) it may be a good idea to accurately discriminate one vital thing.

Whose money?

If the pile of money is denominated in dollars, it is The FEDS money. They own it. They control it. Congress doesn't, and The People certainly do not own it.

This accurate discrimination applied toward the measure of purchasing power in question must be done first, before moving on to any fantasy by which the person thinking, seeing, understanding, and knowing what will be done with that power proceeds.

A. What can "we" do with the power to purchase.
B. Who has the power to start and stop the flow of that specific power to purchase.

Carts do not pull horses. If you are at place A and you want the horse to pull you and the cart to place B do you reign in the cart, or do you reign in the horse?

If you have a cart full of Solar Panels, barrels of gasoline, food, and cloths to be delivered to houses where the power grid has failed, and these desperate people will pay you for that delivery, do you feed the cart first? What is feeding the cart going to do for you? Do you then expect to reign in the cart so as to drive the car, pulling the horse, to your intended destination?

The fix to this problem is to not fix it, according to the people who have caused the problem, on schedule, this is classic double speak.

Why are The People speaking double speak? What is in it for The People?

A. There is a problem that needs to be fixed, for The People.
B. The problem is the fix for The FED (legal parasites feeding off of The People by way of a monopoly money fraud, extortion, protection racket)

The dollar is the means by which power flows from The People to The FED (legal criminals) and that must be understood or failure to understand that is as powerless as trying to move your power to market by feeding and then driving the cart pulling the horse.

It won't work.

It can't work.

Dollars have to go.

What will be in place once dollars have no more power?

A. Something that works better for The People
B. Something that works better for legal criminals

When "The President" (A joke in itself, on The People, since the real power flows from The People to The FED, not "The President", and "The President" is an employee of The FED, The Dollar Hegemony, U.S.A. Inc. LLC) says that the recession is over the real possibility exists that more dollars will flow from those who create dollars to those who employ dollars as money.

Where, exactly, will that money go?

If that money goes to China to make Chinese made Electric Cars, and Chinese mad Solar Panels, and Chinese made tennis shoes, and Chinese made things that fill the shelves at Wal-Mart, and Chinese made anti-ship missiles, and Chinese made submarines, and Chinese made military space hardware, then who would profit from that investment?

The People?

How about The People in China, will they profit from slave labor, pollution, and WWIII?

Where, exactly, will that money go?

Revenue sharing to state and local governments have prevented these kinds of severe cuts thus far, including from my own institution where I'm sitting right now, UMass Amherst, which got a $50 million stimulus check. We need another one

Some of it goes to places where double speak is manufactured and propagated, it seems to me.

A. Dollars
B. Past time for The People to recreated their own, better, and less expensive form of money

The State will then beg for power or earn it, not lie, not dictate, certainly not torture, and no more mass murder with the power stolen from The People by way of a monopoly money fraud.

The concept of involuntary taxation, if that is what The People want, I don't, but if that is what The People want, then taxes can be collected by charging interest on the money The People create, and use, for their own purposes.

What do The People want to do with the power collected by involuntary means?

1. Torture
2. Mass Murder
3. Maintain the power to collect involuntary taxation
4. Defend against criminal invasion by any one or any group of criminals

The supposed moral reason for demanding involuntary tax payments from The People and by The People is 4 above - other wise the justification is a local question, such as a local police officer issuing a demand to lower the volume during the party.

When the criminals own the government, a recession is the fix to the problem, not the problem.

The recession is the bottom section of the cycle, and if it is over, as "The President" claims, (how do you tell when a politician is lying?) then the section called boom is beginning, if the claim is true.

Who will boom?

Where is the money sent?

The FED doubled the money supply in 2008. Where is that incomprehensibly vast sum of money?  

Do you need a reality check?

Look HERE

GIANT pallets loaded with cash amounting to more than $4 billion (£2 billion) and weighing a total of 363 tons were sent to Baghdad aboard military planes shortly before the United States gave control back to Iraqis, it has been revealed to Congress.

That money went to finance the enemy. That is not news, that is what the legal criminals do, and they profit from war, that is their M.O.

I did some math on that report.

10,000 pound payload = 5 ton

2,000 lb per ton

363 tons of currency (cash) divided by 5 tons per truck load.

72.6 Truck loads

That is a long convoy of dump trucks driving into town.


When "The President" says that the recession is over he isn't talking about his ability to buy dinner, or a shirt, or a few more degrees on the thermostat. His customers are happy, he is paid a living wage.

What recession?

Why do people believe these lies, over and over and over again? What is the point? What is the pay off for being that incredibly gullible?

Revenue sharing to state and local governments have prevented these kinds of severe cuts thus far, including from my own institution where I'm sitting right now, UMass Amherst, which got a $50 million stimulus check. We need another one

AHHHHHH! A confession of sorts.

I'll restart the report and I will try to find usable data within that data stream (currency is a data stream).

Now, are the Democrats willing to sit there and watch pension fund contracts get broken? I don't really know the answer to that, and I don't think any of us know that.

May I point out that someone paid to not know something will not know something or they will be looking for another job.

If you do not please your customers: your customers will find someone else to reward with pay.

Why does that person think that no one else knows the answer to that question, or any question for that matter: isn't that, perhaps, a closed mind?

