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 Posted: Sun Oct 4th, 2009 12:44 pm
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Joe Kelley

 

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When you refer to "they" I am inclined to ask which ones?
  • A. The voluntary associates
  • B. The involuntary ones
To be more specific it may help to quote your words so as to have a reference point from which to launch my diatribes.

Here are your words:

they didnt trust the Gov
"They" is referred as follows:

the southern states
I am going to address that contribution to this topic further. My first inclination is to point out that people are able to think, not states.

I can offer another person's viewpoint in support of this perception here:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/roberts/roberts269.html

This:

Consider the propagandistic term, "gun violence," popularized by gun control advocates. This is a form of reification by which inanimate objects are imbued with the ability to act and to commit violence. Guns, of course, cannot be violent in themselves. Violence comes from people who use guns and a variety of other weapons, including fists, to commit violence.
I see no "Southern State". I've read people who were employing their time and energy (power) as agents of an idea called "government" or some other such label that intends to refer to the idea.

Example:

http://www.sagehistory.net/constitution/HenryConst.htm

We are in alliance with the Spaniards, the Dutch, the Prussians: Those treaties bound us as thirteen States, confederated together-Yet, here is a proposal to sever that confederacy.
That is Patrick Henry the sage of his day, even the prophet. Patrick Henry was leaning toward voluntary associations (among specific races of course) as he opposed the constitution on grounds that are now well documented as prophetic realities. You may want to read the link, or not.

Which of "They" do you mean, when you offer data in this data stream? I would like to know and I would very much like to discuss this topic with you. To me it is an important subject worthy of careful study, so as to be better armed for defense against future injuries to our innocent families.

That's just me perhaps, what do I know?