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I commend you on gathering all this info, but you should examine the sources you cite a little bit more carefully.
eatenbyagrue,
I do some of my own research, checking eyewitness accounts, find specific books, track down ideas, etc. Is there something specific about the source you quote that inspires skepticism?
There is substantial evidence that alcohol/ethanol is not so great.
I agree. I think that Solar Panels and Electric cars are the best investment compared to any other in view. The idea here is to see how a monopoly power works as the monopoly power expends power toward the elimination of all competition.
Competition is a power that works toward improving quality and lowering costs; therefore the absence of competition allows lower quality and higher cost. Do you understand this significant and vital point?
Have you considered the cost of producing corn-based ethanol, for example, which appears to be the cheapest type of alcohol-based fuel to produce?
One step down from Solar Panels and Electric Cars as the top source of high quality and low cost power is Bio-Fuel made from Algae grown in Modular Vertical Green Houses.
I can provide links, if you are interested.
I have a friend who lives in Brazil and he reports to me how the Gasoline Stations there have both Petroleum Fuel (Oil based Gasoline) and Bio-Fuel (made from sugar) at the pumps, the choice is up to the consumers in Brazil from those two fuels.
Another fuel that is currently available is “Bean-Oil” and I know this because my brother is Vice-President at a Ready-Mix Concrete and Aggregate Company, here in California, where they are running some of the off-road vehicles on bean-oil. The last I heard was that the bean oil became thick when it grew cold in the winter. The supplier of the bean oil is more local, than “The Middle East” as the supplier – which is another vital and significant point concerning these competitive fuels.
You need irrigation for crops, fertilizer, tractors, etc.
One of the supposed problems with electricity is the lack of a method of storing excess electricity during non-peak consumption hours. What do you think about using excess electricity during non-peak hours in the process of desalination of saltwater, pumping water from under ground and storing extra water in larger elevated water storing areas, and then having that power employed instead of wasted, not produced, or otherwise unwisely economized?
Also, ethanol cannot be pipelined like gasoline, because ethanol degrades somehow when that is attempted. The end result of all this is that ethanol takes about as much energy to create as it gives back.
I think you miss the point concerning the link where the guy tells a story about how the oil companies managed to cause the destruction of competition in the transportation fuel market. The idea, I think, was to educate individual people who could then use that knowledge to become more independent of the central powers – by one specific method of producing one specific alternate fuel type (not exactly the most ideal method – perhaps).
And have you considered how much of the USA's surface would need to be devoted to planting corn in order to supply us with all the ethanol we need.
If I had my way I’d issue two new monetary products in the USA and those monetary products would fix the current problem in the USA. I do not have the power to control the USA, not the use of the surface, not the money, and not the employment of the military force. I think Algae in Vertical Farming (modular units) is much more efficient and economical as it uses much less surfaced area, much less water, much less labor, and much less power than any other plant – as far as my understanding goes at this point.
Why do you suppose the government is currently subsidizing it?
Please be specific about the subsidy in view. What exactly is being subsidized, how much, by whom, and who exactly is receiving the subsidy in question? If you can provide that specific data, then I can probably do a better job finding an answer the question.
If it was so great, wouldn't it make money on its own?
Can we work on the idea called credit? I think it is important to understand how credit works. Some investments require a whole lot of front money before the benefits pay off; such as Hover Dam (as one example).
Last edited on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 04:06 pm by Joe Kelley