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Over a year, the turbine can generate about 2,000 kilowatt-hours of electricity, which is a significant percentage of the 6,500 to 10,000 kilowatt-hours per year that US households typically consume (estimates are from the US Energy Information Administration). While the installation cost run at around $10,000, state rebates and tax credits could help lower the upfront cost; for example, a renewable energy tax credit gives consumers $1,000 back for residential systems and $4,000 for commercial buildings. Depending on these incentives and performance levels, Cascade estimates that the upfront cost could be made up in as little as three years.

 

Power-Independence in as little as 3 years. How many years will the turbine last?

 

http://www.swiftwindturbine.com/?intro=skip

 

Specifications
Size
Blade/Ring Diameter: 7 feet
Minimum clearance from roofline: 2 feet


Features
Rated power output: 1.5kW @ 14 m/s
Annual Power Supplied: up to 2000 kWh
Electric power: 240VAC, 60Hz output voltage
Noise: less than 35 decibels for all wind speeds
Design enables use of turbine in urban and suburban settings
Quiet mast mounting technology eliminates unwanted vibration to building/home


Application
Swift Wind Turbine is grid connected, utilizing the electricity generated by the turbine first and supplementing anything required in addition by the electricity supplier.


Safety
The Swift Wind Turbine incorporates safety features which meet IEEE safety standards.


Environment
The Swift Wind Turbine has been designed to be environmentally sustainable. The product produces more energy in its lifetime than is incorporated in the material and processes used to manufacture it - it is therefore "harm neutral."


 

What is the warranty?
Swift has a 5 year manufacturers warranty and is designed for a 20 year life.


 

So...

Initial cost is 10,000

3 Years to pay one off.

20 divided by 3 is 6.6 or at least 6

Therefore the 10,000 dollar unit can produce 60,000 dollars worth of electricity.

Look at Joe's Law now.

Power produced into a state of oversupply reduces the price of power while purchasing power increases because power reduces the cost of production.

What then happens if the investor returns the power back into creating more power?

The investor buys one unit at 10,000 dollars and saves each dollar of electric production.

3 years later the investor had 10,000 dollars of saved electricity (the investor pays the electric bill into a savings account instead of sending that money to the electric company).

The investor then buys a second wind generator and now the investor saves 20,000 dollars in 3 more years (the output of 2 wind generators).

Now the investor buys two more wind generators after 3 more years (total of 6 years from the initial wind generator purchase).

At the begining of the 6th year the investor is now producing with 4 wind generators (the first one generated the price of the second one and then two running generators generated the price of two more generators).

After 9 years the investor banks (saves) 40,000 dollars (and can now afford to supply the entire home electric consumption and supply power for more electric appliances such as a hydrogen generator and a hydrogen fuel cell).

See here:

Over a year, the turbine can generate about 2,000 kilowatt-hours of electricity, which is a significant percentage of the 6,500 to 10,000 kilowatt-hours per year that US households typically consume (estimates are from the US Energy Information Administration).

See here:

http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2008/oxygen-0731.html



Four wind generators at 2,000 each is 8,000 kilowatt-hours.

Now the investor buys 4 more generators for a total of 8 wind generators and the total time from the first purchase is 9 years when 8 wind generators begin producing 16,000 kilowatt-hours.

The first wind generator will last 11 more years while 7 newer wind generators increase the power produced. At the end of 3 more years the producer can bank 80,000 dollars (the total savings from 3 years of electricity produced by 8 wind generators).

Here is where realtiy steps in concerning how much electricty can be used, stored, saved, consumed, employed, or sold. The average home, according to the link just linked, consumes up to 10,000 kilowatt/hours per year and one wind generator, average, produces 2,000 kilowatt/hours per year or one fifth of the average home consuption. Since it is estimated that it will take 3 years to pay off one wind generator it is then assumed that the 3 year consumption of the average home is 5 times that 10,000 dollar price tag. 

If the home only consumes 50,000 dollars in 3 years (3 years worth of the average cost of electricity), then 8 wind generators producing: 6,000  kilowatt/hours is assumed to be more electricity produced than the average electric consumption of the average home.

60,000 can get this:



http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=10&article_id=7201

The Model S will have a base price of about $60,000 (versus the Roadster's $109,000 price tag) when it goes on sale in late 2010. Tesla recently hired Franz von Holzhausen as its chief designer; he was formerly the director of design for Mazda North America. His first project is to put the finishing touches on the Model S.

Now the investor can bank the output of those 8 generators and the investor can bank the savings in gasoline costs (no gasoline costs because the invstor now has an electric car to drive).

15 years go by since the begining of the investment of one wind generator and the investor banks another 60,000 dollars or more as the investor saves the money he or she would have spent on electricity and gasoline in the next three years.

8 electric generators were purchased from the one electric generator purchase. The output of 3 years of 8 electric generators purchases the one electric car.

Time goes by like this:

Year 1: One generator producing 20,000 kilowatt/hours and 3,333 dollars per year

Year 2: 6,666 dollars in the bank from saving the money that would have been sent to the electric company

Year 3: 10,000 dollars of savings is spent on the second wind generator

Year 4: total savings in money is now up to 6,666 after one year with 2 generators producing 3,333 dollars worth of electricity per year.

Year 4.5: Total savings after one and a half years is enough to buy one more electric generator but the investor holds off the purchase until two more generators can be purchased.

Year 6: Total savings after 3 years of two wind generators is now 20,000 dollars worth of money that would have went to the electric complany but was sent to a bank account instead. Now the investor buys 2 more wind generators.

Year 9: Four wind generators have produced 8,000 kilowatt/hours of electricity for 3 years (almost the entire home electric bill for the high end average of 10,000 kilowatt/hours per year home) and since one generator produces 10,000 dollars worth of electricity in 3 years, then, 4 times 10,000 dollars is 40,000 dollars in the bank (instead of in the electric companies bank) is spendable at this time after 9 years of investing in power investments. The investor now spends 40,000 dollars on 4 more wind generators.

Year 12: If the investor also found and spent other moneys on appliances that eliminate natural gas appliances and if the investor used all 80,000 dollars of electric production from the 8 wing generators for 3 more years from the 9 to the 12 year time span, then the investor has 80,000 dollars to spend on that electric car. The investor may also have reduces the electric bill by storing over production (when the wind is blowing fast) into hydrogen (see the MIT "discovery" link) and during times when the wind isn't blowing the hydrogen is used to generate electricty with a hydrogen fuel cell (another investment purchase that isn't accounted for in this scenario precisely).

Year 15: Three more years go by and the investor banks 80,000 dollars worth of new electric production (consuming the electricity and paying the money that would have gone to the electric company into a savings account every month) and three years go by as the investor banks the money that would have gone to the local gas stations as the investor drives by these gas stations for 3 years in his electric car that the investor fuels up at home. If the average cost of gasoline is 100 dollars per month, then this investor saves 100 times 12 times 3 to add to the 80,000 dollars worth of electric BANKING.

12 times 3 times 100 is 3600. If the investor traveled 100 dollars per week instead of 100 dollar per month worth of gasoline, then the investor banks 14,400 dollars in gasoline savings after 3 years.

That is the situation on the first day afte 12 years of re-investing the power from one of these wind generators.

80,000 dollars worth of electricity produced by 8 wind generators in the bank and from 3,600 to 14,400 savings in the bank from electric car miles traveled to save and bank the expense of gasoline.

Home power generation converted to dollars and saved in a bank on day one of the 13th year. 80,000 more dollars, plus the gasoline savings for the next 3 years, and 3 years after that, until year 20 when the first wind generator needs to be replaced.

Think about it.