The first thing that could be done with any store of value, such as a pension fund, is to convert it to a denomination that isn't produced and maintained by legal criminals. If there is a large pile of dollars, in a pension fund somewhere, why couldn't a State governor, or anyone having the power over the fund, buy something valuable with that money, so as to maintain the value of the pension fund, rather than have the pension fund evaporate?

If the pension fund is denominated in dollars, and if The FED turns loose the new dollars that constitute double the total dollars before 2008, then the value of that pension fund will be cut in half as inflation occurs as a result of what The FED does when The FED manipulates the total number of dollars in circulation, on schedule, as they have done, and as they will continue to do, because they have that power, and as yet there isn't anyone, anywhere, no other group on the planet, who can take that power away from them.

Henry Ford quote please:

It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.

That is possibly a very wise statement particularly because the revolution occurs before tomorrow morning: in the minds of the victims the revolution is empowered.

 
Thanks Henry.

Elon Musk is the new Henry Ford - it seems to me.

Elon Musk is making competitive American made Electric Cars, and I've seen reports concerning his inability to finance that lucrative enterprise.

Where will the dollars created in 2008, to double the dollar supply, go - Mr. President?

"That is a trade secret"

He can't say, really, it is such a secret that such a question would be dodged.

Liars don't answer some questions, some questions can't even be acknowledged, because the mere acknowledgment of the question confesses truth, and weakens the power of lies.

The severity of the state and local budget crisis is just starting to happen because up to now the federal government has funded it through stimulus funds.

Has any reader ever heard of CAFR?

If you have not heard of CAFR then you are now in a position for a moment of enlightenment. You can unlock a door to a room where the sun is bright and all those scary legal criminals have scurried back under their rocks - they no longer have power to terrorize you with reports of doom.

CAFR is Comprehensive Annual Financial Reports.

City, County, State, and National (Federal is an inaccurate term) governments have kept books, accurate books, on net income subtracted by net costs.

The lies told to the tax payers has been that we are broke.

In the city governments the lies have been that we are broke.

In the county governments the lies have been that we are broke.

In the state governments the lies have been that we are broke.

To tell the tax payers that we are rich is to transfer power back to the tax payers. Why would you pay more taxes to someone who is already rich?

Since at least WWII the governments at all levels have been investing surplus wealth toward the job of gaining more surplus wealth. The surplus wealth is then hidden from the public, and The People are told that we are broke.

The People are told that a sum of the total of surplus wealth has been budgeted for the years expenses and the years expenses exceed that budget, we are broke, and they are telling half the truth, a typical scenario.

The other half of the truth is the measure of total surplus wealth, denominated in dollars, in the account after all costs are subtracted from all revenue sources, including profits from investments, and that is a sum called net receipts.

Once The People get wind of those sums, as they have, some of The People now know about this fraud, the legal criminals will take steps to move the surplus wealth, denominated in dollars, from those accounts, and they have.

Their own, the legal criminals own, books have gone from very detail, very accurate accounts, reporting total receipts, before the discovery of, and dissemination of those frauds, to less accurate, less comprehensive annual financial reports, published by they frauds for fellow frauds - not for The People.

You won't believe me. You will have to confirm the facts yourself, despite simple logic, simple common sense. You will still not believe the truth, you will still believe the lies, and I ask why, think about this question even before you unlock this door, even before you go inside this room, think about the question right now: why do you believe in the lie that The People are broke?

A politician driven around in a limousine tells you that we are broke.

You beleive him or her.

You won't believe me when I tell you about CAFR.  
 
You refuse to believe me, and you now that there are many people who will refuse to check out the fact themselves on this specific subject: this CAFR report.

CAFR is one of those things that politicians can't even acknowledge. Show a politician their own copy of a Comprehensive Annual Financial Report and they won't see it, they can't, it does not exist.

Net reciepts.

Where is the money?

How do you follow the money?

Who is trying to drive the cart; while the real cart is being pulled by tax payers, the horse, blindly off a cliff.

Where is the money going?

When you finally must get rid of your gasoline powered car, because it costs way too much to drive it, and you must then buy an electric car, and you have to buy the one built in China, because it is half the price of the one built in America, know then where the money went, when The FED doubled the money supply in 2008.

If, by then, it is too expensive to buy electricity from the State run Power Company (state license to own, or use, The GRID), and you have to buy Solar Panels, and you have to buy the one's made in China, because the ones made in American are twice the price of the one's made in China, then know where that pile of dollars went to; and from The FED back when The FED doubled the number of legal dollars.

I can go on, and I can go on in particular concerning the price of food, onto the subject of Modular Vertical Farming Units - as a missed opportunity to boom the power of The People, by the people, and for the people - but not now.

Now "The President" speaks - lies, half truths, and cover ups, while his friends, or his customers, or his employers, or by whatever filter you view that group of people with that power there at those places on the planet, and those words have power, those words move people and those words stop people because power has managed to flow to those people by some means.

Who has the power of The People?

What would happen if one City dumps the dollar and begins using self made purchasing power at home?

Do you think that such a thing is beyond posibility - and if so why?

The supposed national debt can be as quickly wiped out as it was created, or as Henry Ford's words suggest - before tomorrow morning.