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 Posted: Thu Jul 13th, 2006 03:33 pm
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Joe Kelley

 

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The Forum above includes many of my posts such as the following:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig3/guillory7.html

http://www.rulesonline.com/

Above are two sources that highlight the need to find agreement rather than perpetuate disagreement.

Roberts “Rules of Engagement” may be preferred over these rules of engagement:

http://www.public-action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum/burial/doc/wtroe.html

One can get lost in the complexity of “Rules of Engagement” hidden behind falsehood.

Here, if one is interested in further evidence supporting the notion that ‘rules’ can aid, rather than, ‘rules’ that segregate: 

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1410203638/103-9427322-7267803?v=glance&n=283155

The title reads: 

Secret Proceedings and Debates of the Constitutional Convention 1787 

Quote: 

“The Genuine information…Relative to the Proceedings of the General Convention held at Philadelphia in 1787 by Luther Martin, …one of the Delegates in that said Convention.” 

“Before I arrived, a number of rules had been adopted to regulate the proceedings of the convention, by one of which, seven States might proceed to business, and consequently four States, the majority of that number, might eventually have agreed up a system, which was to affect the whole Union. By another, the doors were to be shut, and the whole proceedings were to be kept secret; and so far did this rule extend, that we were thereby prevented from corresponding with gentlemen in the different States upon the subjects under our discussion; a circumstance, Sir, which, I confess, I greatly regretted.


"I had no idea, that all the wisdom, integrity, and virtue of this State, or of the others, were centred in the convention. I wished to have corresponded freely and confidentially with eminent political characters in my own and other States; not implicitly to be dictated to by them, but to give their sentiments due weight and consideration. So extremely solicitous were they, that their proceedings should not transpire, that the members were prohibited even from talking copies of resolutions, on which the convention were deliberating, or extracts of any kind from the journals, without formally moving for, and obtaining permission, by a vote of the convention for that purpose.”

If there is something to hide, then, I smell a rat. 

You, anyone, can take my viewpoint and do with it as you please. One can ask for no more; reasonably. 

What that book goes on to describe is alarming and instructive. It unravels the spin, so to speak, of what did happen behind closed doors in those secret meetings. 

History tends to repeat itself. Falsehood remains to be the Devil incarnate. 

Agreement, on the other hand, is our only hope, ever and always, if the ideal is peace and prosperity for US and posterity; for friends of liberty. 

One might wish to pick up a copy of the rules if one is ignorant as to how people can find agreement.